8:08 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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RT @Shaunwilden: The topic is How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices #ELTchat
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8:08 pm
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rliberni:
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OK Welcome to #eltchat How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices
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8:09 pm
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sandymillin:
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What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition
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8:09 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Apparently everyone has drank wine before the #ELTChat today we're getting started now!
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8:09 pm
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Fuertesun:
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RT @sandymillin: What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition
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8:09 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @sandymillin: What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition
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8:09 pm
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web20education:
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RT @rliberni: OK Welcome to #eltchat How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices
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8:09 pm
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juandoming:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Apparently everyone has drank wine before the #ELTChat today we're getting started now!
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8:09 pm
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efl101:
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RT @sandymillin: What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition
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8:09 pm
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nutrich:
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@sandymillin #ELTchat good Q - laptops?!
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8:09 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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#eltchat I'd taken it to mean smartphones - something with internet access - is that too narrow?
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8:10 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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What are characteristics you associate with mobile learning? #Eltchat
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8:10 pm
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rliberni:
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@ShellTerrell Lol that's why nobody is around they're all now on the floor #eltchat :-)
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8:10 pm
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Fuertesun:
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@ShellTerrell new and shiny #Eltchat
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8:10 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@sandymillin I'd say any electronic thingie that works without being plugged in to the mains - but maybe I'm behind the times ;-) #eltchat
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8:10 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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I believe it's portable, involves learning anywhere anytime, & involves the learning taking charge of the content #ELTChat
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8:11 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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#eltchat I think there's a difference between using handheld devices in the classroom and mlearning?
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8:11 pm
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nutrich:
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@ShellTerrell small, portable, often sneakily used by ss when the T isn't looking! #ELTchat
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8:11 pm
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sandymillin:
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@cerirhiannon Don't know if it's only smartphones. Because if it is a lot of my students are out - don't think many have access #eltchat
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8:11 pm
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rliberni:
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Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat
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8:11 pm
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alicemercer:
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@rliberni clicker to contol my computer, and have kids add to class chart , recording of discussions, documenting w/photos #eltchat
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8:11 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon Don't know if it's only smartphones. Because if it is a lot of my students are out - don't think many have access #eltchat
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8:11 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat I think there's a difference between using handheld devices in the classroom and mlearning?
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8:11 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @nutrich: @ShellTerrell small, portable, often sneakily used by ss when the T isn't looking! #ELTchat
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8:11 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon I'd say. I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat
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8:11 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat > v limited use - not many ss have smartphones
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8:12 pm
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Fuertesun:
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@rliberni no #eltchat
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8:12 pm
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efl101:
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@rliberni students use them as dictionaries, reference portals etc. but don't often integrate them into lesson myself #eltchat
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8:12 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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RT @nutrich: @cerirhiannon I'd say. I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat
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8:12 pm
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sandymillin:
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RT @Fuertesun: @rliberni no #eltchat <me neither
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8:12 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@nutrich Ah but it doesn't have to be sneakily used if we integrate in schools #Eltchat
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8:12 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon @rliberni also what about ss having a variety of phones, i.e. iphone or android - different apps #ELTchat
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8:12 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat > yeah, thought maybe the waters were getting a bit muddied ;)
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8:12 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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I agree! RT @nutrich: I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat
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8:12 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat I think there's a difference between using handheld devices in the classroom and mlearning?
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8:12 pm
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rliberni:
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How do we feel about using them? #eltchat
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8:12 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @rliberni: Does anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat
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8:12 pm
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nutrich:
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@ShellTerrell yeah, I know, reveal the secrets! #ELTchat
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8:12 pm
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Marisa_C:
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Hi Everyone ! Sorry to be late - confused again abt the time :-( #ELTchat
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8:12 pm
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sandymillin:
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@ShellTerrell @rliberni So which definition are we going with? #ELTchat
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8:12 pm
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Fuertesun:
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@rliberni don't know how #eltchat
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8:13 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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RT @rliberni: Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat I got my sts to look things up on them s/times
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8:13 pm
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efl101:
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RT @rliberni: How do we feel about using them? #eltchat good question, not sure sometimes good sometimes a distraction
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8:13 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: How do we feel about using them? #eltchat > in current conterxt using them is "illicit" 'cos of school rules - but we still do
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8:13 pm
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newmanswords:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I agree! RT @nutrich: I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat
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8:13 pm
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nutrich:
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I've only encouraged use of them for dictionary apps #ELTchat
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8:13 pm
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harrisonmike:
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@ShellTerrell #eltchat I do! I photograph the board. My students told me off for using my mobile in class: ? (cont) http://deck.ly/~nhkNo
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8:13 pm
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fboss:
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@sandymillin Some cameras use SD cards that can also capture geo-location info as well - this is definitely a mobile device #eltchat
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8:13 pm
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rliberni:
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@sandymillin I think it can be both using with stds in the classroom or using as a learning tool by themselves #eltchat
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8:13 pm
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NikkiFortova:
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RT @rliberni: Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat my Ss sometimes use them as a dictionary
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8:14 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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How do we feel about using them? I'd say why not we use them in life, well I do all the time #ELTchat
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8:14 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @fboss: @sandymillin Some cameras use SD cards that can also capture geo-location info as well - this is definitely a mobile device #eltchat
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8:14 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: I've only encouraged use of them for dictionary apps #ELTchat > yes, and looking up footie scores in English ;)
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8:14 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @Shaunwilden: How do we feel about using them? I'd say why not we use them in life, well I do all the time #ELTchat
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8:14 pm
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springrose12:
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@ShellTerrell I asked my year 11 group to use their mobile phones to shoot their short films. They'll bring the clips next week #eltchat
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8:14 pm
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nutrich:
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@harrisonmike @ShellTerrell Oh yeah! I've done that too and got ss to do it also #ELTchat
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8:14 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Agree! RT @Shaunwilden: How do we feel about using them? I'd say why not we use them in life, well I do all the time #ELTchat
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8:14 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell I asked my year 11 group to use their mobile phones to shoot their short films. They'll bring the clips next week #eltchat
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8:14 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon that's just me! ; ) #ELTchat
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8:14 pm
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Fuertesun:
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Call me a luddite but is this taking shiny technology too far? #eltchat
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8:14 pm
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eannegrenoble:
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RT @efl101: students use them as dictionaries, - SnaPanda is great on androids #eltchat @shaunwilden @nutrich
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8:14 pm
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alhen_:
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my students simply don't have them #eltchat #bolivia
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8:14 pm
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efl101:
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problem is not all sts have smart phones so fairness/equal access issues arise #eltchat
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8:14 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Cool! RT @springrose12: I asked my year 11 group to use their mobile phones to shoot their short films. They'll bring clips next wk #eltchat
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8:14 pm
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Fuertesun:
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RT @efl101: RT @rliberni: How do we feel about using them? #eltchat good question, not sure sometimes good sometimes a distraction
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8:14 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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#eltchat use them for sharing and taking photos - most phones have cameras - and videos too a possibility
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8:14 pm
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rliberni:
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Do any of your schools have a banning policy? #eltchat
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8:15 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @efl101: problem is not all sts have smart phones so fairness/equal access issues arise #eltchat
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8:15 pm
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harrisonmike:
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#ELTchat Found out that mine overrely on translation dictionary apps, not really helping lang devt IMO RT @nut? (cont) http://deck.ly/~PIsci
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8:15 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Probably most unfortunately! :( RT @rliberni: Do any of your schools have a banning policy? #eltchat
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8:15 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: @cerirhiannon that's just me! ; ) #ELTchat > nah, my high school ss were doing just that last class ;) - as part of lesson
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8:15 pm
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nutrich:
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here we go - spam coming my way - beware mentioning brand names! #ELTchat
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8:15 pm
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uniquelanguages:
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Keep forgetting about this. Hi. #ELTchat Occasionally use it but the ideal would be an ipad/tablet computer.
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8:15 pm
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helen100463:
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@harrisonmike #eltchat I can use my phone in class but pupils can't - so we huddle !
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8:15 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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hi I think laptops too count as mobile devices #eltchat
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8:15 pm
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efl101:
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@rliberni no banning policy but no encouragement either #eltchat
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8:15 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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I had a row with my sister, a school tch cos her sts used phones to google, I said well done 2 them she said they were cheating #eltchat
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8:15 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @helen100463: @harrisonmike #eltchat I can use my phone in class but pupils can't - so we huddle !
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8:15 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon good stuff! #eltchat
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8:15 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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I use mobile phones, digital cameras to collect photos, video, & audio when we do scavenger hunts with my YLs #Eltchat
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8:15 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@Shaunwilden considering skype, flatrates etc. I don't get why teachers just get students to sit back to back for telephoning.. #ELTchat
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8:16 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @Shaunwilden: I had a row with my sister, a school tch cos her sts used phones to google, I said well done 2 them she said they were cheating #eltchat
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8:16 pm
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juandoming:
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RT @web20education: Best #iPhone #iPad #ipod Apps in #education #Appolicious #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://t.co/o5nQZwh #eltchat #ascd11
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8:16 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @web20education: Best #iPhone #iPad #ipod Apps in #education #Appolicious #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://t.co/o5nQZwh #eltchat #ascd11
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8:16 pm
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theteacherjames:
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#eltchat Even when I taught in technocentric Korea not everyone had smartphones.
