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How do you use mobile devices in the classroom - Tips, apps, best practices

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This is the transcript of the eltchat at 9pm BST on 30.03.2011

 

8:08 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @Shaunwilden: The topic is How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices #ELTchat

8:08 pm

rliberni:

OK Welcome to #eltchat How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices

8:09 pm

sandymillin:

What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition

8:09 pm

ShellTerrell:

Apparently everyone has drank wine before the #ELTChat today we're getting started now!

8:09 pm

Fuertesun:

RT @sandymillin: What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition

8:09 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @sandymillin: What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition

8:09 pm

web20education:

RT @rliberni: OK Welcome to #eltchat How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices

8:09 pm

juandoming:

RT @ShellTerrell: Apparently everyone has drank wine before the #ELTChat today we're getting started now!

8:09 pm

efl101:

RT @sandymillin: What are mobile devices? #eltchat Are they only phones? Or do cameras and camcorders count too? Not sure of the definition

8:09 pm

nutrich:

@sandymillin #ELTchat good Q - laptops?!

8:09 pm

cerirhiannon:

#eltchat I'd taken it to mean smartphones - something with internet access - is that too narrow?

8:10 pm

ShellTerrell:

What are characteristics you associate with mobile learning? #Eltchat

8:10 pm

rliberni:

@ShellTerrell Lol that's why nobody is around they're all now on the floor #eltchat :-)

8:10 pm

Fuertesun:

@ShellTerrell new and shiny #Eltchat

8:10 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@sandymillin I'd say any electronic thingie that works without being plugged in to the mains - but maybe I'm behind the times ;-) #eltchat

8:10 pm

ShellTerrell:

I believe it's portable, involves learning anywhere anytime, & involves the learning taking charge of the content #ELTChat

8:11 pm

cerirhiannon:

#eltchat I think there's a difference between using handheld devices in the classroom and mlearning?

8:11 pm

nutrich:

@ShellTerrell small, portable, often sneakily used by ss when the T isn't looking! #ELTchat

8:11 pm

sandymillin:

@cerirhiannon Don't know if it's only smartphones. Because if it is a lot of my students are out - don't think many have access #eltchat

8:11 pm

rliberni:

Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat

8:11 pm

alicemercer:

@rliberni clicker to contol my computer, and have kids add to class chart , recording of discussions, documenting w/photos #eltchat

8:11 pm

rliberni:

RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon Don't know if it's only smartphones. Because if it is a lot of my students are out - don't think many have access #eltchat

8:11 pm

rliberni:

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat I think there's a difference between using handheld devices in the classroom and mlearning?

8:11 pm

rliberni:

RT @nutrich: @ShellTerrell small, portable, often sneakily used by ss when the T isn't looking! #ELTchat

8:11 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon I'd say. I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat

8:11 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat > v limited use - not many ss have smartphones

8:12 pm

Fuertesun:

@rliberni no #eltchat

8:12 pm

efl101:

@rliberni students use them as dictionaries, reference portals etc. but don't often integrate them into lesson myself #eltchat

8:12 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @nutrich: @cerirhiannon I'd say. I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat

8:12 pm

sandymillin:

RT @Fuertesun: @rliberni no #eltchat <me neither

8:12 pm

ShellTerrell:

@nutrich Ah but it doesn't have to be sneakily used if we integrate in schools #Eltchat

8:12 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon @rliberni also what about ss having a variety of phones, i.e. iphone or android - different apps #ELTchat

8:12 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat > yeah, thought maybe the waters were getting a bit muddied ;)

8:12 pm

ShellTerrell:

I agree! RT @nutrich: I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat

8:12 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat I think there's a difference between using handheld devices in the classroom and mlearning?

8:12 pm

rliberni:

How do we feel about using them? #eltchat

8:12 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @rliberni: Does anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat

8:12 pm

nutrich:

@ShellTerrell yeah, I know, reveal the secrets! #ELTchat

8:12 pm

Marisa_C:

Hi Everyone ! Sorry to be late - confused again abt the time :-( #ELTchat

8:12 pm

sandymillin:

@ShellTerrell @rliberni So which definition are we going with? #ELTchat

8:12 pm

Fuertesun:

@rliberni don't know how #eltchat

8:13 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @rliberni: Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat I got my sts to look things up on them s/times

8:13 pm

efl101:

RT @rliberni: How do we feel about using them? #eltchat good question, not sure sometimes good sometimes a distraction

8:13 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: How do we feel about using them? #eltchat > in current conterxt using them is "illicit" 'cos of school rules - but we still do

8:13 pm

newmanswords:

RT @ShellTerrell: I agree! RT @nutrich: I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat

8:13 pm

nutrich:

I've only encouraged use of them for dictionary apps #ELTchat

8:13 pm

harrisonmike:

@ShellTerrell #eltchat I do! I photograph the board. My students told me off for using my mobile in class: ? (cont) http://deck.ly/~nhkNo

8:13 pm

fboss:

@sandymillin Some cameras use SD cards that can also capture geo-location info as well - this is definitely a mobile device #eltchat

8:13 pm

rliberni:

@sandymillin I think it can be both using with stds in the classroom or using as a learning tool by themselves #eltchat

8:13 pm

NikkiFortova:

RT @rliberni: Dies anybody use mobile phones or smart phones in their classroom? #eltchat my Ss sometimes use them as a dictionary

8:14 pm

Shaunwilden:

How do we feel about using them? I'd say why not we use them in life, well I do all the time #ELTchat

8:14 pm

rliberni:

RT @fboss: @sandymillin Some cameras use SD cards that can also capture geo-location info as well - this is definitely a mobile device #eltchat

8:14 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: I've only encouraged use of them for dictionary apps #ELTchat > yes, and looking up footie scores in English ;)

8:14 pm

rliberni:

RT @Shaunwilden: How do we feel about using them? I'd say why not we use them in life, well I do all the time #ELTchat

8:14 pm

springrose12:

@ShellTerrell I asked my year 11 group to use their mobile phones to shoot their short films. They'll bring the clips next week #eltchat

8:14 pm

nutrich:

@harrisonmike @ShellTerrell Oh yeah! I've done that too and got ss to do it also #ELTchat

8:14 pm

ShellTerrell:

Agree! RT @Shaunwilden: How do we feel about using them? I'd say why not we use them in life, well I do all the time #ELTchat

8:14 pm

rliberni:

RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell I asked my year 11 group to use their mobile phones to shoot their short films. They'll bring the clips next week #eltchat

8:14 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon that's just me! ; ) #ELTchat

8:14 pm

Fuertesun:

Call me a luddite but is this taking shiny technology too far? #eltchat

8:14 pm

eannegrenoble:

RT @efl101: students use them as dictionaries, - SnaPanda is great on androids #eltchat @shaunwilden @nutrich

8:14 pm

alhen_:

my students simply don't have them #eltchat #bolivia

8:14 pm

efl101:

problem is not all sts have smart phones so fairness/equal access issues arise #eltchat

8:14 pm

ShellTerrell:

Cool! RT @springrose12: I asked my year 11 group to use their mobile phones to shoot their short films. They'll bring clips next wk #eltchat

8:14 pm

Fuertesun:

RT @efl101: RT @rliberni: How do we feel about using them? #eltchat good question, not sure sometimes good sometimes a distraction

8:14 pm

cerirhiannon:

#eltchat use them for sharing and taking photos - most phones have cameras - and videos too a possibility

8:14 pm

rliberni:

Do any of your schools have a banning policy? #eltchat

8:15 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @efl101: problem is not all sts have smart phones so fairness/equal access issues arise #eltchat

8:15 pm

harrisonmike:

#ELTchat Found out that mine overrely on translation dictionary apps, not really helping lang devt IMO RT @nut? (cont) http://deck.ly/~PIsci

8:15 pm

ShellTerrell:

Probably most unfortunately! :( RT @rliberni: Do any of your schools have a banning policy? #eltchat

8:15 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: @cerirhiannon that's just me! ; ) #ELTchat > nah, my high school ss were doing just that last class ;) - as part of lesson

8:15 pm

nutrich:

here we go - spam coming my way - beware mentioning brand names! #ELTchat

8:15 pm

uniquelanguages:

Keep forgetting about this. Hi. #ELTchat Occasionally use it but the ideal would be an ipad/tablet computer.

8:15 pm

helen100463:

@harrisonmike #eltchat I can use my phone in class but pupils can't - so we huddle !

8:15 pm

AnneSinclair1:

hi I think laptops too count as mobile devices #eltchat

8:15 pm

efl101:

@rliberni no banning policy but no encouragement either #eltchat

8:15 pm

Shaunwilden:

I had a row with my sister, a school tch cos her sts used phones to google, I said well done 2 them she said they were cheating #eltchat

8:15 pm

rliberni:

RT @helen100463: @harrisonmike #eltchat I can use my phone in class but pupils can't - so we huddle !

