| mkofab |
10:59 PM |
Holiday tomorrow. So time for a second #eltchat today! ;-) |
| sandymillin |
10:59 PM |
@CharlotteLovie Hi Charlotte. Welcoem to! #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
10:59 PM |
hello everyone! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:59 PM |
@Shaunwilden Good evening to my co-moderator! If new to #eltchat please ask us for help |
| CharlotteLovie |
10:59 PM |
Hi All, first time for me #eltchat |
| cybraryman1 |
10:59 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: "How does YOUR language learning experience impact on your teaching?" Please join us NOW 4 pm EST #ELTchat |
| MadridChristina |
10:59 PM |
yeay! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:00 PM |
@Englodysiac Hey! Long time no see! #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:00 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: Hi Charlotte, nice to see U :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:00 PM |
For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat If you haven't experienced one yet, NOW is the time! :-) |
| naomishema |
11:00 PM |
#eltchat Hi all! |
| sandymillin |
11:00 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: Well, I try to put myself in the position of my students by remembering what it was like #eltchat <me 2 |
| Englodysiac |
11:00 PM |
@Marisa_C at your service #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:00 PM |
Well, I try to put myself in the position of my students by remembering wha tit was like #eltchat |
| sedayyildirim |
11:01 PM |
Hi there ! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:01 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat If you haven't experienced one yet, NOW is the time! :-) |
| pacogascon |
11:01 PM |
Gdnite all. I'll be lurking, mainly... and learning for sure #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:01 PM |
Thanks for the warm welcome :) #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:01 PM |
It was haaard but very rewarding. Mainly I remember the two steps forward, one back feeling #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:01 PM |
@naomishema Hi there! #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:02 PM |
#eltchat - Hi to all - me thinks I'm a lurker on this one :-) |
| hartle |
11:02 PM |
RT @MadridChristina:Yes, tht's really important. If U hv never learned another lang. U aren't aware of how much work it is. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:02 PM |
So let's get going? Shall we begin perhaps by describing how you learnt English or another language if you a re an L1 user? #ELTchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:03 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: Both formally at school (French) + uni (Spanish) and immersion style in Mexico and Cameroon #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:03 PM |
some grammar-translation too #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:03 PM |
i dont remember much about english but studied spanish some time ago #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:03 PM |
My first experiences of learning Czech had quite an influence on my teaching - the lessons were soo dull and all accuracy focused #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11:03 PM |
@sandymillin What kind of instruction did you receive Sandy? #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
11:03 PM |
Learned my lesson4sure w/German.Kept telling Ss not2translate from L1&I do it all the time...awful,English-syntax German sentences! #ELTChat |
| pacogascon |
11:03 PM |
When I leant English behaviourism was the trend drilling and more drilling #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:03 PM |
@eannegrenoble Why pray dear Elizabeth? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:03 PM |
Native English speaker, did French/German at school, then both+Spanish at uni, plus year abroad, now Czech in country +bit of Greek #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:04 PM |
@nutrich why? #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:04 PM |
#eltchat I'm an L1 Eng speaker but have always loved langs, studied them & lived them. Loved the exoerience of entering into another world |
| sandymillin |
11:04 PM |
@Marisa_C French/German - secondary school - textbooks + starting w/IWBs (some culture) +conversation+roleplays (bit communicative) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:04 PM |
My language learning background - English and French very Grammar-Translation oriented up to a point #eltchat |
| nutrich |
11:04 PM |
I attended French and German classes at school. I hated both subjects - thoroughly demotivated! #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:04 PM |
I learnt Spanish in Spain, mainly self taught but with some support from flatmates and classes #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:04 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat I never had lessons (apart fm 5 yrs at school) then learnt by immersion .. and I've had A LOT of time :-) |
| sandymillin |
11:05 PM |
@Marisa_C Czech - learnt in country + very communicative approach - love it! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:05 PM |
I have also had some Turkish - negotiable syllabus, strong CLT etc #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:05 PM |
@Marisa_C Spanish - only 4 hours a week 1st year, down to 3 2nd year, down to 2 final year(after year abroad) so mostly self-study #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:05 PM |
My spanish teacher preferred inductive teaching #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:05 PM |
learnt only the English grammar actually:(( HELLO! #ELTChat |
| hartle |
11:06 PM |
I did French at the height of the audiovisual nightmare... No authenticity, and the hated lang. Lab for drills, drills, drills. #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:06 PM |
French at school, grammar translation - hated it. Yet more memorising like most things when I was at school #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden And my teacher is great - one of the best teachers I've ever met for any subject anywhere so v. lucky! #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:06 PM |
@Marisa_C where did u have turkish? #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:06 PM |
@sandymillin lFrench/German - secondary school - textbooks + starting w/IWBs (some culture) +conversation+roleplays LUCKY you!#ELTChat |
| sandymillin |
11:06 PM |
@vickyloras Got told off for speaking too much English in my Czech class a couple of weeks ago! #ELTChat |
| nutrich |
11:06 PM |
@pacogascon #eltchat Teachers, method - classes were a nightmare of rowdy kids! |
| Englodysiac |
11:06 PM |
Student motivation is key. I learnt Russian real quick because I was a sixth grader in love with my beautiful Russian teacher #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:06 PM |
RT @sandymillin: @Marisa_C Czech - learnt in country + very communicative approach - love it! #eltchat oh it wasnt a decade ago :-) |
| vickyloras |
11:07 PM |
@sandymillin Ooops! I was told off once for English pronunciation... : P #ELTCHat |
| Marisa_C |
11:07 PM |
@DenizAtesok We used to write reflections at the end of every lesson and request this or that - I asked her for a SYNTAX lesson!!! #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:07 PM |
Passed French O level , went to France and couldn't speak a word! That's translation method for you #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:07 PM |
@sandymillin My last czech teachers were great, they had done celta like course and it really showed #ELTChat |
| naomishema |
11:07 PM |
#eltchat @nutrich that becomes learning a 2nd lang. not a foreign one! |
| Englodysiac |
11:07 PM |
Learnt Polish in pubs. Totally communicative (dogme if u wil) - now near perfect #eltchat |
| nutrich |
11:07 PM |
@pacogascon Excellent idea! #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:07 PM |
@Marisa_C nope :( #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:07 PM |
#shamelessselfpromotion http://wp.me/p18yiK-2C My epic "translation hypocrite?" post detailing my language learning experiences #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:07 PM |
I finally learnt by inmersion in UK, working in a pub. #eltchat |
| cybraryman1 |
11:07 PM |
@sandymillin What makes your teacher great? #eltchat |
| nutrich |
11:07 PM |
I have found living in the actual country and using a phrasebook to be an excellent start! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:07 PM |
@DenizAtesok At Reading University - my tutor was Yaprak Dalat, do you know her? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:07 PM |
@NoraTouparlaki Twas very recent, in a very forward-thinking school www.ttsonline.net/ #ELTChat |
| vickyloras |
11:08 PM |
RT @nutrich: I have found living in the actual country and using a phrasebook to be an excellent start! #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:08 PM |
Although as a teacher i prefer inductive teaching, as a student i hated it. That was a surprise #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:08 PM |
#eltchat audiovisual taught me how NOT to teach but at same time loved langs. & wanted to teach so taught German to parents. |
| MadridChristina |
11:08 PM |
Bizarely, can understand more French now though, the Spanish helps. Can hardly speak a word :( #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:08 PM |
@nutrich there's when i really learnt... it was sometimes tough tho #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
11:09 PM |
Have learned more German from everyday interaction at shops and supermarket, also my Swiss friend speaks to me only in German #ELTChat |
| hartle |
11:09 PM |
RT @nutrich: I have found living in the actual country and using a phrasebook to be an excellent start! #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:09 PM |
Hard for me to hold on to more than two languages tho'. When I went Cameroon I forgot all my Spanish. #eltchat |
| nutrich |
11:09 PM |
@pacogascon I'm sure it was, steep learning curve, but probably quick learning too. Where were you? #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:09 PM |
The best way to lear is, obviously, marrying a native... #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:09 PM |