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8:16 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I use mobile phones, digital cameras to collect photos, video, & audio when we do scavenger hunts with my YLs #Eltchat
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8:16 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Even when I taught in technocentric Korea not everyone had smartphones.
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8:16 pm
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lolonagi:
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#ELTchat has not started, but ppl are excited ;-)
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8:16 pm
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ayatawel:
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hello everyone !! what's our topic tronight? #ELTchat
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8:16 pm
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Fuertesun:
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@rliberni yes no phones in my schools #eltchat
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8:16 pm
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theteacherjames:
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @Shaunwilden considering skype, flatrates etc. I don't get why teachers just get students to sit back to back for telephoning.. #ELTchat
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8:16 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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@harrisonmike re translation apps - good to use them to highlight the problems - as with google translator on laptops/IWB #eltchat
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8:16 pm
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nutrich:
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Phone memory can now hold quite a lot of stuff and audio/ video recordings are easy #ELTchat
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8:16 pm
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fboss:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I use mobile phones, digital cameras to collect photos, video, & audio when we do scavenger hunts with my YLs #Eltchat
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8:16 pm
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sandymillin:
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RT @efl101: problem is not all sts have smart phones so fairness/equal access issues arise #eltchat
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8:16 pm
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efl101:
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RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Even when I taught in technocentric Korea not everyone had smartphones. - the day will come ;-)
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8:17 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Recently taught this summer refugees at @Marisa_C 's CELTA course & all had mobile phones. I think they're more common now #ELTChat
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8:17 pm
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eannegrenoble:
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RT @nutrich: here we go - spam coming my way - beware mentioning brand names! #ELTchat - hope that wasn't me :-(
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8:17 pm
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sandymillin:
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#eltchat Actually, my SS use their phones to take pics of board and for dictionaries. I've never encouraged them
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8:17 pm
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helen100463:
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RT @Fuertesun: @rliberni yes no phones in my schools #eltchat Me too :((
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8:17 pm
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Fuertesun:
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@harrisonmike yes I remember when those translator machines first came out! agh #ELTchat
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8:17 pm
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rliberni:
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In Japan they give stds iPhones in some universities to get work sent to them, check attendance, deadlines etc.. #eltchat
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8:17 pm
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web20education:
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It?s finally here: the OFFICIAL Vimeo for #iPhone, #iPod #iPad #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://bit.ly/fbSrxZ #eltchat
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8:17 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Actually, my SS use their phones to take pics of board and for dictionaries. I've never encouraged them
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8:17 pm
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efl101:
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anyone use ipads? #eltchat
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8:17 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @web20education: It?s finally here: the OFFICIAL Vimeo for #iPhone, #iPod #iPad #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://bit.ly/fbSrxZ #eltchat
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8:17 pm
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theteacherjames:
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@efl101 #eltchat Sure, it almost is there.
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8:17 pm
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sandymillin:
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#eltchat But I do use my camera a lot - photos of board, activities, things to remember...
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8:17 pm
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springrose12:
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@ShellTerrell I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat
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8:17 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: Phone memory can now hold quite a lot of stuff and audio/ video recordings are easy #ELTchat
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8:18 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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for those just joining the topic is How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices #ELTchat
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8:18 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat
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8:18 pm
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sandymillin:
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@rliberni That should have said "I've never encouraged them explicitly to do this" #eltchat
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8:18 pm
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nutrich:
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RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat
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8:18 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Best ways to use mobile phones for anguage learning involves audio/image/video recording, & sms features common to most phones now #ELTChat
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8:18 pm
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Brian_ThomasTCI:
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@ShellTerrell you can create QR codes of things you want students to find on scavenging using mobile devices. Very fun. #eltchat
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8:18 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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#eltchat taight grou`p of young professional adults in southern Spain NO-ONE had a smartphone :(
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8:18 pm
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rliberni:
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@sandymillin that's interesting cos it's entirely their preference should tell us sthing #eltchat
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8:18 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Great idea! RT @springrose12: I used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat
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8:18 pm
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lolonagi:
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@Shaunwilden but we still have more time 2 start #eltchat
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8:18 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: you can create QR codes of things you want students to find on scavenging using mobile devices. Very fun. #eltchat
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8:18 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat taight grou`p of young professional adults in southern Spain NO-ONE had a smartphone :(
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8:19 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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voice recorders? #eltchat
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8:19 pm
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efl101:
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RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: you can create QR codes of things you want students to find on scavenging using mobile devices. #eltchat >nice
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8:19 pm
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nutrich:
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@Brian_ThomasTCI @ShellTerrell what are QR codes? #ELTchat
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8:19 pm
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sandymillin:
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@rliberni Admittedly, most of the ones who use their phones work for a tech company! #eltchat
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8:19 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @sandymillin: #eltchat my SS use their phones to take pics of board and for dictionaries. > nice, pics of board, of course!
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8:19 pm
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rliberni:
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@cerirhiannon mt std last week had phone on all the time but didn't want to use for lessons except dictionary #eltchat
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8:19 pm
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sandymillin:
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@AnthonyGaughan Would love to use Skype, but no net access! #ELTchat
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8:19 pm
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helen100463:
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@ShellTerrell used my mobile phone to record their speaking and post to posterous site from class #ELTchat
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8:19 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @sandymillin: @rliberni Admittedly, most of the ones who use their phones work for a tech company! #eltchat
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8:19 pm
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SENACDAEVilleta:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Best ways to use mobile phones for anguage learning involves audio/image/video recording, & sms features common to most phones now #ELTChat
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8:19 pm
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worldteacher:
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No mobile devices allowed in our classrooms, I'm afraid - have used them on field trips, though. #eltchat
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8:19 pm
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cgoodey:
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Most of my ESOL learners have a phone but many just have a very basic/hand-me-down model! Use them to text reminders/cancellations #eltchat
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8:19 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat
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8:19 pm
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efl101:
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@nutrich those little square bar code thingummyjigs #eltchat
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8:20 pm
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rliberni:
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@helen100463 that's a great use! #eltchat
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8:20 pm
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web20education:
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@ischooladvocate launches Donate to Educate to put more #iPad in the classroom http://bit.ly/eJ0QJQ #cosn11 #edtech20 #edreform #eltchat
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8:20 pm
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ayatawel:
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@Shaunwilden what's exactly meant by mobile devices?#ELTchat
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8:20 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Awesome! RT @helen100463: used my mobile phone to record their speaking and post to posterous site from class #ELTchat
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8:20 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat
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8:20 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @cgoodey: Most of my ESOL learners have a phone but many just have a very basic/hand-me-down model! Use them to text reminders/cancellations #eltchat
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8:20 pm
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nutrich:
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Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat
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8:20 pm
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NikkiFortova:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat
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8:20 pm
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sandymillin:
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RT @Shaunwilden: for those just joining the topic is How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices #ELTchat
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8:20 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat
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8:20 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @sandymillin: #eltchat photos of board, activities, things to remember... >me too, but usually use camera - so last decade ;)
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8:20 pm
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nutrich:
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@efl101 ok cheers. Not really got into any of that scanning malarkey yet! #ELTchat
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8:20 pm
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rliberni:
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@ShellTerrell yea this is my feeling my slogan 'all your learning in your pocket' #eltchat
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8:20 pm
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eannegrenoble:
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yeah or give them a model RT@springrose12: I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat
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8:20 pm
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cherrylkd:
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#eltchat @djmott used smart phone to upload observed lesson straight to twitter for feedback from PLN for ch and uni observer. V impressive
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8:21 pm
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efl101:
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photo diary and present is good, most phones have cameras #eltchat
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8:21 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @cgoodey: Most of my ESOL learners have a phone but many just have a very basic/hand-me-down model! Use them to text reminders/cancellations #eltchat
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8:21 pm
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sandymillin:
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@cerirhiannon I use my camera too. phone was cheapest in shop - no camera on it! #eltchat
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8:21 pm
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worldteacher:
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@efl101 anyone use ipads? #eltchat Only my own &, like someone else said, we huddle!!
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8:21 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Great slogan! RT @rliberni: yea this is my feeling my slogan 'all your learning in your pocket' #eltchat
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8:21 pm
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rliberni:
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@cgoodey can use sms I do mostly sms it's easy and still has value #eltchat
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8:21 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@ayatawel seems it has to be portable from smart phones to cameras, if you look at tweets from around 20 mins ago people discussed #eltchat
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8:21 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Recently taught this summer refugees at @Marisa_C 's CELTA course & all had mobile phones. I think they're more common now #ELTChat
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8:21 pm
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ESL_ai:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient,... #ELTChat | +1
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8:21 pm
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MahomedyHussein:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I believe it's portable, involves learning anywhere anytime, & involves the learning taking charge of the content #ELTChat
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8:22 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat
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8:22 pm
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eannegrenoble:
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good one RT @helen100463: @ShellTerrell used my mobile phone to record their speaking and post to posterous site from class #ELTchat
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8:22 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Also mobile learning allows the learner to apply the language & vocabulary in a contextual setting & with others. Authentic! #ELTChat
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8:22 pm
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rliberni:
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@ShellTerrell more mobiles in Africa than computers #eltchat
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8:22 pm
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fionamau:
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RT @nutrich: Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat
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8:22 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Also mobile learning allows the learner to apply the language & vocabulary in a contextual setting & with others. Authentic! #ELTChat
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8:22 pm
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springrose12:
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@ShellTerrell problem is mobile phones are not allowed in school because of cyber bullying risks so I have to use mine #eltchat
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8:22 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@worldteacher I use my own for intenet access and bringing phonemic charts etc 4 sts #eltchat
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8:22 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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In many countries this is true & cheaper than room of computers! RT @rliberni: more mobiles in Africa than computers #eltchat
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8:22 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon I use my camera too. phone was cheapest in shop - no camera on it! #eltchat > LOL!