8:15 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon good stuff! #eltchat

8:15 pm

ShellTerrell:

I use mobile phones, digital cameras to collect photos, video, & audio when we do scavenger hunts with my YLs #Eltchat

8:15 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@Shaunwilden considering skype, flatrates etc. I don't get why teachers just get students to sit back to back for telephoning.. #ELTchat

8:16 pm

rliberni:

RT @Shaunwilden: I had a row with my sister, a school tch cos her sts used phones to google, I said well done 2 them she said they were cheating #eltchat

8:16 pm

juandoming:

RT @web20education: Best #iPhone #iPad #ipod Apps in #education #Appolicious #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://t.co/o5nQZwh #eltchat #ascd11

8:16 pm

rliberni:

RT @web20education: Best #iPhone #iPad #ipod Apps in #education #Appolicious #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://t.co/o5nQZwh #eltchat #ascd11

8:16 pm

theteacherjames:

#eltchat Even when I taught in technocentric Korea not everyone had smartphones.

8:16 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: I use mobile phones, digital cameras to collect photos, video, & audio when we do scavenger hunts with my YLs #Eltchat

8:16 pm

rliberni:

RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Even when I taught in technocentric Korea not everyone had smartphones.

8:16 pm

lolonagi:

#ELTchat has not started, but ppl are excited ;-)

8:16 pm

ayatawel:

hello everyone !! what's our topic tronight? #ELTchat

8:16 pm

Fuertesun:

@rliberni yes no phones in my schools #eltchat

8:16 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @AnthonyGaughan: @Shaunwilden considering skype, flatrates etc. I don't get why teachers just get students to sit back to back for telephoning.. #ELTchat

8:16 pm

cerirhiannon:

@harrisonmike re translation apps - good to use them to highlight the problems - as with google translator on laptops/IWB #eltchat

8:16 pm

nutrich:

Phone memory can now hold quite a lot of stuff and audio/ video recordings are easy #ELTchat

8:16 pm

fboss:

RT @ShellTerrell: I use mobile phones, digital cameras to collect photos, video, & audio when we do scavenger hunts with my YLs #Eltchat

8:16 pm

sandymillin:

RT @efl101: problem is not all sts have smart phones so fairness/equal access issues arise #eltchat

8:16 pm

efl101:

RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Even when I taught in technocentric Korea not everyone had smartphones. - the day will come ;-)

8:17 pm

ShellTerrell:

Recently taught this summer refugees at @Marisa_C 's CELTA course & all had mobile phones. I think they're more common now #ELTChat

8:17 pm

eannegrenoble:

RT @nutrich: here we go - spam coming my way - beware mentioning brand names! #ELTchat - hope that wasn't me :-(

8:17 pm

sandymillin:

#eltchat Actually, my SS use their phones to take pics of board and for dictionaries. I've never encouraged them

8:17 pm

helen100463:

RT @Fuertesun: @rliberni yes no phones in my schools #eltchat Me too :((

8:17 pm

Fuertesun:

@harrisonmike yes I remember when those translator machines first came out! agh #ELTchat

8:17 pm

rliberni:

In Japan they give stds iPhones in some universities to get work sent to them, check attendance, deadlines etc.. #eltchat

8:17 pm

web20education:

It?s finally here: the OFFICIAL Vimeo for #iPhone, #iPod #iPad #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://bit.ly/fbSrxZ #eltchat

8:17 pm

rliberni:

RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Actually, my SS use their phones to take pics of board and for dictionaries. I've never encouraged them

8:17 pm

efl101:

anyone use ipads? #eltchat

8:17 pm

rliberni:

RT @web20education: It?s finally here: the OFFICIAL Vimeo for #iPhone, #iPod #iPad #edtech20 #mlearning #slide2learn | @scoopit http://bit.ly/fbSrxZ #eltchat

8:17 pm

theteacherjames:

@efl101 #eltchat Sure, it almost is there.

8:17 pm

sandymillin:

#eltchat But I do use my camera a lot - photos of board, activities, things to remember...

8:17 pm

springrose12:

@ShellTerrell I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat

8:17 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: Phone memory can now hold quite a lot of stuff and audio/ video recordings are easy #ELTchat

8:18 pm

Shaunwilden:

for those just joining the topic is How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices #ELTchat

8:18 pm

rliberni:

RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat

8:18 pm

sandymillin:

@rliberni That should have said "I've never encouraged them explicitly to do this" #eltchat

8:18 pm

nutrich:

RT @springrose12: @ShellTerrell I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat

8:18 pm

ShellTerrell:

Best ways to use mobile phones for anguage learning involves audio/image/video recording, & sms features common to most phones now #ELTChat

8:18 pm

Brian_ThomasTCI:

@ShellTerrell you can create QR codes of things you want students to find on scavenging using mobile devices. Very fun. #eltchat

8:18 pm

cerirhiannon:

#eltchat taight grou`p of young professional adults in southern Spain NO-ONE had a smartphone :(

8:18 pm

rliberni:

@sandymillin that's interesting cos it's entirely their preference should tell us sthing #eltchat

8:18 pm

ShellTerrell:

Great idea! RT @springrose12: I used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat

8:18 pm

lolonagi:

@Shaunwilden but we still have more time 2 start #eltchat

8:18 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: you can create QR codes of things you want students to find on scavenging using mobile devices. Very fun. #eltchat

8:18 pm

rliberni:

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat taight grou`p of young professional adults in southern Spain NO-ONE had a smartphone :(

8:19 pm

AnneSinclair1:

voice recorders? #eltchat

8:19 pm

efl101:

RT @Brian_ThomasTCI: you can create QR codes of things you want students to find on scavenging using mobile devices. #eltchat >nice

8:19 pm

nutrich:

@Brian_ThomasTCI @ShellTerrell what are QR codes? #ELTchat

8:19 pm

sandymillin:

@rliberni Admittedly, most of the ones who use their phones work for a tech company! #eltchat

8:19 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @sandymillin: #eltchat my SS use their phones to take pics of board and for dictionaries. > nice, pics of board, of course!

8:19 pm

rliberni:

@cerirhiannon mt std last week had phone on all the time but didn't want to use for lessons except dictionary #eltchat

8:19 pm

sandymillin:

@AnthonyGaughan Would love to use Skype, but no net access! #ELTchat

8:19 pm

helen100463:

@ShellTerrell used my mobile phone to record their speaking and post to posterous site from class #ELTchat

8:19 pm

rliberni:

RT @sandymillin: @rliberni Admittedly, most of the ones who use their phones work for a tech company! #eltchat

8:19 pm

SENACDAEVilleta:

RT @ShellTerrell: Best ways to use mobile phones for anguage learning involves audio/image/video recording, & sms features common to most phones now #ELTChat

8:19 pm

worldteacher:

No mobile devices allowed in our classrooms, I'm afraid - have used them on field trips, though. #eltchat

8:19 pm

cgoodey:

Most of my ESOL learners have a phone but many just have a very basic/hand-me-down model! Use them to text reminders/cancellations #eltchat

8:19 pm

ShellTerrell:

Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat

8:19 pm

efl101:

@nutrich those little square bar code thingummyjigs #eltchat

8:20 pm

rliberni:

@helen100463 that's a great use! #eltchat

8:20 pm

web20education:

@ischooladvocate launches Donate to Educate to put more #iPad in the classroom http://bit.ly/eJ0QJQ #cosn11 #edtech20 #edreform #eltchat

8:20 pm

ayatawel:

@Shaunwilden what's exactly meant by mobile devices?#ELTchat

8:20 pm

ShellTerrell:

Awesome! RT @helen100463: used my mobile phone to record their speaking and post to posterous site from class #ELTchat

8:20 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat

8:20 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @cgoodey: Most of my ESOL learners have a phone but many just have a very basic/hand-me-down model! Use them to text reminders/cancellations #eltchat

8:20 pm

nutrich:

Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat

8:20 pm

NikkiFortova:

RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat

8:20 pm

sandymillin:

RT @Shaunwilden: for those just joining the topic is How do you use mobile devices in the classroom? Tips, apps & best practices #ELTchat

8:20 pm

AnneSinclair1:

RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat

8:20 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @sandymillin: #eltchat photos of board, activities, things to remember... >me too, but usually use camera - so last decade ;)

8:20 pm

nutrich:

@efl101 ok cheers. Not really got into any of that scanning malarkey yet! #ELTchat

8:20 pm

rliberni:

@ShellTerrell yea this is my feeling my slogan 'all your learning in your pocket' #eltchat

8:20 pm

eannegrenoble:

yeah or give them a model RT@springrose12: I also used my mobile phone to record their speaking and made them listen to themselves #ELTchat

8:20 pm

cherrylkd:

#eltchat @djmott used smart phone to upload observed lesson straight to twitter for feedback from PLN for ch and uni observer. V impressive

8:21 pm

efl101:

photo diary and present is good, most phones have cameras #eltchat

8:21 pm

rliberni:

RT @cgoodey: Most of my ESOL learners have a phone but many just have a very basic/hand-me-down model! Use them to text reminders/cancellations #eltchat

8:21 pm

sandymillin:

@cerirhiannon I use my camera too. phone was cheapest in shop - no camera on it! #eltchat

8:21 pm

worldteacher:

@efl101 anyone use ipads? #eltchat Only my own &, like someone else said, we huddle!!