@sandymillin that's nice!!In Geece even now we focus only on grammar and rules, no pair work,anything like that :( #ELTChat |
| theteacherjames |
11:09 PM |
I'm learning Portuguese at the moment, & it's a really illuminating experience as a teacher. Not so much as a learner though :( #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
11:09 PM |
@cybraryman1 Great teacher because she responds to what I need -121 classes help. My 5th lang, so know what I want, and she does it!#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:10 PM |
Is this why we became teachers? And how does that shape our teaching? How can we find out? #ELTchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:10 PM |
@CharlotteLovie Same here. French flew out of the window #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:10 PM |
The biggest single lesson I learnt as a learner and 1 I follow as a teacher is that language is based on chunks #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:10 PM |
@Marisa_C reflection is a good idea&if it's turkish you need syntax more than anything :) #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:10 PM |
@Shaunwilden Same with Stanka (my Czech teacher) - CELTA-like course and teaches in same school (w/ same training) as me #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11:10 PM |
So what does this all mean? Do we like explicit instruction because we are language lovers, hence warped! :-D #ELTchat |
| cybraryman1 |
11:10 PM |
@sandymillin Thanks. I admire people who are multilingual #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:11 PM |
@vickyloras that's one way we should be tought, everyday life #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:11 PM |
@Marisa_C Nah I became a teacher by accident but learning langs while working helped shape me a teacher #ELTChat |
| sandymillin |
11:11 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat I'm an L1 Eng speaker but always loved lngs, studied & lived them. Loved experience of entering into another world <me2 |
| pacogascon |
11:11 PM |
@Marisa_C I was very influenced by drilling and it was hard to overcome #eltchat |
| sedayyildirim |
11:11 PM |
I was quite bad at English at the beginning, also while learning German I found it strange . #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:11 PM |
With ESOL teaching in UK it's very different - grammar definitely on the back burner - all about functional use of language. #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:11 PM |
@nutrich According 2 research, motivation is no1 factor for SLA. #ELTChat |
| naomishema |
11:11 PM |
#eltchat I show my SS examples of Hebrew elements that didn't make sense to me as a learner when they complain English doesn't make sense |
| hartle |
11:11 PM |
#eltchat recently did German/spanish bilingual cert. In S. tyrol, which reminded me what it means to be an exam candidate. SCARY! |
| vickyloras |
11:11 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So what does this all mean? Do we like explicit instruction because we are language lovers, hence warped! :-D #ELTchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:12 PM |
@Marisa_C realising what went wrong with us is of great advantage! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:12 PM |
@pacogascon I still love a good drill and think it's a skill that every teacher needs - and few do really well #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
11:12 PM |
@pacogascon As long as he/she doesn't speak your L1 perfectly, like mine! #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:12 PM |
Well, for me it was my being a teacher that helped - learning those key questions like 'what do you call...?' #eltchat |
| sedayyildirim |
11:12 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So what does this all mean? Do we like explicit instruction because we are language lovers, hence warped! :-D #ELTchat |
| nutrich |
11:12 PM |
@Clever_Flower #eltchat Maybe true, but motivation itself is such a complex area! |
| vickyloras |
11:12 PM |
@Marisa_C Teachers can be more understanding towards Ss' specific weaknesses,see why they occur #ELTChat |
| theteacherjames |
11:13 PM |
@pacogascon Yes, in theory we can! In practice is much more difficult. #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
11:13 PM |
@NoraTouparlaki Yeah,it helps a lot and the people are so kind and correct me on the spot #ELTChat I've learned heaps that way! |
| DenizAtesok |
11:13 PM |
Bcz i was used 2 PPP as a student that i found inductive T really challenging it was good 2 experience what my own sts felt #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:13 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden yes but drills can't be the teaching core as they used to be #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:13 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I learn better as a Dip-trained teacher, but I am much more critical of my teachers #ELTchat > me too that's terrible innit |
| nutrich |
11:13 PM |
@pacogascon #eltchat I worked in a boat yard in Italy for a few month, I picked up instructions first too |
| sandymillin |
11:13 PM |
@DenizAtesok What is inductive teaching? #eltchat |
| SueannaN |
11:13 PM |
I learn better as a Dip-trained teacher, but I am much more critical of my teachers #ELTchat |
| sedayyildirim |
11:13 PM |
@DenizAtesok @Marisa_C I also wonder how did you learn Turkish ? #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:13 PM |
@theteacherjames you can always switch L1-L2 and vice versa #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:13 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Marisa_C Teachers can be more understanding towards Ss' specific weaknesses,see why they occur #ELTChat> true |
| Shaunwilden |
11:13 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @pacogascon I still love a good drill and think it's a skill that every teacher needs - and few do really well #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:13 PM |
I did French/German GCSEs, couldn't say much when did exchange #eltchat Then did A-Level & really made a diff - Ts shared love of culture |
| nutrich |
11:14 PM |
I think that having become a language teacher I am more able to learn a language - learner training and self-analysis #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:14 PM |
@sedayyildirim there was no learning but acquisition since it's my L1 :) #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:14 PM |
RT @nutrich: @pacogascon #eltchat I workd in a boat yard in Italy 4 a few mnth, I picked up instructns first too>WORKED is the key wd there |
| naomishema |
11:14 PM |
RT @sandymillin: @Marisa_C I think we might like explicit instruction because we can understand it - we know what all these grammar terms etc mean #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
11:14 PM |
#eltchat Believe have to pay attention to difference if our SS are learning English as a foreign lang or are in an english speaking country |
| sandymillin |
11:14 PM |
@Shaunwilden Always get the two mixed up! #ELTChat |
| sandymillin |
11:14 PM |
@Marisa_C I think we might like explicit instruction because we can understand it - we know what all these grammar terms etc mean #ELTchat |
| hartle |
11:14 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Marisa_C Reflection is really important both for learenrs and teachers #ELTChat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:14 PM |
I've learnt not to dismiss drilling. Still remember a back chained Spanish sentence I learnt at uni like it was yesterday. #eltchat |
| SueannaN |
11:14 PM |
@Marisa_C yes. Hard to switch off though #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:14 PM |
@sandymillin @DenizAtesok the 'opposite' to deductive :-) #ELTChat |
| MadridChristina |
11:14 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @pacogascon I still love a good drill and think it's a skill that every teacher needs - and few do really well #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:15 PM |
@sandymillin I think so too - that's why I followed Applied Linguistics!!!! #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
11:15 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat Stds like anecdotes abt me learning languages, increases a sense of solidarity. The teacher knows wht stds are going through |
| hartle |
11:15 PM |
#eltchat Stds like anecdotes abt me learning languages, increases a sense of solidarity. The teacher knows wht stds are going through |
| sandymillin |
11:15 PM |
@naomishema I tell my SS who complain about English spelling that at least the word stays the same once you learn it, unlike in Cz! #eltchat |
| SueannaN |
11:15 PM |
RT @naomishema: #eltchat Believe have to pay attention to difference if our SS are learning English as a fore… (cont) http://deck.ly/~jiEOW |
| Marisa_C |
11:16 PM |
@ALiCe__M Bon soir ma chere! #eltchat |
| ALiCe__M |
11:16 PM |
@Marisa_C Mine was English and Spanish, Grammar translation oriented too. #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:16 PM |
@naomishema #eltchat Yes, ESOl in UK very different to my EFL days |
| Shaunwilden |
11:16 PM |
@sandymillin I remember them as they wrong way round so to speak #ELTChat |
| SueannaN |
11:16 PM |
@eannegrenoble yes but ive students who only have the motivation when their kids srt skool & who have worked hre 4 many years #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:16 PM |
@vickyloras learnt the language only from books,so boring! try to find ways to put my ss in action, even getting them to cafes! #ELTChat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:16 PM |
@sandymillin u have the sts notice the language rather than giving the rules. The more cognitively challenging the more effective #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:17 PM |
@nutrich intrinsic motivation is found 2b effective. This might explain ur success in the other languages. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:17 PM |
@Englodysiac #eltchat - happened to me too - I observe the teacher! |
| eannegrenoble |
11:17 PM |
@SueAnnan #eltchat Worked or marry - both give essential reasons to communicate ! |
| sandymillin |
11:17 PM |
I try to show SS examples of things that work for me when learning langs & explain why...then tell them 2 mix&match #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:17 PM |
