|
teacher_prix
|
2:01P.M.
|
Morning guys! Ready for #eltchat!!! =)
|
|
rliberni
|
2:01P.M.
|
So, aim, ready fire to put together the perfect person spec for a DOS #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:01P.M.
|
Not "death on starting" then #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:01P.M.
|
yes a lot of opinions ;-) #eltchat
|
|
janetbianchini
|
2:01P.M.
|
Apologies to all #ELTchat - will have to skip this one ;-( torn between lots of things to do. Best DOS is in Oxford, Lake School of English
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:01P.M.
|
I imagine that there are quite a few opinions about this topic :-) #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:01P.M.
|
Just in case anyone is not sure it means Director of studies #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:02P.M.
|
should have been in the elt classroom before!!! #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:02P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: This afternoon's moderators are @Shaunwilden , @rliberni and @barbsaka so if you need any help message one of us. #eltchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:02P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: Just in case anyone is not sure it means Director of studies (DOS) #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:02P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat i think dos's should be interested in training--for themselves as well as their teachers, to keep up with changes in the elt world
|
|
hartle
|
2:02P.M.
|
A DOS must be thick skinned but sensitive, good with email, and excellent communicator , oh, and a teacher #ELTchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:02P.M.
|
This afternoon's moderators are myself , @rliberni and @barbsaka so if you need any help message one of us. #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:02P.M.
|
If you had a chance to create your perfect DOS, what would you include? #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:02P.M.
|
#eltchat i think dos's should be interested in training--for themselves as well as their teachers, to keep up with changes in the elt world
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:03P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: #eltchat A DoS should be open to new ideas rather than imposing a dictatorship
|
|
rliberni
|
2:03P.M.
|
@adhockley I would say so otherwise they won't have enough insight into the core activity #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:03P.M.
|
@adhockley not at the same time, bt they do need to know what teaching means , so yes, #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:03P.M.
|
#eltchat how many chatters are DOSes (past or present)?
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:03P.M.
|
#eltchat if they havent been in the classroom, harder to empathise with teachers?
|
|
IslingtonEMAS
|
2:03P.M.
|
is there a way to suggest topics for #eltchat and if so, how?
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:03P.M.
|
nighttime in Japan where we call DOS's dept chairs, head teachers, and some other things as well ^^ #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:03P.M.
|
#eltchat A DoS should be open to new ideas rather than imposing a dictatorship
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:03P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: Having had two DoS positions I think it's an unenviable job in many ways- stuck between management and teachers. #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:03P.M.
|
I suppose it's half-way btwn a manager and a teacher #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:03P.M.
|
@hartle Do you think it's essential that they are/were a teacher? #eltchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:03P.M.
|
'ethos = good morals, good sense and good will' says Aristotle. #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:04P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: @cerirhiannon I suppose I am - a jack of all trades really! #eltchat > not now but was for 14 years at two diff schools
|
|
hartle
|
2:04P.M.
|
#ELTchat so they need to know abt teaching but have management skills and a lot of free time to cover
|
|
adhockley
|
2:04P.M.
|
#eltchat I've worked with DOS's and other directors who weren't teachers. I think it helps if they were, but perhaps not essential
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:04P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat how many chatters are DOSes (past or present)? I was one, twice ^^ #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:04P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: @adhockley I would say so otherwise they won't have enough insight into the core activity #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:04P.M.
|
@IslingtonEMAS http://bit.ly/kwDhqp all about #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:04P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon I suppose I am - a jack of all trades really! #eltchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:04P.M.
|
I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:04P.M.
|
Hello everyone. Looking forward to another lively discussion #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:04P.M.
|
@LizziePinard Agree DoS needs to have been a teacher #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:04P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat if they havent been in the classroom, harder to empathise with teachers? > are any DOSes non teachers?
|
|
AnitaJankovic
|
2:04P.M.
|
RT @DaveDodgson: By @nutrich The Internet is for Secret Learners http://bit.ly/kHqvXt #ELTchat
|
|
TutorMe_Online
|
2:04P.M.
|
Going to Harvard from your own Bedroom: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12766562 #education #edchat #eltchat
|
|
fionamau
|
2:05P.M.
|
RT @argyre: What the Brits say, what they mean, and what non-Brits hear yfrog Photo : Shared by http://yfrog.com/gy5gxvxj #elt #esl #ELTchat #tefl
|
|
rliberni
|
2:05P.M.
|
@adhockley I don't think directors necessarily need to be as they're involved w/the business but a DOS has curric responsibilities #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:05P.M.
|
@adhockley I think it depends on the actual role - are they academic manager or admin manger but generally yes I think the shld #eltchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:05P.M.
|
and essential that DOS keeps teaching #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:05P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @adhockley: @hartle Do you think it's essential that they are/were a teacher? #eltchat <at least for a bit
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:05P.M.
|
Have also been twice - interesting experiences #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:05P.M.
|
#eltchat i agree with the DoS in the middle of the teacher/manager sandwich. I've been DoSing for six years
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:05P.M.
|
@adhockley interesting, no-teaching directors yes ., DOSes no #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:05P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon agreed #ELTchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:05P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: I suppose it's half-way btwn a manager and a teacher #eltchat >>> with a bit of a student in there too :) (hi berni)
|
|
theteacherjames
|
2:05P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat how many chatters are DOSes (past or present)?
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:05P.M.
|
also need to treat teachers as humans not just money making commodities... #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:05P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: @hartle Do you think it's essential that they are/were a teacher? #eltchat <at least for a bit
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:05P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat how many chatters are DOSes #eltchat I was for a couple of years
|
|
hartle
|
2:06P.M.
|
When I was a DOS had to do teacher assessments and cover for teachers so I needed to be able to teach #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:06P.M.
|
That's a good point--some DoS are toward the head teacher side, and others are more toward the business side. Different skills? #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:06P.M.
|
RT @yearinthelifeof: Why great teachers don't always make great DoSs (sth to read later) http://is.gd/TFxwab #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:06P.M.
|
@brad5patterson Hi Brad, yes I think a DOS is a main cog #eltchat or should be!
|
|
yearinthelifeof
|
2:06P.M.
|
Why great teachers don't always make great DoSs (sth to read later) http://is.gd/TFxwab #ELTchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:06P.M.
|
@teacher_prix hmm... never heard of tweetgrid. so you'd recommend? #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:06P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: I think it's essential that DoSes are motivators! #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:06P.M.
|
I think it's essential that DoSes are motivators! #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:06P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: @timjulian60 Agree DoS should keep teaching and welcome obs by teachers #eltchat
|
|
harrisonmike
|
2:06P.M.
|
RT @CeciELT RT @sandymillin: How to join in with #eltpics http://wp.me/p18yiK-8y (my new blog post) #eltchat #elt #efl #esl #esol #tefl #fb
|
|
IslingtonEMAS
|
2:06P.M.
|
Thanks everybody for #eltchat responses- as Arnie says- I'll be back!
|
|
hartle
|
2:06P.M.
|
@adhockley depends on the job description #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:06P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: #eltchat DoS in the middle of the teacher/manager sandwich. > agree DOS is classic middle management! with all the probs
|
|
rliberni
|
2:06P.M.
|
RT @timjulian60: and essential that DOS keeps teaching #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:06P.M.
|
RT @shellterrell: The Internet is for Secret Learners http://bit.ly/kHqvXt by @nutrich #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:07P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @brad5patterson yes, recommend it. It's what I use - multiple windows is handy #eltchat Yes! Great description
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:07P.M.
|
dos should encourage teachers to upgrade their skills, start up workshops etc #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:07P.M.
|
#eltchat Would you count running workshops and seminars as part of the teaching experience though? Similar skills?
|
|
CeciELT
|
2:07P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: just commented on @brad5patterson 's "Dogme Flies" post inviting ya'll to collaborate on a project http://tinyurl.com/5vrwddy #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:07P.M.
|
@pjgallantry that's what I said but much more poetic :-) #ELTchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:07P.M.
|
@barbsaka IMO DoSes have to cover so many different skill sets #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:07P.M.
|
@brad5patterson yes, recommend it. It's what I use - multiple windows is handy #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:07P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @timjulian60: and essential that DOS keeps teaching #eltchat <can b hard time-wise, but one class a week is good I think
|
|
rliberni
|
2:07P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: I was a DoS until I discovered business. More teacher than commercial manager #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:07P.M.
|
good DOS:ears of a bat,eagle eyes, heart of gold, nerves of steel,hide of a rhinoceros and drinking capacity of a concrete elephant #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:07P.M.
|
RT @timjulian60: and essential that DOS keeps teaching #eltchat <can b hard time-wise, but one class a week is good I think
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:07P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: I think its essential that DoSes are motivators! > agree #eltchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:07P.M.
|
I was a DoS until I discovered business. More teacher than commercial manager #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:08P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: dos should encourage teachers to upgrade their skills, start up workshops etc #eltchat <definitely
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:08P.M.
|
Absolutely RE: @sandymillin @adhockley: @hartle Do you think it's essential that they are/were a teacher? #eltchat <at least for a bit
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:08P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: good DOS:ears of a bat,eagle eyes, heart of gold, nerves of steel,hide of a rhinoceros and drinking capacity of a concrete elephant #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:08P.M.
|
#eltchat Jack of all trades - master of none?! LOL
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:08P.M.
|
@mk_elt I don't think the skills are that similar - I think they complement but are not quite the same #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:08P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @timjulian60: and essential that DOS keeps teaching #eltchat <can b hard time-wise, but one class a week is good I think
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:08P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @pjgallantry: good DOS:ears of a bat,eagle eyes, heart of gold, nerves of steel,hide of a rhinoceros #eltchat :)
|
|
hartle
|
2:08P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: good DOS:ears of a bat,eagle eyes, heart of gold, nerves of steel,hide of a rhinoceros and drinking capacity of a concrete elephant #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:08P.M.
|
@mk_elt Think t training is similar but need to be seen to be at chalkface too. #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:08P.M.
|
RT @timjulian60: @sandymillin I teach around 12 hours a week and love the balance and variety. School's small tho #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:08P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: good DOS:ears of a bat,eagle eyes, heart of gold, nerves of steel,hide of a rhinoceros #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:08P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden Fair enough--jack of all trades is DoS #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:09P.M.
|
#eltchat hi all - teaching L1 (int-upper-int) ESOL ss tomorrow; who'd like to suggest a theme for me to use? the more outlandish the better!
|
|
hartle
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: dos should encourage teachers to upgrade their skills, start up workshops etc #eltchat yes really important
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:09P.M.
|
DoS has to assure academic values while adhering to corporate strategy #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:09P.M.
|
A DOS should be chief PD organizer, head motivator, gifted community builder #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - which should include teaching (esp'ly the less popular classes)
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Yes that's true. I think there is a role (of leading professional) that a manager needs to take on as well as "boss"
|
|
theteacherjames
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - which should include teaching (esp'ly the less popular classes)
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:09P.M.