8:21 pm

ShellTerrell:

Great slogan! RT @rliberni: yea this is my feeling my slogan 'all your learning in your pocket' #eltchat

8:21 pm

rliberni:

@cgoodey can use sms I do mostly sms it's easy and still has value #eltchat

8:21 pm

Shaunwilden:

@ayatawel seems it has to be portable from smart phones to cameras, if you look at tweets from around 20 mins ago people discussed #eltchat

8:21 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: Recently taught this summer refugees at @Marisa_C 's CELTA course & all had mobile phones. I think they're more common now #ELTChat

8:21 pm

ESL_ai:

RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient,... #ELTChat | +1

8:21 pm

MahomedyHussein:

RT @ShellTerrell: I believe it's portable, involves learning anywhere anytime, & involves the learning taking charge of the content #ELTChat

8:22 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat

8:22 pm

eannegrenoble:

good one RT @helen100463: @ShellTerrell used my mobile phone to record their speaking and post to posterous site from class #ELTchat

8:22 pm

ShellTerrell:

Also mobile learning allows the learner to apply the language & vocabulary in a contextual setting & with others. Authentic! #ELTChat

8:22 pm

rliberni:

@ShellTerrell more mobiles in Africa than computers #eltchat

8:22 pm

fionamau:

RT @nutrich: Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat

8:22 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: Also mobile learning allows the learner to apply the language & vocabulary in a contextual setting & with others. Authentic! #ELTChat

8:22 pm

springrose12:

@ShellTerrell problem is mobile phones are not allowed in school because of cyber bullying risks so I have to use mine #eltchat

8:22 pm

Shaunwilden:

@worldteacher I use my own for intenet access and bringing phonemic charts etc 4 sts #eltchat

8:22 pm

ShellTerrell:

In many countries this is true & cheaper than room of computers! RT @rliberni: more mobiles in Africa than computers #eltchat

8:22 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon I use my camera too. phone was cheapest in shop - no camera on it! #eltchat > LOL!

8:22 pm

jurylady:

RT @ShellTerrell: Recently taught this summer refugees at @Marisa_C 's CELTA course & all had mobile phones. I think they're more common now #ELTChat

8:22 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @nutrich: Get ss to take photos of stuff for hwk, bring to class, show them to a partner and chat about them #ELTchat

8:22 pm

rliberni:

What other barriers exist to using mobile phones? #eltchat

8:22 pm

cgoodey:

@rliberni True! I've used sms between sessions for information but not in class #eltchat

8:23 pm

ShellTerrell:

@springrose12 I use mine too! #ELTChat

8:23 pm

familysimpson:

RT @ShellTerrell: Mobile phones allow students to carry the learning in their pocket & study when convenient, 5 min on bus, while in line, etc. #ELTChat

8:23 pm

nutrich:

@rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat

8:23 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat

8:23 pm

efl101:

RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat > or simply don't have them

8:23 pm

rliberni:

@cgoodey I send out alerts and things to my site members #eltchat

8:23 pm

ShellTerrell:

Great way to introduce parents to idea of having their YLs use mobile phones in class is do a phone show/tell & what it can do #ELTChat

8:23 pm

rliberni:

@nutrich @efl101 would they share? #eltchat

8:23 pm

nutrich:

@efl101 @rliberni Yeah, and don't like them! #eltchat

8:23 pm

AnneSinclair1:

#eltchat@nutrich I have adult sts so all have mobile phones

8:24 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them and feel left out? #ELTchat > good point -about 4 students out of 18 have'em here

8:24 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: Great way to introduce parents to idea of having their YLs use mobile phones in class is do a phone show/tell & what it can do #ELTChat

8:24 pm

web20education:

I am passionate #iphone #ipad I made a #Mlearning topic http://www.scoop.it/t/mlearningusingiphone-ipad-ipod-web20education/ Join #eltchat

8:24 pm

ShellTerrell:

Then you know what tools available & who has one & parents can see potential for language learning #ELTChat

8:24 pm

stumpteacher:

RT @Shaunwilden: I had a row with my sister, a school tch cos her sts used phones to google, I said well done 2 them she said they were cheating #eltchat

8:24 pm

Shaunwilden:

@rliberni One barrier is if all sts have them or have the same capabilities on them #eltchat

8:24 pm

nutrich:

@rliberni @efl101 well yeah, but for YLs particularly maybe there cd be issues of feeling inadequate #ELTchat

8:24 pm

fionamau:

RT @efl101: RT @nutrich: @rliberni what if some ss can't afford them? #ELTchat > or simply don't have them ? (cont) http://deck.ly/~LOx7T

8:24 pm

nutrich:

RT @Shaunwilden: @rliberni One barrier is if all sts have them or have the same capabilities on them #eltchat

8:24 pm

efl101:

@rliberni possibly, but not being able to guarantee everyone access causes problems integrating m-learning into lesson #eltchat

8:24 pm

rliberni:

What about the cost? #eltchat

8:24 pm

cerirhiannon:

@nutrich @rliberni smartphones I mean (4 out of 18) #eltchat

8:24 pm

NikkiFortova:

RT @efl101: @rliberni possibly, but not being able to guarantee everyone access causes problems integrating m-learning into lesson #eltchat

8:24 pm

cgoodey:

@rliberni That's a good idea. #eltchat

8:25 pm

Shaunwilden:

Another would be sts thinking they can use their phone carte blanche, there will be times when you dont want them on them #eltchat

8:25 pm

ShellTerrell:

All my learners share mobile devices! Teachers them collaboration & supports them speaking English, prob solving, sharing together #ELTChat

8:25 pm

Shaunwilden:

A third would be it's not so good for exam classes, they cant use them in exams #eltchat

8:25 pm

rliberni:

@fionamau @nutrich @efl101 @cerirhiannon yes need to be sensitive #eltchat

8:25 pm

familysimpson:

@rliberni #eltchat should we monitor what phones are being used for in class? Do we monitor suitable pencil usage?

8:25 pm

pigletruth:

kids are addicted to phones but skype is great for adult sts #ELTchat

8:25 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: All my learners share mobile devices! Teachers them collaboration & supports them speaking English, prob solving, sharing together #ELTChat

8:25 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon @rliberni yep. In Spain last year I had one st in a class of 12 16 yr olds who owned one #ELTchat

8:25 pm

rliberni:

RT @familysimpson: @rliberni #eltchat should we monitor what phones are being used for in class? Do we monitor suitable pencil usage?

8:25 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @Shaunwilden: not so good for exam classes, they cant use them in exams #eltchat > tho still good for recording and using images

8:26 pm

AnneSinclair1:

how do you use skype? #eltchat

8:26 pm

sandymillin:

Have encouraged SS to record themselves at home on phone, email to me, I upload, e.g. http://bit.ly/f6BSwg (comments welcome!) #eltchat

8:26 pm

rliberni:

@nutrich do you think that ratio will be the same now? #eltchat

8:26 pm

Brian_ThomasTCI:

@nutrich #eltchat QR codes are little square pixelated items linked to url's and other items. You can create a code that links to a web item

8:26 pm

pigletruth:

@Shaunwilden agree totally they can't stop when it's not appropriate #ELTchat

8:26 pm

Shaunwilden:

@cerirhiannon Oh I completely agree and use them but we need to make sure we balance out with 'exam skiills' #eltchat

8:26 pm

ShellTerrell:

Great question! RT @familysimpson: #eltchat should we monitor what phones are being used for in class? Do we monitor suitable pencil usage?

8:26 pm

nutrich:

I think the recording - audio/ video and photo facilities are best things - cd compensate for a school's lack of resources! #ELTchat

8:26 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: @nutrich do you think that ratio will be the same now? #eltchat > it is in my Spanish high school class - 4 in 18

8:27 pm

japglish:

@nutrich WOW! Kids can be isolated because they don't have the things others hafe. My 10 year old bullied me for a phone #eltchat

8:27 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson no but I'd be a bit annoyed if they were just chatting during lessons - when lessons are paid for #eltchat

8:27 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @nutrich: I think the recording - audio/ video and photo facilities are best things - cd compensate for a school's lack of resources! #ELTchat

8:27 pm

rliberni:

@familysimpson no I think we just need to make sure nobody is disadvantaged by not having access to one #eltchat

8:27 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon @rliberni sounds about right #eltchat

8:27 pm

worldteacher:

@Shaunwilden use my own for intenet access and bringing phonemic charts etc 4 sts #eltchat. Not poss for me - no int. access at school! .

