This is the unedited transcript from the #eltchat held on 04.05.2010 at 9 pm on the topic of low literacy adults
| ShellTerrell | 11:03 PM | One thing research has shown is literacy in the L1 impacts the ability to learn in the L2. Most literate will have the easiest time #eltchat |
| TyKendall | 11:03 PM | #ELTCHAT meee i have! |
| harrisonmike | 11:03 PM | So who has ever taught a learner who couldn't read/write in their own language, let alone English? #ELTchat |
| NTAeducation | 11:03 PM | RT @hoprea: For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. If you're an English teacher, join us! :) |
| teflerinha | 11:04 PM | @harrisonmike #ELTchat Quite a few in ESOL classes |
| SueannaN | 11:04 PM | RT @SueAnnan: Having read the prep. stuff. I agree that there is not a lot decent material out there #ELTchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:04 PM | “@harrisonmike: So who has ever taught a learner who couldn't read/write in their own language, let alone English? #ELTchat†me! |
| esolcourses | 11:04 PM | RT @harrisonmike: So who has taught a learner who couldn't read/write in their own language, let alone English? #ELTchat ] yep! been there |
| Marisa_C | 11:04 PM | @ShellTerrell Great start Shelly - #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:04 PM | @seburnt Low level literacy learners in their L1 and how to deal with it #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:04 PM | How do you deal with low literacy adults (even in their L1)? How can we adapt our approach to accommodate their needs? #ELTCHAT |
| cunningcanis | 11:04 PM | RT @hoprea: For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. If you're an English teacher, join us! :) |
| lauraesol | 11:04 PM | What's the topic? #eltchat |
| sedayyildirim | 11:04 PM | and #eltchat starts .. |
| seburnt | 11:04 PM | So what are we talking about today? #eltchat |
| vickyloras | 11:05 PM | @harrisonmike I have,and was really difficult in the beginning #ELTChat |
| bamarcia | 11:05 PM | Hi everyone, great to have a chance to join, or maybe "lurk" mostly. ;) #eltchat |
| hoprea | 11:05 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: How do you deal with low literacy adults (even in their L1)? How can we adapt to accommodate their needs? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:05 PM | @boyledsweetie I have had some students who were barely literate in their own L1 - Farsi #ELTchat |
| DavidWarr | 11:05 PM | @hoprea #ELTchat yep, would be great |
| ShellTerrell | 11:05 PM | Yes I agree! RT @SueAnnan:Having read the prep. stuff. I agree that there is not a lot decent material out there #ELTchat |
| esolcourses | 11:05 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: One thing research has shown is literacy in the L1 impacts the ability to learn in the L2. Most literate will have the easiest time #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:05 PM | I've had very little experience with true literacy students. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:05 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: One thing research has shown is literacy in the L1 impacts the ability to learn in the L2. Most literate will have the easiest time #eltchat |
| NikkiFortova | 11:06 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat I believe creating a safe and encouraging environment is key, without esteem learning won't happen > agreed |
| TyKendall | 11:06 PM | #ELTCHAT i used those magnetic letters u can stick on fridges. very kinaesthetic of me |
| ShellTerrell | 11:06 PM | @boyledsweetie Great to see you here! I completely agree! #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:06 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat I believe creating a safe and encouraging environment is key, without esteem learning won't happen |
| sedayyildirim | 11:06 PM | basicly I did #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:06 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat I believe creating a safe and encouraging environment is key, without esteem learning won't happen |
| ShellTerrell | 11:06 PM | RT @harrisonmike: What are the best ways 2 get thru 2 these sts? Any tips for dealing with low level lit sts? I'd say pictures and visuals are a must #eltchat |
| TyKendall | 11:06 PM | #ELTCHAT i agree i think it was the most challenging thing i've done pedagogically |
| harrisonmike | 11:06 PM | What are the best ways 2 get thru 2 these sts? Any tips for dealing with low level lit sts? I'd say pictures and visuals are a must #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:06 PM | #ELTchat I believe creating a safe and encouraging environment is key, without esteem learning won't happen |
| springrose12 | 11:06 PM | For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. |
| ShellTerrell | 11:07 PM | @harrisonmike I completely agree about the use of visuals & even multimedia. #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:07 PM | #eltchat I have v. little direct experience of low-level literacy SS (except 1 or 2 at summer school) |
| Shaunwilden | 11:07 PM | And if it is in an english speaking environment using imp visuals like exit signs,, bus stops etc #ELTCHAT |
| Fuertesun | 11:07 PM | RT @hoprea: For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. If you're an English teacher, join us! :) |
| esolcourses | 11:07 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Any tips for dealing with low level lit sts? I'd say pictures and visuals are a must #eltchat ] mime/drama games good, too |
| sedayyildirim | 11:07 PM | @lauraesol Dealing with low level literacy learners (especially in their L1) #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:07 PM | #ELTchat sorry no sweets but have a virtual one on me! @ShellTerrell |
| hollysuel | 11:07 PM | @harrisonmike The biggest key is to find out 'how' they learn so we can accommodate their learning style. They might not know... #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:07 PM | I find this very difficult particularly if they show signs of dyslexia #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:07 PM | RT @NikkiFortova: RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat I believe creating a safe and encouraging environment is key, without esteem learning won't happen > agreed |
| seburnt | 11:07 PM | Agreed, @harrisonmike . Pictures are necessary, as is realia. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:08 PM | Motor skils practice may also be important esp if coming from right to left script language #ELTchat |
| esolcourses | 11:08 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: And if it is in an english speaking environment using imp visuals like exit signs,, bus stops etc #ELTCHAT |
| pysproblem81 | 11:08 PM | @esolcourses @harrisonmike definitely much easier in smaller groups...#eltchat agree about pics and visuals |
| Shaunwilden | 11:08 PM | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I have v. little direct experience of low-level literacy SS - Cant say I have much either |
| ShellTerrell | 11:08 PM | RT @hollysuel: @harrisonmike The biggest key is to find out 'how' they learn so we can accommodate their learning style. They might not know... #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:08 PM | RT @springrose12: Non-literate Ss learn best through their oral ability. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:08 PM | RT @hollysuel: @harrisonmike The biggest key is to find out 'how' they learn so we can accommodate their learning style. They might not know... #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:09 PM | What are their motivations for learning English? To study it or to use it? |
| cgoodey | 11:09 PM | So are we talking about complete beginners with low literacy skills? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:09 PM | There is a lot of material for young learners but very little for adults #ELTchat |
| Fuertesun | 11:09 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I have v. little direct experience of low-level literacy SS - Cant say I have much either - same |
| ShellTerrell | 11:09 PM | RT @seburnt: How about use of L1 in their learning? #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:09 PM | RT @pysproblem81: @esolcourses @harrisonmike definitely much easier in smaller groups...#eltchat agree about pics and visuals |
| seburnt | 11:09 PM | How about use of L1 in their learning? #eltchat |
| hoprea | 11:09 PM | Rapport is paramount! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:09 PM | RT @Marisa_C: Motor skils practice may also be important esp if coming from right to left script language #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:09 PM | @ShellTerrell Agree. I do find however that some of these sts hav a lower levl of tech lit too. Not always, bt often in my context #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:09 PM | RT @Marisa_C: Motor skils practice may also be important esp if coming from right to left script language #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:09 PM | RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Yes, basic concept of what reading and writing are for can be missing. |
| ShellTerrell | 11:10 PM | RT @SueannaN: I've got one of each. A literate student with NO English and a Russian who is dyslexic #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:10 PM | @seburnt Yes I've struggled with that. Had some Ss move to next level bcuz 1 student kept speaking in L1 #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:10 PM | I've got one of each. A literate student with NO English and a Russian who is dyslexic #ELTchat |
| lauraesol | 11:10 PM | I think that getting them to use their personal information helps, particularly with reading and writing. #ELTchat |
| esolcourses | 11:10 PM | @pysproblem81 @harrisonmike yep, with larger groups, more difficult. Low level s's need more attention than average 2 progress, IME #ELTChat |
| hoprea | 11:10 PM | @seburnt I guess L1 can be used, but also carefully if they have low literacy level even in L1. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:10 PM | Would be helpful but I know I can't do it - don't know Farsi, Pashto, Turkish, ..RT @seburnt: How abt use of L1 in their learning? #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:10 PM | #ELTchat use techniques for kindergarten and early primary learners and be enthusiastic |
| Marisa_C | 11:10 PM | @cgoodey I don't think the question is only about complete beginners Carol - but they are the most challenging #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:10 PM | @seburnt If it is a monolingual class but many I've seen multi lingual #ELTCHAT |
| pysproblem81 | 11:10 PM | @cgoodey ... it's not just complete beginners #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:10 PM | RT @seburnt: How about use of L1 in their learning? #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:11 PM | #eltchat RT @springrose12: I made one of them tell me a story and I wrote the story down. Then it made sense for him to read it back to me. |
| hoprea | 11:11 PM | A new teacher to join us today for #eltchat. Welcome @virginiamb! Hope you enjoy the discussion. |
| SueannaN | 11:11 PM | @ShellTerrell fortunately there are only 2 in the group #eltchat |
| NikkiFortova | 11:11 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat use techniques for kindergarten and early primary learners and be enthusiastic> cold you give an example? |
| Fuertesun | 11:11 PM | Anyone tried teaching phonics for literacy with adults?#eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:11 PM | @SueAnnan I find that is the hardest dynamic when you have one student with the problem & rest are literate #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:11 PM | #eltchat RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell @Marisa_C Lots of verbal input as well as images/visuals r nec. pair/group discussion b4 writing |
| pysproblem81 | 11:11 PM | @esolcourses @harrisonmike I use lots of simple word games #eltchat (snap, wordsearches etc) |
| boyledsweetie | 11:11 PM | “@lauraesol: I think that getting them to use their personal information helps, particularly with reading and writing. #ELTchat†Agee ;0) |
| vickyloras | 11:11 PM | @seburnt They want it and sometimes it is necessary,but that's what I found most difficult as my German is very low-level #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C | 11:11 PM | @harrisonmike Using L1 difficult in a multilingual class - tended to use google translate - Students laughed a lot #eltchat |
| cgoodey | 11:11 PM | @pysproblem81 @Marisa_C I agree #eltchat |
| vickyloras | 11:12 PM | RT @hoprea : @seburnt I guess L1 can be used, but also carefully if they have low literacy level even in L1. #eltchat |
| DavidWarr | 11:12 PM | @ShellTerrell @springrose12 like Jason's activity, i like that one, student generated text #ELTchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:12 PM | RT @seburnt: There are some suggestions for using L1 to facilitate learning (mono or multilingugal) in this book: http://bit.ly/lkDOy5 #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:12 PM | Backchaining also helps sometimes if they get in a muddle #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:12 PM | RT @Marisa_C: With complete beginners some of my CELTA trainees volunteer to give Ss handwriting & initial reading recognition practice #ELTchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:12 PM | @Marisa_C @cgoodey why not use the same methods are young learners-beginners with appropriate topics? #eltchat |