|
#eltchat @shaunwilden I agree with the complementing skills...nothing really substitutes for work at the chalkface
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - which should include teaching (esp'ly the less popular classes)
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:09P.M.
|
How much influence does the size of the school have on the skills a DOS needs? #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:09P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden #eltchat Yes that's true. I think there is a role (of leading professional) that a manager needs to take on as well as "boss"
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @yearinthelifeof: Why great teachers don't always make great DoSs (sth to read later) http://is.gd/TFxwab #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:09P.M.
|
#eltchat DOS shd lead by example - which should include teaching (esp'ly the less popular classes)
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @mk_elt Maybe "good enough" at most :-) #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:09P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @LizziePinard: dos should encourage teachers to upgrade their skills, start up workshops etc #eltchat <definitely
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:09P.M.
|
@mk_elt Maybe "good enough" at most :-) #eltchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:09P.M.
|
@IslingtonEMAS Check out http://eltchat.com and http://eltchat.pbworks.com #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: DoS has to assure academic values while adhering to corporate strategy #eltchat that's the problem
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:10P.M.
|
let's face it, managing TEFLers is like trying to herd cats #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: I was a DoS until I discovered business. More teacher than commercial manager #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: It's interesting that we all feel the DoS has to be be able to do so much yet many 'fall' into the position with no training #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - also in terms of development and attitude
|
|
rliberni
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: It's interesting that we all feel the DoS has to be be able to do so much yet many 'fall' into the position with no training #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:10P.M.
|
@rliberni "cog" what a great word that sees the light of the day too little. I agree "jack of all" and good communicator are IMPT #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:10P.M.
|
Do DOS's need experience of every level? #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:10P.M.
|
It's interesting that we all feel the DoS has to be be able to do so much yet many 'fall' into the position with no training #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - which should include teaching (esp'ly the less popular classes) Agree- lead by example
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: How much influence does the size of the school have on the skills a DOS needs? #eltchat > hours multiply x number of ts ;)
|
|
rliberni
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: DoS has to assure academic values while adhering to corporate strategy #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:10P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - which should include teaching (esp'ly the less popular classes) Agree- lead by example
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:11P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: It's interesting that the DoS has to be be able to do so much yet many 'fall' into the position with no training #eltchat
|
|
IslingtonEMAS
|
2:11P.M.
|
Do all our followers know about #eltchat? Weds at 12 noon and 9pm BST.
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:11P.M.
|
I thing they should have done a number of key reading in the teaching area - not just classroom experience... #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:11P.M.
|
#eltchat DOSs usually very busy. Not convinced they need to teach to be a good model professional. Useful, but not essential
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:11P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: Do DOS's need experience of every level? #eltchat At least beginners & advanced & sthg in the middle as difft challenges
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:11P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: lets face it, managing TEFLers is like trying to herd cats > lol #eltchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:11P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden maybe the lack of training suggests its a leadership role more than anything #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:11P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Seems as though DoS also serves as a bridge or buffer between teachers, admin, parents #eltchat > nice image!
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:11P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon #eltchat i used to work for a massive outfit with over 250 Ts, much more a management role than developmental
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:11P.M.
|
#eltchat dos should have enough knowledge of pedagogy not to just rely on a set of courseboooks to do it all
|
|
rliberni
|
2:11P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Seems as though DoS also serves as a bridge or buffer between teachers, admin, parents #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:11P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - which should include teaching > often don't have the time to teach :(
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:11P.M.
|
RT @brad5patterson: @rliberni I agree "jack of all" and good communicator are IMPT #eltchat > gd communication def imp!
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:11P.M.
|
Seems as though DoS also serves as a bridge or buffer between teachers, admin, parents #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:12P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: RT @Shaunwilden: DoS has to be be able to do so much yet many 'fall' into the position with no training #eltchat > true!
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:12P.M.
|
@gknightbkk Yes fair point though I wonder how many are really ready to lead (looking back at the ones I've had :-)) #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:12P.M.
|
#eltchat There is training avail - I did the EUK DELTM, sponsored by school :)
|
|
yitzha_sarwono
|
2:12P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: DoS has to assure academic values while adhering to corporate strategy #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:12P.M.
|
@pjgallantry last tweet was awesome... that's it, we've done our work here today ! :) #eltchat
|
|
yearinthelifeof
|
2:12P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden DoSing is not a step up from teaching, it's a step diagonally. #ELTchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:12P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: good DOS:ears of a bat,eagle eyes, heart of gold, nerves of steel,hide of a rhinoceros and drinking capacity of a concrete elephant #eltchat
|
|
yitzha_sarwono
|
2:12P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: dos should encourage teachers to upgrade their skills, start up workshops etc #eltchat <agree ^^
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:12P.M.
|
#eltchat DOSes shd be aware of all the stakeholders and their views/needs
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:12P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: let's face it, managing TEFLers is like trying to herd cats #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:13P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: RT @pjgallantry: lets face it, managing TEFLers is like trying to herd cats > lol #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:13P.M.
|
@hartle Yes though he wasnt actually my DoS :-) #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:13P.M.
|
RT @hartle: Can anyone remember a really inspiring DOS they had? #ELTchat > yes summer school course director at Cardiff uni
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:13P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden and how many just do it for the money... #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:13P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon And be willing to let anyone observe them I think #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:13P.M.
|
@JoshSRound But were you already DOSing before you did the course? Think this is most normal? #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:13P.M.
|
#eltchat @joshsround the EUK DELTM is great, but what is there available for all DoSs outside the UK?
|
|
hartle
|
2:13P.M.
|
Can anyone remember a really inspiring DOS they had? #ELTchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:13P.M.
|
actually, make that 'trying to herd drunk cats'...#eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:13P.M.
|
Is becoming a DoS much of a pay raise where you work? Seems like a big step up responsibility-wise #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:13P.M.
|
RT @yearinthelifeof: @Shaunwilden DoSing is not a step up from teaching, it's a step diagonally. #ELTchat
|
|
katrocada
|
2:14P.M.
|
RT @colorincolorado: The Education Crisis No One Is Talking About: http://ow.ly/4WNy1 (via @TIME) #ell #dll #esl #ellchat #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:14P.M.
|
Sorry, forgot to mention her name - Jean Greenwood at the British Council in Porto #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:14P.M.
|
@@mk_elt IDLTM! (declares vested interest) #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:14P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: @JoshSRound But were you already DOSing before you did the course? #eltchat yes, was a year into the job !!
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:14P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @hartle Absolutely! My first DoS in Japan was Marc Helgesen (English Firsthand author). Amazing teacher educator! #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:14P.M.
|
@hartle yes, she encouraged me to take some risks, moved me to teacher training and pointed out some interesting authors #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:14P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: #ELTchat > yes summer school course director at Cardiff uni, so summer course DOSs maybe need different skills again?
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:14P.M.
|
@hartle #eltchat yes, quite a few but they weren't my DoSs
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:14P.M.
|
@LizziePinard Or because they are pressured into it? #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:14P.M.
|
@LizziePinard For the money....... LOL #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:14P.M.
|
@hartle Absolutely! My first DoS in Japan was Marc Helgesen (English Firsthand author). Amazing teacher educator! #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:14P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: actually, make that 'trying to herd drunk cats'...#eltchat hahahaha!!
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:14P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: @cerirhiannon And be willing to let anyone observe them I think #eltchat > absolutely! shd take lead in this too
|
|
SteveSmith_tefl
|
2:14P.M.
|
I need something TBL based with authentic material for my advanced #EFL class. Any links for me twitter friends? Thanks :-) #elt #ELTChat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:15P.M.
|
@yearinthelifeof Thanks for the reminder! Thought I had it on auto :) #ELTchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:15P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden #eltchat A good DoS will lead by example, allow teachers to observe, inject positive attitudes/behaviour to ELT
|
|
rliberni
|
2:15P.M.
|
RT @yitzha_sarwono: RT @LizziePinard: dos should encourage teachers to upgrade their skills, start up workshops etc #eltchat <agree ^^
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:15P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: My mum says that ppl are "promoted to the level of their incompetence">sometimes tru of teacher>DOS transition? #eltchat ;)
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:15P.M.
|
@hartle #eltchat he had great personal skills - gr8 awareness of all stakeholders, real motivator and open doors policy on observation
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:15P.M.
|
My mum says that ppl are "promoted to the level of their incompetence">sometimes tru of teacher>DOS transition? #eltchat ;)
|
|
yearinthelifeof
|
2:15P.M.
|
@JoshSRound @barbsaka Don't forget to add #ELTchat to your tweet
|
|
hartle
|
2:15P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat so what teachers appreciate is a role model or encouragement
|
|
rliberni
|
2:15P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: RT @barbsaka: @hartle Absolutely! My first DoS in Japan was Marc Helgesen (English Firsthand author). Amazing teacher educator! #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:16P.M.
|
RT @hartle: As a coordinator the DOS needs to be crystal clear when communicating and inspire teachers as well, I think #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:16P.M.
|
Agree! RT @OUPELTGlobal: a DOS shoulodn't be some1 who simply wants to get away from the classroom. I think that's important. #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:16P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: how can/should a DOS handle the different pressures coming down from management and up from staff? #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:16P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: how can/should a DOS handle the different pressures coming down from management and up from staff? #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:16P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: a DOS shoulodn't be some1 who simply wants to get away from the classroom. I think that's important. #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:16P.M.
|
how can/should a DOS handle the different pressures coming down from management and up from staff? #eltchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:16P.M.
|
Good ethos is all about creating trust #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:16P.M.
|
As a coordinator the DOS needs to be crystal clear when communicating and inspire teachers as well, I think #ELTchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:16P.M.
|
#eltchat another qualification aside from EUK DELTM - http://bit.ly/9mrHqq (IDLTM)
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:16P.M.
|
a DOS shoulodn't be some1 who simply wants to get away from the classroom. I think that's important. #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:16P.M.
|
RT @mubeenfk: @Shaunwilden #eltchat A good DoS will lead by example, allow teachers to observe, inject positive attitudes/behaviour to ELT
|
|
theteacherjames
|
2:16P.M.
|
@hartle The word 'inspiring' is a good one. I had a good DoS, but he wasn't inspiring. Too busy for that, it seemed to me. Pity. #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:16P.M.
|
#eltchat they have to juggle a lot of often clashing interests, i think...
|
|
rliberni
|
2:16P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Is becoming a DoS much of a pay raise where you work? Seems like a big step up responsibility-wise #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:17P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: how can/should a DOS handle the different pressures coming down from management and up from staff? #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:17P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: @OUPELTGlobal I agree, a good DoS isnt someone who hates teaching > or teachers! ^^ #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:17P.M.
|
@rliberni gracefully ...? #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:17P.M.