8:27 pm

familysimpson:

#eltchat access to same apps on variety of devices, or access to devices themselves

8:27 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @familysimpson: #eltchat access to same apps on variety of devices, or access to devices themselves

8:27 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: @familysimpson no I think we just need to make sure nobody is disadvantaged by not having access to one #eltchat

8:27 pm

ESL_ai:

Nice post on http://esl.about.com re: practicing conversational English on phones: http://bit.ly/h9JBqo #eltchat

8:28 pm

web20education:

#Entri | Free & Simple Collaborative Document Sharing Tool #edtech20 #edtools | @scoopit http://t.co/3VczfOl #edchat #eltchat #efl #ascd11

8:28 pm

FlyontheCWall:

:-) RT @shellterrell: Then you know what tools available & who has one & parents can see potential for language learning #ELTChat

8:28 pm

rliberni:

@cerirhiannon @nutrich is thsi cultural i.e. they don't think they should have them in school or they just don't have them? #eltchat

8:28 pm

CELT_Athens:

Is what you are teaching relevant to what your students need? #ELTchat Summary 23/03/2011 http://bit.ly/i0BNIg #ELTchat

8:28 pm

nutrich:

@japglish exactly why I was highlighting the issues of inadequacy! #ELTchat

8:28 pm

rliberni:

RT @CELT_Athens: Is what you are teaching relevant to what your students need? #ELTchat Summary 23/03/2011 http://bit.ly/i0BNIg #ELTchat

8:28 pm

japglish:

@rliberni absolutely agree - phones ARE symbols of welath, advertised as such #eltchat

8:28 pm

helen100463:

RT @nutrich: I think recording - audio/ video, photo facilities are best things - compensate for school's lack of resources! #ELTchat

8:28 pm

harrisonmike:

#eltchat I see 'learning' the apps a potential problem for usign smart devices in class - I might be ok wit? (cont) http://deck.ly/~fbOdv

8:28 pm

DrBergerAtRANDA:

RT @Marisa_C: Summary of #ELTchat on Teacher Observation by @teacher_prix now posted on http://tinyurl.com/6fk8plt - Many thanks, Priscilla! :-)

8:28 pm

rliberni:

RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat I see 'learning' the apps a potential problem for usign smart devices in class - I might be ok wit? (cont) http://deck.ly/~fbOdv

8:28 pm

ShellTerrell:

You would be surprised how many young learners now have their own cell phones & often at age of around 8 #ELTChat

8:28 pm

uniquelanguages:

I like the idea of @sandymillin of getting students to record and upload via mobiles.Or just record on own phone and play in class. #eltchat

8:28 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: You would be surprised how many young learners now have their own cell phones & often at age of around 8 #ELTChat

8:28 pm

AnneSinclair1:

what apps are best ? #eltchat

8:28 pm

japglish:

@nutrich even adults get touchy about which models, how modern and make judgements abt status etc #eltchat

8:29 pm

nutrich:

@ShellTerrell depends on the country though #ELTchat

8:29 pm

ESL_ai:

Nice post on QR Codes in classroom with mobile phones: http://bit.ly/fYxZ1h #eltchat

8:29 pm

ianchia:

McGraw-Hill's mConnect will offer vocabulary lessons via SMS, plans for Africa and Asia. http://j.mp/ePCSOT #mlearning #eltchat

8:29 pm

familysimpson:

@cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden doesnt finland have exams where internet research to answer qs is the assessible element? #ELTChat

8:29 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @japglish: @nutrich even adults get touchy about which models, how modern and make judgements abt status etc #eltchat

8:29 pm

rliberni:

@nutrich ok cos in France I think they are an absolute no no in school #eltchat

8:29 pm

web20education:

#Inslices :Save and share what matters! #edtech20 #edtools | @scoopit http://t.co/2HTOmVD #edchat #eltchat #elt #ascd11 #lrnchat #ukedchat

8:29 pm

nutrich:

@japglish yep. Adults can be even more difficult. Status can mean a lot #eltchat

8:29 pm

rliberni:

RT @nutrich: @japglish yep. Adults can be even more difficult. Status can mean a lot #eltchat

8:29 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: @japglish yep. Adults can be even more difficult. Status can mean a lot #eltchat

8:29 pm

AnneSinclair1:

@japglish but no prob in 121 #eltchat

8:29 pm

ShellTerrell:

@harrisonmike I think you're right because not all phones have same app available but in time I think this will be better #ELTChat

8:30 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @pattigrayson: My 3rd graders have phones AND an iTouch! #ELTChat

8:30 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon @rliberni no means yes! #eltchat

8:30 pm

harrisonmike:

@ShellTerrell #eltchat interested that some apps are cross platform - eg pingchat and live profile as messenging services

8:30 pm

ayatawel:

@ShellTerrell I guess even if we don't monitor pencil use, we have to with phones !!! #ELTchat

8:30 pm

ShellTerrell:

What are your language learners favorite ways to study with their mobile devices? #ELTChat

8:31 pm

rliberni:

My problem is getting students off the phone! but if they are spking English to colleagues it's gr8 for me to listen and feedback #eltchat

8:31 pm

cioccas:

RT @AnneSinclair1: @japglish but no prob in 121 #eltchat < yes, mobile great for 1-2-1 teaching & learning

8:31 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: What are your language learners favorite ways to study with their mobile devices? #ELTChat

8:31 pm

ayatawel:

RT @AnneSinclair1: what apps are best ? #eltchat

8:31 pm

AnneSinclair1:

so which apps for 121 adults? #eltchat

8:31 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @AnneSinclair1: so which apps for 121 adults? #eltchat

8:31 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@sandymillin Your school doesn't have WiFi? :-( #ELTchat

8:31 pm

japglish:

@ShellTerrell do you wonder if learners see their phones as learning machines? Is it OK for teachers to re-purpose #eltchat

8:31 pm

ShellTerrell:

My adult learners like language podcasts, recording themselves, creating videos, search functions, & dictionaries #ELTChat

8:31 pm

familysimpson:

#eltchat in reply to cost issue: mini top ups now given away in soda cans, many pupils have contract phones. There will be a solution.

8:31 pm

rliberni:

I think Apps have gr8 potential but not really found any that I want to use yet #eltchat

8:32 pm

rliberni:

RT @familysimpson: #eltchat in reply to cost issue: mini top ups now given away in soda cans, many pupils have contract phones. There will be a solution.

8:32 pm

ayatawel:

phones are never allowed in schools here !!#ELTchat

8:32 pm

DinaDobrou:

Hi.No pc access 2nite but following u.wanted to share how I used ss' mobiles for interaction between ss using chat/SMS lingo. #ELTchat

8:32 pm

efl101:

RT @AnthonyGaughan: @sandymillin Your school doesn't have WiFi? :-( #ELTchat > WiFi? In school? Fat chance here... #edtechfail

8:32 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @rliberni: I think Apps have gr8 potential but not really found any that I want to use yet #eltchat - Me too.

8:32 pm

juandoming:

Final+Countdown+%26%238211%3B+Istek+ELT+2011 http://t.co/G5b42RY vía @AddThis #eltchat My #pln #elearning #edchat

8:32 pm

rliberni:

@worldteacher good point need to train about this #eltchat

8:32 pm

web20education:

#pindax Create free online message boards for your interests and passions | @scoopit http://t.co/qvTPQ8t #eltchat #ukedchat #mspil #pelc11

8:32 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish When teacher introduces them to the possibilities they begin 2 C the potential. My adults now like using mobile devices #ELTChat

8:33 pm

cioccas:

@AnneSinclair1 best apps for 1-2-1 will depend on learner needs, but even just record & listen is great! #ELTchat

8:33 pm

sandymillin:

@AnthonyGaughan Has it in a couple of classrooms. In others it's sporadic. And teach in-company w/ no access (closed system) #ELTchat

8:33 pm

Brian_ThomasTCI:

a blog post on Class qr codes and devices: http://bit.ly/hNNJuy #eltchat

8:33 pm

juandoming:

RT @ShellTerrell: Final Countdown ? Istek ELT 2011 http://bit.ly/fnW3wT ~ @evab2001 #eltchat

8:33 pm

ShellTerrell:

If you do use apps for language learning with your students which do you use and what level? #ELTChat

8:33 pm

springrose12:

@harrisonmike @shellterrell I read that ping took huge place on iPhone and discharged it quickly. #eltchat

8:33 pm

nutrich:

RT @japglish: @rliberni I'm afraid I think m-learning is being overhyped #ELTchat | Like most tech the afford? (cont) http://deck.ly/~gliZr

8:33 pm

sandymillin:

@AnthonyGaughan And can only use my comp. & SS laptops if they have them. 2 old PCs in staffroom. Trying tho! #ELTchat

8:33 pm

japglish:

@ShellTerrell just wondering if it's like when the teacher suggests using Facebook ... kids rebel. Adults not maybe #eltchat

8:33 pm

harrisonmike:

@AnthonyGaughan Did that in computer lab today! #eltchat #audacity BTW Window Sound Recorder is so clunky

8:33 pm

rliberni:

@japglish I think it has gr8 potential but it's the newest thing so a big bandwagon - another potential tool #eltchat

8:34 pm

AnneSinclair1:

I use my laptop in every 121 lesson now #eltchat

8:34 pm

eannegrenoble:

RT @theteacherjames: RT @rliberni: (..) but not really found any that I want to use yet #eltchat - Me too. and we can't give names here:(

8:34 pm

nutrich:

M-learning = learn anywhere. Outside the classroom? #ELTchat

8:34 pm

DinaDobrou:

@ShellTerrell Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat

8:34 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish I've never had this problem when introducing technology to my students at any age or level but I know some teachers do #ELTChat

8:34 pm

TeacherLola:

?@ShellTerrell: If you do use apps for language learning with your students which do you use and what level? #ELTChat?