A very imp thing is giving thinking time to sts bcz as a learner u get really stressed out even answering 'how r u' #eltchat |
| nutrich |
11:17 PM |
@eannegrenoble @pacogascon Yep. Task-based, genuine info gaps, TPR #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:17 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: I've learnt not to dismiss drilling. Stds love backchaining, & it's really effective. Integrate old with new #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:17 PM |
RT @Englodysiac: Having become a language teacher, I've become a worse lang learner. I'm too busy "observing" the teacher (pink elephant) #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:17 PM |
Having become a language teacher, I've become a worse lang learner. I'm too busy "observing" the teacher (pink elephant) #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:17 PM |
I try to teach my students how I want to learn #eltchat e.g. I know I do HW night b4 lesson, and not always all of it (used to be better!) |
| hartle |
11:18 PM |
RT @sandymillin: I try to show SS examples of things that work for me when learning langs & explain why...then tell them 2 mix&match #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:18 PM |
RT @sandymillin: Also tell them that it took me about 8-10 years of learning langs b4 I figured out what methods worked 4 me #eltchat & am still adding more |
| DenizAtesok |
11:18 PM |
didnt take notes in my L1 when learning spanish. Used english instead and i think it was a gr8 help #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:18 PM |
Also tell them that it took me about 8-10 years of learning langs b4 I figured out what methods worked 4 me #eltchat & am still adding more |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:18 PM |
RT @sandymillin: I try to show SS examples of things that work for me when learning langs & explain why...then tell them 2 mix&match #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:18 PM |
@nutrich I agree - me too #ELTChat |
| theteacherjames |
11:18 PM |
RT @Englodysiac: Having become a language teacher, I've become a worse lang learner. I'm too busy "observing" the teacher #eltchat |
| web20education |
11:19 PM |
#cloudexperience Free 10 GB Online Storage with CX 4 phots,videos. presentations #edtech20 #elearning #edchat #eltchat http://t.co/Ek34jSw |
| pacogascon |
11:19 PM |
@DenizAtesok did the same tried not to use L1 at all #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:19 PM |
RT @Marisa_C @SueAnnan I learn better as a Dip-trained teacher, but I am much more critical of my teachers #ELTchat > me too! |
| vickyloras |
11:19 PM |
RT @eannegrenoble: @SueAnnan #eltchat Worked or marry - both give essential reasons to communicate ! |
| sedayyildirim |
11:19 PM |
I'm patient while dealing with pronounciation mistakes coz I know how difficult it is ! #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:19 PM |
#eltchat I find it really useful to make comparisons b'tween languages I know but my ss find it hard to compare sometimes |
| MadridChristina |
11:19 PM |
Context and degree of exposure definitely make a difference #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
11:19 PM |
@NoraTouparlaki Excellent idea! #ELTChat |
| clever_flower |
11:20 PM |
@nutrich Intrinsic motivation explains success in languages that u needed. At school motivation was extrinsic. #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:20 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat Stds like anecdotes abt me learning languages, increases a sense of solidarity. The teacher knows wht stds are going through |
| DenizAtesok |
11:20 PM |
@Englodysiac i know that feeling! i often thought 'her instructions could've been more clear' ;) #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:20 PM |
#eltchat time 4 dinner catch up up later |
| nutrich |
11:20 PM |
@Clever_Flower Not sure. My motivation was generally to get by with tasks rather than genuine desire, I've never got past pre-int #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:20 PM |
@nutrich Think learner training is the key - if u show you've put the things u tell ur SS to do into practice, they trust u more #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:20 PM |
I did a summer course in another language last year and I learned more about teaching/how not to teach than the actual language! #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:20 PM |
We can pass on techniques that helped us to our students - learner training #eltchat |
| springrose12 |
11:20 PM |
@Marisa_C I learned my English with a private tutor. The way my school taught English was awful. Nothing but grammar.. #eltchat |
| SueannaN |
11:20 PM |
#ELTchat love the Unknown Lang segment of CertTESOL. Really makes trainees think |
| Marisa_C |
11:20 PM |
How aware are you of your teaching style? #ELTchat And how can you learn more about what type of teacher you are? |
| naomishema |
11:20 PM |
#eltchat - What is a DIP teacher? |
| SueannaN |
11:21 PM |
I adapt my teaching style to the needs of my students #ELTchat |
| VGoodyear |
11:21 PM |
@Marisa_C ask your student's what type of teacher they think you are #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
11:21 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: How aware are you of your teaching style? #ELTchat And how can you learn more about what type of teacher you are? |
| MadridChristina |
11:21 PM |
Especially if your teacher works in the same place as you do. You have ot bite your tongue for diplomacy's sake #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:21 PM |
@naomishema I presume it means someone who as a (Cambridge) Diploma #ELTChat |
| theteacherjames |
11:21 PM |
@Marisa_C It definitely provides a useful point of comparison, whether you have a good teacher or bad. #ELTchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:21 PM |
@Marisa_C you have the teaching style questionnaire? #eltchat |
| nutrich |
11:21 PM |
@sandymillin True. I've found that talking to ss about my own language learning can help a lot. #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:21 PM |
@KarenInGreece the older we ger, the better we understand the best ways of learning,and then...teaching #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:21 PM |
#eltchat Many of my ss don't have knowledge of their own grammar so find it hard to compare English rules with their L1 |
| ALiCe__M |
11:21 PM |
@Marisa_C But you are not a "type" of teacher, you are *you*! #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:21 PM |
SAme here 'I wouldn't do feedback like that' #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:21 PM |
@KarenInGreece but all very useful to you as a teacher - no? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:21 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: We can pass on techniques that helped us to our students - learner training #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:21 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: How aware are you of your teaching style? #ELTchat And how can you learn more about what type of teacher you are? |
| springrose12 |
11:22 PM |
@Marisa_C I don't mind pronunciation and spelling mistakes. I care about the whole concept. Ss need time to internalize grammar #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:22 PM |
e.g. told them today to write example sentences w/ new words & explained why good, then said I'm naughty & don't do as much as shud #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:22 PM |
RT @VGoodyear: @Marisa_C ask your student's what type of teacher they think you are #eltchat > nice idea; ask your learners! |
| DenizAtesok |
11:22 PM |
@MadridChristina i totally agree! #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:22 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C It definitely provides a useful point of comparison, whether you have a good teacher or bad. #ELTchat I agree |
| sandymillin |
11:22 PM |
I give my SS advice, then say that I don't always put it into practice myself, and know that makes it harder #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:22 PM |
@ALiCe__M Everyone is unique "you" or "them" but we do follow certain patterns of interaction which are often very telling #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:22 PM |
RT @clever_flower: @nutrich Intrinsic motivation explains success in languages that u needed. At school motivation was extrinsic. #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:23 PM |
@theteacherjames RT @Englodysiac:I think I've become a better learner, but only when I teach myself. Prob worse when I'm in a class #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:23 PM |
RT @NoraTouparlaki: @KarenInGreece the older we ger, the better we understand the best ways of learning,and then...teaching #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:23 PM |
often reassure my SS and saying e.g. "X is a perfectly normal mistake when you're at this level">they trust me as know I'm linguist #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:23 PM |
@nutrich That's the point! It's like a child's need 2communicate. An L1 learner doesn't have a passion 4 L1 :) but a need 2use it. #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:24 PM |
and encouraging students to go for it, not to worry too much about error - taking risks helped me, I'm sure it does them too #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:24 PM |
RT @Clever_Flower: @nutrich It's like a child's need 2communicate. An L1 learner doesn't have a passion 4 L1 :) but a need 2use it. #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:24 PM |
@nutrich My guess is u didn't need L2 beyond pre-int level #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:24 PM |
Do you tend to tell your SS that you're a linguist? #eltchat When do you do this? |
| Shaunwilden |
11:24 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @VGoodyear: @Marisa_C ask your student's what type of teacher they think you are #eltchat > agree nice idea :-) |
| VGoodyear |
11:24 PM |
@Marisa_C I once got student's to create videos of what they learnt in my lesson's& their opinions of my teaching> I learnt a lot #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:24 PM |
#eltchat I tell my SS about strategies that helped me & we discuss ones they are willing to try. They suggest their own & feel motivated |