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8:22 pm
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jurylady:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Recently taught this summer refugees at @Marisa_C 's CELTA course & all had mobile phones. I think they're more common now #ELTChat
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8:22 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @nutrich: Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat
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8:22 pm
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rliberni:
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What other barriers exist to using mobile phones? #eltchat
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8:22 pm
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cgoodey:
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@rliberni True! I've used sms between sessions for information but not in class #eltchat
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8:23 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@springrose12 I use mine too! #ELTChat
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8:23 pm
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familysimpson:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat
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8:23 pm
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nutrich:
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@rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat
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8:23 pm
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theteacherjames:
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RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat
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8:23 pm
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efl101:
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RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat > or simply don't have them
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8:23 pm
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rliberni:
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@cgoodey I send out alerts and things to my site members #eltchat
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8:23 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Great way to introduce parents to idea of having their YLs use mobile phones in class is do a phone show/tell & what it can do #ELTChat
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8:23 pm
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rliberni:
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@nutrich @efl101 would they share? #eltchat
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8:23 pm
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nutrich:
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@efl101 @rliberni Yeah, and don't like them! #eltchat
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8:23 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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#eltchat@nutrich I have adult sts so all have mobile phones
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8:24 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat > good point -about 4 students out of 18 have'em here
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8:24 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Great way to introduce parents to idea of having their YLs use mobile phones in class is do a phone show/tell & what it can do #ELTChat
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8:24 pm
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web20education:
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I am passionate #iphone #ipad I made a #Mlearning topic http://www.scoop.it/t/mlearningusingiphone-ipad-ipod-web20education/ Join #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Then you know what tools available & who has one & parents can see potential for language learning #ELTChat
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8:24 pm
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stumpteacher:
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RT @Shaunwilden: I had a row with my sister, a school tch cos her sts used phones to google, I said well done 2 them she said they were cheating #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@rliberni One barrier is if all sts have them or have the same capabilities on them #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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nutrich:
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@rliberni @efl101 well yeah, but for YLs particularly maybe there cd be issues of feeling inadequate #ELTchat
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8:24 pm
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fionamau:
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RT @efl101: RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them? #ELTchat > or simply don't have them ? (cont) http://deck.ly/~LOx7T
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8:24 pm
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nutrich:
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RT @Shaunwilden: @rliberni One barrier is if all sts have them or have the same capabilities on them #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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efl101:
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@rliberni possibly, but not being able to guarantee everyone access causes problems integrating m-learning into lesson #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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rliberni:
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What about the cost? #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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@nutrich @rliberni smartphones I mean (4 out of 18) #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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NikkiFortova:
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RT @efl101: @rliberni possibly, but not being able to guarantee everyone access causes problems integrating m-learning into lesson #eltchat
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8:24 pm
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cgoodey:
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@rliberni That's a good idea. #eltchat
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8:25 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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Another would be sts thinking they can use their phone carte blanche, there will be times when you dont want them on them #eltchat
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8:25 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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All my learners share mobile devices! Teachers them collaboration & supports them speaking English, prob solving, sharing together #ELTChat
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8:25 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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A third would be it's not so good for exam classes, they cant use them in exams #eltchat
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8:25 pm
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rliberni:
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@fionamau @nutrich @efl101 @cerirhiannon yes need to be sensitive #eltchat
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8:25 pm
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familysimpson:
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@rliberni #eltchat should we monitor what phones are being used for in class? Do we monitor suitable pencil usage?
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8:25 pm
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pigletruth:
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kids are addicted to phones but skype is great for adult sts #ELTchat
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8:25 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: All my learners share mobile devices! Teachers them collaboration & supports them speaking English, prob solving, sharing together #ELTChat
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8:25 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon @rliberni yep. In Spain last year I had one st in a class of 12 16 yr olds who owned one #ELTchat
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8:25 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @familysimpson: @rliberni #eltchat should we monitor what phones are being used for in class? Do we monitor suitable pencil usage?
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8:25 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @Shaunwilden: not so good for exam classes, they cant use them in exams #eltchat > tho still good for recording and using images
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8:26 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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how do you use skype? #eltchat
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8:26 pm
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sandymillin:
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Have encouraged SS to record themselves at home on phone, email to me, I upload, e.g. http://bit.ly/f6BSwg (comments welcome!) #eltchat
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8:26 pm
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rliberni:
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@nutrich do you think that ratio will be the same now? #eltchat
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8:26 pm
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Brian_ThomasTCI:
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@nutrich #eltchat QR codes are little square pixelated items linked to url's and other items. You can create a code that links to a web item
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8:26 pm
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pigletruth:
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@Shaunwilden agree totally they can't stop when it's not appropriate #ELTchat
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8:26 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@cerirhiannon Oh I completely agree and use them but we need to make sure we balance out with 'exam skiills' #eltchat
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8:26 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Great question! RT @familysimpson: #eltchat should we monitor what phones are being used for in class? Do we monitor suitable pencil usage?
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8:26 pm
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nutrich:
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I think the recording - audio/ video and photo facilities are best things - cd compensate for a school's lack of resources! #ELTchat
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8:26 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: @nutrich do you think that ratio will be the same now? #eltchat > it is in my Spanish high school class - 4 in 18
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8:27 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich WOW! Kids can be isolated because they don't have the things others hafe. My 10 year old bullied me for a phone #eltchat
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8:27 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson no but I'd be a bit annoyed if they were just chatting during lessons - when lessons are paid for #eltchat
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8:27 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @nutrich: I think the recording - audio/ video and photo facilities are best things - cd compensate for a school's lack of resources! #ELTchat
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8:27 pm
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rliberni:
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@familysimpson no I think we just need to make sure nobody is disadvantaged by not having access to one #eltchat
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8:27 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon @rliberni sounds about right #eltchat
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8:27 pm
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worldteacher:
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@Shaunwilden use my own for intenet access and bringing phonemic charts etc 4 sts #eltchat. Not poss for me - no int. access at school! .