|
@LizziePinard @Shaunwilden #ELTchat I don't think EFL pays much to even start thinking about money... not even at DoS status
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:17P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: how can/should a DOS handle the different pressures coming down from management and up from staff? #eltchat> w diplomacy ;)
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:17P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat they have to juggle a lot of often clashing interests, i think.>> yes, indeed! (business interest vs pedagogical)
|
|
yitzha_sarwono
|
2:17P.M.
|
@LizziePinard Hi there,guess what? I'm tweeting in a bus with 25% battery left! #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:17P.M.
|
A good DoS sets the bar for academic standards and allows/helps teachers to achieve the standard in their own way #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:17P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal I agree, a good DoS isn't someone who hates teaching #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:18P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: @cerirhiannon #eltchat diplomacy, iron fist in velvet glove if necessary! Good listening skills v. important. #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:18P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: @cerirhiannon #eltchat diplomacy, iron fist in velvet glove if necessary! > totally fiesty but w a sense of humour :)
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:18P.M.
|
@yitzha_sarwono: good luck, good to see you :) #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:18P.M.
|
@mubeenfk Yes I agree, money though probably a little more as a DoS is not really the motivation to be one #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:18P.M.
|
Definitely done RT @adhockley: #eltchat Not sure if it's really the done thing to link an article I wrote, but anyway: http://bit.ly/iSqrMc
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:18P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: #eltchat Not sure if it's really the done thing to link an article I wrote, but anyway: http://bit.ly/iSqrMc> why not!:-)
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:18P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon #eltchat diplomacy, iron fist in velvet glove if necessary!
|
|
rliberni
|
2:18P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: #eltchat Not sure if it's really the done thing to link an article I wrote, but anyway: http://bit.ly/iSqrMc
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:18P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: RT @teflerinha: @OUPELTGlobal I agree, a good DoS isnt someone who hates teaching > or teachers! ^^ #eltchat > or schools?
|
|
adhockley
|
2:18P.M.
|
#eltchat Not sure if it's really the done thing to link an article I wrote, but anyway: http://bit.ly/iSqrMc
|
|
hartle
|
2:18P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Hello Marisa, nice to see you #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:18P.M.
|
@barbsaka Agree anyone who wants to get away from the classroom wouldn't make a good DOS #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:18P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Welcome, Marisa! #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:19P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal sorry got distracted lost the thread gracefully? #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:19P.M.
|
RT @mubeenfk: @pjgallantry #eltchat Very interesting question- it's difficult at times but smiling helps! > and not taking things personally
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:19P.M.
|
I got an additional 50,000 yen / mo. + 20 + additional hrs of work (on the clock) by becoming a DOS years back. Not for the money #eltchat
|
|
theteacherjames
|
2:19P.M.
|
@sandymillin Ah, the Peter Principle. Affects so many organisations. #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:19P.M.
|
@pjgallantry #eltchat Very interesting question- it's difficult at times but smiling helps!
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:19P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @mk_elt: @cerirhiannon #eltchat diplomacy, iron fist in velvet gloveGood listening skills v. important. #eltchat > yes
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:19P.M.
|
diplomacy v important #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:19P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: #eltchat : http://bit.ly/iSqrMc Thanks that looks interesting
|
|
rliberni
|
2:19P.M.
|
@adhockley definitely the thing! We like to expand from the chat into reading and further learning! Thanks #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:19P.M.
|
@hartle @barbsaka #ELTchat Great to be here - will try to catch up
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:20P.M.
|
@rliberni the way a DOS handles teh pressure from teachers and management #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:20P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: @LizziePinard: diplomacy v important #eltchat >> don't know. Speaking your mind works with Ts and bosses
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:20P.M.
|
@mk_elt #eltchat AGREED!
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:20P.M.
|
RT @mubeenfk: @pjgallantry #eltchat vry interesting question- it's difficult at times but smiling helps! Not trying 2B perfect- prof hazard?
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:20P.M.
|
@LizziePinard: diplomacy v important #eltchat >> don't know. Speaking your mind works with Ts and bosses
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:20P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: A good DoS sets the bar for academic standards and allows/helps teachers to achieve the standard in their own way #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:20P.M.
|
When I was coordinating at one university I was actually paid less I think than the teachers #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:20P.M.
|
RT @theteacherjames: @sandymillin Ah, the Peter Principle. Affects so many organisations. #eltchat too true!
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:20P.M.
|
RT @mubeenfk: @pjgallantry #eltchat V interesting question- it's difficult at times but smiling helps! > + looking 4 solutions not problems
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:20P.M.
|
@pjgallantry #eltchat on a serious note... being open and keeping everyone in the limelight as to what is going on- an open policy for all
|
|
rliberni
|
2:21P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal ah thnx yes certainly I bet they're stuck between a rock and a hard place often #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:21P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: For me a good DOS's someone who helps others shine & lets others know good work's going on by encouraging collaboration. #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:21P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: @LizziePinard: diplomacy v important #eltchat >> writing the email that expresses yr feeling… (cont) http://deck.ly/~nZQaX
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:21P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon @chucksandy @teflerinha: @OUPELTGlobal good DoS isnt some1 who hates teachng> or teachrs! #eltchat > or schools?>or th bosses!
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:21P.M.
|
For me a good DOS's someone who helps others shine & lets others know good work's going on by encouraging collaboration. #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:21P.M.
|
@barbsaka In my old school we did anonymous feedback on them each year #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:21P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: @LizziePinard: diplomacy v imp #eltchat >> peaking your mind works with Ts & bosses > yes, but better done diplomatically
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:21P.M.
|
@mk_elt Who says I haven't already?! :) #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:21P.M.
|
when I was *DOS* back in Ist, I always used diplomacy. 'Diplomacy' was the name of a large stick with nails in it hidden in my desk #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:21P.M.
|
RT @ZoeVaiou: #eltchat A DoS should help, support & inspire Ts. > Absolutely
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:21P.M.
|
Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:21P.M.
|
RT @theteacherjames Ah, the Peter Principle. . #eltchat Anybody else scared of reaching their own level of imcompetence?!
|
|
acalderon52
|
2:21P.M.
|
β€@Blog4Edu: The Internet is for Secret Learners http://t.co/aYkBJiI by @nutrich #ELTChatβ€ #educapr
|
|
english247
|
2:21P.M.
|
English Idioms: Why are ESOL students in the UK "making a noise" this week? http://t.co/KvUzex3 #ActionForESOL #esol #eltchat #notcuts
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:22P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon depends how much you value your teachers #eltchat
|
|
yitzha_sarwono
|
2:22P.M.
|
@barbsaka @rliberni True! Someone who isn't a people person would absolutely make a difficult 1 to deal with as dos #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:22P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat Goo idea… (cont) http://deck.ly/~Jh8ZP
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:22P.M.
|
Oh, boy! Lost connection... #ELTChat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:22P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat I have tried to encourage 360 degrees appraisal
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:22P.M.
|
RT @timjulian60: DOS shd be some1 who can motivate T's to be their personal best teacher - not pretend to know it all #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:22P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat > I was - we had "reverse" or "mutual" PDI meetings
|
|
rliberni
|
2:22P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat Goo idea- 360 degree feedback #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:22P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat Goo idea- 360 degree feedback #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:22P.M.
|
@mk_elt never know how far you can reach until you fail ... #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat <no
|
|
rliberni
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @chucksandy I really like this "lets others shine" that means DOS can see their strengths too & not only focus on the negative #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat >>never!!!! dos=god...
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: DoS in yr school evaluated by Ts? #eltchat I asked my principal to get all admin staff to evaluate me when I was DoS.
|
|
hartle
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @timjulian60: @Shaunwilden done that twice already doh! #eltchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:23P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden done that twice already doh! #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: For me a good DOS's someone who helps others shine & lets others know good work's going on by encouraging collaboration. #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @timjulian60 DOS shd be some1 who can motivate T's to be their personal best teacher - not pretend to know it all >good answer!#eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @barbsaka In my old school we did anonymous feedback on them each year #ELTchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:23P.M.
|
#eltchat Communication, communication, communication...
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @timjulian60: DOS shd be some1 who can motivate T's to be their personal best teacher - not pretend to know it all #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:23P.M.
|
@chucksandy I really like this "lets others shine" that means DOS can see their strengths too & not only focus on the negative #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:23P.M.
|
@teflerinha yes, part of the job. For me the most difficulty #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:23P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @gknightbkk: @LizziePinard: diplomacy v imp #eltchat >> peaking your mind works with Ts & bosses > yes, but better done diplomatically
|
|
jlbelderrain
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @argyre: What the Brits say, what they mean, and what non-Brits hear yfrog Photo : Shared by http://yfrog.com/gy5gxvxj #elt #esl #ELTchat #tefl
|
|
aClilToClimb
|
2:24P.M.
|
#eltpics http://bit.ly/j3wbPL Picture story. Even with lesson plan! Again! http://bit.ly/jq4b4B #eltchat #edtech #elt #esl #tefl
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: RT @timjulian60 DOS shd be some1 who can motivate T's to be their personal best teacher - not pretend to know it all >good answer!#eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:24P.M.
|
@yearinthelifeof Is there a specific certificate for becoming a DoS? #ELTchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: A DOS should be chief PD organizer, head motivator, gifted community builder #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @yearinthelifeof: How many of you have ever received training to be a DoS? #ELTchat > I haven't
|
|
hartle
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @yearinthelifeof: How many of you have ever received training to be a DoS? #ELTchat never
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: A DOS should be chief PD organizer, head motivator, gifted community builder #eltchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:24P.M.
|
@sandymillin we do - as part of appraisal I appraise them and they appraise me. can be interesting! #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @yearinthelifeof: How many of you have ever received training to be a DoS? #ELTchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @mk_elt never know how far you can reach until you fail ... #eltchat I'm working hard on it :) the reaching i mean!
|
|
yearinthelifeof
|
2:24P.M.
|
How many of you have ever received training to be a DoS? #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: @cerirhiannon depends how much you value your teachers #eltchat > vlaued them v highly - spoke honestly but gently if nec
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:24P.M.
|
@LizziePinard he he DOS=good #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:24P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: RT @ZoeVaiou: #eltchat A DoS should help, support & inspire Ts. > Absolutely
|
|
hartle
|
2:25P.M.
|
I read books on people management and played it by ear #ELTchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:25P.M.
|
@Marisa_C I had training on the job (IH POland) #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:25P.M.
|
OK, perhaps we shld look at what we DON'T want in a DOS - what are the big DON'Ts for a DOS? #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:25P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @teflerinha: RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat DOS shd lead by example - also in terms of development and attitude
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:25P.M.
|
@Marisa_C @yearinthelifeof #eltchat... i never did fully either!
|
|
rliberni
|
2:25P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @yearinthelifeof Some yes as I work for Ih we have a good support network for this kind of thing #ELTchat
|
|
yitzha_sarwono
|
2:25P.M.
|
Gotta save battery! Gosh,sad to leave #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:25P.M.