| sandymillin |
11:24 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: How aware are you of your teaching style? #ELTchat And how can you learn more about what type of teacher you are? |
| DenizAtesok |
11:24 PM |
i show my spanish vocab cards 2 my sts and tell them how they've helped me #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
11:25 PM |
RT @naomishema: #eltchat I tell my SS about strategies that helped me & we discuss ones they are willing to try. They suggest their own & feel motivated |
| MagicinEdu |
11:25 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: How aware are you of your teaching style? #ELTchat And how can you learn more about what type of teacher you are? |
| theteacherjames |
11:25 PM |
Anyone else as terrible at doing homework as I am? #totalhypocrite #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:25 PM |
vocab cards! great idea - also a little self made phrasebook #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:25 PM |
#eltchat once in a while I ask my Ss to teach me Polish. It reflects my style of teaching.. I can see it and make adjustments to my own. |
| MadridChristina |
11:26 PM |
otherwise, they realise it when I understand what they say but respond in English #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:26 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I think we should go back to how we can spot influences from our past learning & either keep or fix issues #ELTchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:26 PM |
@VGoodyear i often get my sts make notes on post-its about what they've learnt/suggestions. That helps too since it's anonymous #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:26 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I think we should go back to how we can spot influences from our past learning & either keep or fix issues #ELTchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:26 PM |
re: being a llinguist. It sometimes comes out when we look at the origin of words (Greek you see) #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:26 PM |
@hartle Well, extrinsic motivation does have a role too as far as I remember. But not as strong as intrinsic. #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:26 PM |
#eltchat Spanish became "live" 4 me when on a train a child said "mira, un pajaro" and pointed. It was real,exciting, not an exèrcise. |
| naomishema |
11:26 PM |
RT @Englodysiac: #eltchat once in a while I ask my Ss to teach me Polish. GREAT! students LOVE TEACHING ME THINGS! |
| Marisa_C |
11:26 PM |
I think we should go back to how we can spot influences from our past learning & either keep or fix issues #ELTchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:26 PM |
/@Englodysiac #eltchat Yes, we 've done language exchanges in multi-lingual classroom. Great success getting learners to teach |
| sandymillin |
11:26 PM |
RT @VGoodyear: @Marisa_C I once got student's to create videos of what they learnt in my lesson's& their opinions of my teaching> I learnt a lot #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:27 PM |
Learning another language, I appreciate and understand the theory behind language learning much more #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:27 PM |
@Marisa_C a lot of the techniques I teach my SS (esp. for vocab) are ones my lang. Ts taught me, especially at school #ELTchat |
| MagicinEdu |
11:27 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: "How does YOUR language learning experience impact on your teaching?" Please join us for our next #ELTchat in abt 15 minutes! |
| eannegrenoble |
11:27 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I think we should go back to how we can spot influences from our past learning & either keep or fix issues #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
11:27 PM |
RT @SueAnnan I adapt my teaching style to the needs of my students #ELTchat //Excellent,it works wonders : ) |
| sandymillin |
11:28 PM |
I have shared examples of my Czech with the students (e.g. recorded a video poem) - if I can do it, you can too! #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
11:28 PM |
When I was learning Greek with my mom,her repetition helped me a lot and listening to her,even tho I didn't speak much at 1st #ELTChat |
| SueannaN |
11:28 PM |
RT @KarenInGreece: Learning another language, I appreciate & understand the theory behind language learning much more #eltchat it helps |
| sedayyildirim |
11:28 PM |
@springrose12 @Marisa_C my school was better , I think I can not teach grammer like my teachers of English in the past . #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:28 PM |
One very good way to know this about yourself is to record yourself and sit down and analyse your own talk #ELTchat |
| hartle |
11:28 PM |
#eltchat Spanish train experience made me decide language must be real, not an exercise, real communication " not artificial" |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:28 PM |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat Ss can resist constructivism as it was not how they were taught. Same for teachers if it was not how they were taught. |
| theteacherjames |
11:29 PM |
@Marisa_C Re: Recording yourself. A very valuable exercise that more teachers should try. I learned a lot from it. #ELTchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:29 PM |
numbers in spanish was difficult bcoz i couldnt make any connectionsBefore that,i assumed numbers&days in english were easy #eltchat |
| VGoodyear |
11:29 PM |
RT @DenizAtesok i often get my sts make notes on post-its about what they've learnt/suggestions. > GR8 idea #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:29 PM |
Yes, recording is great. One doesn't always get feedback from listeners in informal situations. What's important is the mssge #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:29 PM |
@sandymillin It helps to be a learner of your Ss' language too #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:29 PM |
#eltchat Sometimes SS like it when I "personify" words. In our class, "get" is a troublesome guy cause are so many combinations/meanings |
| KarenInGreece |
11:29 PM |
@naomishema #eltchat I find this very helpful too.They see we are human too and take on ideas more readily than if we just told them 2 do it |
| Shaunwilden |
11:29 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: One very good way to know this about yourself is to record yourself #ELTchat Yes its very revealing and not all in a gd way |
| hartle |
11:30 PM |
#eltchat Celta trainees who only speak Englosh have a hard time relating to learners |
| BethCagnol |
11:30 PM |
30mn late for #eltchat and usin' the phone. Oh well. Will do my best to keep up. |
| yohimar |
11:30 PM |
Gr8 RT @Marisa_C: One very good way to know this about yourself is to record yourself and sit down and analyse your own talk #ELTchat |
| SueannaN |
11:30 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: #eltchat Learning French aurally was v difficult for me - I love to see things written down. Makes me appreciate how some ss feel in class |
| sandymillin |
11:30 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin It helps to be a learner of your Ss' language too #eltchat <notice so much about Czech from learners' mistakes! |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:30 PM |
#eltchat Learning French aurally was v difficult for me - I love to see things written down. Makes me appreciate how some ss feel in class |
| sandymillin |
11:31 PM |
@Marisa_C Lang learning definitely makes you more tolerant! U can oftn (not always) see this w/ colleagues who haven't learnt an L2 #ELTchat |
| hartle |
11:31 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin Of course, you can see ss probs if U speak thr language too.. #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:31 PM |
@theteacherjames #ELTchat Re: recording yes discovered I say Ok every 3 seconds and never finish my sentences. horrible! |
| SueannaN |
11:31 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So, it looks to me that learning another language does make you much more sympathetic and tolerant of your Ss' difficulties #ELTchat |
| BethCagnol |
11:31 PM |
#eltchat sorry to ask. What's the topic? |
| naomishema |
11:31 PM |
#eltchat encouraging SS to explain things to each other - I say used to help me. both sides benefit! |
| DenizAtesok |
11:31 PM |
@VGoodyear they put their post-its on the reflection poster on their way out. They're short&to the point #eltchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:31 PM |
Anyone on #ELTchat want to try sending postcards as part of your lessons? @Schoolswaps The Great Big School Swap! http://bit.ly/kwrDZn |
| VGoodyear |
11:31 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I agree something done in teacher training then never again #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:31 PM |
So, it looks to me that learning another language does make you much more sympathetic and tolerant of your Ss' difficulties #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
11:32 PM |
Listening a lot is good,at first esp.I eavesdrop on other ppl on the train LOL! I know rude,but I check what I understand #ELTChat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:32 PM |
Learning a language is one of the professional development options at my school #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:32 PM |
@bethcagnol How does YOUR language learning experience impact on your teaching?" Please join us for our next #ELTchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:32 PM |
RT @hartle: RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin Of course, you can see ss probs if U speak thr language too.. #eltchat > absolutely |
| KarenInGreece |
11:32 PM |
@Marisa_C Yes, definitely. And if you happen to learn their language it helps to understand their mistakes. #ELTchat |
| SueannaN |
11:32 PM |
@Shaunwilden I'm with you on that one #eltchat |
| VGoodyear |
11:32 PM |
@DenizAtesok my PHD supervisor did a similar thing with comment cards to learn about his teaching #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:32 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: it looks 2 me that learning another language does make you much more sympathetic&tolerant of your Ss' difficulties #ELTchat |
| hartle |