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8:27 pm
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familysimpson:
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#eltchat access to same apps on variety of devices, or access to devices themselves
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8:27 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @familysimpson: #eltchat access to same apps on variety of devices, or access to devices themselves
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8:27 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: @familysimpson no I think we just need to make sure nobody is disadvantaged by not having access to one #eltchat
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8:27 pm
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ESL_ai:
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Nice post on http://esl.about.com re: practicing conversational English on phones: http://bit.ly/h9JBqo #eltchat
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8:28 pm
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web20education:
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#Entri | Free & Simple Collaborative Document Sharing Tool #edtech20 #edtools | @scoopit http://t.co/3VczfOl #edchat #eltchat #efl #ascd11
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8:28 pm
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FlyontheCWall:
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:-) RT @shellterrell: Then you know what tools available & who has one & parents can see potential for language learning #ELTChat
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8:28 pm
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rliberni:
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@cerirhiannon @nutrich is thsi cultural i.e. they don't think they should have them in school or they just don't have them? #eltchat
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8:28 pm
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CELT_Athens:
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Is what you are teaching relevant to what your students need? #ELTchat Summary 23/03/2011 http://bit.ly/i0BNIg #ELTchat
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8:28 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish exactly why I was highlighting the issues of inadequacy! #ELTchat
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8:28 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @CELT_Athens: Is what you are teaching relevant to what your students need? #ELTchat Summary 23/03/2011 http://bit.ly/i0BNIg #ELTchat
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8:28 pm
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japglish:
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@rliberni absolutely agree - phones ARE symbols of welath, advertised as such #eltchat
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8:28 pm
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helen100463:
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RT @nutrich: I think recording - audio/ video, photo facilities are best things - compensate for school's lack of resources! #ELTchat
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8:28 pm
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harrisonmike:
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#eltchat I see 'learning' the apps a potential problem for usign smart devices in class - I might be ok wit? (cont) http://deck.ly/~fbOdv
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8:28 pm
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DrBergerAtRANDA:
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RT @Marisa_C: Summary of #ELTchat on Teacher Observation by @teacher_prix now posted on http://tinyurl.com/6fk8plt - Many thanks, Priscilla! :-)
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8:28 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat I see 'learning' the apps a potential problem for usign smart devices in class - I might be ok wit? (cont) http://deck.ly/~fbOdv
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8:28 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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You would be surprised how many young learners now have their own cell phones & often at age of around 8 #ELTChat
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8:28 pm
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uniquelanguages:
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I like the idea of @sandymillin of getting students to record and upload via mobiles.Or just record on own phone and play in class. #eltchat
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8:28 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: You would be surprised how many young learners now have their own cell phones & often at age of around 8 #ELTChat
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8:28 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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what apps are best ? #eltchat
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8:28 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich even adults get touchy about which models, how modern and make judgements abt status etc #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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nutrich:
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@ShellTerrell depends on the country though #ELTchat
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8:29 pm
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ESL_ai:
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Nice post on QR Codes in classroom with mobile phones: http://bit.ly/fYxZ1h #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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ianchia:
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McGraw-Hill's mConnect will offer vocabulary lessons via SMS, plans for Africa and Asia. http://j.mp/ePCSOT #mlearning #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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familysimpson:
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@cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden doesnt finland have exams where internet research to answer qs is the assessible element? #ELTChat
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8:29 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @japglish: @nutrich even adults get touchy about which models, how modern and make judgements abt status etc #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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rliberni:
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@nutrich ok cos in France I think they are an absolute no no in school #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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web20education:
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#Inslices :Save and share what matters! #edtech20 #edtools | @scoopit http://t.co/2HTOmVD #edchat #eltchat #elt #ascd11 #lrnchat #ukedchat
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8:29 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish yep. Adults can be even more difficult. Status can mean a lot #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @nutrich: @japglish yep. Adults can be even more difficult. Status can mean a lot #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: @japglish yep. Adults can be even more difficult. Status can mean a lot #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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@japglish but no prob in 121 #eltchat
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8:29 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@harrisonmike I think you're right because not all phones have same app available but in time I think this will be better #ELTChat
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8:30 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @pattigrayson: My 3rd graders have phones AND an iTouch! #ELTChat
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8:30 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon @rliberni no means yes! #eltchat
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8:30 pm
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harrisonmike:
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@ShellTerrell #eltchat interested that some apps are cross platform - eg pingchat and live profile as messenging services
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8:30 pm
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ayatawel:
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@ShellTerrell I guess even if we don't monitor pencil use, we have to with phones !!! #ELTchat
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8:30 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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What are your language learners favorite ways to study with their mobile devices? #ELTChat
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8:31 pm
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rliberni:
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My problem is getting students off the phone! but if they are spking English to colleagues it's gr8 for me to listen and feedback #eltchat
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8:31 pm
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cioccas:
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RT @AnneSinclair1: @japglish but no prob in 121 #eltchat < yes, mobile great for 1-2-1 teaching & learning
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8:31 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: What are your language learners favorite ways to study with their mobile devices? #ELTChat
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8:31 pm
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ayatawel:
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RT @AnneSinclair1: what apps are best ? #eltchat
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8:31 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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so which apps for 121 adults? #eltchat
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8:31 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @AnneSinclair1: so which apps for 121 adults? #eltchat
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8:31 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@sandymillin Your school doesn't have WiFi? :-( #ELTchat
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8:31 pm
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japglish:
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@ShellTerrell do you wonder if learners see their phones as learning machines? Is it OK for teachers to re-purpose #eltchat
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8:31 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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My adult learners like language podcasts, recording themselves, creating videos, search functions, & dictionaries #ELTChat
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8:31 pm
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familysimpson:
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#eltchat in reply to cost issue: mini top ups now given away in soda cans, many pupils have contract phones. There will be a solution.
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8:31 pm
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rliberni:
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I think Apps have gr8 potential but not really found any that I want to use yet #eltchat
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8:32 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @familysimpson: #eltchat in reply to cost issue: mini top ups now given away in soda cans, many pupils have contract phones. There will be a solution.
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8:32 pm
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ayatawel:
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phones are never allowed in schools here !!#ELTchat
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8:32 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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Hi.No pc access 2nite but following u.wanted to share how I used ss' mobiles for interaction between ss using chat/SMS lingo. #ELTchat
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8:32 pm
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efl101:
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @sandymillin Your school doesn't have WiFi? :-( #ELTchat > WiFi? In school? Fat chance here... #edtechfail
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8:32 pm
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theteacherjames:
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RT @rliberni: I think Apps have gr8 potential but not really found any that I want to use yet #eltchat - Me too.
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8:32 pm
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juandoming:
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Final+Countdown+%26%238211%3B+Istek+ELT+2011 http://t.co/G5b42RY vÃa @AddThis #eltchat My #pln #elearning #edchat
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8:32 pm
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rliberni:
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@worldteacher good point need to train about this #eltchat
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8:32 pm
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web20education:
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#pindax Create free online message boards for your interests and passions | @scoopit http://t.co/qvTPQ8t #eltchat #ukedchat #mspil #pelc11
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8:32 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish When teacher introduces them to the possibilities they begin 2 C the potential. My adults now like using mobile devices #ELTChat
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8:33 pm
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cioccas:
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@AnneSinclair1 best apps for 1-2-1 will depend on learner needs, but even just record & listen is great! #ELTchat
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8:33 pm
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sandymillin:
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@AnthonyGaughan Has it in a couple of classrooms. In others it's sporadic. And teach in-company w/ no access (closed system) #ELTchat
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8:33 pm
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Brian_ThomasTCI:
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a blog post on Class qr codes and devices: http://bit.ly/hNNJuy #eltchat
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8:33 pm
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juandoming:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Final Countdown ? Istek ELT 2011 http://bit.ly/fnW3wT ~ @evab2001 #eltchat
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8:33 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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If you do use apps for language learning with your students which do you use and what level? #ELTChat
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8:33 pm
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springrose12:
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@harrisonmike @shellterrell I read that ping took huge place on iPhone and discharged it quickly. #eltchat
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8:33 pm
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nutrich:
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RT @japglish: @rliberni I'm afraid I think m-learning is being overhyped #ELTchat | Like most tech the afford? (cont) http://deck.ly/~gliZr
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8:33 pm
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sandymillin:
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@AnthonyGaughan And can only use my comp. & SS laptops if they have them. 2 old PCs in staffroom. Trying tho! #ELTchat
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8:33 pm
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japglish:
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@ShellTerrell just wondering if it's like when the teacher suggests using Facebook ... kids rebel. Adults not maybe #eltchat
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8:33 pm
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harrisonmike:
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@AnthonyGaughan Did that in computer lab today! #eltchat #audacity BTW Window Sound Recorder is so clunky
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8:33 pm
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rliberni:
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@japglish I think it has gr8 potential but it's the newest thing so a big bandwagon - another potential tool #eltchat
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8:34 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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I use my laptop in every 121 lesson now #eltchat
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8:34 pm
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eannegrenoble:
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RT @theteacherjames: RT @rliberni: (..) but not really found any that I want to use yet #eltchat - Me too. and we can't give names here:(
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8:34 pm
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nutrich:
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M-learning = learn anywhere. Outside the classroom? #ELTchat
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8:34 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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@ShellTerrell Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat
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8:34 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish I've never had this problem when introducing technology to my students at any age or level but I know some teachers do #ELTChat
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8:34 pm
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TeacherLola:
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?@ShellTerrell: If you do use apps for language learning with your students which do you use and what level? #ELTChat?
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8:34 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat
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8:34 pm
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cioccas:
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RT @ShellTerrell: @japglish ... they begin 2 C the potential. My adults now like using mobile devices #ELTChat < my adults too !
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8:34 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich do learners want to learn structured things anywhere and outside classrooms? #eltchat
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8:35 pm
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springrose12:
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Agreed RT ?@rliberni: My problem is getting students off the phone! #eltchat?
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8:35 pm
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harrisonmike:
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@springrose12 You have to keep clearing the cache with ping, other apps too I think is sensible #eltchat
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8:35 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RE: What language learners like doing via mlearning RT @DinaDobrou: Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat
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8:35 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@harrisonmike Yep, Audacity much easier & more flexible 2 use. #ELTchat #audacity
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8:35 pm
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efl101:
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@AnthonyGaughan yes, govt sector adult education - teach for Ministries etc #eltchat
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8:35 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 how do your students learn? Individually or by discussing in a group? Mobile opens up discussion to all -confidence booster #eltchat
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8:35 pm
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Dingtonia:
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RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat On another note: looking forward to seeing @LukeMeddings on unplugged approaches at British Counci? (cont) http://deck.ly/~svIdT
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8:35 pm
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sandymillin:
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RT @AnneSinclair1: I use my laptop in every 121 lesson now #eltchat <I use mine in every lesson (or at least, have it w/ me)
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8:35 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: RE: What language learners like doing via mlearning RT @DinaDobrou: Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat
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8:35 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @ianchia: McGraw-Hill's mConnect will offer vocabulary lessons via SMS, plans for Africa and Asia. http://j.mp/ePCSOT #mlearning #eltchat
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8:35 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @familysimpson: @efl101 how do your students learn? Individually or by discussing in a group? Mobile opens up discussion to all -confidence booster #eltchat
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8:35 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish Depends, I suppose. Mobile = freedom, anarchic, don't need teachers or classes! Learn English on the bus! : ) #ELTchat
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8:36 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @ianchia: English in Action: Mobile Learning in Bangladesh ? National Geographic News Watch http://j.mp/hjhBPT #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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@sandymillin great!! #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson see potential, but universal access is a problem with m-learning #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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rliberni:
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@sandymillin I have problems with this they all baulk #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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nutrich:
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RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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cgoodey:
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I don't have a smartphone but think I'll have 2 C just what my phone CAN do so I'm more aware of the possibilities w/ more basic 1s #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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web20education:
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Nowadays all the students use cell phones , but we must teach them how to use mLearning technology in XXI Century Education #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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familysimpson:
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RT @bobharrisonset: 3D models created on a mobile phone?http://bit.ly/gRyAmL < timely for #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich without being facetious, do anarchists aged 14 really watn toe learn on the bus? #eltchat
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8:36 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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#eltchat laptop such a great tool for video, dictionary,etc
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8:37 pm
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efl101:
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RT @japglish: @nutrich without being facetious, do anarchists aged 14 really watn toe learn on the bus? #eltchat
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8:37 pm
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cioccas:
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RT @Shaunwilden: .... for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat < will check it out!