| naomishema | 11:12 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat use cultural influences I find food and recipes are an international language folk want to share |
| Marisa_C | 11:12 PM | With complete beginners some of my CELTA trainees volunteer to give Ss handwriting & initial reading recognition practice #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:12 PM | RT @seburnt: There are some suggestions for using L1 to facilitate learning (mono or multilingugal) in this book: http://bit.ly/lkDOy5 #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:12 PM | Could be good for ideas RE literacy Ss too. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:12 PM | RT @naomishema: RT @boyledsweetie: “@lauraesol: I think that getting them to use their personal information helps, I AGREE TOO. #ELTchat†|
| boyledsweetie | 11:12 PM | #ELTchat use cultural influences I find food and recipes are an international language folk want to share |
| sandymillin | 11:12 PM | RT @seburnt: How about use of L1 in their learning? #eltchat <depends on if class is monolingual / multiling and Ts skills |
| naomishema | 11:12 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: “@lauraesol: I think that getting them to use their personal information helps, I AGREE TOO. #ELTchat†|
| ShellTerrell | 11:12 PM | @SueAnnan Had a class of 30 teens & one had very low reading skills #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:12 PM | RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell @Marisa_C Lots of verbal input as well as images/visuals r nec. pair/group discussion b4 writing |
| seburnt | 11:12 PM | There are some suggestions for using L1 to facilitate learning (mono or multilingugal) in this book: http://bit.ly/lkDOy5 #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:13 PM | RT @cgoodey why not use the same methods are young learners-beginners with appropriate topics? #eltchat - makes sense to do so |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:13 PM | @vickyloras @hoprea @seburnt and if we don't know it?#eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:13 PM | RT @SimonGreenall: RT @Marisa_C: There is a lot of material for young learners but very little for adults #ELTchat> There are still lots of adult beginners ... |
| Marisa_C | 11:13 PM | @SimonGreenall Indeed! #ELTchat |
| lolonagi | 11:13 PM | yay joining for the second #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:13 PM | @Marisa_C @harrisonmike Yes, but maybe you can use 1st language buddies to explain the instructions. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:13 PM | RT @TyKendall: #ELTCHAT i had to use literacy materials designed for NS children, and this is not ideal > Need adaptation |
| ShellTerrell | 11:13 PM | Really important that Ss w low literacy have teachers that are very patient & willing to work with them & have the heart to #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall | 11:13 PM | RT @Marisa_C: There is a lot of material for young learners but very little for adults #ELTchat> There are still lots of adult beginners ... |
| hoprea | 11:13 PM | I guess using lots of visual/kinesthetic activities might be more helpful than speaking a lot at first. #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:13 PM | @NikkiFortova #eltchat yes use topic work create an interesting subject and learning happens! |
| TyKendall | 11:13 PM | #ELTCHAT i had to use literacy materials designed for NS children, and this is not ideal |
| sandymillin | 11:13 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @SueAnnan I find that is the hardest dynamic when you have one student with the problem & rest are literate #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:13 PM | RT @cgoodey why not use the same methods are young learners-beginners with appropriate topics? #eltchat > I do! |
| harrisonmike | 11:14 PM | RT @seburnt: Learning to type (recognise keys on the keyboard) can be a good way to teach alphabet for adults. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:14 PM | RT @seburnt: Learning to type (recognise keys on the keyboard) can be a good way to teach alphabet for adults. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:14 PM | often CELTA trainees offer 2 support in r ESOL classes. That can b a boon to Ts with sts w low lit as more attention can b given #eltchat |
| naomishema | 11:14 PM | #eltchat Peer teaching is very helpful when we don't know students L1 |
| lolonagi | 11:14 PM | ha, question? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:14 PM | @springrose12 Yes - good idea - we ve tried that and it works well #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:14 PM | Learning to type (recognise keys on the keyboard) can be a good way to teach alphabet for adults. #eltchat |
| vickyloras | 11:14 PM | RT @Marisa_C RT @cgoodey why not use the same methods are young learners-beginners with appropriate topics? #eltchat > I do! >Same here |
| theteacherjames | 11:14 PM | @virginiamb Bem-vindo! Welcome! #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:15 PM | RT @Marisa_C: RT @seburnt: Learning to type (recognise keys on the keyboard) can be a good way to teach alphabet for adults. #eltchat |
| worldteacher | 11:15 PM | Late tonight - sorry! Interested, though, as currently trying to teach an illiterate Italian #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:15 PM | the chat is quiet today #eltchat :D |
| lauraesol | 11:15 PM | RT @pysproblem81: Good websites for materials: www.talent.ac.uk & http://bit.ly/mB84yi #eltchat Good basic skills stuff always useful |
| ShellTerrell | 11:15 PM | Pair work is really great but it has to be purposeful & strategic I find. Must pair with right student #eltchat |
| itsMaiya | 11:15 PM | Adult learners who have low L1 skills only take interest when the material is relevant and can be used in their lives immediately. #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:15 PM | RT @springrose12: @Marisa_C @harrisonmike Yes, but maybe you can use 1st language buddies to explain the instructions. #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:15 PM | Also, making your own font with http://pilothandwriting.com/en/ helps with alphabet recognition and writing for adults. #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:15 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: Really important that Ss w low literacy have teachers that are very patient & willing to work with them & have the heart to #eltchat |
| sedayyildirim | 11:15 PM | @springrose12 @Marisa_C @harrisonmike L1 helps #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:15 PM | @TyKendall Materials for NS children not ideal #ELTCHAT <agreed, so how would/did you adapt it? |
| NikkiFortova | 11:15 PM | @boyledsweetie sounds like a plan :-) and much the same as an ordinary efl class #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:15 PM | Don't put them with another low level if possible #ELTchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:15 PM | Good websites for materials: www.talent.ac.uk & www.skillsworkshop.org #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:15 PM | @seburnt If of course they have a keyboard - I think tho they could use their mobile phone for some of this #eltchat |
| Dru_Step | 11:15 PM | Heard recently about teacher who developed literacy teaching methods for Oz Aboriginal kids which could be used for ESOL. Paddy..? #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:16 PM | RT @harrisonmike: @springrose12 @Marisa_C Not for lang class, but my college is offering L1 lang surgeries for sts to bring up any issues they have #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:16 PM | @springrose12 heheheheheheh #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:16 PM | RT @hoprea: @NoraTouparlaki @vickyloras @seburnt To be honest, I don't think L1 is a must. #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:16 PM | “@seburnt: Also, making your own font with http://t.co/2VFFzyn helps with alphabet recognition and writing for adults. #eltchat†|
| worldteacher | 11:16 PM | I'm concentrating on oral & aural work, but it's really tough - not making much progress - not sure what to try next. #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:16 PM | RT @pysproblem81: Good websites for materials: www.talent.ac.uk & www.skillsworkshop.org #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:16 PM | RT @itsMaiya: Adult learners who have low L1 skills only take interest when the material is relevant and can be used in their lives immediately. #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:16 PM | RT @itsMaiya: Adult learners who have low L1 skills only take interest when the material is relevant and can be used in their lives immediately. #ELTchat |
| springrose12 | 11:16 PM | @lolonagi I don't know about you but we're very loud here:) #eltchat |
| hoprea | 11:16 PM | @NoraTouparlaki @vickyloras @seburnt To be honest, I don't think L1 is a must. #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:16 PM | @Marisa_C True. Assuming schools have a computer lab of some sort. #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:16 PM | #ELTchat ask if they have children find out the ages then bring in appropriate books for the children getting students to read them in class |
| harrisonmike | 11:16 PM | @springrose12 @Marisa_C Not for lang class, but my college is offering L1 lang surgeries for sts to bring up any issues they have #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:16 PM | RT @seburnt: Learning to type (recognise keys on the keyboard) can be a good way to teach alphabet for adults. #eltchat |
| TyKendall | 11:16 PM | @sandymillin #ELTCHAT i dont think i really did, i just selected the materials which were less....childish |
| ShellTerrell | 11:16 PM | @lolonagi Really? It's going super fast for me :-) #Eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:16 PM | @sedayyildirim @Marisa_C @harrisonmike Absolutely..Ss are more creative in L1. #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:16 PM | @SueAnnan Is there a way to share the material? Seems like there's a lot of people looking for it #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:17 PM | RT @vickyloras: I use the alphabet (even big tactile letters), simple readers, picture dictionaries with them,even if adults - helps them a lot #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:17 PM | RT @sandymillin: @SueAnnan Is there a way to share the material? Seems like there's a lot of people looking for it #ELTchat Start a wiki? |
| vickyloras | 11:17 PM | I use the alphabet (even big tactile letters), simple readers, picture dictionaries with them,even if adults - helps them a lot #ELTChat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:17 PM | @itsMaiya Great point! I believe you're right that the language they learn has to be connected to real world use & practicality #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:17 PM | @hoprea @NoraTouparlaki @vickyloras @seburnt In lots of contexts, use of L1 (by the teacher) is impossible! #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:17 PM | @NoraTouparlaki @vickyloras @hoprea You don't have to know L1 to utilise it. Check out that book I tweeted earlier. =) #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:17 PM | @sandymillin yes but it is tailor made for my particular students' situation #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:17 PM | RT @hollysuel: I'm not sure traditional teaching/learning would work with an illiterate adult. What about going to coffee or authentic places... |
| ShellTerrell | 11:17 PM | RT @Brunsell: just read an AR project about this. The only boy in class HATED pair work b/c he didn't like girls. #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:17 PM | I'm not sure traditional teaching/learning would work with an illiterate adult. What about going to coffee or authentic places... |
| laoshi0 | 11:17 PM | @seburnt In teaching adults I've found L1 useful when student is 'stuck' & can't continue in lesson. Also, L1 use builds rapport. #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:18 PM | RT @cgoodey: The language experience approach can be used to produce texts that have meaning for the learner and aren't childish. #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:18 PM | I think some Ss have comfort when they feel that their T have the same native lang #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:18 PM | @pysproblem81 #ELTChat Using visuals to help teach classroom instructions another tactic I find works well: http://bit.ly/kwzql6 |
| davymmck | 11:18 PM | #eltchat b careful with L1 if you don't know what they're saying. I've had a few exp with their ideas on a completely different track |
| cgoodey | 11:18 PM | The language experience approach can be used to produce texts that have some meaning for the learner and aren't childish. #eltchat |
| hoprea | 11:18 PM | @itsMaiya @ShellTerrell Hmm... isn't this something that makes it easier for teachers to motivate all kinds of learners? #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:18 PM | @hoprea @NoraTouparlaki @vickyloras I don't think L1 is a must either, just another resource. #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:18 PM | @DavidWarr Do you have a link to Jason's activity? #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:18 PM | @Shaunwilden can do #ELTchat |
| hollysuel | 11:18 PM | @laoshi0 @seburnt I agree L1 is useful for literate adults and if you can speak it for illiterate... |