11:32 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So, it looks to me that learning another language does make you much more sympathetic and tolerant of your Ss' difficulties #ELTchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:32 PM |
Being a beginner can also lead to embarrassing situations in class esp when teaching beginners. Some weird/ risquΓ© translations #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
11:32 PM |
@CharlotteLovie It can be scary, can't it? :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:32 PM |
But our topic is how our Lang Learning has shaped US as teachers :-) #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:32 PM |
RT @VGoodyear: @Marisa_C I agree something done in teacher training then never again #eltchat - oh no shld be done outside of TT as well |
| theteacherjames |
11:33 PM |
@Marisa_C Without a doubt. I remember a Port. class listening to a song where I understood nothing. So frustrating. Led to empathy! #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
11:33 PM |
RT @DenizAtesok: Learning a language is one of the professional development options at my school #eltchat <that's a brilliant idea! |
| Shaunwilden |
11:33 PM |
RT @DenizAtesok: Learning a language is one of the professional development options at my school #eltchat I think that's an imp option |
| SueannaN |
11:33 PM |
@vickyloras I did that when I first went to France. GT didn't prepare me for communication #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11:33 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: @hartle #eltchat Yes- non-native speakers on my CELTA course were much more on the ball! |
| Englodysiac |
11:33 PM |
Something that you almost NEVER notice unless you watch yr recording is "echoing" especially when giving instructions. #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:33 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: @theteacherjames #ELTchat Re: recording vry useful, & U probably didn't sound horrible at all:-) |
| sandymillin |
11:33 PM |
@vickyloras Love eavesdropping! Think i love learning languages cos it lets me be nosy in more places! ;) #ELTChat |
| BethCagnol |
11:33 PM |
@NoraTouparlaki Thanks Nora. #ELTCHAT |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:33 PM |
@hartle #eltchat Yes- non-native speakers on my CELTA course were much more on the ball! |
| BethCagnol |
11:33 PM |
@Englodysiac Salut! #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11:33 PM |
@eannegrenoble Well so many NEST's never really learn any other languages - is that good? #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:34 PM |
RT @heikephilp: How many native English teachers actually do speak another language? #eltchat Yes - the question in hand |
| Shaunwilden |
11:34 PM |
@Marisa_C @CharlotteLovie @hartle Agreed almost all non-natives so much more clued into language on a CELTA #ELTChat |
| BethCagnol |
11:34 PM |
My language learning experience makes me more patient. That's for sure. #ELTCHAT |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:34 PM |
@hartle #ELTchat Not horrible but I was shocked at how ungrammatical my natural speech was...but I guess that's natural :) |
| SueannaN |
11:34 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @heikephilp: How many native English teachers actually do speak another language? #eltchat good point |
| KarenInGreece |
11:34 PM |
When I went to language lessons I learned new activities from my teacher and got new insights into teaching #ELTChat |
| naomishema |
11:34 PM |
#eltchat learning a new lang should be considered PD for every teacher - when teaching a long time one forgets how hard it is! |
| eannegrenoble |
11:34 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Proof please - I think that might not be true - I don't know |
| Marisa_C |
11:34 PM |
RT @heikephilp: How many native English teachers actually do speak another language? #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:34 PM |
So tolerance, heightened awareness of techniques applied, generally more patience? #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:34 PM |
How many native English teachers actually do speak another language? #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:34 PM |
@Marisa_C It makes u more empathetic, which is vital! #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:35 PM |
#eltchat My Spanish teacher was frustrated at how much trouble I had getting the articles since I'm a lang teacher but it was still hard! |
| Marisa_C |
11:35 PM |
@eannegrenoble There is a big world outside this great PLN :-) #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:35 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @DenizAtesok: Learning a language is one of the professional development options at my school #eltchat I think that's an imp option |
| sandymillin |
11:35 PM |
Know I use activities from my lang Ts in my own lessons. German teacher inspired #eltpics 'Doors & Windows' album #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:35 PM |
Quite a few where I work are language graduates but not all. Lots struggle with spanish #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:35 PM |
RT @Englodysiac: Something that you almost NEVER notice unless you watch yr recording is "echoing" especially when giving instructions. #eltchat |
| BethCagnol |
11:36 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Interestingly, I recently saw a job ad that insisted that the NSs be in the process of learning another lang. #ELTCHAT |
| DenizAtesok |
11:36 PM |
@sandymillin i also learned gr8 games from my spanish teacher :) #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:36 PM |
Actually among native speakers, teachers of English are the ones who DO speak more than just L1 #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:36 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: My language learning experience makes me more patient. That's for sure. #ELTCHAT |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:36 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Most EFL teachers I think when they work abroad will learn another language |
| eannegrenoble |
11:36 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat ;-) |
| KarenInGreece |
11:36 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C I agree - you learn a lot of empathy as well as patience and increase your wait time #ELTChat |
| naomishema |
11:37 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: Being a language teacher is no guarantee of being a successful language learner. Things don't automatically get easier. #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:37 PM |
RT @SueannaN: @bethcagnol great idea #ELTCHAT |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:37 PM |
@bethcagnol patience! great! It made me to ask for more! #ELTCHAT |
| web20education |
11:37 PM |
#YouSendIt is the most popular and secure online file sharing software #edtech20 #elearning #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt http://t.co/RoQq17T |
| sandymillin |
11:37 PM |
15 minute break to watch fireworks from balcony :) #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:37 PM |
Being a language teacher is no guarantee of being a successful language learner. Things don't automatically get easier. #eltchat |
| SueannaN |
11:37 PM |
@bethcagnol great idea #ELTCHAT |
| KarenInGreece |
11:38 PM |
@NoraTouparlaki the older we ger, the better we understand the best ways of learning,and then...teaching #eltchat > I agree! |
| KarenInGreece |
11:38 PM |
@Marisa_C but all very useful to you as a teacher - no? #eltchat > Yes definitely. Helped me a lot this year in my teaching |
| BethCagnol |
11:38 PM |
@sandymillin Take a picture! #ELTCHAT |
| Shaunwilden |
11:38 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: Being a language teacher is no guarantee of being a successful language learner. Things don't auto get easier. #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:38 PM |
But the worst thing is u become more critical as a language student :)) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:38 PM |
@bethcagnol How interesting! And informed! #ELTCHAT |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:38 PM |
@MadridChristina #eltchat Absolutely. just more aware of what you're bad at! |
| hartle |
11:38 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: @hartle #ELTchat Interesting too... Spoken lang not grammatical.. How cn it be? Not enough time :-) |
| firststudionet |
11:38 PM |
RT @HeikePhilp: How many native English teachers actually do speak another language? #eltchat |
| mickstout |
11:39 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @MadridChristina: Being a language teacher is no guarantee of being a successful language learner. Things don't auto get easier. #eltchat |
| Vimpela |
11:39 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: I think English teachers should speak two languages. One at B2+ level and one at A1 level to remind themselves what it's like. #ELTCHAT |
| theteacherjames |
11:39 PM |
My blog post about my language learning experiences: http://bit.ly/hGZyDD #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:39 PM |
RT @sandymillin: What fireworks? :) #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:39 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: My language learning experience makes me more patient. That's for sure. #ELTCHAT |
| BethCagnol |
11:39 PM |
I think English teachers should speak two languages. One at B2+ level and one at A1 level to remind themselves what it's like. #ELTCHAT |
| Marisa_C |
11:39 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: Learning a language still takes time and effort. #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:39 PM |
@hartle #ELTchat grammar of spoken and written English indeed different...but another discussion as you say. |
| MadridChristina |
11:39 PM |
Learning a language still takes time and effort. #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:39 PM |
i also observed how classroom management can get tricky. if u get angry w/a student, next lesson the issue gets bigger. #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:40 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: My blog post about my language learning experiences: http://bit.ly/hGZyDD #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:40 PM |