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8:37 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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RT @AnneSinclair1: #eltchat laptop such a great tool for video, dictionary,etc
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8:37 pm
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sandymillin:
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@rliberni Tend to find if can see what I'm doing, they don't mind. And they like web access when we have it. Thy c how it helps #eltchat
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8:37 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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#eltchat I don't have a smartphone - but beginning to feel like I need to get one !
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8:37 pm
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rliberni:
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My learners all bus ppl want quick things they can look at , note maybe listen to but not spend too much time on #eltchat
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8:37 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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RT @web20education: Nowadays all the students use cell phones , but we must teach them how to use mLearning technology in XXI Century Education #eltchat
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8:37 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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I use these apps w my Young Learners- StoryRobe, StoryKit, Talking Tom, Mouthoff, Pubppet Pals, Sticki booth, Fotobabble, Animoto #ELTChat
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8:38 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich look, am aware that I am going against the grain here, but would like longitudinal studies of anarchistic m-learning #eltchat
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8:38 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish I didn't say they were anarchists, the learning is anarchic - lack of authority #eltchat
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8:38 pm
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sandymillin:
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@nutrich @japglish Think that's true up to a point, but teacher still needed to help them start off, then join the dots #ELTchat
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8:38 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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RT @ShellTerrell: My adult learners like language podcasts, recording themselves, creating videos, search functions, & dictionaries #ELTChat
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8:38 pm
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rliberni:
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@sandymillin mine prefer time away from their laptop - 'an oasis of calm' one std called his English lesson :-) #eltchat
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8:38 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @japglish: @nutrich look, am aware that I am going against the grain here, but would like longitudinal studies of anarchistic m-learning #eltchat
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8:39 pm
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pigletruth:
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@nutrich @japglish is anarchic learning a bad thing? #ELTchat
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8:39 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish well the research would be useful certainly, I'm just saying I think the affordances point to outside the classroom #eltchat
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8:39 pm
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efl101:
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RT @rliberni: mine prefer time away from their laptop - 'an oasis of calm' one std called his English lesson :-) #eltchat > gd point
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8:39 pm
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japglish:
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@rliberni maybe right #eltchat
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8:39 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 @japglish @nutrich #eltchat would they tell their friends if they WERE learning on the bus? They are just looking at msg/app
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8:39 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @nutrich: @japglish well the research would be useful certainly, I'm just saying I think the affordances point to outside the classroom #eltchat
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8:39 pm
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TeacherLola:
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RT @web20education: Nowadays all the students use cell phones , but we must teach them how to use mLearning technology in XXI Century Education #eltchat
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8:39 pm
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jurylady:
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RT @ShellTerrell: All my learners share mobile devices! Teachers them collaboration & supports them speaking English, prob solving, sharing together #ELTChat
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8:39 pm
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nutrich:
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@pigletruth @japglish NO! I'm saying more freedom should be gained from m-learning = anarchic #eltchat
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8:39 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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but my laptop's fun! #eltchat
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8:39 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@ShellTerrell #eltchat I love photobabble app , great for homework, sts take a picture, describe it &uploa? (cont) http://deck.ly/~dNKge
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8:39 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich they do but am afraid that I am slowly becoming a connectivism-denier #eltchat
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8:40 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell #eltchat I love photobabble app , great for homework, sts take a picture, describe it &uploa? (cont) http://deck.ly/~dNKge
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8:40 pm
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Brian_ThomasTCI:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I use these apps w my Young Learners- StoryRobe, StoryKit, Talking Tom, Mouthoff, Pubppet Pals, Sticki booth, Fotobabble, Animoto #ELTChat
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8:40 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 #eltchat definitely an issue but why should it not be in place for those who have devices? It will only get more popular.
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8:40 pm
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eannegrenoble:
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RT @sandymillin: @nutrich @japglish Think that's true up to a point, but teacher still needed to help them start off, then join the dots #ELTchat
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8:40 pm
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japglish:
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@familysimpson @efl101 @nutrich reckoin the juries out on m-learning untiil somebody asks learners, studies use over time #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@efl101 True, if you do that on-site there are all kinds of security restrictions to make your life fun... #ELTchat
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8:41 pm
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cgoodey:
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RT @rliberni: @sandymillin mine prefer time away from their laptop - 'an oasis of calm' one std called his English lesson :-) #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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MahomedyHussein:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I agree! RT @nutrich: I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat
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8:41 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish Connectivism is the externally stored, shared knowledge tho' - I'm a sceptic there too #ELTchat
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8:41 pm
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sandymillin:
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@rliberni Aha - but I use my laptop. And ask them before asking them to bring in their own, if that makes sense! #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson coz my courses are career exam courses so need to be fair to all #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@japglish I think you might be right re juries out but the possibilities it brings can't be ignored #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I use these apps w my Young Learners- StoryRobe, StoryKit, Talking Tom, Mouthoff, Pubppet Pals, Sticki booth, Fotobabble, Animoto #ELTChat
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8:41 pm
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jurylady:
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RT @ianchia: English in Action: Mobile Learning in Bangladesh ? National Geographic News Watch http://j.mp/hjhBPT #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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@efl101 @rliberni my students sometimes take over my laptop! #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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This created with free StoryRobe app fr @CeciELT 's 6 yrold son in Brazil http://youtu.be/Kl5p8owr2M0 for 1 of my upcoming pres #ELTChat
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8:41 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat
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8:41 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @AnneSinclair1: @efl101 @rliberni my students sometimes take over my laptop! #eltchat > :)
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8:42 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish @familysimpson @efl101 It's context and situation dependent, like all things. #ELTchat
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8:42 pm
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efl101:
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@AnthonyGaughan aint that the truth! #eltchat
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8:42 pm
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sandymillin:
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RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat I don't have a smartphone - but beginning to feel like I need one !<have been feeling for a while. #whenI'mrich
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8:42 pm
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japglish:
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@Shaunwilden absolutely - lots of potential and I think will eventually come to replace PCs/Laptops ... but not yet #eltchat
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8:42 pm
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alhen_:
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#eltchat some like sharing their music with me, so I can play it later in class (bluetooth)
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8:42 pm
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rliberni:
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@sandymillin I do sometimes use it but mostly they say I'll look at it later half the time they're on their blackberry anyway! #eltchat
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8:42 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @alhen_: #eltchat some like sharing their music with me, so I can play it later in class (bluetooth)
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8:43 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @japglish: @Shaunwilden absolutely - lots of potential and I think will eventually come to replace PCs/Laptops ... but not yet #eltchat
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8:43 pm
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efl101:
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twitter in class anyone? #eltchat - m-learning would seem ideal for that
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8:43 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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One of the best free apps for young learners that comes w/ free lesson plans for teachers EcoBugs http://youtu.be/5JT07dBSq7k #ELTChat
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8:43 pm
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familysimpson:
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@japglish @efl101 @nutrich #eltchat that will only happen if someone uses it- are you disadvantaging students by not offering this as opt?
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8:43 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @alhen_: #eltchat some like sharing their music with me, so I can play it later in class (bluetooth)
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8:43 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich well, the liberal use of the A word there also gets me. Do students WANT autonomy? R we sure #eltchat
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8:43 pm
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nutrich:
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How does playing with a load of game-like apps aid language learning? Better than speaking? Just a provocative Q ; ) #ELTchat
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8:43 pm
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rliberni:
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@japglish I agree I think there are things we can do now but they're small & can be done other ways but in the future who knows? #eltchat
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8:44 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@Brian_ThomasTCI Me too! Can even be used offline & then later with wifi I can upload the StoryKit story w/ a private link #ELTchat
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8:44 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson fair question, perhaps not but been wary of taking that step up to now #eltchat do you use it?