|
#eltchat Definitely think DoS should get feedback/evaluations from teachers and other staff
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:25P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Erm I run one for IH! #ELTchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:25P.M.
|
@hartle I did the IH Dip in Ed Management - invaluabe #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:25P.M.
|
RT @yearinthelifeof: How many of you have ever received training to be a DoS? #ELTchat > Ed management module on MA
|
|
rliberni
|
2:25P.M.
|
@yearinthelifeof not specifically but I've done lots of management training as well as ELT #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:25P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @yearinthelifeof Is there a specific certificate for becoming a DoS? #ELTchat > No but there's ELT management courses
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:25P.M.
|
@Marisa_C: Thanx. I do think "lets others shine" is essential. Otherwise, DOS's are just cat herders as has been suggested here ^^ #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:25P.M.
|
@yearinthelifeof Some yes as I work for Ih we have a good support network for this kind of thing #ELTchat
|
|
yitzha_sarwono
|
2:25P.M.
|
here?hardly ever! They are evaluated by the owner! RT @barbsaka: Are the DoS in your schools ever evaluated by the teachers? #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:25P.M.
|
RT @yitzha_sarwono: @barbsaka @rliberni True! Someone who isn't a people person would absolutely make a difficult 1 to deal with as dos #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:26P.M.
|
@chucksandy so, what interested you to become a DOS despite the longer hours/poor pay? experience/community ? #eltchat
|
|
analomba
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @CameronRomney: Great post! @barbsaka How do you use context in teaching language? http://bit.ly/l8qP3y #eltchat #actfl #tesol #ellchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @yitzha_sarwono: Gotta save battery! Gosh,sad to leave #eltchat Selamat Sore (atau malam?) #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @stephchbeach71: #eltchat DOS shd encourage teachers to develop. Create an atmosphere of trust/inspiration… (cont) http://deck.ly/~nUwrl
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @stephchbeach71: #eltchat DOS shd encourage teachers to develop. Create an atmosphere of trust/inspiration, not be threatened or on a power trip!
|
|
yearinthelifeof
|
2:26P.M.
|
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made DoS should on no account be allowed to do the job. (not quite) Douglas Adams #ELTchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @stephchbeach71: #eltchat DOS shd encourage teachers to develop. Create an atmosphere of trust/inspiration, not be threatened or on a power trip!
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:26P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden Do you mean "bossy"? possibly ? :-D #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @chucksandy I really like this "lets others shine" that means DOS can see their strengths too & not only focus on the negative #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @yitzha_sarwono: Gotta save battery! Gosh,sad to leave > have a safe trip home ^^ #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:26P.M.
|
@Marisa_C You are boss, I bow before you #ELTchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:26P.M.
|
DoS is part of the community of Ts - one of them - if not, the DoS goes or the Ts go #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Communication, communication, communication...
|
|
rliberni
|
2:26P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: #eltchat Definitely think DoS should get feedback/evaluations from teachers and other staff
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:26P.M.
|
@yitzha_sarwono Sad to see you leave, too :) #eltchat
|
|
stephchbeach71
|
2:26P.M.
|
#eltchat DOS shd encourage teachers to develop. Create an atmosphere of trust/inspiration, not be threatened or on a power trip!
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:26P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden Should I take one - is that why you keep calling me "boss"? #ELTchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:27P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @rliberni Management skills are important for an ELT centre is not a supermarket #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:27P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @brad5patterson for me it was the next step in my own development in ELT #ELTchat > me too - seen as natural next step
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:27P.M.
|
RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy so, what interested you to become a DOS #eltchat Power!!! (joke)
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:27P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @brad5patterson for me it was the next step in my own development in ELT #ELTchat > me too
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:27P.M.
|
@rliberni Management skills are important for an ELT centre is not a supermarket #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:27P.M.
|
@brad5patterson for me it was the next step in my own development in ELT #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:27P.M.
|
RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy so, what interested you to become a DOS despite the longer hours/poor pay? experience/community ? #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:27P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C You are boss, I bow before you #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:27P.M.
|
@yearinthelifeof Douglas Adams works for almost any context, doesn't he? #ELTchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:27P.M.
|
I'm not a DOS, but I'm pretty sure a number of DOS I've worked with had management skills and no teaching knowledge/awareness... #ELTChat
|
|
hartle
|
2:28P.M.
|
Sorry, my "training" not raining... altho raining may be a Freudian slip #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:28P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Is becoming DoS a natural step for teachers, professionally? #eltchat > training, materials dvelopment othe poss avenues
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:28P.M.
|
RT @brad5patterson: what interested you to become a DOS ? #eltchat I love of organisation and bossing people around :)
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:28P.M.
|
@bobstilger says ur community's full of leaders waiting to be asked to step forward. Recognizing & asking's an essential DOS job. #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:28P.M.
|
@teacher_prix #eltchat the DoS that are usually popular still teach!
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:28P.M.
|
RT @stephchbeach71: #eltchat DOS shd encourage teachers to develop. Create an atmosphere of trust/inspiration, not be threatened or on a power trip!
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:28P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Is becoming DoS a natural step for teachers, professionally? #eltchat > Not for all Ts I think
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:28P.M.
|
@brad5patterson Natural need to lead #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:28P.M.
|
@pjgallantry dont wear your business head when a teacher comes to ask bereavement leave #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:28P.M.
|
My raining for summer schools was reading the job description, then did a lot of materials work and inset, teaching support etc. #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:28P.M.
|
Is becoming DoS a natural step for teachers, professionally? #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:29P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @barbsaka: Is becoming DoS a natural step for Ts professionally? #eltchat > t-training, tesol course leading, DOS
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:29P.M.
|
#eltchat I loved helping people develop but ultimately didn't enjoy paperwork and middle management stuff
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:29P.M.
|
RT @stephchbeach71: #eltchat traditional DOS job is split 2 ways. > we had 4 doses at one point :)
|
|
rliberni
|
2:29P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: RT @Shaunwilden: @barbsaka In my old school we did anonymous feedback on them each year #ELTchat > I do the same thing at my school
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:29P.M.
|
@barbsaka #eltchat it depends... it can be the natural step... but also in some cases the only step! #morecareerdevelopmentinEFLPLEASE
|
|
rliberni
|
2:29P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @barbsaka Although one could claim that classs/people management skills in a T are useful to a DOS #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:29P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @barbsaka: Is becoming DoS a natural step for teachers, professionally? #eltchat > only if you like management
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:29P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Is becoming DoS a natural step for teachers, professionally? I don't think it's a NATURAL step. has its own skills #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:29P.M.
|
@barbsaka I don't know about natural step but in PL schools it seems the logical thing well that or teacher training #ELTchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:29P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @barbsaka In my old school we did anonymous feedback on them each year #ELTchat > I do the same thing at my school
|
|
yearinthelifeof
|
2:29P.M.
|
Last tweet meant as joke, of course #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:29P.M.
|
@barbsaka Although one could claim that classs/people management skills in a T are useful to a DOS #eltchat
|
|
stephchbeach71
|
2:29P.M.
|
#eltchat we don't have "DOS" titles. Instead people develop and work where they have strengths. The traditional DOS job is split 2 ways.
|
|
rliberni
|
2:30P.M.
|
@mubeenfk this is a good point where do you go after DOS? in an ELT career path w/out going to management? #eltchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:30P.M.
|
@barbsaka Or work for a publisher ;-) #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: if you stay in ELT, you become a DOS, open your own school, move to uni, or write materials :-) #eltchat or go freelance -)
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Is becoming DoS a natural step 4 teachers professionally? #eltchat <depends where they want to end up. I want a school so yes!
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: RT @teflerinha: #eltchat loved helping people develop but didn't enjoy paperwork & middle management> Am with you >me too
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:30P.M.
|
I love teaching, but being a DOS gives me so much more stimulation/variety. I'd do it for the same money as a teacher #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: So, if you stay in ELT, eventually you become a DOS, open your own school, move to university, or write materials :-) #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:30P.M.
|
#eltchat I didn't apply for my first DoS job. I wsn't evn thinkng about it when the school offered it. Prob says a lot about the management
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:30P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon DOSes or doses ... of ....? lol #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat I agree... hate paperwork
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @brad5patterson: what interested me in being a DOS was the chance to do more & put some of my ideas into practice. #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat I loved helping people develop but ultimately didn't enjoy paperwork and middle management stuff > Am with you
|
|
rliberni
|
2:30P.M.
|
RT @mubeenfk: @barbsaka #eltchat it depends... it can be the natural step... but also in some cases the only step! #morecareerdevelopmentinEFLPLEASE
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:30P.M.
|
So, if you stay in ELT, eventually you become a DOS, open your own school, move to university, or write materials :-) #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:31P.M.
|
@rliberni writing coursebooks? #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:31P.M.
|
@barbsaka #eltchat or more on to other areas of EFL... testing, marketing, academic and so on
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:31P.M.
|
So many things teachers can be when they grow up :-) #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:31P.M.
|
@stephchbeach71 Interesting - how is the job split? #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:31P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden why are there no sideways moves as in other industries? #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:31P.M.
|
@Marisa_C I think that depends on the school you are DoS #ELTchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:31P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: @barbsaka Or work for a publisher ;-) > Or be a publisher #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:31P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @barbsaka: Is becoming DoS a natural step 4 teachers professionally? #eltchat <depends where they want to end up. I want a school so yes!
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:31P.M.
|
So being a DOS empowers to make decisions one cannot make as a Teacher? #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:31P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden forgot FREELANCE! Thanks. #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:32P.M.
|
Excellent point @Marisa_C Being DoS allows you to make changes you can't as a teacher. #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:32P.M.
|
@JoshSRound Yes, a place higher up in the decision pyramid? #ELTchat
|
|
katrocada
|
2:32P.M.
|
RT @analomba: RT @CameronRomney: Great post! @barbsaka How do you use context in teaching language? http://bit.ly/l8qP3y #eltchat #actfl #tesol #ellchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:32P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: So, if you stay in ELT, eventually you become DOS, open school, move to university, or write materials :-) #eltchat >or train!
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:32P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: RT @Marisa_C: So being a DOS empowers to make decisions #ELTchat can try to influence strategy re direction of school & devlopment of Ts
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:32P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: why are there no sideways moves as in other industries? #eltchat what about academic manager for summer schools?