Agree it's desirable to continue being a language learner a) to keep learning esp if you like languages b) to be in those shoes #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:40 PM |
@MadridChristina But enjoyable and challenging ... isn't it? :) #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:40 PM |
@bethcagnol #ELTCHAT Yes, but not only languages, being a leaner of anything can keep us in touch with how and why we learn |
| Shaunwilden |
11:40 PM |
@SueAnnan Yes agreed, i got even worse when I became a trainer #ELTChat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:40 PM |
The more languages you know, the easier it gets to learn others... http://bit.ly/kANIVx 17 languages I feel confident to write in #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
11:40 PM |
#eltchat Hasn't anyone experienced that the teacher is self conscious about having you, the lang teacher in her class? |
| mkofab |
11:40 PM |
@MadridChristina Absolutely, whatever "new" methods or trends come our way. It is hard work. #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:40 PM |
@bethcagnol Yup - I fill that requirement ! Neverhave time to learn Spanish :-( #ELTCHAT |
| theteacherjames |
11:40 PM |
@MadridChristina I'm the living proof of that! :-) #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:40 PM |
RT @clever_flower: But the worst thing is u become more critical as a language student :)) #eltchat |
| SueannaN |
11:40 PM |
I sometimes find Teachers as students can be very demanding and have rigid ideas about how to learn #ELTchat |
| SueannaN |
11:41 PM |
The other side of the table is a great place to empathise with your sts #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:41 PM |
I am still very influenced by the way I was taught - but i KNOW this, so I can make sure I plan myself out of the pic/centre stage #ELTchat |
| BethCagnol |
11:41 PM |
It's also important 2 try 2 learn a lang along w/ our busy schedules so we know what it's like 4 our adult, professional sts. #ELTCHAT |
| MadridChristina |
11:41 PM |
@Clever_Flower absolutely! and in the end, very rewarding. for me it was a matter of integration #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:41 PM |
#eltchat ANGER is NEVER the solution. If a hammer is the only tool u have, sooner or later all problems will begin to look like nails |
| hartle |
11:41 PM |
#eltchat Motivation important 4 teachers too. Not all interested in different langs. Some still think everyone shd speak English. |
| theteacherjames |
11:41 PM |
@Clever_Flower Very true, I wonder if I'll ever find a teacher I'm truly happy with. #eltchat |
| web20education |
11:41 PM |
#Annotate.com: Upload, Annotate, Share. Online document review and collaboration #edtech20 #edchat #elemchat #eltchat http://t.co/SnnRxgs |
| feedtheteacher |
11:41 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: I think English teachers should speak two languages. One at B2+ level and one at A1 level to remind themselves what it's like. #ELTCHAT |
| naomishema |
11:41 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: @bethcagnol #ELTCHAT Yes, but not only languages, being a leaner of anything can keep us in touch with how and why we learn |
| DenizAtesok |
11:42 PM |
@Marisa_C even a bad experience can be beneficial #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:42 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: Agree it's desirable (...) a) to keep learning esp if you like languages that's the prob with Eng teachers #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:42 PM |
Given half a chance, I am very happy to go into performance teaching mode.... :-D But I now know how to protect my Ss :-D #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
11:42 PM |
It's also very difficult to give feedback to your teacher because you are one yourself. Looks like you're telling them how to teach #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:42 PM |
I also understand now how easy it is to break the rules - I always insist my sts never translate etc but then I do it myself! #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:42 PM |
RT @SueannaN: The other side of the table is a great place to empathise with your sts #ELTchat |
| BethCagnol |
11:42 PM |
RT @CharlotteLovie: @bethcagnol #ELTCHAT Yes, but not only languages, being a leaner of anything can keep us in touch with how and why we learn |
| ColinTGraham |
11:42 PM |
@naomishema It's not just the language teacher, any teacher feels nervous when they know another teacher is in the class as learner #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
11:42 PM |
RT @ColinTGraham: The more languages you know, the easier it gets to learn others... http://bit.ly/kANIVx agree! #ELTchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:43 PM |
@heikephilp #eltchat Sorry not very good with Euro levels what's A2? |
| esolcourses |
11:43 PM |
RT @heikephilp: Can those participating in #eltchat just give us a figure, how many other languages you speak (A2 level +)? 3 |
| hartle |
11:43 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @ColinTGraham: The more languages you know, the easier it gets to learn others... http://bit.ly/kANIVx agree! #ELTchat |
| SueannaN |
11:43 PM |
RT @ayatawel: Hello dear elt friends , sorry 4 being late, but better than never #eltchat 2 |
| hartle |
11:43 PM |
I was in Russian class at my uni wih stds I teach English too. they thought I shd be really gd and all tried to copy!! #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:43 PM |
so good for reflection on own teaching, making us aware of our possible double standards #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
11:43 PM |
Hello dear elt friends , sorry 4 being late, but better than never #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:43 PM |
Can those participating in #eltchat just give us a figure, how many other languages you speak (A2 level +)? |
| eannegrenoble |
11:43 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: they LIKE learing languages #ELTchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:43 PM |
@SueAnnan I sometimes find Teachers as students can be very demanding and have rigid ideas about how to learn #ELTchat The worst critics! |
| SueannaN |
11:43 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Given half a chance, I am very happy to go into performance teaching mode.... :-D But I now know how to protect my Ss :-D #ELTchat |
| pacogascon |
11:44 PM |
@bethcagnol certainly #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:44 PM |
@CharlotteLovie pre int #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:44 PM |
@heikephilp 4 #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:44 PM |
RT @heikephilp: Can those participating in #eltchat just give us a figure, how many OTHER languages you speak (A2 level +)? >1 |
| SueannaN |
11:44 PM |
@heikephilp I speak French and Spanish and smatterings of other things #ELTchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:44 PM |
@KarenInGreece the same trap for me, learning form our mistakes at least #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:44 PM |
@heikephilp #eltchat Thanks! Then 2. |
| DenizAtesok |
11:44 PM |
@ayatawel hey there! #eltchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:44 PM |
@bethcagnol I never understood English speakers I met in Japan who were proud they didn't have to speak Jpnese after 10+ yrs there #ELTCHAT |
| Marisa_C |
11:44 PM |
@ALiCe__M But how aware are all teachers of how that influences their teaching? #ELTchat |
| ayatawel |
11:44 PM |
@heikephilp Just my native Arabic, English and a bit of French #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:44 PM |
@CharlotteLovie About preinte #ELTChat |
| web20education |
11:44 PM |
#Clip2Net the easiest way of web publishing and screen capture #edtech20 #socialmedia #eltchat #elemchat #ntchat #efl http://t.co/PAnDL5M |
| KarenInGreece |
11:44 PM |
@heikephilp 1 other language at B1 level - providing I passed the exam I recently sat :-) #ELTchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:44 PM |
A2 is lower intermediate #eltchat |
| BethCagnol |
11:44 PM |
Question: You meet a tchr at a ESL conference. S/he only speaks English. Would say something to him/her? #ELTCHAT |
| pacogascon |
11:44 PM |
@heikephilp L1 Spanish, then French and English #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:44 PM |
There r some things i learned from my english teacher: things one must never do! :) #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:45 PM |
#eltchat I'm fluent in 2 languages and also some Sign Language |
| HeikePhilp |
11:45 PM |
RT @Englodysiac: @heikephilp 4 #eltchat - wow englodysiac! |
| MadridChristina |
11:45 PM |
Bilingual Greek, English, C2 Spanish dormant French (low int listening/ reading, A1 speaking) #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
11:45 PM |
Not even the one, Heike. Sorry! #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
11:45 PM |
@DenizAtesok just trying to catch up with u and get the point !! #eltchat |
| bsmsenglish |
11:45 PM |
@heikephilp 3, C2 German, A2-B1 French , A2 Hindi #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:46 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: Question: Depends on what s/he has to say #ELTCHAT |
| ColinTGraham |
11:46 PM |
@theteacherjames I got severely angry w/ US teaching assistant who came 2 me after lesson "Let me tell you where you went wrong..." #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:46 PM |
@KarenInGreece @sueannan Agreed ... I pity my language teachers :D #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:46 PM |
I wonder how many ESL teachers learnt another language from a coursebook? #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:46 PM |
I speak 4 foreign languages #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:46 PM |
RT @KarenInGreece: @SueAnnan I sometimes find Teachers as students can be very demanding and have rigid ideas about how to learn #ELTchat The worst critics! |
| pacogascon |
11:46 PM |
@ayatawel I'm at that point to #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:46 PM |
1 teacher who has had an influence on me was my high school Japanese teacher. Great inspiration, creative. I inspire to be like her #ELTchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:47 PM |
My spanish teacher would correct my every error. How frustrating is that! #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:47 PM |