8:34 pm

rliberni:

RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat

8:34 pm

cioccas:

RT @ShellTerrell: @japglish ... they begin 2 C the potential. My adults now like using mobile devices #ELTChat < my adults too !

8:34 pm

japglish:

@nutrich do learners want to learn structured things anywhere and outside classrooms? #eltchat

8:35 pm

springrose12:

Agreed RT ?@rliberni: My problem is getting students off the phone! #eltchat?

8:35 pm

harrisonmike:

@springrose12 You have to keep clearing the cache with ping, other apps too I think is sensible #eltchat

8:35 pm

ShellTerrell:

RE: What language learners like doing via mlearning RT @DinaDobrou: Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat

8:35 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@harrisonmike Yep, Audacity much easier & more flexible 2 use. #ELTchat #audacity

8:35 pm

efl101:

@AnthonyGaughan yes, govt sector adult education - teach for Ministries etc #eltchat

8:35 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 how do your students learn? Individually or by discussing in a group? Mobile opens up discussion to all -confidence booster #eltchat

8:35 pm

Dingtonia:

RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat On another note: looking forward to seeing @LukeMeddings on unplugged approaches at British Counci? (cont) http://deck.ly/~svIdT

8:35 pm

sandymillin:

RT @AnneSinclair1: I use my laptop in every 121 lesson now #eltchat <I use mine in every lesson (or at least, have it w/ me)

8:35 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: RE: What language learners like doing via mlearning RT @DinaDobrou: Dictionaries. Read articles. Watch YouTube videos with lyrics. #ELTchat

8:35 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @ianchia: McGraw-Hill's mConnect will offer vocabulary lessons via SMS, plans for Africa and Asia. http://j.mp/ePCSOT #mlearning #eltchat

8:35 pm

rliberni:

RT @familysimpson: @efl101 how do your students learn? Individually or by discussing in a group? Mobile opens up discussion to all -confidence booster #eltchat

8:35 pm

nutrich:

@japglish Depends, I suppose. Mobile = freedom, anarchic, don't need teachers or classes! Learn English on the bus! : ) #ELTchat

8:36 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @ianchia: English in Action: Mobile Learning in Bangladesh ? National Geographic News Watch http://j.mp/hjhBPT #eltchat

8:36 pm

AnneSinclair1:

@sandymillin great!! #eltchat

8:36 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson see potential, but universal access is a problem with m-learning #eltchat

8:36 pm

Shaunwilden:

Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat

8:36 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat

8:36 pm

rliberni:

@sandymillin I have problems with this they all baulk #eltchat

8:36 pm

rliberni:

RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat

8:36 pm

nutrich:

RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat

8:36 pm

cgoodey:

I don't have a smartphone but think I'll have 2 C just what my phone CAN do so I'm more aware of the possibilities w/ more basic 1s #eltchat

8:36 pm

web20education:

Nowadays all the students use cell phones , but we must teach them how to use mLearning technology in XXI Century Education #eltchat

8:36 pm

familysimpson:

RT @bobharrisonset: 3D models created on a mobile phone?http://bit.ly/gRyAmL < timely for #eltchat

8:36 pm

japglish:

@nutrich without being facetious, do anarchists aged 14 really watn toe learn on the bus? #eltchat

8:36 pm

AnneSinclair1:

#eltchat laptop such a great tool for video, dictionary,etc

8:37 pm

efl101:

RT @japglish: @nutrich without being facetious, do anarchists aged 14 really watn toe learn on the bus? #eltchat

8:37 pm

cioccas:

RT @Shaunwilden: .... for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat < will check it out!

8:37 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @AnneSinclair1: #eltchat laptop such a great tool for video, dictionary,etc

8:37 pm

sandymillin:

@rliberni Tend to find if can see what I'm doing, they don't mind. And they like web access when we have it. Thy c how it helps #eltchat

8:37 pm

cerirhiannon:

#eltchat I don't have a smartphone - but beginning to feel like I need to get one !

8:37 pm

rliberni:

My learners all bus ppl want quick things they can look at , note maybe listen to but not spend too much time on #eltchat

8:37 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @web20education: Nowadays all the students use cell phones , but we must teach them how to use mLearning technology in XXI Century Education #eltchat

8:37 pm

ShellTerrell:

I use these apps w my Young Learners- StoryRobe, StoryKit, Talking Tom, Mouthoff, Pubppet Pals, Sticki booth, Fotobabble, Animoto #ELTChat

8:38 pm

japglish:

@nutrich look, am aware that I am going against the grain here, but would like longitudinal studies of anarchistic m-learning #eltchat

8:38 pm

nutrich:

@japglish I didn't say they were anarchists, the learning is anarchic - lack of authority #eltchat

8:38 pm

sandymillin:

@nutrich @japglish Think that's true up to a point, but teacher still needed to help them start off, then join the dots #ELTchat

8:38 pm

DinaDobrou:

RT @ShellTerrell: My adult learners like language podcasts, recording themselves, creating videos, search functions, & dictionaries #ELTChat

8:38 pm

rliberni:

@sandymillin mine prefer time away from their laptop - 'an oasis of calm' one std called his English lesson :-) #eltchat

8:38 pm

rliberni:

RT @japglish: @nutrich look, am aware that I am going against the grain here, but would like longitudinal studies of anarchistic m-learning #eltchat

8:39 pm

pigletruth:

@nutrich @japglish is anarchic learning a bad thing? #ELTchat

8:39 pm

nutrich:

@japglish well the research would be useful certainly, I'm just saying I think the affordances point to outside the classroom #eltchat

8:39 pm

efl101:

RT @rliberni: mine prefer time away from their laptop - 'an oasis of calm' one std called his English lesson :-) #eltchat > gd point

8:39 pm

japglish:

@rliberni maybe right #eltchat

8:39 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 @japglish @nutrich #eltchat would they tell their friends if they WERE learning on the bus? They are just looking at msg/app

8:39 pm

rliberni:

RT @nutrich: @japglish well the research would be useful certainly, I'm just saying I think the affordances point to outside the classroom #eltchat

8:39 pm

TeacherLola:

RT @web20education: Nowadays all the students use cell phones , but we must teach them how to use mLearning technology in XXI Century Education #eltchat

8:39 pm

jurylady:

RT @ShellTerrell: All my learners share mobile devices! Teachers them collaboration & supports them speaking English, prob solving, sharing together #ELTChat

8:39 pm

nutrich:

@pigletruth @japglish NO! I'm saying more freedom should be gained from m-learning = anarchic #eltchat

8:39 pm

AnneSinclair1:

but my laptop's fun! #eltchat

8:39 pm

Shaunwilden:

@ShellTerrell #eltchat I love photobabble app , great for homework, sts take a picture, describe it &uploa? (cont) http://deck.ly/~dNKge

8:39 pm

japglish:

@nutrich they do but am afraid that I am slowly becoming a connectivism-denier #eltchat

8:40 pm

rliberni:

RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell #eltchat I love photobabble app , great for homework, sts take a picture, describe it &uploa? (cont) http://deck.ly/~dNKge

8:40 pm

Brian_ThomasTCI:

RT @ShellTerrell: I use these apps w my Young Learners- StoryRobe, StoryKit, Talking Tom, Mouthoff, Pubppet Pals, Sticki booth, Fotobabble, Animoto #ELTChat

8:40 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 #eltchat definitely an issue but why should it not be in place for those who have devices? It will only get more popular.

8:40 pm

eannegrenoble:

RT @sandymillin: @nutrich @japglish Think that's true up to a point, but teacher still needed to help them start off, then join the dots #ELTchat

8:40 pm

japglish:

@familysimpson @efl101 @nutrich reckoin the juries out on m-learning untiil somebody asks learners, studies use over time #eltchat

8:41 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@efl101 True, if you do that on-site there are all kinds of security restrictions to make your life fun... #ELTchat

8:41 pm

cgoodey:

RT @rliberni: @sandymillin mine prefer time away from their laptop - 'an oasis of calm' one std called his English lesson :-) #eltchat

8:41 pm

MahomedyHussein:

RT @ShellTerrell: I agree! RT @nutrich: I associate m-learning with no classroom, outside anywhere #ELTchat

8:41 pm

nutrich:

@japglish Connectivism is the externally stored, shared knowledge tho' - I'm a sceptic there too #ELTchat

8:41 pm

sandymillin:

@rliberni Aha - but I use my laptop. And ask them before asking them to bring in their own, if that makes sense! #eltchat

8:41 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson coz my courses are career exam courses so need to be fair to all #eltchat

8:41 pm

Shaunwilden:

@japglish I think you might be right re juries out but the possibilities it brings can't be ignored #eltchat

8:41 pm

DinaDobrou:

RT @ShellTerrell: I use these apps w my Young Learners- StoryRobe, StoryKit, Talking Tom, Mouthoff, Pubppet Pals, Sticki booth, Fotobabble, Animoto #ELTChat

8:41 pm

jurylady:

RT @ianchia: English in Action: Mobile Learning in Bangladesh ? National Geographic News Watch http://j.mp/hjhBPT #eltchat