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:32P.M.
|
@chucksandy @barbsaka ... don't you end up becoming a conference president at some point too ? :) #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:32P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: So being a DOS empowers to make decisions one cannot make as a Teacher? #ELTchat > nice, yes, allows u 2 implement change
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:32P.M.
|
@barbsaka Good one ! "when they grow up" ! #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:32P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: So being a DOS empowers to make decisions #ELTchat can try to influence strategy re direction of school & devlopment of Ts
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:32P.M.
|
@rliberni what would you see as a sideways movement? #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:32P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: So being a DOS empowers to make decisions one cannot make as a Teacher? #ELTchat > nice, yes, allows u 2 implement change
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:33P.M.
|
Love being a DOS and wouldnΒ΄t dream of being a manager #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:33P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: Yes, a place higher up in the decision pyramid? #ELTchat esp how to involve more people in school in collaboration & PD
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:33P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: RT @barbsaka: Excellent point @Marisa_C #eltchat Provided the principal lets u > that's where being good comes in ;)
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:33P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Excellent point @Marisa_C Being DoS allows you to make changes you can't as a teacher. #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:33P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy @barbsaka...dont you end up becoming a conference president at some point too ? :) >not me thanx! #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:33P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: hathat@cerirhiannon Yes, I guess this is the power I was semi joking about. #eltchat > :)
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:33P.M.
|
@timjulian60 yes. the variety element of being a DOS would be attractive to me. #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:33P.M.
|
RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy @barbsaka...dont you end up becoming a conference president at some point too ? :) >not me thanx! #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:33P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Excellent point @Marisa_C Being DoS allows you to make changes you can't as a teacher. #eltchat Provided the principal lets u
|
|
rliberni
|
2:33P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden senior teacher or s'one with special responsibilities for certain areas like heads of depts #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:33P.M.
|
hathat@cerirhiannon Yes, I guess this is the power I was semi joking about. #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:34P.M.
|
RT @harrisonmike: Coming up: #ELTchat – dealing with learners with low levels of literacy (Redux) http://nblo.gs/hRT5o
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:34P.M.
|
I learned more from being a DOS than I learned at any other point in my life really: abt teaching, change, people, curriculum .... #eltchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:34P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Not highly trained but very creative #eltchat
|
|
fguarany
|
2:34P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C I think that depends on the school you are DoS #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:34P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @barbsaka: So many things teachers can be when they grow up #eltchat <think all the other things are real jobs ;) EFL teaching isn't!
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:34P.M.
|
@Marisa_C The more flexible the better. No? #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:34P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: RT @Marisa_C: higher up in the decision pyramid? #ELTchat esp how to involve more peoplein… (cont) http://deck.ly/~0rgnz
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:34P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Well trained - highly would be good but trained is a start :-) #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:34P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Yes should be trained! #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:34P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: Working with the teachers and improving the learning experience #ELTchat (hashtag!:-)
|
|
rliberni
|
2:34P.M.
|
@mk_elt yes that's true they just don't seem so obvious #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:34P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: So many things teachers can be when they grow up #eltchat <think all the other things are real jobs ;) EFL teaching isn't!
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:34P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: So being a DOS empowers to make decisions one cannot make as a Teacher? #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:34P.M.
|
Do you believe that a DOS should be highly trained so they can help with teacher appraisal & support? #ELTchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:34P.M.
|
PLN - any website where i can check the difficulty level of a reading text - i know about readability in ms word #eltchat #elt #esl #efl
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:35P.M.
|
IΒ΄m in charge of academic development...no administrative functions at all. #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:35P.M.
|
@gknightbkk Agree on the"creative" - I often feel like a juggler with too many hats :-) #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:35P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: I learned more from being a DOS than I learned at any other point in my life : .... #eltchat > agree
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:35P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: Love being a DOS and wouldnΒ΄t dream of being a manager #eltchat <would you say a DOS isn't a manager then?
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:35P.M.
|
@Marisa_C #eltchat I think they should, training- highly trained is a matter of opinion i think
|
|
yearinthelifeof
|
2:35P.M.
|
Do you believe that a DOS should be highly trained so they can help with teacher appraisal & support? #ELTchat Yes
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:35P.M.
|
Working with the teachers and improving the learning experience is a great experience #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:35P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: I learned more from being a DOS than I learned at any other point in my life really: abt teaching, change, people, curriculum .... #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:35P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: I learned more from being a DOS than I learned at any other point in my life really: abt teaching, change, people, curriculum .... #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:35P.M.
|
@vickysaumell How is DoS and Manager different, Vicky? #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:35P.M.
|
#eltchat how much of a good DoS is training, how much is talent?
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:35P.M.
|
RT @teacher_prix: RT @Marisa_C: So being a DOS empowers to make decisions one cannot make as a Teacher? I think this is true #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:35P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden I guess and also in Colleges and Uniis you have this so maybe the nxt step is a bigger org - just musing :-) #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:35P.M.
|
@SteveSmith_tefl #EFL #elt #ELTChat http://bit.ly/9dAbXZ
|
|
rliberni
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @hartle: RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat should dos's have to attend conferences/use twitter/other means to keep up with EF… (cont) http://deck.ly/~0xKQn
|
|
rliberni
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @BobK99: Just arrtived for #eltchat; catching up. Slow down!
|
|
hartle
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat should dos's have to attend conferences/use twitter/other means to keep up with EF… (cont) http://deck.ly/~0xKQn
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:36P.M.
|
RE @marisa_C Should DOS be highly trained so they can help with teacher appraisal & support? #ELTchat >> yes and no. experience prob + impt
|
|
BobK99
|
2:36P.M.
|
Just arrtived for #eltchat; catching up. Slow down!
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:36P.M.
|
@vickysaumell I wish I could do that too Vicky #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:36P.M.
|
#eltchat should dos's have to attend conferences/use twitter/other means to keep up with EFL world so school doesnt get stuck in time warp?
|
|
rliberni
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: RT @vickysaumell: Working with the teachers and improving the learning experience is a great experience #eltchat agree, can be v rewarding
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: #eltchat how much of a good DoS is training, how much is talent? > and how much is experience (of being DOSed too)
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: I learned more from being a DOS than I learned at any other point in my life .. #eltchat Me too!
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: Working with the teachers and improving the learning experience is a great experience #eltchat agree, can be v rewarding
|
|
rliberni
|
2:36P.M.
|
@yearinthelifeof so are they effectively line managers as well as academic directors? #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:36P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: Do you believe that a DOS should be HIGHLY trained so they can help with teacher appraisal & support? #ELTchat<any training gd
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:37P.M.
|
@rliberni shouldn't HAVE TO but should. to keep up with what's going on in the profession, no? #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:37P.M.
|
@rliberni It's worth musing - -Dos, HoD, ADOS, ST can all b same thg #ELTchat Yes, I've seen that too
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:37P.M.
|
Should DOS role be split into academic side and admin/managerial. so 2 roles... ? #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:37P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @rliberni Dos, HoD, ADOS, ST can all b same thg #ELTchat > depends totally on context
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:37P.M.
|
@cherrymp I hate time zones. #ELTchat
|
|
stephchbeach71
|
2:37P.M.
|
@brad5patterson @marisa_C What would constitute "highly" trained? #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:37P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat should dos's have to attend conferences/use twitter/other means to keep up with EFL world so school doesnt get stuck in time warp?
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:37P.M.
|
@rliberni It's worth musing -I dont think there' s much standardization of positions in elt -Dos, HoD, ADOS, ST can all b same thg #ELTchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:37P.M.
|
got confused with the timezones - arrived - catching up #ELTchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:37P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat should dos's have to attend conferences/use twitter/other means to keep up with EFL world so school doesnt get stuck in time warp?
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:37P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @chucksandy: I learned more from being a DOS than I learned at any other point in my life .. #eltchat Me too! > Indeed!
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:37P.M.
|
RT @SteveSmith_tefl: I need something TBL based with authentic material for my advanced #EFL class. Any links for me twitter friends? Thanks :-) #elt #ELTChat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:38P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: shouldn't HAVE TO but should. to keep up with what's going on in the profession, no? #eltchat <hey should want to!>
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:38P.M.
|
@chucksandy I like that... gives a more "creative" feel to DOS >>> RE "chance to do more and put some of my ideas into practice" #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:38P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: Should DOS role be split into academic side and admin/managerial. so 2 roles... ? #eltchat > I like that
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:38P.M.
|
#ELTchat I see it as my resp to understand what is 'latest' in ELT . then try to feed back in to teaching & learning > twitter a big help
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:38P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Yes/No. What would be a def for a DOS - If u have a trainer in charge of staff and DOS is only dealing with management... #ELTChat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:38P.M.
|
I think we should not only talk abt DOSes in large organisations but also in smaller centres (like mine for example) #ELTchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:38P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Defintely think DOSes should get some training (not necessarily highly trained). There are a lot of new skills #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:38P.M.
|
@barbsaka yup wt to do - necessary evils of our times #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: @Marisa_C what differences between dos-ing in big school and small school? #eltchat
|
|
theteacherjames
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: #ELTchat I see it as my resp to understand what is 'latest' in ELT . then try to feed back in to teaching & learning
|
|
rliberni
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @teflerinha I agree with you - a DOS should be a good role model - people learn best from models #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:39P.M.
|
@Marisa_C what differences between dos-ing in big school and small school? #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:39P.M.
|
esp wen elt is such a diverse and dynamic field dos should make use of all the available means to catch up #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: RT @Marisa_C: I think we should not only talk abt DOSes in large organisations but also in smaller centres (like mine for example) #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:39P.M.
|
@teflerinha I agree with you - a DOS should be a good role model - people learn best from models #ELTchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:39P.M.
|
@LizziePinard If schools aren't encouraging DOS to attend conferences/ use twitter / have a PLN they -are- stuck in a time warm ^^ #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: also in smaller centres #ELTchat > I DOSed in a v small school b4 moving to a larger one - gr8 training ground!
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: I think we should not only talk abt DOSes in large organisations but also in smaller centres (like mine for example) #ELTchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: #ELTchat my resp to understand what is 'latest' in ELT . then try to feed back ito teaching & learning > twitter a big help
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: #ELTchat I see it as my resp 2 understand whats 'latest' in ELT . then try 2 feed back in 2 teaching & learning > Absolutely
|
|
rliberni
|
2:39P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden true having a loose structure is good on the one hand but gives less wiggle room for teachers I feel #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: RT @vickysaumell: Should DOS role be split into academic side and admin/managerial. so 2 roles... ? #eltchat > Wear different colour hats!
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:39P.M.
|
DOS should of course attend conferences, do Twitter etc, but they should also push for and enable CPD for staff #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:39P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: Should DOS role be split into academic side and admin/managerial. so 2 roles... ? #eltchat > Wear different colour hats!
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:40P.M.
|
Diff between big and small schools > Fewer teachers and students to manage make it easier #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @hartle: IN times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat need to push free online PD
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:40P.M.
|
@brad5patterson: being a DOS is where i found out that not every idea I have is a good one ^^But important to try things out to see #eltchat
|
|
stephchbeach71
|
2:40P.M.
|
@mk_elt @vickysaumell This can work #eltchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @LizziePinard Being a DOS in a small centre means I have to wear more hats #eltchat > and learn more about all those hats
|
|
hartle
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @LizziePinard Being a DOS in a small centre means I have to wear more hats #eltchat yes the smaller the more hats
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @LizziePinard Being a DOS in a small centre means I have to wear more hats #eltchat true well said
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: RT @LizziePinard: what differences between dos-ing in big school and small school? #eltchat Th… (cont) http://deck.ly/~f6UJZ
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @hartle: how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat The DoS is therefore the cheapest option!