| harrisonmike | 11:18 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @sandymillin: @SueAnnan Is there a way to share the material? Seems like there's a lot of people looking for it #ELTchat Start a wiki? |
| Marisa_C | 11:19 PM | @lauraesol we call them clinic :-D "The doctor is in!!!" #ELTchat |
| springrose12 | 11:19 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat always show enthusiasm and that you believe in your students a 'personality' and exuberance goes a long way |
| ShellTerrell | 11:19 PM | RT @pysproblem81: This book has good advice http://bit.ly/mybBf7 #eltchat |
| estelateacher | 11:19 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: Pair work is really great... Must pair with right student > how do u pair them? same level? #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:19 PM | RT @hoprea: RT @cgoodey: The language experience approach can be used to produce texts that have meaning for the learner and aren't childish. #eltchat |
| worldteacher | 11:19 PM | @hollysuel Good idea, but doesn't really work if you're teaching in L1 environment. #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:19 PM | This book has good advice http://bit.ly/mybBf7 #eltchat |
| hoprea | 11:19 PM | RT @cgoodey: The language experience approach can be used to produce texts that have meaning for the learner and aren't childish. #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:19 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTchat always show enthusiasm and that you believe in your students a 'personality' and exuberance goes a long way |
| harrisonmike | 11:19 PM | @seburnt Thanks for clarifying! #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:19 PM | #ELTchat always show enthusiasm and that you believe in your students a 'personality' and exuberance goes a long way |
| ShellTerrell | 11:19 PM | RT @springrose12: I'm not familiar with adult teaching but it's the same for teenagers, too. They learn hip hop/rap first:) #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:19 PM | @harrisonmike how do the surgeries work? #ELTchat |
| vickyloras | 11:19 PM | RT @seburnt Also,making yr own font w/ http://pilothandwriting.com/en/ helps with alphabet recognition&writing for adults #eltchat Love this |
| sandymillin | 11:19 PM | RT @seburnt: making own font with http://bit.ly/lX5nNj helps with alphabet recognition and writing for adults. #eltchat <cool! |
| hollysuel | 11:19 PM | @seburnt @hoprea @NoraTouparlaki @vickyloras agreed--L1 as a resource, not a necessity! |
| harrisonmike | 11:19 PM | RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Southbank Uni course on teaching basic lit to ESOL lrners in July. Book it's based on is good. http://bit.ly/j70PIv |
| seburnt | 11:19 PM | @harrisonmike @hoprea @NoraTouparlaki @vickyloras True, again I'm not suggesting the T use their L1. #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:19 PM | @itsMaiya @ShellTerrell I'm not familiar with adult teaching but it's the same for teenagers, too. They learn hip hop/rap first:) #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:19 PM | @hoprea @itsMaiya Yes but I think its especially important for adults. With YLs I don't know if its as necessary. They like fun! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:19 PM | @harrisonmike I like the idea of a wiki - or we could collect all the resources on a page on the #ELTchat wiki #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:20 PM | RT @pysproblem81: This book has good advice http://bit.ly/mybBf7 #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:20 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @springrose12: Non-literate Ss learn best through their oral ability. #eltchat |
| sedayyildirim | 11:20 PM | @ShellTerrell definitely ! pairwork provides progress for both . #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:20 PM | @lauraesol We asked higher lvl ability sts 2 offer a bit of their time 2 speak to sts in L1, mainly for speaking ab college issues #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:20 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @pysproblem81: This book has good advice http://bit.ly/mybBf7 #eltchat Ta for the link |
| sedayyildirim | 11:20 PM | RT @springrose12: @sedayyildirim @Marisa_C @harrisonmike Absolutely..Ss are more creative in L1. #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:20 PM | RT @hollysuel: What are their motivations for learning English? To study it or to use it? |
| BethCagnol | 11:20 PM | RT @lauraesol: I find this very difficult particularly if they show signs of dyslexia #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:20 PM | @pysproblem81 You are full of great resources today! #Eltchat |
| naomishema | 11:20 PM | #Magpie moments is not on Twitter but has great posts about strategies with these learners http://bit.ly/i4uwqd #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:20 PM | RT @pysproblem81: This book has good advice http://bit.ly/mybBf7 #eltchat Ta for the link |
| bamarcia | 11:20 PM | RT @esolcourses: @pysproblem81 #ELTChat Using visuals to help teach classroom instructions another tactic I find works well: http://bit.ly/kwzql6 |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:20 PM | agree with @hollysuel expose to real life situations, gr8 idea! #ELTChat |
| seburnt | 11:21 PM | Has anyone used these titles, labeled with "literacy"? http://bit.ly/kUXs34 #eltchat |
| itsMaiya | 11:21 PM | @hoprea @ShellTerrell Agreed, but with Adults I feel it is a lot more motivating when they can use what they learn immediately. #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:21 PM | #eltchat RT @pysproblem81: @Shaunwilden likewise this one from LLU+ (not free, I'm afraid) http://bit.ly/mUhiSn |
| boyledsweetie | 11:21 PM | #ELTchat will there be a summary of tonight's chat? |
| pysproblem81 | 11:21 PM | @Shaunwilden likewise this one from LLU+ (not free, I'm afraid) http://bit.ly/mUhiSn #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:21 PM | @hollysuel Have you ever worked with low level of literacy online? How does that work compared to f2f #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:21 PM | RT @Marisa_C: There is a lot of material for young learners but very little for adults #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:21 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @pysproblem81: This book has good advice http://bit.ly/mybBf7 #eltchat Ta for the link |
| abigailappleman | 11:21 PM | “@AgNews: Children’s books written by farmers help tell ag’s story http://t.co/LRgN2eo†#ELTChat |
| lolonagi | 11:22 PM | also, their peers put another pressure on them #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:22 PM | @SueAnnan But we mustn't start by thinking it too challenging! It's just a different need to the super duper advanced sts #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:22 PM | London online has some useful free materials for low level learners http://bit.ly/aGezQF #eltchat |
| hoprea | 11:22 PM | Teaching ABOUT the language won't be as helpful. If students struggle to learn rules in L1, it'll be harder in L2. #eltchat |
| clever_flower | 11:22 PM | #eltchat According to research, MOTIVATION is the most important factor in L2 acquizition. Give them a reason! |
| BethCagnol | 11:22 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @SueAnnan I find that is the hardest dynamic when you have one student with the problem & rest are literate #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:22 PM | @ShellTerrell @hollysuel only children and it requires a translator...never with adults... |
| lolonagi | 11:22 PM | I had this student at the very beginning level... he did not have basic engllish knowldge to start..after awhile he quit the course #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:23 PM | @bethcagnol Yep! But soooo much better if it can be meaningful #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:23 PM | @Clever_Flower But is that motiavtion from us or being motivated themselves? #ELTChat |
| hollysuel | 11:23 PM | @clever_flower Isn't motivation a key factor is just about anything? #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:23 PM | #ELTchat sorry my 6 yr old is having bad dreams ;0) will have to go and lie down beside him will catch up later! |
| ShellTerrell | 11:23 PM | Thanks fhe link! or tRT @springrose12: Check this website promoting adult learning.. http://bit.ly/1wLfmk #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:23 PM | RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell Check this website promoting adult learning.. http://www.niace.org.uk/ #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:23 PM | RT @clever_flower: #eltchat According to research, MOTIVATION is the most important factor in L2 acquizition. Give them a reason! #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:23 PM | #ELTChat Would some of us agree that in this case, drilling really does come I'm handy? |
| ShellTerrell | 11:23 PM | RT @SueannaN: @harrisonmike you are of course right #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:23 PM | @lolonagi lack of motivation? #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:23 PM | @harrisonmike you are of course right #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall | 11:23 PM | RT @SimonGreenall: RT @Marisa_C: About or for? >>It's a real challenge, and I'd luv 2 kno how 2 do it with 2days resources> Sorry #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:23 PM | #eltchat What do you do if you have a SS with 0 English and v. low/0 literacy on course? How do you hook them w/ no L1? |
| ShellTerrell | 11:23 PM | @boyledsweetie Yes! We post all summaries here, http://bit.ly/gV0kFB #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:23 PM | @ShellTerrell Check this website promoting adult learning.. http://www.niace.org.uk/ #eltchat |
| NikkiFortova | 11:23 PM | RT @esolcourses: London online has some useful free materials for low level learners http://bit.ly/aGezQF #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:23 PM | RT @esolcourses: London online has some useful free materials for low level learners http://bit.ly/aGezQF #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:24 PM | RT @itsMaiya: First time joining #ELTchat. Chats moving fast but so informative! #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:24 PM | @itsMaiya welcome :D #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:24 PM | RT @hoprea: Teaching ABOUT the language wont be helpful. If students struggle to learn rules in L1, itll be harder in L2. #eltchat #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall | 11:24 PM | RT @bethcagnol: #ELTChat> I once taught Orchesre de Lyon, really good @ drilling |
| harrisonmike | 11:24 PM | Good to have you here! RT @itsMaiya: First time joining #ELTchat. Chats moving fast but so informative! |
| clever_flower | 11:24 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Would be helpful but I know I can't do it - don't know Farsi, Pashto, Turkish, ..RT @seburnt: How abt use of L1 in their learning? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:24 PM | @itsMaiya Welcome ! #ELTchat |
| itsMaiya | 11:24 PM | First time joining #ELTchat. Chats moving fast but so informative! |
| ShellTerrell | 11:24 PM | RT @cgoodey: Start with language learner will encounter - social sight words, forms etc #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:24 PM | RT @lauraesol: Lots of stuff on here that is good for vocabulary http://bit.ly/izZBzb #ELTchat |
| cgoodey | 11:24 PM | Start with language learner will encounter - social sight words, forms etc #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:24 PM | @boyledsweetie Thanks for joining us! Hope he feels better :-) Maybe next time we see you in the lab coat ;-) #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:24 PM | Lots of stuff on here that is good for vocabulary http://bit.ly/izZBzb #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:24 PM | RT @Yohimar: RT @esolcourses: London online has some useful free materials for low level learners http://bit.ly/aGezQF #eltchat |
| worldteacher | 11:24 PM | RT @hoprea: Teaching ABOUT the language won't be helpful. If students struggle to learn rules in L1, it'll be harder in L2. #eltchat >Agreed |
| lolonagi | 11:24 PM | @NoraTouparlaki not only this... we start even with 101 ss with certain level #eltchat |
| yohimar | 11:24 PM | RT @esolcourses: London online has some useful free materials for low level learners http://bit.ly/aGezQF #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:25 PM | RT @pysproblem81: @bethcagnol drill pictures of vocab, then show words instead of pictures #eltchat drilling always a good thing :-) |
| sandymillin | 11:25 PM | @itsMaiya If you want to make it easier for yourself, try downloading a client like Tweetdeck (a lot of us here use it) #ELTchat |
| TyKendall | 11:25 PM | #ELTCHAT teach letter sounds, or letter names? how does phonics help? so many questions |
| seburnt | 11:25 PM | Actually, I just saw @TESLToronto post a project that concerns Literacy and wants input from instructors: http://bit.ly/l7slGs #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:25 PM | RT @pysproblem81: @bethcagnol definitely - drill pictures of vocab, then show words instead of pictures #eltchat (not only approach) |
| worldteacher | 11:25 PM | RT @bethcagnol: #ELTChat Would some of us agree that in this case, drilling really does come I'm handy? >Yes, it's essential IMHO |
| sandymillin | 11:25 PM | RT @Marisa_C: @itsMaiya Welcome ! #ELTchat |