8:41 pm

AnneSinclair1:

@efl101 @rliberni my students sometimes take over my laptop! #eltchat

8:41 pm

ShellTerrell:

This created with free StoryRobe app fr @CeciELT 's 6 yrold son in Brazil http://youtu.be/Kl5p8owr2M0 for 1 of my upcoming pres #ELTChat

8:41 pm

DinaDobrou:

RT @Shaunwilden: Anyone signed up for this free 'about mlearning course 'taking place in april? http://bit.ly/fGhZv6 #eltchat

8:41 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @AnneSinclair1: @efl101 @rliberni my students sometimes take over my laptop! #eltchat > :)

8:42 pm

nutrich:

@japglish @familysimpson @efl101 It's context and situation dependent, like all things. #ELTchat

8:42 pm

efl101:

@AnthonyGaughan aint that the truth! #eltchat

8:42 pm

sandymillin:

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat I don't have a smartphone - but beginning to feel like I need one !<have been feeling for a while. #whenI'mrich

8:42 pm

japglish:

@Shaunwilden absolutely - lots of potential and I think will eventually come to replace PCs/Laptops ... but not yet #eltchat

8:42 pm

alhen_:

#eltchat some like sharing their music with me, so I can play it later in class (bluetooth)

8:42 pm

rliberni:

@sandymillin I do sometimes use it but mostly they say I'll look at it later half the time they're on their blackberry anyway! #eltchat

8:42 pm

rliberni:

RT @alhen_: #eltchat some like sharing their music with me, so I can play it later in class (bluetooth)

8:43 pm

rliberni:

RT @japglish: @Shaunwilden absolutely - lots of potential and I think will eventually come to replace PCs/Laptops ... but not yet #eltchat

8:43 pm

efl101:

twitter in class anyone? #eltchat - m-learning would seem ideal for that

8:43 pm

ShellTerrell:

One of the best free apps for young learners that comes w/ free lesson plans for teachers EcoBugs http://youtu.be/5JT07dBSq7k #ELTChat

8:43 pm

familysimpson:

@japglish @efl101 @nutrich #eltchat that will only happen if someone uses it- are you disadvantaging students by not offering this as opt?

8:43 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @alhen_: #eltchat some like sharing their music with me, so I can play it later in class (bluetooth)

8:43 pm

japglish:

@nutrich well, the liberal use of the A word there also gets me. Do students WANT autonomy? R we sure #eltchat

8:43 pm

nutrich:

How does playing with a load of game-like apps aid language learning? Better than speaking? Just a provocative Q ; ) #ELTchat

8:43 pm

rliberni:

@japglish I agree I think there are things we can do now but they're small & can be done other ways but in the future who knows? #eltchat

8:44 pm

ShellTerrell:

@Brian_ThomasTCI Me too! Can even be used offline & then later with wifi I can upload the StoryKit story w/ a private link #ELTchat

8:44 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson fair question, perhaps not but been wary of taking that step up to now #eltchat do you use it?

8:44 pm

nutrich:

@japglish Do they know that it might be better for them? #eltchat

8:44 pm

sandymillin:

@AnthonyGaughan Talking about security issues - what about privacy issues - especially w/ YLs? Do you have an agreement w/ parents? #ELTchat

8:44 pm

rliberni:

@japglish in my experience no not really it's not always a choice but that there is no other choice #eltchat

8:44 pm

japglish:

@rliberni agree Berni. Am impressed with phones as cameras and phones as recorders but not for Apps #eltchat

8:44 pm

ShellTerrell:

It's with any tool, teachers need exposure to great training in order to see & implement effective use of mobile learning #ELTChat

8:44 pm

cerirhiannon:

@nutrich re gaming - there's research that suggests that yes, it can aid learning - and not only languages #eltchat

8:45 pm

jurylady:

RT @ShellTerrell: Great way to introduce parents to idea of having their YLs use mobile phones in class is do a phone show/tell & what it can do #ELTChat

8:45 pm

rliberni:

@AnneSinclair1 that's nice I'm glad you let them #eltchat

8:45 pm

familysimpson:

@cgoodey @rliberni @sandymillin mobile device = learn anywhere; why not take an english class in a drama studio/ canteen/ field? #eltchat

8:45 pm

nutrich:

@familysimpson @japglish @efl101 would you be disadvantaging a disadvantaged student by highlighting their lack of expensive tech? #ELTchat

8:45 pm

Shaunwilden:

@nutrich If they're in English then sts have to respond and react etc #eltchat

8:45 pm

ShellTerrell:

Great idea! RT @familysimpson: mobile device = learn anywhere; why not take an english class in a drama studio/ canteen/ field? #eltchat

8:45 pm

efl101:

@cerirhiannon @nutrich hmm, but should they be language games most of which are irredeemably dull? #eltchat

8:45 pm

AnneSinclair1:

I teach one -to-one adults in a language school. Mostly business Eng #eltchat

8:46 pm

japglish:

@nutrich or do they regard their time in lang. learning as neatly boxed into the classroom, where they want it #eltchat

8:46 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @cerirhiannon: @nutrich re gaming - there's research that suggests that yes, it can aid learning - and not only languages #eltchat

8:46 pm

DinaDobrou:

@nutrich Maybe good for passively learning/reviewing vocabulary and noticing structures. Can't replace speaking. #ELTchat

8:46 pm

cerirhiannon:

@efl101 @nutrich no! I was referring to gaming - not language games #eltchat

8:46 pm

nutrich:

@cerirhiannon yeah, I know, but I'm trying to provide some opposition to the evangelism! ; ) #ELTchat

8:46 pm

sandymillin:

RT @ShellTerrell: It's with any tool, teachers need exposure to great training in order to see & implement effective use of mobile learning #ELTChat

8:46 pm

rliberni:

@AnneSinclair1 I had my first computer in my class in 1984 just one and we always clustered around it (4 & 5 year olds) #eltchat

8:46 pm

ShellTerrell:

@AnneSinclair1 I like Newsy app & Video Vocab apps for Business English #eltchat

8:46 pm

AnneSinclair1:

RT @DinaDobrou: @nutrich Maybe good for passively learning/reviewing vocabulary and noticing structures. Can't replace speaking. #ELTchat

8:47 pm

rliberni:

RT @DinaDobrou: @nutrich Maybe good for passively learning/reviewing vocabulary and noticing structures. Can't replace speaking. #ELTchat

8:47 pm

worldteacher:

RT @ShellTerrell: It's with any tool, teachers need exposure to great training in order to see & implement effective use of mobile learning #ELTChat

8:47 pm

sandymillin:

@nutrich Even post-Proficiency colleagues have learnt words from Farmville on facebook. Always something new #ELTchat

8:47 pm

cioccas:

Good ideas her: Audio Apps for the iPod Touch - Handy for the Languages Classroom. http://www.technolote.com/?p=976 #ELTchat

8:47 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 #eltchat been taking steps: online notes, used google chat/ netmeeting for grp disc in past, mobile voting, i can do better tho!

8:47 pm

rliberni:

@familysimpson yes I really think that that is the point that's where we're heading but we're not there yet #eltchat

8:47 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: @AnneSinclair1 I had first computer in lass in 1984 - we always clustered around it #eltchat > likewise all ages in 1986 :)

8:47 pm

rliberni:

RT @familysimpson: @efl101 #eltchat been taking steps: online notes, used google chat/ netmeeting for grp disc in past, mobile voting, i can do better tho!

8:47 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @cioccas: Good ideas her: Audio Apps for the iPod Touch - Handy for the Languages Classroom http://bit.ly/eCHWKO #ELTchat

8:48 pm

nutrich:

@japglish I know exactly where you're coming from! I think the in between time is important though #eltchat

8:48 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@cgoodey "OK Hans, sit over there so we can practise texting each other..." - BUT, any weirder than writing "emails?" in class? hmm #ELTchat

8:48 pm

familysimpson:

RT @ShellTerrell: Great idea! RT @familysimpson: mobile device = learn anywhere; why not take an english class in a drama studio/ canteen/ field? #eltchat

8:48 pm

rliberni:

RT @AnthonyGaughan: @cgoodey "OK Hans, sit over there so we can practise texting each other..." - BUT, any weirder than writing "emails?" in class? hmm #ELTchat

8:48 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson do students respond well to it? #eltchat

8:49 pm

AnneSinclair1:

@ShellTerrell #eltchat are they for mobiles or laptop?

8:49 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: RT @cioccas: Good ideas her: Audio Apps for the iPod Touch - Handy for the Languages Classroom http://bit.ly/eCHWKO #ELTchat

8:49 pm

ShellTerrell:

How I use mobile learning with language learners! There will be more updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning

8:49 pm

japglish:

@nutrich agree but I think we really need to recontextualise that in-between time and focus on content NOT lang learning #eltchat

8:49 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: How I use mobile learning with language learners! There will be more updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning

8:49 pm

cioccas:

Great video of using speak & repeat apps with kids learning Chinese here: http://www.technolote.com/?p=946 #ELTchat

8:49 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 #eltchat interested: what are career exam courses? Would mobile use be a career skill in future?