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @pjgallan: DOS should of course attend conferences, do Twitter etc, but they should also push for and enable CPD for staff #eltchat yes!
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:40P.M.
|
@LizziePinard the amt u need to manage - dat itself could mean a lot #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:40P.M.
|
@LizziePinard Being a DOS in a small centre means I have to wear more hats #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:40P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal yes they should lead by example #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:40P.M.
|
@barbsaka @cherrymp especially when they change, or you change within them ! #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:40P.M.
|
IN these times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:40P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: #ELTchat I see it as my resp to understand what is 'latest' in ELT . then try to feed back i… (cont) http://deck.ly/~onALF
|
|
hartle
|
2:41P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: RT @hartle: #eltchat need to push free online PD yes that's good but conferences are rewarding teachers need this too
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:41P.M.
|
@hartle Shouldn't teacher development be part of DOS' job description, without any extra money? #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:41P.M.
|
Diff between big and small schools > #eltchat DoS knows the names of Ts (not joking)
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:41P.M.
|
RT @hartle: IN these times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat good question!!!
|
|
rliberni
|
2:41P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: A DOS shouldn't be the *gatekeeper* of latest conference stuff etc, cascading down to staff: should encourage Ts to partcicpate #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:41P.M.
|
A DOS shouldn't be the *gatekeeper* of latest conference stuff etc, cascading down to staff: should encourage Ts to partcicpate #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:41P.M.
|
@hartle nit much money for PD but lots of stuff available for free - just needs tchrs time - like us here! #eltchat
|
|
LaborTeacher
|
2:41P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @pjgallantry: good DOS:ears of a bat,eagle eyes, heart of gold, nerves of steel,hide of a rhinoceros #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:41P.M.
|
RT @cherrymp: esp wen elt is such a diverse and dynamic field dos should make use of all the available means to catch up #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon #eltchat > I'd love to go back to a hands-on small school as DOS :) best job there is!
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: RT @hartle: IN times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat need to push free online PD
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @cherrymp: DOS should nurture young talent #ELTchat Yes mentoring and nurturing
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @cherrymp: DOS should nurture young talent #ELTchat #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:42P.M.
|
#eltchat In my experience the problem is not DOSes denying teachers PD opportunities - most are very strong on this (budget permitting)
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:42P.M.
|
@brad5patterson @cherrymp YES! #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:42P.M.
|
@chucksandy In small schools, with just one DOS and non-teaching school owners (like here) who should be doing the encouraging? #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:42P.M.
|
@hartle Prof develop may cost but essential, esp 4 newly qualified teachers- think ths is key role 4 DoS in schools w/ many NQT #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @LizziePinard Being a DOS in a small centre means I have to wear more hats #eltchat > and learn more about all those hats
|
|
hartle
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @hartle #eltchat What abt if you want to invite speakers to do workshops etc.?
|
|
rliberni
|
2:42P.M.
|
@pjgallantry even in a small school tchrs & DOS can take turns to attend and cascade - no? #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:42P.M.
|
DOS should nurture young talent #ELTchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: RT @hartle: IN times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat need to push free online PD
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:42P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: small schools > Fewer teachers and students to manage make it easier #eltchat> usually means + teaching + varied teaching
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:42P.M.
|
DOS are the driving force for cohesion and CPD in a school #eltchat
|
|
DaveDodgson
|
2:42P.M.
|
By @englishraven The last hurrah (for now) - Part 1 http://bit.ly/kLrpx5 #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:42P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon So, either I grow up to be a big DOS or my school grows to have more DOSes? :-D #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:42P.M.
|
@Marisa_C @LizziePinard #eltchat, number of teachers!!!! I I would love to be in a small school with the same budget! :-)
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:43P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: @hartle nit much money for PD but lots of stuff available for free - just needs tchrs time - like us here! #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:43P.M.
|
RT @hartle: IN these times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:43P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: you should be encouraging each other. #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:43P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Good question! RT @hartle: IN these times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat
|
|
adhockley
|
2:43P.M.
|
#eltchat Problem lies in DOSes sacrficing their own PD in favour of everybody else
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:43P.M.
|
Good question! RT @hartle: IN these times of economic crisis how much money is available for prof. development of teachers? #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:43P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: A DOS shouldn't be the *gatekeeper* of latest conference stuff etc, cascading down to staff: should encourage Ts to partcicpate #eltchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:43P.M.
|
@hartle #ELTchat we sponsor at least 4 Ts to go to conferences each year, then blog abt it, or feedback in meeting/workshop
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:43P.M.
|
RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy kind of like class :) #eltchat RE: being a DOS is where i found that not every idea I have is a good one> :)
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:43P.M.
|
@chucksandy kind of like class :) #eltchat RE: being a DOS is where i found that not every idea I have is a good one ^^But important to try
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:43P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: #eltchat In my experience the problem is not DOSes denying teachers PD opportunities - most are very strong on this (budget permitting)
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:43P.M.
|
Help pls! Observe-hypothesize-experiment confusion http://wp.me/p18yiK-9f No idea how to apply to my classes. TY! #eltchat #efl #esl #esol
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:44P.M.
|
RT @hartle: RT @JoshSRound: @hartle #ELTchat we sponsor at least 4 Ts ... > at small school all teaching staff went including owners
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:44P.M.
|
RT @cherrymp: DOS should nurture young talent #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:44P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: A DOS shouldn't be the *gatekeeper* of latest conference stuff etc, cascading down to staff: should encourage Ts to partcicpate #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:44P.M.
|
DOS should encourage use of free stuff available, should know about it not stay using same old year in and out.....#eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:44P.M.
|
RT @rliberni even in a small school tchrs & DOS can take turns to attend and cascade - no? #eltchat - of course-democratic+empowering all
|
|
hartle
|
2:44P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: @hartle #ELTchat we sponsor at least 4 Ts ... thts really good
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:45P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: @pjgallantry even in a small school tchrs & DOS can take turns to attend and cascade - no? #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:45P.M.
|
@hartle @JoshSRound this should be common practice for EFL schools, well done! #ELTchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:45P.M.
|
In Ih we're lucky we have 150+ Doses who can share info and help each other if they choose to #ELTchat
|
|
hoprea
|
2:45P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: Even a school with a small budget can encourage free PD online now #ELTchat but DOS must be aware of opportunities
|
|
rliberni
|
2:45P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: Even a school with a small budget can encourage free PD online now #ELTchat but DOS must be aware of opportunities
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:45P.M.
|
@rliberni Do you mean cascade information from conferences? #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:45P.M.
|
RT @teacher_prix: A DOS should be someone beginner teachers look up to... #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:45P.M.
|
RT @hoprea: RT @barbsaka: RT @cherrymp: DOS should nurture young talent #ELTchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:45P.M.
|
Some teachers loath INSET excuses like OH it's Saturday... have to do the shopping!! #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:45P.M.
|
Even a school with a small budget can encourage free PD online now #ELTchat but DOS must be aware of opportunities
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:45P.M.
|
I getta WATCH the plenary !!! Thnx Jason RT @davedodgson By @englishraven The last hurrah (for now) - Part 1 http://bit.ly/kLrpx5 #ELTchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:45P.M.
|
A DOS should be someone beginner teachers look up to... #ELTchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:45P.M.
|
If your school has a good office manger it's a huge advantage - means I can concentrate on education/teacher support #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:45P.M.
|
do 1 really have to move out to do their pd in this era of IT - i wonder - it's time & access to rt resources dos kn relax #ELTchat
|
|
hoprea
|
2:45P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: RT @cherrymp: DOS should nurture young talent #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:46P.M.
|
Our DoS invited the local JALT (TESOL/IATEFL) chapter to meet at the school. Made it easy for teachers to attend PD. #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: A bad DOS hoards his/her authority/knowledge etc; a good DOS spends and distributes it wisely #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:46P.M.
|
@Marisa_C #ELTCHAT agreed
|
|
hartle
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @hartle: Some teachers loath INSET excuses like OH it's Saturday... have to do the shopping!! #ELTchat > maybe Sunday?
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: A bad DOS hoards his/her authority/knowledge etc; a good DOS spends and distributes it wisely #eltchat > Gd Point!
|
|
rliberni
|
2:46P.M.
|
@sandymillin yes, sometimes schools can't afford for everyone to go but could change who attends and feeds back #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: And to motivate the Satrurday shoppers, they have to be able to inspire & reward for CPD < yes #eltchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon #eltchat > love to go back to a hands-on small school as DOS :) best job there is! agree!
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: @cerirhiannon @brad5patterson @chucksandy Proposing ideas but being open 2 others proposed by tchs creates a team work atmosphere #ELTchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: Even a school with a small budget can encourage free PD online now #ELTchat but DOS must be aware of opportunities
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: In Ih we're lucky we have 150+ Doses who can share info and help each other if they choose to #ELTchat This wrkd for me
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:46P.M.
|
A bad DOS hoards his/her authority/knowledge etc; a good DOS spends and distributes it wisely #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:46P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon @brad5patterson @chucksandy Proposing ideas but being open 2 others proposed by tchs creates a team work atmosphere #ELTchat
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @cherrymp: DOS should help teachers to come out of the loneliness exp in teaching - to communicate, network, share #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:46P.M.
|
And to motivate the Satrurday shoppers, they have to be able to inspire & reward for CPD #ELTchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:46P.M.
|
DOS should help teachers to come out of the loneliness exp in teaching - to communicate, network, share #ELTchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @JoshSRound: @hartle #ELTchat we sponsor at least 4 Ts to go to conferences each year, then blog abt it, or feedback in meeting/workshop
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:46P.M.
|
RT @hartle: Some teachers loath INSET excuses like OH it's Saturday... have to do the shopping!! #ELTchat > then inset shldn't be on Sat! :)
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: So engage with your local Teachers' Association ? #ELTchat or start #doseltchat group? :-D
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: RT @pjgallantry: A bad DOS hoards his/her authority/knowledge etc; a good DOS spends and distributes it wisely #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: Even a school with a small budget can encourage free PD online now #ELTchat but DOS must be aware of opportunities <Exactly>!
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @hoprea: RT @pjgallantry: A bad DOS hoards his/her authority/knowledge etc; a good DOS spends and distributes it wisely #eltchat > YES!
|
|
rliberni
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: So engage with your local Teachers' Association ? #ELTchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:47P.M.
|
suddenly, I miss being a DOS ^^ But now I'm DOS of my own classes I guess #eltchat
|
|
BethCagnol
|
2:47P.M.
|
#eltchat Wish I could participate with you guys! I'm in the middle of 6 hours of oral exams this afternoon. Have fun w/o me!
|
|
rliberni
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @adhockley: #eltchat Problem lies in DOSes sacrficing their own PD in favour of everybody else >don't think sacrifice needed if sharing
|
|
hoprea
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: A bad DOS hoards his/her authority/knowledge etc; a good DOS spends and distributes it wisely #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:47P.M.
|
So engage with your local Teachers' Association ? #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Our DoS invited the local JALT (TESOL/IATEFL) chapter to meet at the school. Made it easy for teachers to attend PD. #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:47P.M.
|
@Marisa_C #eltchat sounds like a v good idea!