| hoprea | 11:25 PM | @itsMaiya @ShellTerrell I agree. But adults usually cope better with delayed gratification when we ask them to wait, don't they? #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:25 PM | #ELTChat I also encourage them to bring something to record the lesson. (based on Shelly's tip on using oral tasks). |
| Marisa_C | 11:25 PM | RT @Mbarek: Hi all , Here is a Free Online Spell Checker. Fast and Accurate Results. No Software Required. http://bit.ly/j2KkjJ #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:25 PM | @hollysuel wow! I can't imagine with children. I've never had to quite deal with this w children teaching English only general ed #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:25 PM | @bethcagnol definitely - drill pictures of vocab, then show words instead of pictures #eltchat (not only approach) |
| ShellTerrell | 11:26 PM | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat What do you do if you have a SS with 0 English and v. low/0 literacy on course? How do you hook them w/ no L1? |
| cgoodey | 11:26 PM | @sandymillin pictures, realia, mime #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:26 PM | @LisaTaner Hi, can I invite you to our #eltchat as well? It's about non literate Ss and how to teach English to them. |
| ShellTerrell | 11:26 PM | @lolonagi Now I see the delay! You're right Twitter is acting up #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:26 PM | @ShellTerrell @hollysuel I've got some great screenshots--there is a program through the ministry of education in Korea--very fun! #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:26 PM | What do you reckon to the advice to use #comicsans for learning materials (closest font to handwriting)? #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:26 PM | @itsMaiya It's free online and helps you to organise all of your tweets, including having a column for #ELTchat |
| clever_flower | 11:26 PM | @harrisonmike @seburnt Well, no alphabet system to rely on, which makes it more difficult! I'd move away from L1 #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall | 11:26 PM | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall for i guess #eltchat > It's really hard. Done it 5 or 6 times, but it's the hardest. |
| bamarcia | 11:26 PM | RT @lauraesol: Lots of stuff on here that is good for vocabulary http://bit.ly/izZBzb #ELTchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:26 PM | RT @vickyloras: I use the alphabet (even big tactile letters), simple readers, picture dictionaries with them,even if adults - helps them a lot #ELTChat |
| harrisonmike | 11:26 PM | Mr Bean is very good #eltchat Most sts recognise him and the actions are day-to-day stuff, great stimulus |
| pjgallantry | 11:27 PM | #eltchat we have to be careful not to regard ss with low literacy as being somehow deficient - easy trap to fall into for some |
| ShellTerrell | 11:27 PM | @sandymillin I've worked with this and body language is crucial since it makes up about 86%to90% of language #eltchat |
| cgoodey | 11:27 PM | @harrisonmike @bethcagnol We can drill meaningful, useful language #eltchat |
| naomishema | 11:27 PM | @TyKendall #eltchat these adults NEED to learn the LETTER NAMES because they often have to spell their foreign sounding names to others! |
| seburnt | 11:27 PM | @pysproblem81 I hate Comic Sans with a passion. It's so cliche and childish. There are a billion other handwriting fonts. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:27 PM | RT @cgoodey: @sandymillin pictures, realia, mime #eltchat which are useful in any efl / esl lesson arent they :-) |
| sandymillin | 11:27 PM | RT @pysproblem81: What do you reckon to the advice to use #comicsans for learning materials (closest font to handwriting)? #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:27 PM | Handwriting books are great sometimes to get the mechanics of roman script for those sts that use a different alphabet #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:27 PM | @LisaTaner If you like you can follow the moderators @ShellTerrell and @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| Mbarek | 11:27 PM | Online Spell Check, Grammar and Thesaurus checking http://bit.ly/mBMbqR #eltchat #engchat #Esl #EFL #edtech |
| lolonagi | 11:27 PM | so what ahould I do when it comes to social levels #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:27 PM | RT @TyKendall: #ELTCHAT teach letter sounds, or letter names? how does phonics help? so many questions |
| pjgallantry | 11:27 PM | #eltchat bright visuals, self-produced posters (even really simple stuff) helps low-level literacy ss |
| ShellTerrell | 11:28 PM | RT @lauraesol: RT @harrisonmike: Mr Bean is very good #eltchat Here are some worksheets http://bit.ly/myxfEy |
| lolonagi | 11:28 PM | RT @Marisa_C: I think it's great to be aware that Ss need textrecognition & text manipulation practice but need general knowledge too #ELTchat |
| cgoodey | 11:28 PM | @harrisonmike Yep :-) #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:28 PM | RT @Marisa_C: I think it's great to be aware that Ss need textrecognition & text manipulation practice but need general knowledge too #ELTchat |
| lauraesol | 11:28 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Mr Bean is very good #eltchat Here are some worksheets http://bit.ly/myxfEy |
| ShellTerrell | 11:28 PM | @esolcourses I agree completely that it has to be personalized #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:28 PM | @esolcourses me too #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C | 11:28 PM | I think it's great to be aware that Ss need textrecognition & text manipulation practice but need general knowledge too #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:28 PM | @cgoodey and also language that is drawn from real-life contexts wherever possible #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:28 PM | RT @esolcourses: I find unplugged/personalised approach helps with very low-level learners - blogged about this a while back http://bit.ly/cBEvmX #ELTChat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:28 PM | @springrose12 @LisaTaner Also follow moderator @Shaunwilden #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:28 PM | I find unplugged/personalised approach helps with very low-level learners - blogged about this a while back http://bit.ly/cBEvmX #ELTChat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:29 PM | @seburnt knew someone wouldn't like it ;) which would you recommend? #eltchat |
| pjgallantry | 11:29 PM | #eltchat @ShellTerrell true, body language important, but also ss can *misinterpret* body language of diff culture - leads to misunderstand |
| DavidWarr | 11:29 PM | @ShellTerrell @sandymillin i believe that is a fact that has got taken out of context, re: the words are only 35%, #ELTchat |
| lolonagi | 11:29 PM | RT @cathywint: #eltchat excellence gateway got some interesting resources & research http://t.co/dc92p4g |
| harrisonmike | 11:29 PM | @Shaunwilden Yep agreem www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise has some very useful stuff for literacy #eltchat |
| cathywint | 11:29 PM | #eltchat excellence gateway got some interesting resources & research http://t.co/dc92p4g |
| esolcourses | 11:29 PM | RT @Marisa_C think it's great to be aware that Ss need textrecognition & text manipulation practice but need general knowledge too #ELTchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:29 PM | RT @cgoodey: @harrisonmike @bethcagnol We can drill meaningful, useful language #eltchat |
| bamarcia | 11:29 PM | RT @esolcourses: I find unplugged/personalised approach helps with very low-level learners - blogged about this a while back http://bit.ly/cBEvmX #ELTChat |
| vickyloras | 11:29 PM | RT @esolcourses: I find unplugged/personalised approach helps with very low-level learners - blogged about this a while back http://bit.ly/cBEvmX #ELTChat |
| naomishema | 11:29 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @esolcourses I agree completely that it has to be personalized #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:29 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Handwriting books are great sometimes to get the mechanics. #eltchat the bbcskills wise site has useful activities |
| Marisa_C | 11:29 PM | They lack both knowledge as well as knowledge of different text types #ELTchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:30 PM | #ELTChat can we also keep going on tips for tchrs who have a group where one student is illiterate and the others are fine? |
| hoprea | 11:30 PM | RT @esolcourses: @Marisa_C absolutely... students need to be able to pick up language they need to get by in daily life quickly #ELTChat |
| SueannaN | 11:30 PM | RT @naomishema: @esolcourses General knowledge or rather lack of it is what makes progress in reading comp. SO difficult #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:30 PM | RT @naomishema: @esolcourses General knowledge or rather lack of it is what makes progress in reading comp. SO difficult #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:30 PM | @Marisa_C absolutely... students need to be able to pick up language they need to get by in daily life quickly #ELTChat |
| clever_flower | 11:30 PM | #eltchat Intrinsic motivation is more effective than extrinsic. So I'd negotiate it 2bring it 2 the surface and capitalize on it! |
| naomishema | 11:30 PM | @esolcourses General knowledge or rather lack of it is what makes progress in reading comp. SO difficult #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:31 PM | @SueAnnan @naomishema agree... though IMO, better to teach speaking/listening first, as it helps with pronunciation #ELTChat |
| naomishema | 11:31 PM | #eltchat we tend to think cognates are useful for this population but some don't know what a PICNIC is, for example |
| ShellTerrell | 11:31 PM | @bethcagnol I found stations worked well. When they broke into stations I could do individualized work! #eltchat |
| hollysuel | 11:31 PM | @clever_flower totally agree! the best students we have are all intrinsically motivated! |
| theteacherjames | 11:31 PM | RT @esolcourses: I find unplugged/personalised approach helps with very low-level learners http://bit.ly/cBEvmX #ELTChat |
| lauraesol | 11:31 PM | @naomishema Try giving them the reading books for different levels to read through. The books recycle vocabulary #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:31 PM | I think it is key to not swamp these learners (or any learners) with too much paperwork - whether worksheets or admin, whatever #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:31 PM | RT @naomishema: @esolcourses General knowledge or rather lack of it is what makes progress in reading comp. SO difficult #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:31 PM | @teflerinha True... most information we need to read is printed not written, I reckon #eltchat |
| cunningcanis | 11:31 PM | @itsMaiya agreed, I tend to lurk and learn....about 5 mins behind though #ELTchat |
| lolonagi | 11:31 PM | @Clever_Flower I agree on intrinsic motivation #eltchat, but environment has supper power |
| sandymillin | 11:31 PM | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTChat can we also keep going on tips for tchrs who have a group where one student is illiterate and the others are fine? |
| ShellTerrell | 11:31 PM | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTChat can we also keep going on tips for tchrs who have a group where one student is illiterate and the others are fine? |
| ShellTerrell | 11:32 PM | @bethcagnol Yikes! Ok then not so good LOL #Eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:32 PM | @pysproblem81 Suzie's hand, Honey script, Black jack... there are a million. =) Even your own! #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:32 PM | @pjgallantry I research the body language ahead of time if I know its a complete beginner & also learn a few words in their lang #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:32 PM | @ShellTerrell That's a good one, but what about classes of 3-4 ppl? #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:32 PM | RT @lauraesol: Try giving them the reading books for different levels...or things they might need to read like info leaflets #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:32 PM | RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat ss with low literacy levels also cannot *orient* themselves through text, so e.g. … (cont) http://deck.ly/~U6tkL |
| cathywint | 11:32 PM | #eltchat spiegal and Sunderland and the ESOL low literacy gurus. This book is fabulous http://t.co/HP0lmK4 |
| clever_flower | 11:32 PM | RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat we have to be careful not to regard ss with low literacy as being somehow deficient - easy trap to fall into for some |
| pysproblem81 | 11:32 PM | Am trying to find a good link explaining 'language experience model' good, just a bit tricky in groups http://bit.ly/kzI5r2 #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall | 11:32 PM | #ELTchat Reading handwriting? Have been learning Chinese, had forgotten how disempowered I am as a beginner. Nothing taken for granted. |
| pjgallantry | 11:32 PM | #eltchat ss with low literacy levels also cannot *orient* themselves through text, so e.g. a letter looks the same as some instructions |
| SueannaN | 11:32 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @bethcagnol I found stations worked well. When they broke into stations I could do individualized work! #eltchat ? |
| ShellTerrell | 11:32 PM | RT @naomishema: #eltchat we tend to think cognates are useful for this population but some don't know what a PICNIC is, for example |