8:49 pm

rliberni:

RT @cioccas: Great video of using speak & repeat apps with kids learning Chinese here: http://www.technolote.com/?p=946 #ELTchat

8:50 pm

ShellTerrell:

@AnneSinclair1 Both http://bit.ly/gtLNSQ & http://bit.ly/PUpo8 #eltchat

8:50 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@sandymillin I work with adults so no parents to manage, but I had a lot of fun with Works Councils and IT Depts here in Germany... #ELTchat

8:50 pm

japglish:

@nutrich I mean, a kind of autonomous CLIL where Apps help translate, clarify but not for lang for its own sake #eltchat

8:50 pm

jurylady:

RT @ShellTerrell: In many countries this is true & cheaper than room of computers! RT @rliberni: more mobiles in Africa than computers #eltchat

8:50 pm

helen100463:

RT @ShellTerrell: How I use mobile learning with language learners! More updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning #yltsig

8:50 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @ShellTerrell: @AnneSinclair1 I like Newsy app & Video Vocab apps for Business English #eltchat

8:50 pm

AnneSinclair1:

@ShellTerrell OK thanks will look into them #eltchat

8:50 pm

cgoodey:

@AnthonyGaughan I guess it depends how much time we have with the students -5 hours a day or 2 hours a week- & make best use of it #ELTchat

8:51 pm

pattylouis:

Kerpoof is good for young students. Not sure if there is an App though #ELTchat

8:51 pm

familysimpson:

@nutrich @japglish @efl101 #eltchat if you highlighted it or it was the only way to learn- but this would enhance learning, not replace it

8:51 pm

sandymillin:

@AnthonyGaughan What kind of problems did they cause? #ELTchat

8:51 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson they need english for their future career/promotion etc. without it they have problems. #eltchat mobile skills? maybe

8:51 pm

ShellTerrell:

@AnneSinclair1 Audioboo, Woices, & 43 Things also great & have online platforms as well! #ELTChat

8:51 pm

TeacherLola:

RT @ShellTerrell: How I use mobile learning with language learners! There will be more updates by May http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning

8:51 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @cioccas: Great video of using speak & repeat apps with kids learning Chinese here: http://www.technolote.com/?p=946 #ELTchat

8:51 pm

AnneSinclair1:

#eltchat

8:51 pm

nutrich:

I'm just adding sm Qs to the tech-loving. Context is everything. I know about research, possibilities etc, but need 2b critical! #ELTchat

8:51 pm

cgoodey:

@AnthonyGaughan If it's 5 hours a day, then I some time texting & emailing is fine! #ELTchat

8:52 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: I'm just adding sm Qs to the tech-loving. Context is everything. I know about research, possibilities etc, but need 2b critical! #ELTchat

8:52 pm

AnneSinclair1:

@ShellTerrell Ok tnx again #eltchat

8:52 pm

jurylady:

RT @ShellTerrell: Also mobile learning allows the learner to apply the language & vocabulary in a contextual setting & with others. Authentic! #ELTChat

8:52 pm

inigral:

@ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat

8:52 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 #eltchat yes, it allows chat history for revision and frames knowledge in their language not mine!

8:52 pm

TeacherLola:

@juandoming me pregunto si estarás siguiendo el ht #ELTchat , el tema de hoy es mobile Learning y se comparten experiencias.

8:52 pm

ShellTerrell:

Why not have language learners learn via mobile phones when they have to use for their careers? It's not questioned there #ELTChat

8:53 pm

cgoodey:

@AnthonyGaughan Though even when I was working with students 5 hours a day, I didn't have them doing this..(sorry, thinking slowly) #ELTchat

8:53 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @inigral: @ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat

8:54 pm

worldteacher:

@ShellTerrell How I use mobile learning with language learners! http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat #mlearning Great link - thanks! .

8:54 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson chat history is a good point, st can go back and review - tech never forgets ;-) #eltchat

8:54 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@sandymillin lots of negotiations about data protection, cookies, etc (I'm a moodle admin) - all fair enough, but lengthy process #ELTchat

8:54 pm

rliberni:

key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat

8:54 pm

ShellTerrell:

@Inigral I agree but I was suggesting that many teachers don't use mobile learning now because they haven't had the training #ELTChat

8:54 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @Inigral: @ShellTerrell waiting for training will cause paralysis #ELTchat> experimenting & hearing/reading abt others' experiments

8:54 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat

8:54 pm

efl101:

RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat

8:55 pm

rliberni:

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Inigral: @ShellTerrell waiting for training will cause paralysis #ELTchat> experimenting & hearing/reading abt others' experiments

8:55 pm

nutrich:

@rliberni Bingo! #eltchat

8:55 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @ShellTerrell: Why not have language learners learn via mobile phones when they have to use for their careers? It's not questioned there #ELTChat

8:55 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @efl101: @familysimpson chat history is a good point, st can go back and review - tech never forgets ;-) #eltchat

8:55 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat

8:55 pm

EclipsingX:

#ELTChat also noticed with learners if writing word not needed we agree phones. Research possible and quick.

8:55 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@cgoodey very true - ring the changes (or tweet them, perhaps, these days...) #ELTchat

8:55 pm

rliberni:

@cerirhiannon I agree I think with tech it's jump in and learn, re-think do again learn again etc.. #eltchat

8:55 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 #eltchat verbal communication skills or written? Mobile devices: skype, blogs, twitter (summary skills), voice memos, evernote...

8:55 pm

TeacherLola:

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Inigral: @ShellTerrell waiting for training will cause paralysis #ELTchat> experimenting & hearing/reading abt others' experiments

8:56 pm

cioccas:

RT @inigral: teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat < YES!

8:56 pm

rliberni:

@nutrich two fat ladies? #eltchat

8:56 pm

ShellTerrell:

I like that my Ss in habit of looking up vocab, language, etc. when they need it on their devices instead of waiting for class #ELTChat

8:56 pm

japglish:

@rliberni spot on Berni ... and we need to research the outcomes, not just dive in with more expensive gear #eltchat

8:56 pm

nutrich:

@rliberni Did they used to say that?! #eltchat

8:56 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: I like that my Ss in habit of looking up vocab, language, etc. when they need it on their devices instead of waiting for class #ELTChat

8:56 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: learning must take place #eltchat > as w everything it's how/ why u use it, not jst what u use & not jst 4 the sake of it

8:56 pm

Shaunwilden:

#ELTchat "I was suggesting that many teachers don't use mobile learning because they haven't had the training? (cont) http://deck.ly/~XgVYj

8:57 pm

rliberni:

@ShellTerrell this is a great point - an immediate tool for getting immediate info #eltchat

8:57 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: @cerirhiannon I agree I think with tech it's jump in and learn, re-think do again learn again etc.. #eltchat > totally!

8:57 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 #eltchat i can still show students message group posts from 1997: embarassing for me, but good they know- internet never forgets!

8:57 pm

rliberni:

RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTchat "I was suggesting that many teachers don't use mobile learning because they haven't had the training? (cont) http://deck.ly/~XgVYj

8:57 pm

drdjwalker:

RT @rliberni: key to efficacy or not of mlearning is whether or not they are learning - having fun is good but learning must also take place #eltchat

8:57 pm

EclipsingX:

@rliberni #ELTCHAT+also teachers confidence to do it and know how

8:57 pm

ShellTerrell:

Difference with mobile phones is many learners have their own they just need to learn how to use for language learning #ELTChat

8:57 pm

familysimpson:

RT @inigral: @ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat

8:57 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @ShellTerrell: I like that my Ss in habit of looking up vocab, language, etc. when they need it on their devices instead of waiting for class #ELTChat

8:57 pm

nutrich:

Should newly qualified teachers dive into technology use or concentrate on 'simpler' stuff first? #ELTchat

8:58 pm

rliberni:

@nutrich at Bingo yes 88? #eltchat

8:58 pm

efl101:

@familysimpson it'll all come back to haunt us one day! #eltchat

8:58 pm

Shaunwilden:

@nutrich They should have been trained to use tech thus negating your ? ;-) #ELTchat

8:58 pm

ShellTerrell:

It's better we teach them with their devices they take with them then worry about waiting to provide each student with one #ELTChat

8:58 pm

sandymillin:

@nutrich Think it depends on the teacher & the context. If htey feel comfortable w/ tech, why not? #ELTchat

8:58 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @rliberni: @ShellTerrell this is gr8 point - an immediate tool for getting immediate info #eltchat > & fostering good lan learning habits

8:58 pm

cioccas:

#ELTchat -ting this morning on my phone while eating breakfast - mobile learning in practice :-) this is what I'd like to pass on to ELLs

8:58 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @ShellTerrell: Difference with mobile phones is many learners have their own they just need to learn how to use for language learning #ELTChat

8:58 pm

juandoming:

RT @TeacherLola: @juandoming me pregunto si estarás siguiendo el ht #ELTchat , el tema de hoy es mobile Learning y se comparten experiencias.