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @adhockley: #eltchat Problem lies in DOSes sacrficing their own PD in favour of everybody else >don't think sacrifice needed if sharing
|
|
hartle
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Our DoS invited the local JALT (TESOL/IATEFL) chapter to meet at the school. #eltchat Thta's good
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Our DoS invited the local JALT (TESOL/IATEFL) chapter to meet at the school. Made it easy for teachers to attend PD. #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @timjulian60: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon #eltchat > love to go back to a hands-on small school as DOS :) best job there is! agree!
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: @cerirhiannon @brad5patterson @chucksandy Proposing ideas but being open 2 others proposed by tchs creates a team work atmosphere #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: RT @Marisa_C: And to motivate the Satrurday shoppers, they have to be able to inspire & reward for CPD < yes #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:47P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Our DoS invited the local JALT (TESOL/IATEFL) chapter to meet at the school. Made it easy for teachers to attend PD. #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:48P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal No, in most yes but in some schools that is done by the teacher trainers - DoS is more admin #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: A bad DOS hoards his/her authority/knowledge etc; a good DOS spends and distributes it wisely #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: If I increase spending on Ts PD, what return can I expect? #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @hartle: IN one school I organised PD led by a different teacher each time. That worked well #ELTchat > Interesting!
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:48P.M.
|
#eltchat sorry got dragged away....anybody mentioned LONDOSA yet?
|
|
rliberni
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: I also think Ts are greatly motivated if they are asked to shine by presenting to their colleagues #ELTchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:48P.M.
|
If I increase spending on Ts PD, what return can I expect? #eltchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @hartle: Some teachers loath INSET excuses like OH it's Saturday... have to do the shopping!! I try to weed them out! #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:48P.M.
|
I also think Ts are greatly motivated if they are asked to shine by presenting to their colleagues #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:48P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden Lol! r u volunteering? #eltchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:48P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden Lucky! #ELTchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:48P.M.
|
IN one school I organised PD led by a different teacher each time. That worked well #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: And to motivate the Satrurday shoppers, they have to be able to inspire & reward for CPD #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @cherrymp: DOS should help teachers to come out of the loneliness exp in teaching - to communicate, network, share #ELTchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:48P.M.
|
would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: RT @Marisa_C: Even a school with a small budget can encourage free PD online now #ELTchat but DOS must be aware of opportunities <Exactly>!
|
|
cerirhiannon
|
2:48P.M.
|
#eltchat hate to leave but it's time to pick the kids up from school - great chat as always! thank you :)
|
|
hartle
|
2:48P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @adhockley: #eltchat Problem lies in DOSes sacrficing their own PD ... yes isn't it a case of developing together
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:49P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: @Shaunwilden Lol! r u volunteering? #eltchat It would b intersting to know how many DoSes use twitter & attend chat #ELTchat
|
|
krabongtan6213
|
2:49P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:49P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat <- Definitely
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:49P.M.
|
@hoprea Yes, the heart of an ELT manager's job is TD I think #eltchat
|
|
brad5patterson
|
2:49P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon take care Ceri. I'm off too. Gotta make lunch b4 my sweetie gets home. ♥ #eltchat and now on a two-week streak! Yahoo :)
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:49P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat Yes, esp with NQTs
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:49P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? < yes, completely #eltchat
|
|
hoprea
|
2:49P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat <- IMO, yes.
|
|
fionamau
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @AnthonyGaughan @bamarcia: Discussing Dogme #breltchat @CeciELT interviews @fionamau http://bit.ly/iHUSbj #dogme #TEFL #ELT #ESL #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat <yes
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: So engage with your local Teachers' Association ? #ELTchat And get T's involved!
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:50P.M.
|
@cerirhiannon Give the kids a hug from us. From ALL of us :) #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:50P.M.
|
I think paying for Ts to become members of a local TA is great but so few schools do it! #ELTchat
|
|
theteacherjames
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? - Absolutely, wish I'd had more from mine #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @chucksandy: anyone work in a context where there's no "formal" DOS but where one or more has emerged informally from the faculty? #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:50P.M.
|
anyone work in a context where there's no "formal" DOS but where one or more has emerged informally from the faculty? #eltchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: I also think Ts are greatly motivated if they are asked to shine by presenting to their colleagues absolutely! #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: I also think Ts are greatly motivated if they are asked to shine by presenting to their colleagues #ELTchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat <- no doubt
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:50P.M.
|
@Marisa_C If there are local associations, it's a great to get teachers involved #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:50P.M.
|
RT @naomishema: I Just blogged: The Second Question related to β€The Coursebook Conundrumβ€: Recycling Vocabulary http://bit.ly/kwZcuL #eltchat #dogme
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:51P.M.
|
A DOS should know how to create Quality Circles in their school #ELTchat - for CPD and self-help
|
|
JoshSRound
|
2:51P.M.
|
#ELTchat sorry, just got dragged away for a mo - bloody teachers (!!)
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:51P.M.
|
Fair Q. Wld better trained teachers leave? RT @gknightbkk: If I increase spending on Ts PD, what return can I expect? #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:51P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden very true! #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:51P.M.
|
local Teachers' Association ? #ELTchat And get T's involved! My Ts always asked if they'd get paid for doing it :(
|
|
BobK99
|
2:51P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @rliberni: @Shaunwilden ... #eltchat It wd b intersting to know how many DoSes use twitter & attend chat #ELTchat - very
|
|
eyespeakbrasil
|
2:51P.M.
|
Absolutely @Marisa_C couldn't agree more #ELTchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:51P.M.
|
olleagues RT @timjulian60: RT @Marisa_C: Ts presenting to colleagues works very well IMO #ELTchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:51P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: RT @OUPELTGlobal: would every1 agree that TD is one of the most important jobs for a DoS? #eltchat <yes
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:51P.M.
|
@chucksandy an informal DoS - that would be interesting #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:51P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @hoprea Yes, the heart of an ELT manager's job is TD I think #eltchat ....should be!!
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:51P.M.
|
Our photos from #IATEFL are up on Facebook http://oxford.ly/lD9nK3 (no account needed to view) #ELT #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:52P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: A DOS should know how to create Quality Circles in their school #ELTchat - for CPD and self-help
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:52P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @BobK99 @rliberni I'll set up a poll and ask #ELTchat > Great!
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:52P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: A DOS should know how to create Quality Circles in their school #ELTchat - for CPD and self-help > gd pt
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:52P.M.
|
@BobK99 @rliberni I'll set up a poll and ask #ELTchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:52P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: @Shaunwilden ... #eltchat It wd b intersting to know how many DoSes use twitter & attend chat #ELTchat - > I do!
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:52P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: an informal DoS - that would be interesting > actually, I think this is the situation in many Uni depts etc #eltchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:52P.M.
|
In Verona uni we have coordinators for different projects #ELTchat... no DOS
|
|
rliberni
|
2:53P.M.
|
@LizziePinard this is a perennial tale about teachers alas #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:53P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: A DOS should also not just limit themselves to CPD but create and bond Ts through social activities #ELTchat
|
|
eyespeakbrasil
|
2:53P.M.
|
Mmm getting that transparency from a DOS might be a challenge #ELTchat
|
|
hartle
|
2:53P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat my colleagues dont know about twitter so d... I have same problem
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:53P.M.
|
Working with web 2.0 tools for CPD works well and respects teachers lack of time for f2f meetings #ELTchat
|
|
BobK99
|
2:53P.M.
|
@Shaunwilden #eltchat - Thx
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:53P.M.
|
A DOS should also not just limit themselves to CPD but create and bond Ts through social activities #ELTchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:53P.M.
|
@chucksandy so what qualities do these informal DoS have that allow them to rise so naturally, obviously accepted by others? #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:53P.M.
|
#eltchat my colleagues dont know about twitter so ive tried to infrm them abut it but i dnt think they are interested...
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:53P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: My Ts always asked if they'd get paid for doing it :(Always told mine- pay is lousy bt you get great training instead! #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:53P.M.
|
Centenarian’s desire to learn does not dim http://bit.ly/lDlSIF Inspiring! #edchat #eltchat #lifelong learning #teachers
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:54P.M.
|
#eltchat@Shaunwilden neither ds my dos kno but twitter
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:54P.M.
|
@sandymillin That's nice! #eltchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:54P.M.
|
@teflerinha @mk_elt #eltchat but why not pay some for doing it?
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:54P.M.
|
RT @eyespeakbrasil: Mmm getting that transparency from a DOS might be a challenge #ELTchat Ivory tower syndrom
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:54P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: what qualities do these informal DoS have? > leadership skills, enthusiasm, projects to collaborate on .... #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:54P.M.
|
#eltchat DOS here organises weekends away for teachers to join in...esp. good for non-natives. One of the best things about this school
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:54P.M.
|
RT @hartle: RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat my colleagues dont know about twitter so - They just dont know what they are missing!
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:54P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @mk_elt: My Ts always asked if they'd get paid for doing it :(Always told mine- pay is lousy bt you get great training instead! #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:54P.M.
|
last 5 minutes of chat already! #eltchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:55P.M.
|
@oupeltglobal > actually I haven't worked in a context w/ a DOS in years. It's all informal & cooperative. Works fine -- usually #eltchat
|
|
BobK99
|
2:55P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: I think a good DOS should be able to deal with apathetic & complacent Ts - galvanize them into passion for PD! #ELTchat! Gd pt
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:55P.M.
|
@chucksandy leadership skills and enthusiasm - I could with such a person, happily #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:55P.M.
|
her@mubeenfk Back to being squeezed btwn teachers and management who won't/can't pay #eltchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:55P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat DOS here organises weekends away for Ts t join in...esp. good for non-natives. --> Twitter needs a like button !