| harrisonmike | 11:32 PM | RT @lauraesol: @naomishema Try giving them the reading books for different levels to read through. The books recycle vocabulary #ELTchat |
| DavidWarr | 11:32 PM | @bethcagnol one of the most difficult situations... #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:33 PM | RT @Marisa_C: RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat ss with low literacy levels also cannot *orient* themselves through te… (cont) http://deck.ly/~6JZU5 |
| ShellTerrell | 11:33 PM | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTChat Should we speak to the student to let them know we notice the problem? Or not? |
| sandymillin | 11:33 PM | @bethcagnol At summer school I made the same vocab worksheet using ppt but one group copied, one traced (e.gs in next tweet) #ELTChat |
| hoprea | 11:33 PM | How low is this low level we're talking about? #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:33 PM | RT @lolonagi: so individuality in learning is the solution #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:33 PM | #ELTChat Should we speak to the student to let them know we notice the problem? Or not? |
| hollysuel | 11:33 PM | RT @lolonagi: so individuality in learning is the solution #eltchat |
| cgoodey | 11:33 PM | @pysproblem81 @seburnt There has been some research showing comic sans as being good in some contexts (can't remember at the mo) #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:33 PM | so individuality in learning is the solution #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:33 PM | @SimonGreenall Beginners need to be a lot more confident with knowing lexical meaning - guessing strats next to impossible #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:33 PM | @bethcagnol pfffftttt (my lip fart) #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:33 PM | RT @seburnt: @pysproblem81 Suzie's hand, Honey script, Black jack... there are a million. =) Even your own! #eltchat |
| teflerinha | 11:33 PM | @harrisonmike #eltchat While talking about too much paperwork... anyone going to mention ILPs?! |
| lolonagi | 11:34 PM | @esolcourses really did u find speaking arabic easy #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:34 PM | Jumping in late #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:34 PM | RT @toulasklavou: take into account also their learning style,in order to adapt mats accordingly #ELTCHAT |
| ShellTerrell | 11:34 PM | @bethcagnol If its a child to teen then the parent but if its an adult then yes I think we wait till alone & see if they are aware #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:34 PM | RT @claganach: @ShellTerrell @springrose12 The Week in Rap: weekly current affairs with rap track matched to video http://t.co/SbPCybK #eltchat #literacy |
| toulasklavou | 11:34 PM | take into account also their learning style,in order to adapt mats accordingly #ELTCHAT |
| harrisonmike | 11:34 PM | @teflerinha Useless for such learners. There, I said it! #eltchat #individuallearningplans, as they are in FE, are not right for these sts |
| Shaunwilden | 11:34 PM | @sandymillin opps sorry sandy i did a long tweet, dont tell me off :-) #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:34 PM | @ShellTerrell LoL! Ppptt! #ELTChat lipfart |
| lolonagi | 11:34 PM | @itsMaiya agree #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:34 PM | @SimonGreenall good point! had the same experience when I tried to learn Arabic. Found speaking & listening much easier #ELTchat |
| SimonGreenall | 11:34 PM | RT @Marisa_C: Beginners need to be a lot more confident with knowing lexical meaning - guessing strats next to impossible #ELTchat> Correct |
| EwelinaGonera | 11:34 PM | RT @Mbarek: Online Spell Check, Grammar and Thesaurus checking http://bit.ly/mBMbqR #eltchat #engchat #Esl #EFL #edtech |
| Marisa_C | 11:34 PM | @lolonagi Individual tutoring is but most of these learners cannot pay that type of lesson - end up in large classes #eltchat |
| itsMaiya | 11:34 PM | Wht are ur opinions on allowing students to speak L1 in the classroom or with a partner? #ELTchat |
| sandymillin | 11:35 PM | @teflerinha What's an ILP? #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:35 PM | @sandymillin Traced, as in traced over the slides you made?(sorry not sure I understand) #ELTChat |
| harrisonmike | 11:35 PM | #eltchat What abt underlying problems that cause low literacy? Some of these sts have seen wars and death & have no schooling, others... 1/2 |
| esolcourses | 11:35 PM | @harrisonmike @teflerinha say the same on a fairly regular basis myself, even though it doesn't always go down well :-D #ELTChat |
| lolonagi | 11:35 PM | @rliberni welcome #eltchat... London time is no for me #eltchat :S |
| teflerinha | 11:35 PM | @harrisonmike #eltchat You devil! I agree. |
| Shaunwilden | 11:35 PM | @rliberni Evening Berni :-) #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:35 PM | Thanks! RT @claganach: The Week in Rap: weekly current affairs with rap track matched to video http://theweekinrap.com/ #eltchat #literacy |
| sandymillin | 11:35 PM | http://slidesha.re/lTWuLP http://slidesha.re/jUV1Ys #eltchat Links to diff versions of same vocb sheet #eltchat |Prob was that still v. slow |
| Marisa_C | 11:35 PM | To recap: Consolidate language orally, then present written forms and do various activities with a literacy focus #ELTchat |
| pjgallantry | 11:35 PM | #eltchat at our college we have Afghan students with decent basic spoken ability but absolutely ZERO literacy in L1 or L2 |
| SimonGreenall | 11:35 PM | RT @esolcourses:had the same experience when I tried to learn Arabic. #ELTchat> yes non roman script v dificult |
| Shaunwilden | 11:35 PM | RT @toulasklavou: take into account also their learning style and adapt mats accordingly #ELTCHAT Thats true of any teaching isn't it? |
| hoprea | 11:35 PM | RT @SimonGreenall: RT @Marisa_C: Beginners need to be a lot more confident with knowing lexical meaning - guessing strats next to impossible #ELTchat> Correct |
| hollysuel | 11:35 PM | RT @toulasklavou: take into account also their learning style,in order to adapt mats accordingly #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:35 PM | @claganach @ShellTerrell Liked it a lot:) #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:35 PM | RT @toulasklavou: take into account also their learning style,in order to adapt mats accordingly #ELTCHAT |
| BethCagnol | 11:36 PM | @esolcourses @simongreenall I'm finding the same thing with Polish. Learning through sound. Love it! #ELTChat |
| vickyloras | 11:36 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @bethcagnol If its a child to teen then the parent but if its an adult then yes I think we wait till alone & see if they are aware #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:36 PM | @harrisonmike Agree, they don't often understand what they are about. #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:36 PM | #eltchat ...others may suffer from conditions such as dyslexia 2/2 |
| pjgallantry | 11:36 PM | #eltchat @itsMaiya chat in L1 ok, If it's on task chat! |
| rliberni | 11:36 PM | RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat What abt underlying problems that cause low literacy? Some of these sts have seen wars and death & have no schooling, others... 1/2 |
| sandymillin | 11:36 PM | @bethcagnol See the next tweet...there's a link to the sheets (no space!) #ELTChat |
| rliberni | 11:36 PM | @lolonagi @Shaunwilden hi sorry I'm late will catch up #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:37 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: When having different literacy levels important 2 allow Ss to access visuals, additional help online. Maybe thru a blog or wiki? #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:37 PM | RT @Marisa_C: It helps if u can pair up a right to left writer with a left to right one in same class #ELTchat - one can mentor the other |
| ShellTerrell | 11:37 PM | When having different literacy levels important 2 allow Ss to access visuals, additional help online. Maybe thru a blog or wiki? #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:37 PM | @ShellTerrell Interesting. For my classes it's adults. So always wonder if I should say something to them. #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:37 PM | RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat ILP=Individual learning plan, aka more bloody paperwork ;) Lol |
| Marisa_C | 11:37 PM | It helps if u can pair up a right to left writer with a left to right one in same class #ELTchat - one can mentor the other |
| rliberni | 11:37 PM | RT @hollysuel: @harrisonmike some have learning disabilities i.e. dyslexia that have been undiagnosed... #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:37 PM | @bethcagnol @SimonGreenall @lolonagi not so much a case of easy; more like less difficult. I tend to learn languages phonetically #ELTChat |
| pjgallantry | 11:37 PM | #eltchat ILP=Individual learning plan, aka more bloody paperwork ;) |
| hollysuel | 11:37 PM | @harrisonmike some have learning disabilities i.e. dyslexia that have been undiagnosed... #eltchat |
| Mbarek | 11:37 PM | Top 10 Free Online Spell Checkers http://bit.ly/jUA5sK #engchat #esl #eltchat #efl #spelling #writing |
| lauraesol | 11:38 PM | @rliberni You'll be lucky #ELTchat I can't keep up |
| Marisa_C | 11:38 PM | But trouble with so-called 'starter' coursebooks is their so very western culture orientation #ELTchat |
| sandymillin | 11:38 PM | @bethcagnol It depends on if you CAN say anything to them - sometimes it's very difficult for them to understand you #ELTChat |
| harrisonmike | 11:38 PM | RT @esolcourses: RT @pysproblem81 @pjgallantry The other issue is how do you do an #ilp with a complete beginner you share no common language with #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:38 PM | @bethcagnol I think private convos work well because then you can suggest activities, websites, for them to do addit'l work #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:38 PM | #ELTChat nightmares at bay. Music especially global tunes are great to encourage confidence, performances by tutor always go down well ;0) |
| esolcourses | 11:38 PM | RT @pysproblem81 @pjgallantry The other issue is how do you do an #ilp with a complete beginner you share no common language with #eltchat |
| teflerinha | 11:38 PM | @sandymillin@harrisonmike #eltchat an individual learning plan. Mandatory for ESOL learners (in UK-maybe not Scotland) |
| lauraesol | 11:38 PM | @sandymillin Individual learning plan #ELTchat |
| SimonGreenall | 11:38 PM | RT @bethcagnol: @esolcourses @simongreenall Love it! #ELTChat. But how do you consolidate what you've heard? You need some writing? |
| pysproblem81 | 11:38 PM | @pjgallantry The other issue is how do you do an #ilp with a complete beginner that you share no common language with #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:38 PM | I do not know if this relevant, but I had a Ss who wanted to learn english toprove to her husband her equality #eltchat :D |
| harrisonmike | 11:38 PM | Some won't admit to them either RT @hollysuel: @harrisonmike some hv learning disabilities i.e. dyslexia that hv bin undiagnosed... #eltchat |
| teflerinha | 11:39 PM | @bethcagnol @esolcourses @simongreenall At least Polish is phonetic! #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:39 PM | “@teflerinha: @sandymillin@harrisonmike #eltchat an individual learning plan. Mandatory for ESOL learners < Scotland too> |
| Marisa_C | 11:39 PM | .... and assumptions #eltchat - like what is a picnic, a celebrity interview, a businessman's schedule etc #ELTchat |
| lauraesol | 11:39 PM | @hollysuel I have that problem too, I am sure #ELTchat |
| rliberni | 11:39 PM | @lauraesol you're right! struggling here #eltchat |
| naomishema | 11:39 PM | #eltchat when lss explain to other ss they REALLY understand the material. & sometimes they understand where their friend is stuck better! |
| hollysuel | 11:39 PM | @pysproblem81 @pjgallantry it'll take a village! :) |
| ShellTerrell | 11:39 PM | @bethcagnol Although it's a difficult convo to have #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:39 PM | #ELTChat if I discuss their learning difficulties privately, I'd find it very difficult to bring it up. Anyone have direct experience? |
| teflerinha | 11:40 PM | RT @Marisa_C: But trouble with so-called 'starter' coursebooks is their so very western culture orientation #ELTchat |
| lolonagi | 11:40 PM | @ShellTerrell they need safe environment #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:40 PM | And they have mobile phones which I think are underexploited in class #ELtchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:40 PM | RT @lauraesol: Are there any ESOL dyslexia specialists about, who can assess these learners, or is this problem ignored? #ELTchat |
| lauraesol | 11:40 PM | Are there any ESOL dyslexia specialists about, who can assess these learners, or is this problem ignored? #ELTchat |
| sedayyildirim | 11:40 PM | hi @rliberni , totally agree with @lauraesol :) #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:40 PM | @bethcagnol I usually start with a question. Do you find the reading difficult? Can you walk me thru how you do it? #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:40 PM | @ShellTerrell @Marisa_C Non-literate Ss learn grammar and phonics through context.Thy need many sentence maker sheets and modelling #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:40 PM | @ShellTerrell sounds nice, most of them are familiar with the basics online #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:40 PM | Exactly! Wholy innappropriate! RT @Marisa_C: But trouble w/ so-called 'starter' crsebooks is their so v western culture orientation #ELTchat |