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8:44 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish Do they know that it might be better for them? #eltchat
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8:44 pm
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sandymillin:
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@AnthonyGaughan Talking about security issues - what about privacy issues - especially w/ YLs? Do you have an agreement w/ parents? #ELTchat
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8:44 pm
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rliberni:
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@japglish in my experience no not really it's not always a choice but that there is no other choice #eltchat
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8:44 pm
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japglish:
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@rliberni agree Berni. Am impressed with phones as cameras and phones as recorders but not for Apps #eltchat
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8:44 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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It's with any tool, teachers need exposure to great training in order to see & implement effective use of mobile learning #ELTChat
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8:44 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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@nutrich re gaming - there's research that suggests that yes, it can aid learning - and not only languages #eltchat
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8:45 pm
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jurylady:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Great way to introduce parents to idea of having their YLs use mobile phones in class is do a phone show/tell & what it can do #ELTChat
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8:45 pm
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rliberni:
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@AnneSinclair1 that's nice I'm glad you let them #eltchat
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8:45 pm
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familysimpson:
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@cgoodey @rliberni @sandymillin mobile device = learn anywhere; why not take an english class in a drama studio/ canteen/ field? #eltchat
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8:45 pm
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nutrich:
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@familysimpson @japglish @efl101 would you be disadvantaging a disadvantaged student by highlighting their lack of expensive tech? #ELTchat
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8:45 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@nutrich If they're in English then sts have to respond and react etc #eltchat
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8:45 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Great idea! RT @familysimpson: mobile device = learn anywhere; why not take an english class in a drama studio/ canteen/ field? #eltchat
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8:45 pm
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efl101:
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@cerirhiannon @nutrich hmm, but should they be language games most of which are irredeemably dull? #eltchat
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8:45 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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I teach one -to-one adults in a language school. Mostly business Eng #eltchat
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8:46 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich or do they regard their time in lang. learning as neatly boxed into the classroom, where they want it #eltchat
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8:46 pm
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theteacherjames:
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RT @cerirhiannon: @nutrich re gaming - there's research that suggests that yes, it can aid learning - and not only languages #eltchat
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8:46 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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@nutrich Maybe good for passively learning/reviewing vocabulary and noticing structures. Can't replace speaking. #ELTchat
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8:46 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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@efl101 @nutrich no! I was referring to gaming - not language games #eltchat
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8:46 pm
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nutrich:
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@cerirhiannon yeah, I know, but I'm trying to provide some opposition to the evangelism! ; ) #ELTchat
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8:46 pm
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sandymillin:
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RT @ShellTerrell: It's with any tool, teachers need exposure to great training in order to see & implement effective use of mobile learning #ELTChat
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8:46 pm
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rliberni:
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@AnneSinclair1 I had my first computer in my class in 1984 just one and we always clustered around it (4 & 5 year olds) #eltchat
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8:46 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@AnneSinclair1 I like Newsy app & Video Vocab apps for Business English #eltchat
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8:46 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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RT @DinaDobrou: @nutrich Maybe good for passively learning/reviewing vocabulary and noticing structures. Can't replace speaking. #ELTchat
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8:47 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @DinaDobrou: @nutrich Maybe good for passively learning/reviewing vocabulary and noticing structures. Can't replace speaking. #ELTchat
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8:47 pm
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worldteacher:
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RT @ShellTerrell: It's with any tool, teachers need exposure to great training in order to see & implement effective use of mobile learning #ELTChat
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8:47 pm
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sandymillin:
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@nutrich Even post-Proficiency colleagues have learnt words from Farmville on facebook. Always something new #ELTchat
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8:47 pm
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cioccas:
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Good ideas her: Audio Apps for the iPod Touch - Handy for the Languages Classroom. http://www.technolote.com/?p=976 #ELTchat
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8:47 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 #eltchat been taking steps: online notes, used google chat/ netmeeting for grp disc in past, mobile voting, i can do better tho!
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8:47 pm
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rliberni:
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@familysimpson yes I really think that that is the point that's where we're heading but we're not there yet #eltchat
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8:47 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: @AnneSinclair1 I had first computer in lass in 1984 - we always clustered around it #eltchat > likewise all ages in 1986 :)
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8:47 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @familysimpson: @efl101 #eltchat been taking steps: online notes, used google chat/ netmeeting for grp disc in past, mobile voting, i can do better tho!
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8:47 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @cioccas: Good ideas her: Audio Apps for the iPod Touch - Handy for the Languages Classroom http://bit.ly/eCHWKO #ELTchat
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8:48 pm
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nutrich:
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@japglish I know exactly where you're coming from! I think the in between time is important though #eltchat
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8:48 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@cgoodey "OK Hans, sit over there so we can practise texting each other..." - BUT, any weirder than writing "emails?" in class? hmm #ELTchat
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8:48 pm
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familysimpson:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Great idea! RT @familysimpson: mobile device = learn anywhere; why not take an english class in a drama studio/ canteen/ field? #eltchat
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8:48 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @cgoodey "OK Hans, sit over there so we can practise texting each other..." - BUT, any weirder than writing "emails?" in class? hmm #ELTchat
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8:48 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson do students respond well to it? #eltchat
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8:49 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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@ShellTerrell #eltchat are they for mobiles or laptop?
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8:49 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: RT @cioccas: Good ideas her: Audio Apps for the iPod Touch - Handy for the Languages Classroom http://bit.ly/eCHWKO #ELTchat
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8:49 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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How I use mobile learning with language learners! There will be more updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning
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8:49 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich agree but I think we really need to recontextualise that in-between time and focus on content NOT lang learning #eltchat
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8:49 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: How I use mobile learning with language learners! There will be more updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning
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8:49 pm
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cioccas:
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Great video of using speak & repeat apps with kids learning Chinese here: http://www.technolote.com/?p=946 #ELTchat
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8:49 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 #eltchat interested: what are career exam courses? Would mobile use be a career skill in future?
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8:49 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @cioccas: Great video of using speak & repeat apps with kids learning Chinese here: http://www.technolote.com/?p=946 #ELTchat
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8:50 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@AnneSinclair1 Both http://bit.ly/gtLNSQ & http://bit.ly/PUpo8 #eltchat
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8:50 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@sandymillin I work with adults so no parents to manage, but I had a lot of fun with Works Councils and IT Depts here in Germany... #ELTchat
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8:50 pm
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japglish:
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@nutrich I mean, a kind of autonomous CLIL where Apps help translate, clarify but not for lang for its own sake #eltchat
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8:50 pm
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jurylady:
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RT @ShellTerrell: In many countries this is true & cheaper than room of computers! RT @rliberni: more mobiles in Africa than computers #eltchat
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8:50 pm
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helen100463:
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RT @ShellTerrell: How I use mobile learning with language learners! More updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning #yltsig
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8:50 pm
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theteacherjames:
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RT @ShellTerrell: @AnneSinclair1 I like Newsy app & Video Vocab apps for Business English #eltchat
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8:50 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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@ShellTerrell OK thanks will look into them #eltchat
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8:50 pm
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cgoodey:
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@AnthonyGaughan I guess it depends how much time we have with the students -5 hours a day or 2 hours a week- & make best use of it #ELTchat
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8:51 pm
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pattylouis:
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Kerpoof is good for young students. Not sure if there is an App though #ELTchat
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8:51 pm
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familysimpson:
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@nutrich @japglish @efl101 #eltchat if you highlighted it or it was the only way to learn- but this would enhance learning, not replace it
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8:51 pm
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sandymillin:
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@AnthonyGaughan What kind of problems did they cause? #ELTchat
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8:51 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson they need english for their future career/promotion etc. without it they have problems. #eltchat mobile skills? maybe
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8:51 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@AnneSinclair1 Audioboo, Woices, & 43 Things also great & have online platforms as well! #ELTChat
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8:51 pm
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TeacherLola:
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RT @ShellTerrell: How I use mobile learning with language learners! There will be more updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning
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8:51 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @cioccas: Great video of using speak & repeat apps with kids learning Chinese here: http://www.technolote.com/?p=946 #ELTchat
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8:51 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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#eltchat
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8:51 pm
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nutrich:
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I'm just adding sm Qs to the tech-loving. Context is everything. I know about research, possibilities etc, but need 2b critical! #ELTchat
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8:51 pm
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cgoodey:
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@AnthonyGaughan If it's 5 hours a day, then I some time texting & emailing is fine! #ELTchat
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8:52 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: I'm just adding sm Qs to the tech-loving. Context is everything. I know about research, possibilities etc, but need 2b critical! #ELTchat
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8:52 pm
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AnneSinclair1:
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@ShellTerrell Ok tnx again #eltchat
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8:52 pm
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jurylady:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Also mobile learning allows the learner to apply the language & vocabulary in a contextual setting & with others. Authentic! #ELTChat
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8:52 pm
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inigral:
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@ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat
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8:52 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 #eltchat yes, it allows chat history for revision and frames knowledge in their language not mine!
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8:52 pm
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TeacherLola:
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@juandoming me pregunto si estarás siguiendo el ht #ELTchat , el tema de hoy es mobile Learning y se comparten experiencias.
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8:52 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Why not have language learners learn via mobile phones when they have to use for their careers? It's not questioned there #ELTChat
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8:53 pm
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cgoodey:
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@AnthonyGaughan Though even when I was working with students 5 hours a day, I didn't have them doing this..(sorry, thinking slowly) #ELTchat
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8:53 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @inigral: @ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat
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8:54 pm
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worldteacher:
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@ShellTerrell How I use mobile learning with language learners! http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning Great link - thanks! .