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:55P.M.
|
@Marisa_C #eltchat ... what are oyu suggesting? :-)
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:55P.M.
|
@LizziePinard well make it your mission for the week ;-) #ELTchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
2:55P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal @chucksandy Natural born leaders ENTJ #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:55P.M.
|
I think a good DOS should be able to deal with apathetic & complacent Ts - galvanize them into passion for PD! #ELTchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:55P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @hartle: RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat my colleagues dont know about twitter so - They ju… (cont) http://deck.ly/~OjBRb
|
|
hartle
|
2:55P.M.
|
Thnx everyone, enlightening chat. Have to go now exams call yet again :-( #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:56P.M.
|
But, a lot of the lack of motivation in Ts is the direct result of low pay & lack of recognition - let's not forget that #ELTchat
|
|
hoprea
|
2:56P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: Lack of time is a great drawback for CPD. Most schools do not pay for it! #ELTchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:56P.M.
|
RT @pjgallantry: time to go - have some cats to herd ;) #eltchat > LOL
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:56P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: I could with such a person, happily > come and join us ^^ #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:56P.M.
|
@pjgallantry Thanks for joining in #ELTchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:56P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: @mubeenfk Motivate those who think they need no more PD to WANT to do more PD #eltchat
|
|
pjgallantry
|
2:56P.M.
|
time to go - have some cats to herd ;) #eltchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:56P.M.
|
@mubeenfk Motivate those who think they need no more PD to WANT to do more PD #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:56P.M.
|
Lack of time is a great drawback for CPD. Most schools do not pay for it! #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:56P.M.
|
#eltchat "oh thats nice" ...back to same old =resp
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:57P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it, then you can't imagine how you got by without :-) #eltchat <2nded!
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:57P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it, and then you can't imagine how you got by without :-) #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:57P.M.
|
thanx eb - though l8 had a gr8 tym aftr a while #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
2:57P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it, and then you can't imagine how you got by without :-) #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:57P.M.
|
RT @eyespeakbrasil: Well a DOS needs to be at the leading edge of whats happening in the market, sharing ideas, and collaborating with T's #ELTchat
|
|
chucksandy
|
2:57P.M.
|
thanks for an interesting chat as always ya'll ^^ Hear, hear for the moderators & all who contributed. #eltchat
|
|
sandymillin
|
2:57P.M.
|
RT @teacher_prix: When it's time to become a DOS I know where get the 'Top Tips to be an awesome DOS'! #ELTChat :)
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
2:57P.M.
|
RT @teacher_prix: When it's time to become a DOS I know where get the 'Top Tips to be an awesome DOS'! Thx for a great chat! #ELTChat
|
|
mk_elt
|
2:57P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: never used twitter until this forum, now love it and looking for more opportunities #eltchat Same here. It's fab!
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:57P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: But, a lot of the lack of motivation in Ts is the direct result of low pay & lack of recognition - let's not forget that #ELTchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
2:57P.M.
|
When it's time to become a DOS I know where get the 'Top Tips to be an awesome DOS'! Thx for a great chat! #ELTChat
|
|
eyespeakbrasil
|
2:57P.M.
|
Well a DOS needs to be at the leading edge of whats happening in the market, sharing ideas, and collaborating with T's #ELTchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:57P.M.
|
never used twitter until this forum, now love it and looking for more opportunities #eltchat
|
|
eyespeakbrasil
|
2:58P.M.
|
A great DOS has their T's tweeting #ELTchat
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:58P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it, and then you can't imagine how you got by without :-) #eltchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
2:58P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: low pay & lack of recognition - let's not forget that #ELTchat Hear hear
|
|
eyespeakbrasil
|
2:58P.M.
|
love twitter, inspirational #ELTchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:58P.M.
|
@vickysaumell wow, is that true. I think good teachers are naturally motivated, no? #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
2:58P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it #eltchat > So true!
|
|
timjulian60
|
2:58P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it, and then you can't imagine how you got by without :-) #eltchat
|
|
cherrymp
|
2:58P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: @OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it, and then you can't imagine how you got by without :-) #eltchat >true
|
|
kenmorrison30
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @barbsaka: Here's the link to my #KOTESOL presentation (Power of Connection) and links: http://bit.ly/m1zJ3W #eltchat
|
|
rowelc
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @russell1955: RT @Marisa_C: RT @janetbianchini: Jazz up your lessons with #digitalstorytelling #SEETA http://tinyurl.com/6bu4n2q #eltchat #elt #efl
|
|
teacherdude
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: A T in Greece who asks for 15 euros doesn't get the job - the kid who fixed my PC asks for 60 an hour and no one murmurs #ELTchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat DOS here organises weekends away for teachers to join in...esp. good for non-natives. One of the best things about this school
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: RT @barbsaka: @OUPELTGlobal Twitter never makes sense until you use it #eltchat > So true!
|
|
mubeenfk
|
2:59P.M.
|
@teflerinha @Marisa_C #eltchat...hear hear double!!1
|
|
Marisa_C
|
2:59P.M.
|
A T in Greece who asks for 15 euros doesn't get the job - the kid who fixed my PC asks for 60 an hour and no one murmurs #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
2:59P.M.
|
argh tweetdeck BAD #eltchat
|
|
BobK99
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @teflerinha: RT @Marisa_C: low pay & lack of recognition - let's not forget that #ELTchat Hear hear! HEAR HEAR HEAR
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @eyespeakbrasil: A great DOS has their T's tweeting #ELTchat #eltchat
|
|
rliberni
|
2:59P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: A DOS should also not just limit themselves to CPD but create and bond Ts through social activities #ELTchat
|
|
mk_elt
|
3:00P.M.
|
#eltchat Thanks for the chat and the (online) company! Really enjoyed my first #eltchat and look forward to the transcript later
|
|
barbsaka
|
3:00P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Methinks I would get distracted by shiny things :-) #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
3:00P.M.
|
RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat can i summarise? i like summarising... > Please!
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:00P.M.
|
@LizziePinard I would LOVE you to summarise it! #eltchat
|
|
BobK99
|
3:00P.M.
|
Bye #eltchat - lunch calls. Great as usual.
|
|
vickysaumell
|
3:00P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal #eltchat .... hard 2 make them want 2 invest time on CPD... Yet some do!
|
|
LizziePinard
|
3:00P.M.
|
#eltchat can i summarise? i like summarising...
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:00P.M.
|
@barbsaka But methinks you would be a great one! #eltchat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
3:00P.M.
|
As we draw to a close don't forget the 9 BST chat on the use of β€storytelling’ in class, #ELTchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
3:00P.M.
|
@eyespeakbrasil good point. A great DoS has good social skills, a people person #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
3:00P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: A T in Greece who asks for 15 euros doesn't get the job - the kid who fixed my PC asks for 60 an hour and no one murmurs #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
3:00P.M.
|
Well, lovelies, I learned a lot from you--never been a DoS :-) Thanks! #eltchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
3:00P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal #eltchat But in Argentina, tchs have 2 to 4 diff schools & very low pay.... hard 2 make them want 2 invest time on CPD...
|
|
rliberni
|
3:00P.M.
|
RT @kalinagoenglish: Help out @tombarrett: One Question Survey re teacher training- http://bit.ly/lnJSVS #eltchat #elt #edtech
|
|
rliberni
|
3:01P.M.
|
Thanks for gr8 chat everyone & Fab mods @Shaunwilden @barbsaka @Marisa_C certainly DOS material!! #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
3:01P.M.
|
Thanks every1. Great as always. and thanks to the moderators!!! #eltchat
|
|
BobK99
|
3:01P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: @LizziePinard Sure you did a great job last time :-) Thanks for offering #ELTchat: Can't wait - missed 1st half
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:01P.M.
|
@teacherdude Not when ANYONE is allowed to teach for next to nothing - and they have no quality standards #ELTchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
3:01P.M.
|
#eltchat argh jammed again....
|
|
sandymillin
|
3:01P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: As we draw to a close don't forget the 9 BST chat on the use of β€storytelling’ in class, #ELTchat
|
|
barbsaka
|
3:01P.M.
|
Yay Lizzie for fab summaries! RT @Shaunwilden: @LizziePinard Sure you did a great job last time :-) Thanks for offering #ELTchat
|
|
vickysaumell
|
3:01P.M.
|
Thanks for another great #ELTchat
|
|
teflerinha
|
3:01P.M.
|
Thanks for the #eltchat everyone. Only planned to drop in for a few minutes....
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
3:01P.M.
|
@LizziePinard Sure you did a great job last time :-) Thanks for offering #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:02P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: Thanks for gr8 chat everyone & Fab mods @Shaunwilden @barbsaka @Marisa_C certainly DOS material!! #eltchat > any offers?
|
|
eyespeakbrasil
|
3:02P.M.
|
Tchau friends and amigos #ELTchat
|
|
JoshSRound
|
3:02P.M.
|
thanks for the chat, ideas, and humour - great to share with so many thought-provoking contributors #ELTchat
|
|
gknightbkk
|
3:02P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: Thanks for gr8 chat everyone & Fab mods @Shaunwilden @barbsaka @Marisa_C certainly DOS material!! #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
3:02P.M.
|
#eltchat thanks :-D
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:02P.M.
|
@mubeenfk Thanks ever so much! See you on the next one? #eltchat
|
|
vickyloras
|
3:02P.M.
|
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Our photos from #IATEFL are up on Facebook http://oxford.ly/lD9nK3 (no account needed to view) #ELT #ELTchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
3:03P.M.
|
@mk_elt Yay!!! =) #ELTChat
|
|
Shaunwilden
|
3:03P.M.
|
@Marisa_C Oh no am happy sat at my desk with my online friends don't need the DoS stress :-) #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:03P.M.
|
@OUPELTGlobal Thanks for joining :-) see you on the next one? #eltchat
|
|
LizziePinard
|
3:03P.M.
|
#eltchat wish second session wasnt 3 am here.... good topic too....
|
|
mk_elt
|
3:03P.M.
|
RT @mubeenfk: @teflerinha @mk_elt #eltchat but why not pay some for doing it? Coz the school wouldn't and i wasn't given a budget : o
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:03P.M.
|
@timjulian60 thanks for joining! see you soon #eltchat #eltchat
|
|
theteacherjames
|
3:03P.M.
|
RT @rliberni: Thanks for gr8 chat everyone & Fab mods @Shaunwilden @barbsaka @Marisa_C certainly DOS material!! #eltchat
|
|
OUPELTGlobal
|
3:03P.M.
|
RT @gknightbkk: RT @rliberni: Thanks for gr8 chat everyone & Fab mods @Shaunwilden @barbsaka @Marisa_C certainly DOS material!! #eltchat
|
|
timjulian60
|
3:03P.M.
|
RT @mk_elt: #eltchat Thanks 4 the chat and the company! Really enjoyed my first #eltchat and look forward to the transcript later. me too
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:06P.M.
|
RT @teacher_prix: RT @Shaunwilden: As we draw to a close don't forget the 9 BST chat on the use of β€storytelling’ in class, #ELTchat
|
|
teacher_prix
|
3:06P.M.
|
RT @Shaunwilden: As we draw to a close don't forget the 9 BST chat on the use of β€storytelling’ in class, #ELTchat
|
|
Marisa_C
|
3:07P.M.
|
Thank you all for joining this #ELTchat - you make the dullest topics fun to follow
|
|
vickysaumell
|
3:09P.M.
|
RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all for joining this #ELTchat - you make the dullest topics fun to follow > Twas a good one!
|
|
teacher_prix
|
3:11P.M.
|
RT @vickysaumell: RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all for joining this #ELTchat - you make the dullest topics fun to follow > Twas a good one! =)
|
Comments (0)
You don't have permission to comment on this page.