| SueannaN | 11:40 PM | RT @Marisa_C: But trouble with so-called 'starter' coursebooks is their so very western culture orientation #ELTchat I agree completely |
| pjgallantry | 11:41 PM | #eltchat how can dyslexia be diagnosed if the ss cant even write in their own language?? |
| teflerinha | 11:41 PM | @esolcourses @pysproblem81 @pjgallantry Absolutely! Just didn't have enough characters for the full story (horror) #eltchat |
| cunningcanis | 11:41 PM | @teflerinha #eltchat an individual learning plan. Mandatory for ESOL learners (in UK-maybe not Scotland)" Scotland too. |
| ShellTerrell | 11:41 PM | @bethcagnol If I can see how they approach the reading then I can see what the problem might be & see specific signs of struggle #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:41 PM | @bethcagnol I have and if you suspect a problem, it is best to ask them with someone who knows a bit more English #ELTchat |
| rliberni | 11:41 PM | RT @SueannaN: @lauraesol we had a workshop with a specialist recently. It was illuminating #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames | 11:41 PM | RT @Marisa_C: But trouble with so-called 'starter' coursebooks is their so very western culture orientation #ELTchat |
| vickyloras | 11:41 PM | RT @Marisa_C: .... and assumptions #eltchat - like what is a picnic, a celebrity interview, a businessman's schedule etc #ELTchat |
| rliberni | 11:41 PM | RT @Marisa_C: And they have mobile phones which I think are underexploited in class #ELtchat Good point! |
| ShellTerrell | 11:41 PM | RT @Marisa_C: And they have mobile phones which I think are underexploited in class #ELtchat |
| Mbarek | 11:41 PM | Thanks 4 RT @EwelinaGonera @MoodleMcKean @Yohimar @Marisa_C #eltchat #engchat #Esl #EFL #edtech #spellcheck #edtech #edchat #elearning |
| SueannaN | 11:41 PM | @lauraesol we had a workshop with a specialist recently. It was illuminating #ELTchat |
| esolcourses | 11:41 PM | @pysproblem81 @pjgallantry My response to that one is "you don't", tbh! These days, I postpone them till s's have enough lang #EltChat |
| lauraesol | 11:42 PM | @Marisa_C the first thing I have to say is "turn them off" #ELTchat |
| SueannaN | 11:42 PM | @rliberni Yes I've had that experience too #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:42 PM | @pysproblem81 @lauraesol Agree it's difficult but with online networks we're bound to find specialist in the L1 to help? #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:42 PM | @rliberni wow what did u do #eltchat |
| esolcourses | 11:42 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan @lauraesol I saw a workshop on it a bit ago, learnt loads ] #eltchat same here... will try & dig bmks out |
| clever_flower | 11:42 PM | #eltchat A Real-time Collaborative Writing tool. useful 4 working on joint writing projects. Used it with Skype 2finish work! |
| rliberni | 11:42 PM | 1 of my biggest challenges ever (poss not relevant here) was having a blind std in the class #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:42 PM | @lauraesol I've always heard it is too hard to identify dyslexia in 2nd lang speakers... but there must be some knowledge of it.... #eltchat |
| seburnt | 11:42 PM | @harrisonmike @Marisa_C Have you seen the Just Right Middle Eastern editions? Took away bikinis as far as i could tell. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:42 PM | @SueAnnan @lauraesol I saw a workshop on it a bit ago, learnt loads, have the notes somewhere will dig out #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:43 PM | RT @Marisa_C: @lauraesol a pity - because they can be used for a variety of texting activities #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:43 PM | RT @rliberni: 1 of my biggest challenges ever (poss not relevant here) was having a blind std in the class #eltchat Me too but he was B2 |
| Marisa_C | 11:43 PM | @lauraesol a pity - because they can be used for a variety of texting activities #ELTchat |
| rliberni | 11:43 PM | @SueAnnan @lolonagi you really have to think everything through very carefully so as to have ever bit accessible #eltchat |
| naomishema | 11:43 PM | @rliberni #eltchat blind can communicate more easily than deaf students who tend to be language impaired even if their speech is o.k |
| boyledsweetie | 11:43 PM | “@lauraesol: @Marisa_C the first thing I have to say is "turn them off" #ELTchat†why????? |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:43 PM | @Marisa_C I'd definitely usethe mobile!#eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:43 PM | @harrisonmike @lauraesol I think It should be done in L1 by a translator/specialist that is hard to find #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:43 PM | @seburnt Nope! Lol, does #Harmerj know about this! ;o) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:43 PM | @seburnt haven't - but replacing churces with mosques & cuting out bikinis does't solve the problems #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:44 PM | “@ShellTerrell: @Marisa_C @lauraesol @rliberni Texting often much easier for the student to understand & could be a bridge #eltchat†agree! |
| harrisonmike | 11:44 PM | @pjgallantry Naomi @naomishema works with hard of hearing students too #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:44 PM | Gr8 pt! RT @cathywint: also need to consider digital literacy. May now have experience of using PCs so have ICT skills needs too #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:44 PM | and i thought whenI had a low literacry St was a challenge #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:44 PM | @Shaunwilden mine was advanced which helped- one of the most well-dressed people I've ever met! #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:44 PM | @rliberni and be careful of your language. The 'I see' and such like #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:44 PM | @Marisa_C @lauraesol @rliberni Texting often much easier for the student to understand & could be a bridge #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:44 PM | @springrose12 @lauraesol Agree. And expensive #eltchat |
| pjgallantry | 11:44 PM | #eltchat @rliberni we've had profoundly deaf learners as well as blind - end up in whole new language teaching territory |
| Mbarek | 11:44 PM | Hi all #eltchat ters |
| ShellTerrell | 11:45 PM | RT @clever_flower: #eltchat I've always been refusing 2let ss speak L1 outside classroom, but now I think it was a mistake! L2 shud not replace L1 4 ID reasons |
| clever_flower | 11:45 PM | #eltchat I've always been refusing 2let ss speak L1 outside classroom, but now I think it was a mistake! L2 shud not replace L1 4 ID reasons |
| seburnt | 11:45 PM | @harrisonmike @Marisa_C I wondered about that. #eltchat |
| DavidWarr | 11:45 PM | @Clever_Flower #ELTchat thanx for the link to typewithme |
| rliberni | 11:45 PM | @SueAnnan yes, it really makes you think and keep on your toes the other stds were great too with this #eltchat |
| pjgallantry | 11:45 PM | #eltchat anyone tried the British Council Learning English materials for mobiles? |
| sandymillin | 11:46 PM | #eltchat You could also get SS using www.quizlet.com for simple flashcards with pictures. And they can make their own too |
| rliberni | 11:46 PM | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat If you have computer access could get SS to create simple vocab books using Bookr http://bit.ly/mB3Urn then use with later classes |
| springrose12 | 11:46 PM | @ShellTerrell @cathywint Majority of my non-literate Ss learn the computers easier than the language, they use them all the time #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:46 PM | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat If you have computer access could get SS to create simple vocab books using Bookr http://bit.ly/mB3Urn then use with later classes |
| Shaunwilden | 11:46 PM | @rliberni Mine wasnt well dressed, but was motivated and was a g8 sts - I just had to remember to speak when writing on the board #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:46 PM | @Clever_Flower I agree! Plus knowledge & advancement in L1 helps advancement in L2 #eltchat |
| sandymillin | 11:46 PM | #eltchat If you have computer access could get SS to create simple vocab books using Bookr http://bit.ly/mB3Urn then use with later classes |
| boyledsweetie | 11:46 PM | #ELTChat after lessons send students a text telling them how great they were. Children also love an answering machine message just for them |
| rliberni | 11:46 PM | @pjgallantry true and it's all something we should be prepared for in our training I think #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:47 PM | RT @teflerinha: @sandymillin #eltchat Good idea- a tech version of the Language Experience Approach! |
| SueannaN | 11:47 PM | @bethcagnol Chapeau! #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:47 PM | @bethcagnol Gosh i think that trumps the blind one #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:47 PM | so... individaulaity in learning... for Ss if they can afford #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:47 PM | @Shaunwilden @rliberni I taught one class to a deaf student. Very very interesting. #ELTChat |
| teflerinha | 11:47 PM | @sandymillin #eltchat Good idea- a tech version of the Language Experience Approach! |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:47 PM | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat You could also get SS using www.quizlet.com for simple flashcards with pictures. And they can make their own too |
| lolonagi | 11:47 PM | ah I remembred I have this Ss who in the access program, he is totally different than other Ss #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:47 PM | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat You could also get SS using www.quizlet.com for simple flashcards with pictures. And they can make their own too |
| ShellTerrell | 11:47 PM | RT @sandymillin: #eltchat You could also get SS using www.quizlet.com for simple flashcards with pictures. And they can make their own too |
| seburnt | 11:48 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Anna has got some links here http://bit.ly/jIMp7e links to SQA materials look promising #lowlevelliteracy #eltchat #magpiemoments |
| pjgallantry | 11:48 PM | #eltchat BC mobile apps site http://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/en/mobile-learning |
| naomishema | 11:48 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Anna has got some links here http://bit.ly/jIMp7e links to SQA materials ARE GREAT #eltchat #magpiemoments |
| Marisa_C | 11:48 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Anna has got some links here http://bit.ly/jIMp7e links to SQA materials look promising #ELTchat |
| clever_flower | 11:48 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @Clever_Flower I agree! Plus knowledge & advancement in L1 helps advancement in L2 #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:48 PM | @ShellTerrell Have a look at this website as well. They are Ethnic Minority Achievement Service http://islingtonemas.camb-ed.com/ #eltchat |
| lauraesol | 11:48 PM | RT @lauraesol: @boyledsweetie texting does help and ecourages them to spell through communicating in this way. oops forgot #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:48 PM | @sandymillin I absolutely love Quizlet! I embed it in my wiki for the adults http://bit.ly/hiyZrm #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:48 PM | more texts, pic, and related reading #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:48 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Anna has got some links here http://bit.ly/jIMp7e links to SQA materials look promising #lowlevelliteracy #eltchat #magpiemoments |
| harrisonmike | 11:48 PM | Anna has got some links here http://bit.ly/jIMp7e links to SQA materials look promising #lowlevelliteracy #eltchat #magpiemoments |
| Marisa_C | 11:48 PM | @Achievers_WC Nice idea but tells of more affluent Ss - with own iPods #ELTchat - may be more common in future though |
| harrisonmike | 11:49 PM | I think a big thing to do with such learners is foster a real community spirit. I'm always amazed at our ESOL parties at college #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:49 PM | @hollysuel #eltchat Very tricky for an ELT teacher to diagnose dyselexia etc would not recommend this - send to specialist |
| BethCagnol | 11:49 PM | @Shaunwilden The lips are a powerful communication tool. #ELTChat |
| SueannaN | 11:49 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: @rliberni Defintely #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:49 PM | @pjgallantry mobile app work in Iphone only no Samsong #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:49 PM | @rliberni Defintely #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:49 PM | RT @Marisa_C: RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat BC mobile apps site http://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/en/mobile-learning |
| rliberni | 11:49 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @springrose12: Have a look at this website. They are Ethnic Minority Achievement Service http://islingtonemas.camb-ed.com/ #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:49 PM | RT @harrisonmike: Anna has got some links here http://bit.ly/jIMp7e links to SQA materials look promising #lowlevelliteracy #eltchat #magpiemoments |