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8:54 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson chat history is a good point, st can go back and review - tech never forgets ;-) #eltchat
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8:54 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@sandymillin lots of negotiations about data protection, cookies, etc (I'm a moodle admin) - all fair enough, but lengthy process #ELTchat
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8:54 pm
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rliberni:
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key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat
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8:54 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@Inigral I agree but I was suggesting that many teachers don't use mobile learning now because they haven't had the training #ELTChat
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8:54 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @Inigral: @ShellTerrell waiting for training will cause paralysis #ELTchat> experimenting & hearing/reading abt others' experiments
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8:54 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat
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8:54 pm
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efl101:
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RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat
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8:55 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Inigral: @ShellTerrell waiting for training will cause paralysis #ELTchat> experimenting & hearing/reading abt others' experiments
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8:55 pm
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nutrich:
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@rliberni Bingo! #eltchat
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8:55 pm
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theteacherjames:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Why not have language learners learn via mobile phones when they have to use for their careers? It's not questioned there #ELTChat
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8:55 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @efl101: @familysimpson chat history is a good point, st can go back and review - tech never forgets ;-) #eltchat
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8:55 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat
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8:55 pm
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EclipsingX:
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#ELTChat also noticed with learners if writing word not needed we agree phones. Research possible and quick.
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8:55 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@cgoodey very true - ring the changes (or tweet them, perhaps, these days...) #ELTchat
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8:55 pm
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rliberni:
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@cerirhiannon I agree I think with tech it's jump in and learn, re-think do again learn again etc.. #eltchat
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8:55 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 #eltchat verbal communication skills or written? Mobile devices: skype, blogs, twitter (summary skills), voice memos, evernote...
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8:55 pm
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TeacherLola:
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RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Inigral: @ShellTerrell waiting for training will cause paralysis #ELTchat> experimenting & hearing/reading abt others' experiments
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8:56 pm
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cioccas:
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RT @inigral: teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat < YES!
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8:56 pm
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rliberni:
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@nutrich two fat ladies? #eltchat
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8:56 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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I like that my Ss in habit of looking up vocab, language, etc. when they need it on their devices instead of waiting for class #ELTChat
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8:56 pm
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japglish:
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@rliberni spot on Berni ... and we need to research the outcomes, not just dive in with more expensive gear #eltchat
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8:56 pm
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nutrich:
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@rliberni Did they used to say that?! #eltchat
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8:56 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I like that my Ss in habit of looking up vocab, language, etc. when they need it on their devices instead of waiting for class #ELTChat
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8:56 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: learning must take place #eltchat > as w everything it's how/ why u use it, not jst what u use & not jst 4 the sake of it
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8:56 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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#ELTchat "I was suggesting that many teachers don't use mobile learning because they haven't had the training? (cont) http://deck.ly/~XgVYj
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8:57 pm
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rliberni:
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@ShellTerrell this is a great point - an immediate tool for getting immediate info #eltchat
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8:57 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: @cerirhiannon I agree I think with tech it's jump in and learn, re-think do again learn again etc.. #eltchat > totally!
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8:57 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 #eltchat i can still show students message group posts from 1997: embarassing for me, but good they know- internet never forgets!
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8:57 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTchat "I was suggesting that many teachers don't use mobile learning because they haven't had the training? (cont) http://deck.ly/~XgVYj
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8:57 pm
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drdjwalker:
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RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat
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8:57 pm
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EclipsingX:
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@rliberni #ELTCHAT+also teachers confidence to do it and know how
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8:57 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Difference with mobile phones is many learners have their own they just need to learn how to use for language learning #ELTChat
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8:57 pm
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familysimpson:
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RT @inigral: @ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat
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8:57 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @ShellTerrell: I like that my Ss in habit of looking up vocab, language, etc. when they need it on their devices instead of waiting for class #ELTChat
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8:57 pm
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nutrich:
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Should newly qualified teachers dive into technology use or concentrate on 'simpler' stuff first? #ELTchat
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8:58 pm
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rliberni:
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@nutrich at Bingo yes 88? #eltchat
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8:58 pm
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efl101:
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@familysimpson it'll all come back to haunt us one day! #eltchat
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8:58 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@nutrich They should have been trained to use tech thus negating your ? ;-) #ELTchat
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8:58 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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It's better we teach them with their devices they take with them then worry about waiting to provide each student with one #ELTChat
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8:58 pm
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sandymillin:
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@nutrich Think it depends on the teacher & the context. If htey feel comfortable w/ tech, why not? #ELTchat
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8:58 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @rliberni: @ShellTerrell this is gr8 point - an immediate tool for getting immediate info #eltchat > & fostering good lan learning habits
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8:58 pm
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cioccas:
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#ELTchat -ting this morning on my phone while eating breakfast - mobile learning in practice :-) this is what I'd like to pass on to ELLs
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8:58 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Difference with mobile phones is many learners have their own they just need to learn how to use for language learning #ELTChat
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8:58 pm
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juandoming:
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RT @TeacherLola: @juandoming me pregunto si estarás siguiendo el ht #ELTchat , el tema de hoy es mobile Learning y se comparten experiencias.
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8:58 pm
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rliberni:
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@EclipsingX agree confidence is key #eltchat
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8:58 pm
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efl101:
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@nutrich simpler stuff first methinks, get feel for lang teaching first then bring on the bells and whistles #eltchat
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8:58 pm
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theteacherjames:
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RT @cioccas: #ELTchat -ting this morning on my phone while eating breakfast - mobile learning in practice :-) this is what I'd like to pass on to ELLs
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8:59 pm
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nutrich:
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@Shaunwilden in a four week CELTA course? ; ) #ELTchat
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8:59 pm
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rliberni:
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@nutrich the wonder of English eh? #eltchat
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8:59 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @cioccas: #ELTchat -ting this morning on my phone while eating breakfast - mobile learning in practice :-) this is what I'd like to pass on to ELLs
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8:59 pm
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nutrich:
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@sandymillin a lot will depend on staff room support, I reckon #ELTchat
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9:00 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@nutrich Yes I try and integrate tech into all my input somewhere and encourage trainees to try #ELTchat
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9:00 pm
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familysimpson:
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@efl101 #eltchat probably: my posts were just daft 18yo stuff, nothing malicious but blogs etc may define their career = responsible use
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9:00 pm
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cioccas:
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@nutrich I'd like to see new teachers integrate tech and the simpler stuff (when & where appropriate) #ELTchat
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9:00 pm
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sandymillin:
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@nutrich That too - I'm one of the main advocates for tech in our staffrm. Other TT want to, but don't have time/know where 2 start #ELTchat
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9:00 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @Shaunwilden: @nutrich #ELTchat > agree w Shaun - tech not "harder" or "simpler" just another tool - like a CB ;)
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9:00 pm
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efl101:
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@Shaunwilden impressive! wasn't even mentioned on my course in 2001 #eltchat
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9:00 pm
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rom:
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RT @ianchia: McGraw-Hill's mConnect will offer vocabulary lessons via SMS, plans for Africa and Asia. http://j.mp/ePCSOT #mlearning #eltchat
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9:00 pm
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AnthonyGaughan:
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@shaunwilden yes, but also reluctance to use private resource for work purposes: which schools provide mobile devices for staff? #ELTchat
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9:00 pm
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juandoming:
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http://technology4kids.pbworks.com/w/page/31836983/MobileLearning Mobile #learning #elearning #eltchat #edchat #education #socialmedia
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9:00 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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RT @cioccas: RT @inigral: teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat < YES!
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9:01 pm
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nutrich:
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@efl101 Could be true! I got two opposing answers for this, did you notice?! @sandymillin #eltchat
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9:01 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @shaunwilden yes, but also reluctance to use private resource for work purposes: which schools provide mobile devices for staff? #ELTchat
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9:01 pm
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corriekelly:
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@nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat
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9:01 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @sandymillin: @nutrich If htey feel comfortable w/ tech, why not? #ELTchat >yes, comfort/familiarity are the key
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9:01 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@AnthonyGaughan Oh i wanst saying it was easy, but if the tutor shows then at least its a start #ELTchat
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9:01 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @corriekelly: @nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat
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9:01 pm
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sandymillin:
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@cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden Not "harder" or "simpler" if you're familiar with it, but faster/easier to get familiar w/ a book. #ELTchat
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9:01 pm
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Marisa_C:
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RT @cerirhiannon: RT @sandymillin: @nutrich If htey feel comfortable w/ tech, why not? #ELTchat >yes, comfort/familiarity are the key
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9:01 pm
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EclipsingX:
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@Shaunwilden agree.) but I have noticed this year learners starting to make a natural progression 2M/learning. They R leading me #ELTCHAT
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9:01 pm
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cioccas:
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RT @ShellTerrell: Diff with mobile phones is many learners have their own they just need to learn how to use for language learning #ELTChat
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9:01 pm
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efl101:
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@nutrich you pays your money you takes your choice #eltchat
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9:01 pm
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nutrich:
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@sandymillin It seems 2b normal situation! #eltchat
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9:01 pm
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sandymillin:
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RT @efl101: @Shaunwilden impressive! wasn't even mentioned on my course in 2001 #eltchat >nor mine in 2008
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9:01 pm
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familysimpson:
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@drdjwalker @rliberni fun IS learning, ask any toddler (they might not reply but they'll understand you... ;-) ) #eltchat
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9:01 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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Ss have phones & have access to lang learning if we teach vs ban. Doesn't matter if not all have same 1 if they can learn w it #ELTChat
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9:02 pm
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cioccas:
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RT @ShellTerrell: ... teach them with their devices they take with them then worry about waiting to provide each student with one #ELTChat
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9:02 pm
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japglish:
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@ShellTerrell really don't agree with this. There is a social context to having/not having a phone #eltchat
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9:02 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden faster/easier to get familiar w/ a book. #ELTchat > possibly not with younger /techier trainees
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9:02 pm
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rliberni:
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@familysimpson I agree with that but there needs to be a balance and for pure language learning not yet about the learning yet #eltchat
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9:03 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish I have not had this experience in 3 countries I've taught including really poor students #ELTChat
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9:03 pm
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nutrich:
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@corriekelly Too right. Just as long as pedagogy comes before technology! #eltchat Whose decision? Students or teachers?