Sometimes when I get stuck for ideas I think back to those lessons.She taught us great mnemonics which I still remember to this day #ELTchat |
| pacogascon |
11:47 PM |
@ColinTGraham @theteacherjames That's impolite, a matter of good manners #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
11:47 PM |
#eltchat My English Language teacher had the greatest effect on me though he advised me not to take up that job !! He has been my idol !! |
| theteacherjames |
11:47 PM |
@ColinTGraham Oooh, that's bad. Crossed the line there, I think. #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:47 PM |
@heikephilp unfortunately my German doesn't go beyond ordering beer and shouting Torrrrr while having the beer in a pub #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:47 PM |
@eyespeakbrasil I learnt french that way at school #ELTChat |
| mkofab |
11:47 PM |
L1 Dutch, English, some French , even less German. All 3 compulsory in second school #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
11:48 PM |
@pacogascon @ColinTGraham The arrogance of that is breathtaking! #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:48 PM |
@eyespeakbrasil I wonder how many ESL teachers learnt another language from a coursebook? #eltchat I did, boring experience |
| DenizAtesok |
11:48 PM |
@pacogascon at cervantes in estambul #eltchat |
| The_Netherlands |
11:48 PM |
RT @mkofab: L1 Dutch, English, some French , even less German. All 3 compulsory in second school #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:48 PM |
@Englodysiac (mine neither, when I watch football, haha - off topic comment) #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:48 PM |
#eltchat Learning math, which was very hard influenced my lang teaching. Discovered one can learn some things despite not fully understaning |
| pacogascon |
11:48 PM |
@DenizAtesok where did u learn Spanish? #eltchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:48 PM |
@theteacherjames He was not a learner & seemed to assume I was 'just another English speaker who thought they could teach English' #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
11:48 PM |
@heikephilp 1 other lang, Brazilian Portuguese #eltchat |
| cbsiskin |
11:49 PM |
@DenizAtesok There needs to be a happy medium between intrusive corrections and no feedback at all. #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:49 PM |
I speak 4 at B2+ level, French, German, Italian, Spanish, then Russian a2ish and a very little Albanian and Greek on a good day #eltchat |
| monicamalpas77 |
11:49 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal #eltchat it's not necessary but it helps.It motivates Ss to know more about the target language |
| ColinTGraham |
11:49 PM |
@pacogascon @theteacherjames It wasn't just impolite, it was an arrogant presumption. I wasn't in a position where I could respond. #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:49 PM |
@naomishema #eltchat Teaching Maths to ESOL learners was also an eye opener for me. |
| pacogascon |
11:49 PM |
@DenizAtesok wow I'd heard Cervantes was a great place to learn #eltchat |
| cgoodey |
11:49 PM |
@heikephilp 2 - French & Dutch #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:50 PM |
anyone learnt a lang with a different alphabet/script? That should be an eyeopener for those of us who teach ss in sim. situation. #eltchat |
| Englodysiac |
11:50 PM |
error correction is crucial (what/how) remember when u learn a lang talking to strangers, nobody 'corrects' u - yet u learn well #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:50 PM |
@hartle WOW #ELTchat |
| mkofab |
11:50 PM |
RT @cbsiskin: @DenizAtesok There needs to be a happy medium between intrusive corrections and no feedback at all. #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:50 PM |
@hartle amazing! #eltchat |
| The_Netherlands |
11:50 PM |
RT @cgoodey: @heikephilp 2 - French & Dutch #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
11:50 PM |
@ColinTGraham @pacogascon Maybe that was just as well! #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:50 PM |
@pacogascon it depends on the teacher u get. #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:51 PM |
#eltchat I can't imagine how you can really teach languages if U don't love them. |
| SueannaN |
11:51 PM |
@MadridChristina I spent last hol in Athens trying to decifer the script. Was great fun #eltchat |
| BethCagnol |
11:51 PM |
Bugs me 2C tchs speak only English 2 their sts claiming they don't approve of using the L1 when they don't speak the sts L1. #ELTCHAT. |
| DenizAtesok |
11:51 PM |
One of my spanish teachers would make us read out the text and answer comprehension questions instantly. Can't cLl it reading tho #eltchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:51 PM |
@theteacherjames @pacogascon If the teacher knows you are a teacher, & you are there as learner, just ask if they want feedback... #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
11:51 PM |
RT @Englodysiac: error correction is crucial (what/how) remember when u learn a lang talking to strangers, nobody 'corrects' u - yet u learn well #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:51 PM |
@DenizAtesok guess so. Anyway, getting a teaching position at Cervantes is REALLY hard #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:52 PM |
Literacy issues and how it can help us become better/ more patient teachers #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:52 PM |
@CharlotteLovie yes, japanese #eltchat but interestingly it didnt stick in my brain, needed romanji in the end to learn |
| Englodysiac |
11:52 PM |
@MadridChristina I learnt 2 (both during my pre-teaching jobs) was worth the effort #eltchat |
| annabooklover |
11:52 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: My language learning experience makes me more patient. That's for sure. #ELTCHAT |
| DenizAtesok |
11:52 PM |
Too much error correction is just demotivating & increases self-monitoring, which hinders fluency #eltchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:52 PM |
@CharlotteLovie @naomishema It was teaching Maths to ESOL that led me to teaching English in Japan for 11 years ... ;-) #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:52 PM |
@ColinTGraham @theteacherjames when I'm attending a lecture by other teacher the only feeling i can think of is empathy #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:52 PM |
@HeikePhilp On a good day :-) #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:52 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat I can't imagine how you can really teach languages if U don't love them. OH YES, BUT I DON'T LEARN THEM EASILY! |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:52 PM |
S's respect a teacher who speaks there L1 - that's my experience #ELTchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:52 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: anyone learnt a lang with a different alphabet/script? I really think I should #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
11:52 PM |
@sandymillin @hartle #eltchat RT: L1 Eng spkr but always loved lngs, studied & lived them. Loved exp of entering into another world <meN+1 |
| pacogascon |
11:53 PM |
@esolcourses @MadridChristina Started Arabic #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:53 PM |
@SueAnnan I should try and find time - teaching Greek is a challenge to me and I love doing it #ELTchat |
| hartle |
11:53 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: Yes, tho alphabet not so muchnof a prob. You learn it and use it... #eltchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:53 PM |
@pacogascon @theteacherjames A lot of it was related to perceptions of ELT teachers as professionals vs University 'oiks' with MAs. #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:53 PM |
@bethcagnol what can you assue about this teacher's learning background? #ELTCHAT |
| DenizAtesok |
11:53 PM |
@pacogascon that's intesting bcoz they dont have many full time teachers there. R u in istanbul? #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:53 PM |
@DenizAtesok Absolutely! #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:53 PM |
I also learned how much I dislike teachers getting sts to read aloud long texts.I always disliked this but after lessons I knew why #ELTchat |
| clever_flower |
11:53 PM |
Call 4 papers: EgypTESOL Dec 2 & 3, 2011. www.egyptesol.org Visit Tahrir Square & meet #Egypt ian Revolutionists :) #eltchat @russell1955 |
| esolcourses |
11:53 PM |
RT @MadridChristina: anyone learnt a lang with a different alphabet/script? That should be an eyeopener f #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:53 PM |
@bethcagnol #ELTCHAT totally agree |
| Marisa_C |
11:53 PM |
Has anyone ever tried to use specific observation checklists in reviewing their lessons (or listening to/watching themselves?) #ELTchat |
| pacogascon |
11:53 PM |
RT @DenizAtesok: Too much error correction is just demotivating & increases self-monitoring, which hinders fluency #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
11:53 PM |
RT @DenizAtesok: Too much error correction is just demotivating & increases self-monitoring, which hinders fluency #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:54 PM |
@DenizAtesok No, but I know people working @ Cervantes in Dublin #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:54 PM |
If you weren't all teachers who would be evaluating every move I make I would do a Greek class in a flash :-) #ELTchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:54 PM |
@Marisa_C Can I be your student! #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
11:54 PM |
@MadridChristina tried learning arabic script & Cantonese but found both v.difficult & wasn't motivated enough to stick with it #ELTChat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:54 PM |
@Marisa_C i recorded my lessons. A lot of surprises :) #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:54 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C count me in for sure #ELTchat - me too pls! |
| ayatawel |
11:54 PM |
@pacogascon Great !! Then i can offer help in Arabic here #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:54 PM |
So with a few minutes left what conclusions can we draw about our language learning exp and teaching? #ELTChat |