| rliberni | 11:49 PM | @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @pjgallantry @bethcagnol another #eltchat topic maybe? |
| Marisa_C | 11:49 PM | RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat BC mobile apps site http://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/en/mobile-learning |
| ShellTerrell | 11:49 PM | RT @springrose12: Have a look at this website. They are Ethnic Minority Achievement Service http://islingtonemas.camb-ed.com/ #eltchat |
| fionamau | 11:50 PM | RT @Marisa_C: @hollysuel #eltchat Very tricky for an ELT teacher to diagnose dyselexia etc would not recommend this - send to specialist |
| bamarcia | 11:50 PM | RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat BC mobile apps site http://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/en/mobile-learning |
| cunningcanis | 11:50 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @springrose12: Have a look at this website. They are Ethnic Minority Achievement Service http://islingtonemas.camb-ed.com/ #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:50 PM | RT @pysproblem81: @sandymillin Also you can create similar activites using BDC Content Workshop e-templates http://bit.ly/9wIJAs #eltchat |
| worldteacher | 11:50 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: Loads of links and further reading from tonights #eltchat which is good cos I think i need it :-) Me too!! |
| ShellTerrell | 11:50 PM | @Mbarek low literacy in adults & how to help #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:50 PM | Same here! And solidarity! RT @Shaunwilden: Loads of links & further reading from tonights #eltchat which is good cos I think i need it :-) |
| pysproblem81 | 11:50 PM | @sandymillin Also you can create similar activites using BDC Content Workshop e-templates http://bit.ly/9wIJAs #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:50 PM | @harrisonmike So would it be possible to create an online community too for them with resources etc to help? #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:50 PM | RT @Marisa_C: @hollysuel #eltchat Very tricky for an ELT teacher to diagnose dyselexia etc would not recommend this - send to specialist |
| clever_flower | 11:50 PM | @ShellTerrell #eltchat That's why I have issues with using L2 for subject matter instruction in cotexts where everyone understands L1. |
| Mbarek | 11:50 PM | trying to catch up but couldn't figure out the topic of tonight's #eltchat :(( |
| Shaunwilden | 11:50 PM | Loads of links and further reading from tonights #eltchat which is good cos I think i need it :-) |
| ShellTerrell | 11:50 PM | RT @harrisonmike: I think a big thing to do with such learners is foster a real community spirit. I'm always amazed at our ESOL parties at college #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:51 PM | @harrisonmike ha ha I've heard this one as a joke! #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:51 PM | RT @BethCagnol: @Shaunwilden I also think I'm going to catch up on general education reading about literacy issues. #ELTCHAT |
| TyKendall | 11:51 PM | #ELTCHAT im ashamed to say i have allowed myself to be distracted and not followed, sorry folks, next week for sure! |
| rliberni | 11:51 PM | RT @cathywint: @rliberni Access for ESOL looks at disability and ESOL #eltchat thanks :-) |
| springrose12 | 11:51 PM | RT @LisaTaner: Thanks Tuba! RT @springrose12 Our Ethnic Minority Achievement Service http://islingtonemas.camb-ed.com/ #eltchat- (proud to work for them:-) |
| Marisa_C | 11:51 PM | Although I don't do CLIL - you do often find you are teacing content too #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:51 PM | RT @BethCagnol: @Shaunwilden I also think I'm going to catch up on general education reading about literacy issues. #ELTCHAT |
| pjgallantry | 11:51 PM | #eltchat @lolonagi no - apps for android also -have it on my xperia x10! |
| harrisonmike | 11:51 PM | @Marisa_C If they have the tech skills... Ive still come across sts who try 2 move the mouse cursor by lifting the mouse in the air #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:51 PM | @Shaunwilden I also think I'm going to catch up on general education reading about literacy issues. #ELTCHAT |
| LisaTaner | 11:51 PM | Thanks Tuba! RT @springrose12 Our Ethnic Minority Achievement Service http://islingtonemas.camb-ed.com/ #eltchat- (proud to work for them:-) |
| ShellTerrell | 11:51 PM | RT @Marisa_C: @hollysuel #eltchat Very tricky for an ELT teacher to diagnose dyselexia etc would not recommend this - send to specialist |
| Mbarek | 11:51 PM | @ShellTerrell thanks a lot :) #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:52 PM | @TyKendall Excuses excuses. ;-) #ELTCHAT |
| rliberni | 11:52 PM | RT @lauraesol: RT @ShellTerrell: @sandymillin I absolutely love Quizlet! I embed it in my wiki for the adults http://bit.ly/hiyZrm #eltchat interesting |
| fionamau | 11:52 PM | RT @TyKendall: #ELTCHAT im ashamed to say i have allowed myself to be distracted and not followed, sorry folks, next week for sure!>likewise |
| ShellTerrell | 11:52 PM | RT @boyledsweetie: #ELTChat encourage students t bring in family pictures, everybody's favourite topic! Own baby photos are good ;0) |
| lauraesol | 11:52 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @sandymillin I absolutely love Quizlet! I embed it in my wiki for the adults http://bit.ly/hiyZrm #eltchat interesting |
| boyledsweetie | 11:52 PM | #ELTChat encourage students t bring in family pictures, everybody's favourite topic! Own baby photos are good ;0) |
| Shaunwilden | 11:52 PM | @TyKendall tut tut, go and tweet 100 times, I must pay more attention to #eltchat ;-) |
| esolcourses | 11:52 PM | RT @pysproblem81 Slightly off-topic but for anyone interested in issues around #ILPs in #esol check #NRDC here http://bit.ly/iJWWVc #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:52 PM | @Marisa_C Agree here, often you are teaching 'live in [insert name of country] as well as language #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:52 PM | RT @pysproblem81: Slightly off-topic but for anyone interested in issues around #ILPs in #esol check #NRDC here http://bit.ly/iJWWVc #eltchat |
| pjgallantry | 11:52 PM | #eltchat I'm pretty sure the NRDC website has loads of stuff on literacy issues in ESOL |
| rliberni | 11:52 PM | @TyKendall shame on you! :-0 #eltchat |
| SueannaN | 11:52 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: Loads of links and further reading from tonights #eltchat which is good cos I think i need it :-) |
| pysproblem81 | 11:52 PM | Slightly off-topic but for anyone interested in issues around #ILPs in #esol check #NRDC here http://bit.ly/iJWWVc #eltchat |
| cunningcanis | 11:52 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: Loads of links and further reading from tonights #eltchat which is good cos I think i need it :-) |
| IslingtonEMAS | 11:53 PM | @springrose12 did somebody mention us? :-) #eltchat Now I know this exists, we will join in! |
| Marisa_C | 11:53 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: I often will assign individualized homework for my adults that focus on improving things they struggle with #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:53 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: @TyKendall tut tut, go and tweet 100 times, I must pay more attention to #eltchat ;-) |
| clever_flower | 11:53 PM | @ShellTerrell #eltchat Affects progress, creativity &status. Been 2 confernce in Social Sc. & speaker had2 present in L2 while 90+% speak L1 |
| cunningcanis | 11:53 PM | RT @BethCagnol: @Shaunwilden I also think I'm going to catch up on general education reading about literacy issues. #ELTCHAT |
| ShellTerrell | 11:53 PM | I often will assign individualized homework for my adults that focus on improving things they struggle with #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:53 PM | so summary of what we should do #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:53 PM | RT @SueannaN: RT @Shaunwilden: Loads of links and further reading from tonights #eltchat which is good cos I think i need it :-) |
| rliberni | 11:53 PM | RT @pysproblem81: @Marisa_C Some learners need to develop the basic motor skills of using IT, easy to take for granted #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:53 PM | @harrisonmike that's right #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:53 PM | @Marisa_C Some learners need to develop the basic motor skills of using IT, easy to take for granted #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:54 PM | RT @vickyloras: @harrisonmike Totally agree - the communtiy spirit of the students creates a better atmosphere in class 1st of all and then outside #ELTChat |
| springrose12 | 11:54 PM | @IslingtonEMAS Of course..How could I not:) You are all my teachers there:) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:54 PM | @TyKendall Yes i can imagine - time zone changes mess with things :-) #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:54 PM | @Marisa_C yes #eltchat |
| vickyloras | 11:54 PM | @harrisonmike Totally agree - the communtiy spirit of the students creates a better atmosphere in class 1st of all and then outside #ELTChat |
| toulasklavou | 11:54 PM | @Marisa_C @harrisonmike that's an excellent idea & all of us could feed in with ideas, sites, etc #eltchat |
| cunningcanis | 11:54 PM | RT @pysproblem81: Slightly off-topic but for anyone interested in issues around #ILPs in #esol check #NRDC here http://bit.ly/iJWWVc #eltchat |
| fionamau | 11:54 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: I often will assign individualized homework for my adults that focus on improving things they struggle with #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:54 PM | RT @IslingtonEMAS: @springrose12 did somebody mention us? :-) #eltchat Now I know this exists, we will join in! |
| cunningcanis | 11:54 PM | RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat I'm pretty sure the NRDC website has loads of stuff on literacy issues in ESOL |
| Marisa_C | 11:54 PM | @pysproblem81 For sure! If they can't move the pen right we can't assume they'll move the mouse better! #eltchat |
| TyKendall | 11:54 PM | @Shaunwilden #ELTCHAT it was easier in England when i had two extra hours to play with, im finding Istanbul time tiring lol |
| sandymillin | 11:54 PM | @Mbarek Dealing with literacy issues especially for low-level SS with little or no L1 literacy #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:55 PM | @cathywint yes it must be - my hubby is hearing impaired & it's hard enough sometimes with the same lang! #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:55 PM | it's getting hot in egypt #eltchat |
| teflerinha | 11:55 PM | RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat I'm pretty sure the NRDC website has loads of stuff on literacy issues in ESOL |
| SueannaN | 11:55 PM | @cgoodey bye honey #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:55 PM | @IslingtonEMAS #eltchat is about how to teach English to non-literate Ss |
| cgoodey | 11:55 PM | I've followed #eltchat as well as I can but now my computer is being comandeered.... Will catch up later :-) |
| clever_flower | 11:55 PM | “@boyledsweetie: #ELTChat encourage students t bring in family pictures, everybody's favourite topic!" Great idea 4 motivation! |
| ShellTerrell | 11:55 PM | There are a lot of great links for today's #eltchat transcript! Thank you everyone for the resources! #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 11:56 PM | @Marisa_C @toulasklavou Any1 interested in setting up online resource/com please keep me in the loop! I sense a project coming on #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:56 PM | #ELTChat Just flipped through my ELT teacher training manuals. Nothing in teaching sts with learning disabilities. Nada! Zip! |
| springrose12 | 11:56 PM | @cathywint Do you teach adults? #eltchat |
| TyKendall | 11:56 PM | @harrisonmike #ELTCHAT yeah been here since Sunday! Still getting used to the place! |
| ShellTerrell | 11:57 PM | @MisterEason No but stations work really well with that dynamic :-) #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:57 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: @bethcagnol When I had my ADHD student who was dyslexic I had to search what was available for general education #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 11:57 PM | @bethcagnol It's a specialist area best taught by people who have specialist knowledge - ELT people don't as a rule #ELTChat |
| BethCagnol | 11:57 PM | @harrisonmike @marisa_c @toulasklavou Yeah. A blog would be a good start. #ELTChat |
| IslingtonEMAS | 11:57 PM | @springrose12 by non literate you mean in their mother tongue? #eltchat |
| naomishema | 11:57 PM | #eltchat pupils exhibit stronger symptoms of learning disabilities in a foreign language especially if direction & letters are different! |
| clever_flower | 11:57 PM | “@lolonagi: it's getting hot in egypt #eltchat†U from Egypt too?! Ahlan! :)) |
| ShellTerrell | 11:57 PM | @bethcagnol When I had my ADHD student who was dyslexic I had to search what was available for general education #eltchat |
| LucyBlakemore | 11:57 PM | It's v early in Aus but our migrant programmes teachers would get lots from #eltchat discussion right now. Look fwd to summary to share! |
| rliberni | 11:57 PM | RT @Shaunwilden: @bethcagnol CELTA has to cover literacy and learning issues which I think is a good thing #eltchat |