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9:03 pm
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lauraahaha:
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RT @corriekelly: @nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat
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9:03 pm
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familysimpson:
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RT @Shaunwilden: @nutrich Yes I try and integrate tech into all my input somewhere and encourage trainees to try #ELTchat < forward thinking
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9:03 pm
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rliberni:
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@familysimpson with other subject areas there is much more scope maybe #eltchat
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9:03 pm
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RoderickSilva:
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RT @corriekelly: @nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat
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9:03 pm
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corriekelly:
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@familysimpson @drdjwalker @rliberni #ELTchat Universities now look for incoming freshman 2 be "more like kindergartners" in approach 2 lrng
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9:03 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish When I run into the problem my Ss don't have a cellphone then yes I can understand but hasn't been a prob yet #ELTChat
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9:03 pm
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sandymillin:
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@cerirhiannon I'm a technophile-love it! But never occured to me 2 use in class til @Shaunwilden came to school! Context-dependent #ELTchat
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9:03 pm
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cioccas:
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RT @AnthonyGaughan...reluctance to use private resource for work.. which schools provide mobile devices for staff? #ELTchat < Not mine!
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9:03 pm
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EclipsingX:
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@rliberni #ELTCHAT I would love to stick some mini cameras on learners phones and observe how they were using it for classes.
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9:03 pm
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japglish:
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@ShellTerrell I know what you are saying but I think kids, for example, are very sensitive to ownerships issues #eltchat
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9:04 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon I'm a technophile-love it! But never occured to me 2 use in class til @Shaunwilden came to school! Context-dependent #ELTchat
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9:04 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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as with ss, trainees should be allowed to use the tech they use in their day-to-day lives and explore the potential #eltchat
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9:04 pm
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sandymillin:
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@cerirhiannon "never occured to me" maybe too strong - more like, had no idea how, didn't know anyone who did it #ELTchat
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9:04 pm
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nutrich:
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Ok, we're all sold on it, but we're chatting on twitter. Many teachers don't even use social media at all. Just saying like! ; ) #ELTchat
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9:04 pm
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corriekelly:
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@nutrich #ELTchat Much lies in preservice teacher training
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9:04 pm
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familysimpson:
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RT @WomenOfHistory: If you have never made a (mobile) mistake then it means you have never tried something new< #eltchat ok adapted slightly
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9:04 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish I teach 4 to 10 year-olds & they love they can use their phones to learn. They also learn to share. #ELTChat
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9:04 pm
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rliberni:
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RT @ShellTerrell: @japglish I teach 4 to 10 year-olds & they love they can use their phones to learn. They also learn to share. #ELTChat
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9:04 pm
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nutrich:
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@corriekelly yeah and most teflers have a month of that, often only a weekend! #ELTchat
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9:05 pm
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corriekelly:
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@nutrich True that! #ELTchat
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9:05 pm
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EclipsingX:
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#ELTCHAT @rliberni also want to ask them for a demo of what a phone can do as they seem more comfortable.)
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9:05 pm
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japglish:
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@ShellTerrell my 10 year old son NOT having a phone proved to be a serious status issue for him at school #eltchat
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9:05 pm
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LucyBlakemore:
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RT @cioccas: RT @inigral: teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat < YES!
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9:05 pm
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nutrich:
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@corriekelly #ELTchat : )
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9:05 pm
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efl101:
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@nutrich true. started at new centre 2 weeks ago - 15 efl teachers, none on twitter, blogs, plns etc. - and all of them young(ish) #eltchat
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9:05 pm
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creativetallis:
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RT @inigral: @ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat
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9:05 pm
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DinaDobrou:
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That's it 4 me. I'm out. Sorry but my eyes r killing me. Nice to have attended this particular #ELTchat on a mobile device tho. ;)
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9:05 pm
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SamGliksman:
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Pedagogy comes before technology but tech. is also changing educational objectives... We're graduating students into new societies #ELTchat
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9:06 pm
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sandymillin:
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Anyone noticed we've gone 5 minutes over? ;) Off to bed for long day tomorrow. Great ideas! #eltchat
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9:06 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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As our hour is up did we decide on any best practices and tips,? #ELTchat
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9:06 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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@sandymillin tutored a grp of young trainees from US a few yrs back on Trinity Cert - all had laptops - all used 'em in classes #eltchat
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9:06 pm
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nutrich:
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@efl101 Sounds familiar! ; ) #eltchat
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9:06 pm
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rliberni:
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OK got to run really enjoyable chat today thnx as ever to gr8 moderators @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden permanently plugged in :-) #eltchat
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9:06 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish Is the phone used for learning & are they encouraged to share the phone. My students will share one phone in groups of 5 #ELTchat
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9:06 pm
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cioccas:
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Having so much fun mlearning on #ELTchat this morning that I'm now running late for work! Thanks everyone!
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9:06 pm
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familysimpson:
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@rliberni @drdjwalker #eltchat balance could be a well planned mobile assessment that is enjoyable & motivating?
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9:06 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish I think the teacher has to address the culture. It becomes an issue if school doesn't teach #ELTChat
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9:06 pm
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sandymillin:
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@cerirhiannon Depends on your tutors too - even as recently as 2008 no tech at all on my CELTA #eltchat
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9:07 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @nutrich: Many teachers don't even use social media at all. Just saying like! ; ) #ELTchat > always a gd pt :)
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9:07 pm
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japglish:
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@ShellTerrell what I mean here is that once a single phone is introduced, everybody must have them. Not all parents can afford #eltchat
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9:07 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @Shaunwilden: As our hour is up did we decide on any best practices and tips,? #ELTchat
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9:07 pm
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rliberni:
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@EclipsingX would be a great way to see how we should be exloiting its use with stds #eltchat
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9:07 pm
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nutrich:
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RT @efl101: true. started at new centre 2 weeks ago - 15 efl teachers, none on twitter, blogs, plns etc. - all of them young(ish) #eltchat
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9:07 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish This hasn't been the case with the classes I've taught but I do teach collaboration & bring my own in case #ELTchat
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9:07 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @efl101: @nutrich 15 efl teachers, none on twitter, blogs, plns etc. - and all of them young(ish) #eltchat > prob´ly got smartphones tho
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9:07 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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Any summary volunteers? #ELTchat
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9:08 pm
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familysimpson:
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@rliberni #eltchat i find it easier to see links for new tech with other subjects than my own (computing) because it is about the tech...
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9:08 pm
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LucyBlakemore:
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RT @SamGliksman: Pedagogy comes before technology but tech. is also changing educational objectives... We're graduating students into new societies #ELTchat
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9:08 pm
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japglish:
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@ShellTerrell that sounds very sensible. I think ideally, a class set of tablets would take away the prob .... #eltchat
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9:08 pm
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EclipsingX:
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@nutrich very true.) But learners do. They should be the ones teaching teachers. I am sure they have GR8 ideas.)#ELTCHAT
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9:08 pm
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rliberni:
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@familysimpson true that might work - I've been using mobiles with stds since 2006 so I am converted - think we shld b doing more #eltchat
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9:09 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@japglish I don't have a class set I bring my own & because we share they have no issues. I only do collaborative lessons not 1:1 #ELTChat
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9:09 pm
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worldteacher:
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Thanks for all the great links & tips - I've learned a lot & I've got a lot of reading to do! Thanks everyone on #eltchat
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9:09 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @Shaunwilden: Any summary volunteers? #ELTchat
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9:09 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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Apologies for time mess ups today, I think (and fingers crossed i'm not wrong) we're using london time for #ELTchat so 12 and 9 BST not GMT
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9:09 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @Shaunwilden: Apologies for time mess ups today, I think (and fingers crossed i'm not wrong) we're using london time for #ELTchat so 12 and 9 BST not GMT
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9:09 pm
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familysimpson:
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@corriekelly @drdjwalker @rliberni #eltchat agree, big fan of #gbl too- converging to allow true individualised lifelong learning- exciting
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9:09 pm
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nutrich:
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So, m-learning has great potential, but must be based on sound pedagogy, focused on the learners and correct for the context, no? #ELTchat
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9:09 pm
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cerirhiannon:
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RT @sandymillin: Depends on tutors 2 - 2008 no tech at all on my CELTA #eltchat> agree often tutors not comfortable w the tech ;)
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9:09 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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@efl101 I like your new pic! #ELTChat
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9:10 pm
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ShellTerrell:
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RT @nutrich: So, m-learning has great potential, but must be based on sound pedagogy, focused on the learners and correct for the context, no? #ELTchat
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9:10 pm
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Shaunwilden:
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@nutrich Nice summarising tweet :-) #ELTchat
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