| SueannaN |
11:54 PM |
@Marisa_C count me in for sure #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
11:54 PM |
Back for the last 5 minutes! No pic I'm afraid as too far away 4 my camera. Part of 2 wk annual fireworks festival :) #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:54 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: Bugs me 2C tchs speak only English 2 their sts claiming they don't approve of using the L1 when they don't speak the sts L1. #ELTCHAT. |
| vickyloras |
11:54 PM |
I saw the failwhale on my PC but tweeting from the phone : ) #ELTChat |
| chiasuan |
11:54 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: Bugs me 2C tchs speak only English 2 their sts claiming they don't approve of using the L1 when they don't speak the sts L1. #ELTCHAT. |
| KarenInGreece |
11:54 PM |
@CharlotteLovie @MadridChristina Yes - Japanese in high school and now Greek. Great languages! #ELTchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:54 PM |
@pacogascon @theteacherjames He was definitely a *huge* oik! #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:54 PM |
@CharlotteLovie same here - Arabic perhaps #eltchat |
| hartle |
11:55 PM |
RT @BobK99: #eltchat RT: L1 Eng spkr but always loved lngs, studied & lived them. Loved exp of entering into another world. Me too |
| MadridChristina |
11:55 PM |
@hartle thanks - have never been in that position #eltchat will have to try |
| Vimpela |
11:55 PM |
@pacogascon really? usually my worse students are teachers themselves. #eltchat |
| ColinTGraham |
11:55 PM |
@bethcagnol I used to say to beginning level students to use Japanese with me but I may reply in English... that often worked well #ELTCHAT |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:55 PM |
Our learners who are not literate in their L1 often pick up English writing faster than those who are literate #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:55 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: If you weren't all teachers who would be evaluating every move I make I would do a Greek class in a flash :-) #ELTchat - lol |
| sandymillin |
11:55 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: I recently saw a job ad that insisted that the NSs be in the process of learning another lang. #ELTCHAT<great idea |
| Marisa_C |
11:55 PM |
Although I have zero time for preparation #ELTchat |
| SueannaN |
11:55 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: If you weren't all teachers who would be evaluating every move I make I would do a Greek class in a flash :-) #ELTchat LOL |
| naomishema |
11:55 PM |
#eltchat I teach Hebrew & Arabic speaking learners - its not only the different letters but the different direction! |
| HeikePhilp |
11:56 PM |
Would those language teachers who learnt a foreign language tell us what kept you motivated? #eltchat |
| lolonagi |
11:56 PM |
missed #eltchat and I was waiting it 2day coz I thought I would catch the two :( |
| MadridChristina |
11:56 PM |
@Marisa_C I sometimes do one on the CELTA #eltchat trainees find it v useful esp for classroom management |
| mkofab |
11:56 PM |
@Shaunwilden Be a language learner yourself or never forget the days when you were. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
11:56 PM |
@pacogascon #eltchat for children it could be easier (except Ld ones. for them it is a nightmare!) |
| esolcourses |
11:56 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @heikephilp @SueAnnan #ELTchat I'm fine abt being observed - no probs - but have no time to prepare properly ! |
| Marisa_C |
11:56 PM |
Unless of course you all pay me huge sums of money and make it really worth my while :-D #ELTchat |
| ayatawel |
11:56 PM |
RT @pacogascon: @ayatawel it took me months to learn alphabet (alephat) and to write right to left #eltchat that's great |
| theteacherjames |
11:56 PM |
@MadridChristina A very eye opening experiences #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:56 PM |
@vimpela I've met some and try not to be like them #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:56 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I sometimes find Teachers as students can be very demanding #ELTchat <doctors make the worst patients! |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:56 PM |
@hartle yes, yes, yes #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
11:56 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: My blog post about my language learning experiences: http://bit.ly/hGZyDD #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
11:56 PM |
@MadridChristina Can read Korean characters, but apart from some phrases that was as far as I got. Too tough in the time available. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:56 PM |
@heikephilp @SueAnnan #ELTchat I'm fine abt being observed - no probs - but have no time to prepare properly ! |
| sandymillin |
11:56 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: I think English teachers should speak two languages. One at B2+ level and one at A1 level to remind themselves what it's like. #ELTCHAT |
| pacogascon |
11:56 PM |
@ayatawel it took me months to learn alphabet (alephat) and to write right to left #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:57 PM |
RT @BethCagnol: It's also important 2 try 2 learn a lang along w/ our busy schedules so we know what it's like 4 our adult, professional sts. #ELTCHAT |
| Englodysiac |
11:57 PM |
@Marisa_C ooops sorry didn't realize this was a forum for teachers ;-) #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:57 PM |
we must b aware that learning is difficult&takes time Each learner has a different style&we need to be patient b4 judging'em #eltchat |
| SueannaN |
11:57 PM |
@ColinTGraham MY lot do Russian #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
11:57 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan Yes agreed, i got even worse when I became a trainer #ELTChat <think this is why 121 best 4 us if we cn pay 4 it |
| hartle |
11:57 PM |
RT @DenizAtesok: Time & place 4 everything. Sensitive correction, wihich is approoriate and made into activity & extended v. Useful #eltchat |
| web20education |
11:57 PM |
100 Excellent Online Tools to Feed Your Creativity,Online College Degrees @Scoopit #edtech20 #socialmedia #eltchat #sm http://t.co/gcApb0l |
| ColinTGraham |
11:57 PM |
@Marisa_C Greek was the new language we had to learn when I did my Cert TESOL! Interesting challenge with different writing system #ELTchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:58 PM |
@heikephilp small achievements like actually getting the fruit I wanted, or bigger ones like talking about cloning for 20' #eltchat |
| HeikePhilp |
11:58 PM |
Would you also let us know HOW you learnt a foreign language, with a teacher or without? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:58 PM |
RT @KarenInGreece: I also understand now how easy it is to break the rules - I always insist my sts never translate etc but then I do it myself! #eltchat |
| CharlotteLovie |
11:58 PM |
@heikephilp #eltchat re: motivation Surviving, love, making friends... |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:58 PM |
@heikephilp Immersed in the culture #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:58 PM |
@MadridChristina I teach beginner Turkish to my CELTA's - they love it (but my Turkish is very limited) #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:59 PM |
@heikephilp definetely the passion of the teacher, trying to expose us in real life situations, not the books or w/bs! #eltchat |
| MadridChristina |
11:59 PM |
Another thing I learnt: to set appropriate and achievable goals. Not to expect to run before I had learnt to crawl #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:59 PM |
@heikephilp Without - listening, speaking, reading, context, rythym, tone #ELTchat |
| SueannaN |
11:59 PM |
@ColinTGraham brilliant #ELTchat |
| KarenInGreece |
11:59 PM |
@heikephilp Motivation... knowing that learning the language well would help my social life here! #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:59 PM |
@CharlotteLovie Learnt in Istanbul - writing changed in 1935 - was it a prob? not too big because v few ppl cd write at that time #eltchat |
| DenizAtesok |
11:59 PM |
@HeikePhilp love of learning and sympathizing w/my sts #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
11:59 PM |
RT @clever_flower: Call 4 papers: EgypTESOL Dec 2&3, 2011. www.egyptesol.org Visit #Tahrir Square & meet #Egypt ian Revolutionists :) #eltchat @russell1955 |
| esolcourses |
11:59 PM |
RT @heikephilp: Would you also let us know HOW you learnt a foreign language, with a teacher or without? #eltchat have tried both |
| mkofab |
11:59 PM |
@heikephilp Does sheer love for the language sound silly ?;-) #eltchat |
| clever_flower |
11:59 PM |
Call 4 papers: EgypTESOL Dec 2&3, 2011. www.egyptesol.org Visit #Tahrir Square & meet #Egypt ian Revolutionists :) #eltchat @russell1955 |
| ColinTGraham |
11:59 PM |
@SueAnnan I used to do a 90-minute introduction to BSL with Japanese students, they loved it... no speaking! Lots of communicating #ELTchat |
| SueannaN |
11:59 PM |
@heikephilp I learnt by speaking to people and asking them to correct me #eltchat |
| lingliziya |
12:00 AM |
#eltchat think it's a bit hypocritical if a T teaches English and doesn't make an effort to learn language of host country |
| Fuertesun |
12:00 AM |
RT @sandymillin: @bethcagnol I work w/ lots of Ts who only spk English - find it a dull way to experience the world! #ELTCHAT |
| eyespeakbrasil |
12:00 AM |
@MadridChristina Yes, me too #ELTchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
12:00 AM |
@heikephilp Motivation... knowing that learning the language well would help my social life here! #eltchat-->Agree |
| DenizAtesok |
12:00 AM |
@Marisa_C i thought turkish at CTEFL. God it's hard to teach your native language! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
12:00 AM |
@bethcagnol I work w/ lots of Ts who only spk English - find it a dull way to experience the world! #ELTCHAT |
| CharlotteLovie |
12:00 AM |
@mkofab #eltchat No it sounds wonderful :) |
| Englodysiac |
12:00 AM |
@Marisa_C My CELTA tutor (many moons ago) also taught us Turkish #eltchat |
| KarenInGreece |
12:00 AM |
And for extra motivation I enrolled myself in an exam #eltchat |
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