| rliberni | 11:57 PM | @bethcagnol not surprise can't say I've ever come across it - amazed that hasn't been picked up! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:57 PM | @bethcagnol CELTA has to cover literacy and learning issues which I think is a good thing #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:57 PM | RT @harrisonmike: @Marisa_C @toulasklavou Any1 interested in setting up online resource/com please keep me in the loop! I sense a project coming on #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 11:57 PM | @bethcagnol ameen those ppl do not exsit in teaching manuals as if they do not exist #eltchat :( |
| cunningcanis | 11:57 PM | RT @ShellTerrell: There are a lot of great links for today's #eltchat transcript! Thank you everyone for the resources! #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:57 PM | “@clever_flower #ELTChat encourage students t bring in family pictures, everybody's favourite topic!" Great idea 4 motivation!†weddings too |
| teflerinha | 11:58 PM | Loved my first #eltchat. Thank you everyone for the ideas, links, laughs. |
| harrisonmike | 11:58 PM | @bethcagnol That's cos we're not trained for it! Just a CELTA and you can end up faced with this in the class in the UK in FE #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell | 11:58 PM | @MisterEason This was in reference to our #eltchat and I work with small groups of adults teaching them English who have learning needs |
| springrose12 | 11:58 PM | @IslingtonEMAS Yes #eltchat |
| boyledsweetie | 11:58 PM | #ELTChat off to do some writing May the 4th be with you all ( depending on time zone ;0) ) |
| rliberni | 11:58 PM | RT @Marisa_C: @bethcagnol It's a specialist area best taught by people who have specialist knowledge - ELT people don't as a rule #ELTChat |
| lolonagi | 11:58 PM | @naomishema yes, ahleeeeeeeeeeeen #eltchat :)) |
| Shaunwilden | 11:59 PM | @bethcagnol It's not much but better than nothing #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 11:59 PM | @cathywint Teenagers learn computing quite quickly in my school but obviously they need to use it often in other subjects. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 11:59 PM | @teflerinha Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for joining, see you next week :-) #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:59 PM | @Shaunwilden Oh good!! That's definitely good news. #ELTChat |
| sandymillin | 11:59 PM | @teflerinha Glad you enjoyed #eltchat Hope to see you again! |
| ShellTerrell | 11:59 PM | @teflerinha Thank you for the conversation! #eltchat See you again |
| lolonagi | 11:59 PM | 2 minutes left folks #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 11:59 PM | @Marisa_C @bethcagnol ELT teachers can cope with the learning disabilities as long as they know L1 #ELTChat |
| IslingtonEMAS | 11:59 PM | @naomishema #eltchat wouldnt say learning disability- just hindered |
| Marisa_C | 11:59 PM | @boyledsweetie Cheers & see you soon :-) #ELTChat |
| pysproblem81 | 11:59 PM | Worst thing is that classes dealiing for these learners are under threat in the UK at the moment - see @actionforesol for details #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 11:59 PM | @lolonagi I've been shocked to see how many counties in Europe still don't know how to approach learning disabilities. Shocked. #ELTChat |
| harrisonmike | 12:00 AM | Great chat RT @SueAnnan: Thanks as always to the participants and moderators. Will enjoy reading the links when they are out #ELTchat |
| naomishema | 12:00 AM | @IslingtonEMAS #eltchat oh no, talking about real, diagnosed LD. In Israel we see it often - L1 they deal with but LD comes out strong in L2 |
| Shaunwilden | 12:00 AM | RT @SueAnnan: Thanks as always to the participants and moderators. Will enjoy reading the links when they are out #ELTchat me too :-) |
| BethCagnol | 12:00 AM | @Marisa_C Which is why I think it needs to be at least touched upon in ELT training. #ELTChat |
| esolcourses | 12:00 AM | RT @SueAnnan: Thanks as always to the participants and moderators. Will enjoy reading the links when they are out #ELTchat |
| SueannaN | 12:00 AM | Thanks as always to the participants and moderators. Will enjoy reading the links when they are out #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike | 12:00 AM | Hooray, 'nother convert! RT @teflerinha: Loved my first #eltchat. Thank you everyone for the ideas, links, laughs. |
| Marisa_C | 12:01 AM | @almudena_fdez I think that has been the drift for low literacy anyway - that we necessarily do some CLIL #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden | 12:01 AM | @Marisa_C Agreed, I got an expert in to give me my session on it :-) #eltchat |
| worldteacher | 12:01 AM | Thanks for another great #eltchat - will need to read & digest all the info later! |
| IslingtonEMAS | 12:01 AM | #eltchat sorry joined so late and thanks to Tuba for highlighting this! Will come back next time- training schedule permitting!! |
| BethCagnol | 12:01 AM | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @SueAnnan: Thanks as always to the participants and moderators. Will enjoy reading the links when they are out #ELTchat me too :-) |
| sandymillin | 12:01 AM | RT @Shaunwilden: Before you all rush off we need a summary writer as usual :-) #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 | 12:01 AM | Thanks for the discussion.... thanks to mods and participants loads there, think the summary will be a real resource! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 12:01 AM | @bethcagnol yes but a bit dangerous u know - u can do more damage with half baked knowledge #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden | 12:01 AM | Before you all rush off we need a summary writer as usual :-) #eltchat |
| lolonagi | 12:01 AM | oh... it's done #eltchat bye beautiful mods and ppl see u next week... |
| almudena_fdez | 12:01 AM | @Marisa_C #ELTchat I think that to increase the focus on content in ELT is strongly motivating for students. Why not some CLIL in ELT/EFL? |
| springrose12 | 12:01 AM | @IslingtonEMAS Hello, are you still there? #eltchat |
| rliberni | 12:02 AM | RT @sandymillin: What would u do w/ this ticket http://wp.me/p1sbtu-k w/ low-level literacy SS? Real English at work! #eltchat #elt #efl #esol #tesol #tefl |
| sandymillin | 12:02 AM | What would u do w/ this ticket http://wp.me/p1sbtu-k w/ low-level literacy SS? Real English at work! #eltchat #elt #efl #esol #tesol #tefl |
| raqueleeta | 12:02 AM | RT @worldteacher: Thanks for another great #eltchat - will need to read & digest all the info later! |
| clever_flower | 12:02 AM | “@harrisonmike: Hooray, 'nother convert! RT @teflerinha: Loved my first #eltchat. Thank you everyone for the ideas, links, laughs.†lol a3rd |
| Shaunwilden | 12:02 AM | @lauraesol too late :-) #eltchat |
| springrose12 | 12:02 AM | @ShellTerrell @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Thx a lot for moderating. As always it's been a pleasure..Have a great evening. #eltchat |
| BethCagnol | 12:02 AM | @Marisa_C I think we should at least know who to turn to when we're faced with this issue. I feel a bit alone here in France. #ELTChat |
| rliberni | 12:02 AM | Thank you everyone for another great discussion gr8 mods @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @ShellTerrell Bravo! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 12:02 AM | RT @Shaunwilden: Before you all rush off we need a summary writer as usual :-) #eltchat |
| Mbarek | 12:02 AM | RT @pysproblem81: Thanks for the discussion.... thanks to mods and participants loads there, #eltchat |
| DavidWarr | 12:02 AM | #ELTchat thanx to everyone,particularly liked the shared writing resource TypeWith.me lots of possibilities there |
| LucyBlakemore | 12:03 AM | “@cathywint: also need to consider digital literacy. May now have experience of using PCs so have ICT skills needs too†#eltchat #literacy |
| BethCagnol | 12:03 AM | @marisa_c Illiterate students are often sent to speech therapists. Uh...maybe not the right remedy. #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C | 12:03 AM | Thanks to everyone & special thanks for links shared! It's a fascinating subject and we all need to know more about it #ELTchat |
| toulasklavou | 12:03 AM | goodnight all!#eltchat |
| Mbarek | 12:03 AM | RT @sandymillin: What would u do w/ this ticket http://wp.me/p1sbhttp://wp.me/p1sbtu-keracy SS? Real English at work! #eltchat |
| vickyloras | 12:03 AM | Another super #ELTChat - many thanks to everyone!So many links to find great info from : ) |
| rliberni | 12:03 AM | RT @clever_flower: “@harrisonmike: Hooray, 'nother convert! RT @teflerinha: Loved my first #eltchat. Thank you everyone for the ideas, links, laughs.†lol a3rd |
| ShellTerrell | 12:04 AM | Thanks everyone for another thought-provoking #eltchat & our great moderators @rliberni @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden |
| IslingtonEMAS | 12:04 AM | #eltchat Nite all- I'm tweeting for @IslingtonEMAS and my personal one is @lisataner :-) |
| harrisonmike | 12:04 AM | @Marisa_C I'll second that Marisa! #eltchat |
| harrisonmike | 12:04 AM | RT @Marisa_C: Thanks to everyone & special thanks for links shared! It's a fascinating subject and we all need to know more about it #ELTchat |
| BethCagnol | 12:04 AM | RT @vickyloras: Another super #ELTChat - many thanks to everyone!So many links to find great info from : ) |
| cunningcanis | 12:04 AM | #ELTchat very interesting subject and I look forward to the transcript. Thanks:) |
| NoraTouparlaki | 12:04 AM | RT @vickyloras: Another super #ELTChat - many thanks to everyone!So many links to find great info from : ) |
| rliberni | 12:05 AM | Please join Carney, Sandoe in celebrating Teacher Appreciation week: http://on.fb.me/jPRVXy #edchat #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden | 12:05 AM | @worldteacher I got it just before this chat will send you it in a bit #eltchat |
| IslingtonEMAS | 12:05 AM | @springrose12 #eltchat We will- this is the perfect place to connect it seems! Would appreciate some follows. Thanks! |
| naomishema | 12:05 AM | #eltchat what a day for me - two great eltchats in one day - that's a first! Good night! |
| springrose12 | 12:05 AM | @harrisonmike @Marisa_C Me, too..me, too:) #eltchat |
| worldteacher | 12:05 AM | @Shaunwilden Is the transcript out yet for 12noon #eltchat? Need to write the summary & may have missed the link as been teaching all day. |
| ShellTerrell | 12:06 AM | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTChat thanks to the moderators! This is such a great boost in the middle of the week! Let's hear it for PJ Professional Development! PJPD |
| Marisa_C | 12:06 AM | Thank you all for joining this chat - will get transcript out soon - but am a bit whoozy from dentist :-) #ELTchat |
| springrose12 | 12:06 AM | RT @IslingtonEMAS: @springrose12 #eltchat We will- this is the perfect place to connect it seems! Would appreciate some follows. Thanks! |
| rliberni | 12:06 AM | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTChat thanks to the moderators! This is such a great boost in the middle of the week! Let's hear it for PJ Professional Development! PJPD |
| BethCagnol | 12:06 AM | #ELTChat thanks to the moderators! This is such a great boost in the middle of the week! Let's hear it for PJ Professional Development! PJPD |
| sandymillin | 12:06 AM | Don't 4get: this wk's #eltpics is 'Working Week' - now up to 38 http://bit.ly/j98l35 Tweet urs w/ hashtag #eltchat #efl #tefl #esol #esl |
| BethCagnol | 12:07 AM | @sandymillin Thanks for the link!! I was looking for that earlier today. Super! #ELTChat |
| pjgallantry | 12:08 AM | #eltchat some thoughts from the lunchtime session Paul's ELT Journal: All chatted out! http://t.co/zmWbdhD Thanks everyone! |
| LisaTaner | 12:08 AM | RT @IslingtonEMAS: #eltchat Nite all- I'm tweeting for @IslingtonEMAS and my personal one is @lisataner :-) |
| Marisa_C | 12:08 AM | @bethcagnol Great big burst of energy - you're absolutely right! #ELTChat |
| LisaTaner | 12:08 AM | RT @IslingtonEMAS: @springrose12 #eltchat We will- this is the perfect place to connect it seems! Would appreciate some follows. Thanks! |
| harrisonmike | 12:09 AM | And that's me out. Night all, thanks so much to @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden and everyone on #ELTchat |
| sandymillin | 12:09 AM | RT @Marisa_C: I love it when I sometimes think "Oh, we won't havemuch to say on this" Then you all go and produce these fabulous conversations! #ELTchat |
| vickyloras | 12:09 AM | RT @bethcagnol #ELTChat thanks2the moderators!This is such a great boost in mid of the wk!Let's hear it for PJ Professional Dev't! PJPD |
| LucyBlakemore | 12:09 AM | @ginawhitfield check the #eltchat this morning for discussion on adult literacy - some good stuff for GP? |
| seburnt | 12:09 AM | Ooops. Got caught up with Oprah. Bye! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C | 12:09 AM | I love it when I sometimes think "Oh, we won't havemuch to say on this" Then you all go and produce these fabulous conversations! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C | 12:10 AM | @harrisonmike very happy this topic was picked Mike - all I needed to say about position & movement in class is in my PK :-D #ELTchat |
| NoraTouparlaki | 12:12 AM | night all! thanx everyone! #ELTChat |
| IslingtonEMAS | 12:13 AM | Welcome new followers especially from #ELTchat ! |
| vickyloras | 12:13 AM | Ya gotta love #ELTchat - I'd missed it for a few weeks and it feels goooooood to be back! |
| Marisa_C | 12:15 AM | Has anyone volunteered to write the summary on literacy please? #ELTchat |