8:58 pm

rliberni:

@EclipsingX agree confidence is key #eltchat

8:58 pm

efl101:

@nutrich simpler stuff first methinks, get feel for lang teaching first then bring on the bells and whistles #eltchat

8:58 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @cioccas: #ELTchat -ting this morning on my phone while eating breakfast - mobile learning in practice :-) this is what I'd like to pass on to ELLs

8:59 pm

nutrich:

@Shaunwilden in a four week CELTA course? ; ) #ELTchat

8:59 pm

rliberni:

@nutrich the wonder of English eh? #eltchat

8:59 pm

rliberni:

RT @cioccas: #ELTchat -ting this morning on my phone while eating breakfast - mobile learning in practice :-) this is what I'd like to pass on to ELLs

8:59 pm

nutrich:

@sandymillin a lot will depend on staff room support, I reckon #ELTchat

9:00 pm

Shaunwilden:

@nutrich Yes I try and integrate tech into all my input somewhere and encourage trainees to try #ELTchat

9:00 pm

familysimpson:

@efl101 #eltchat probably: my posts were just daft 18yo stuff, nothing malicious but blogs etc may define their career = responsible use

9:00 pm

cioccas:

@nutrich I'd like to see new teachers integrate tech and the simpler stuff (when & where appropriate) #ELTchat

9:00 pm

sandymillin:

@nutrich That too - I'm one of the main advocates for tech in our staffrm. Other TT want to, but don't have time/know where 2 start #ELTchat

9:00 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @Shaunwilden: @nutrich #ELTchat > agree w Shaun - tech not "harder" or "simpler" just another tool - like a CB ;)

9:00 pm

efl101:

@Shaunwilden impressive! wasn't even mentioned on my course in 2001 #eltchat

9:00 pm

rom:

RT @ianchia: McGraw-Hill's mConnect will offer vocabulary lessons via SMS, plans for Africa and Asia. http://j.mp/ePCSOT #mlearning #eltchat

9:00 pm

AnthonyGaughan:

@shaunwilden yes, but also reluctance to use private resource for work purposes: which schools provide mobile devices for staff? #ELTchat

9:00 pm

juandoming:

http://technology4kids.pbworks.com/w/page/31836983/MobileLearning Mobile #learning #elearning #eltchat #edchat #education #socialmedia

9:00 pm

DinaDobrou:

RT @cioccas: RT @inigral: teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat < YES!

9:01 pm

nutrich:

@efl101 Could be true! I got two opposing answers for this, did you notice?! @sandymillin #eltchat

9:01 pm

rliberni:

RT @AnthonyGaughan: @shaunwilden yes, but also reluctance to use private resource for work purposes: which schools provide mobile devices for staff? #ELTchat

9:01 pm

corriekelly:

@nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat

9:01 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @sandymillin: @nutrich If htey feel comfortable w/ tech, why not? #ELTchat >yes, comfort/familiarity are the key

9:01 pm

Shaunwilden:

@AnthonyGaughan Oh i wanst saying it was easy, but if the tutor shows then at least its a start #ELTchat

9:01 pm

rliberni:

RT @corriekelly: @nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat

9:01 pm

sandymillin:

@cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden Not "harder" or "simpler" if you're familiar with it, but faster/easier to get familiar w/ a book. #ELTchat

9:01 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @sandymillin: @nutrich If htey feel comfortable w/ tech, why not? #ELTchat >yes, comfort/familiarity are the key

9:01 pm

EclipsingX:

@Shaunwilden agree.) but I have noticed this year learners starting to make a natural progression 2M/learning. They R leading me #ELTCHAT

9:01 pm

cioccas:

RT @ShellTerrell: Diff with mobile phones is many learners have their own they just need to learn how to use for language learning #ELTChat

9:01 pm

efl101:

@nutrich you pays your money you takes your choice #eltchat

9:01 pm

nutrich:

@sandymillin It seems 2b normal situation! #eltchat

9:01 pm

sandymillin:

RT @efl101: @Shaunwilden impressive! wasn't even mentioned on my course in 2001 #eltchat >nor mine in 2008

9:01 pm

familysimpson:

@drdjwalker @rliberni fun IS learning, ask any toddler (they might not reply but they'll understand you... ;-) ) #eltchat

9:01 pm

ShellTerrell:

Ss have phones & have access to lang learning if we teach vs ban. Doesn't matter if not all have same 1 if they can learn w it #ELTChat

9:02 pm

cioccas:

RT @ShellTerrell: ... teach them with their devices they take with them then worry about waiting to provide each student with one #ELTChat

9:02 pm

japglish:

@ShellTerrell really don't agree with this. There is a social context to having/not having a phone #eltchat

9:02 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden faster/easier to get familiar w/ a book. #ELTchat > possibly not with younger /techier trainees

9:02 pm

rliberni:

@familysimpson I agree with that but there needs to be a balance and for pure language learning not yet about the learning yet #eltchat

9:03 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish I have not had this experience in 3 countries I've taught including really poor students #ELTChat

9:03 pm

nutrich:

@corriekelly Too right. Just as long as pedagogy comes before technology! #eltchat Whose decision? Students or teachers?

9:03 pm

lauraahaha:

RT @corriekelly: @nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat

9:03 pm

familysimpson:

RT @Shaunwilden: @nutrich Yes I try and integrate tech into all my input somewhere and encourage trainees to try #ELTchat < forward thinking

9:03 pm

rliberni:

@familysimpson with other subject areas there is much more scope maybe #eltchat

9:03 pm

RoderickSilva:

RT @corriekelly: @nutrich Strong pedagogy needs to come 1st, then use of technology will be intentional, purposeful, & goal-driven #ELTchat

9:03 pm

corriekelly:

@familysimpson @drdjwalker @rliberni #ELTchat Universities now look for incoming freshman 2 be "more like kindergartners" in approach 2 lrng

9:03 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish When I run into the problem my Ss don't have a cellphone then yes I can understand but hasn't been a prob yet #ELTChat

9:03 pm

sandymillin:

@cerirhiannon I'm a technophile-love it! But never occured to me 2 use in class til @Shaunwilden came to school! Context-dependent #ELTchat

9:03 pm

cioccas:

RT @AnthonyGaughan...reluctance to use private resource for work.. which schools provide mobile devices for staff? #ELTchat < Not mine!

9:03 pm

EclipsingX:

@rliberni #ELTCHAT I would love to stick some mini cameras on learners phones and observe how they were using it for classes.

9:03 pm

japglish:

@ShellTerrell I know what you are saying but I think kids, for example, are very sensitive to ownerships issues #eltchat

9:04 pm

rliberni:

RT @sandymillin: @cerirhiannon I'm a technophile-love it! But never occured to me 2 use in class til @Shaunwilden came to school! Context-dependent #ELTchat

9:04 pm

cerirhiannon:

as with ss, trainees should be allowed to use the tech they use in their day-to-day lives and explore the potential #eltchat

9:04 pm

sandymillin:

@cerirhiannon "never occured to me" maybe too strong - more like, had no idea how, didn't know anyone who did it #ELTchat

9:04 pm

nutrich:

Ok, we're all sold on it, but we're chatting on twitter. Many teachers don't even use social media at all. Just saying like! ; ) #ELTchat

9:04 pm

corriekelly:

@nutrich #ELTchat Much lies in preservice teacher training

9:04 pm

familysimpson:

RT @WomenOfHistory: If you have never made a (mobile) mistake then it means you have never tried something new< #eltchat ok adapted slightly

9:04 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish I teach 4 to 10 year-olds & they love they can use their phones to learn. They also learn to share. #ELTChat

9:04 pm

rliberni:

RT @ShellTerrell: @japglish I teach 4 to 10 year-olds & they love they can use their phones to learn. They also learn to share. #ELTChat

9:04 pm

nutrich:

@corriekelly yeah and most teflers have a month of that, often only a weekend! #ELTchat

9:05 pm

corriekelly:

@nutrich True that! #ELTchat

9:05 pm

EclipsingX:

#ELTCHAT @rliberni also want to ask them for a demo of what a phone can do as they seem more comfortable.)

9:05 pm

japglish:

@ShellTerrell my 10 year old son NOT having a phone proved to be a serious status issue for him at school #eltchat

9:05 pm

LucyBlakemore:

RT @cioccas: RT @inigral: teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat < YES!

9:05 pm

nutrich:

@corriekelly #ELTchat : )

9:05 pm

efl101:

@nutrich true. started at new centre 2 weeks ago - 15 efl teachers, none on twitter, blogs, plns etc. - and all of them young(ish) #eltchat

9:05 pm

creativetallis:

RT @inigral: @ShellTerrell teachers need to be encouraged to actively experiment! waiting for training on new things will cause paralysis #ELTchat

9:05 pm

DinaDobrou:

That's it 4 me. I'm out. Sorry but my eyes r killing me. Nice to have attended this particular #ELTchat on a mobile device tho. ;)

9:05 pm

SamGliksman:

Pedagogy comes before technology but tech. is also changing educational objectives... We're graduating students into new societies #ELTchat

9:06 pm

sandymillin:

Anyone noticed we've gone 5 minutes over? ;) Off to bed for long day tomorrow. Great ideas! #eltchat

9:06 pm

Shaunwilden:

As our hour is up did we decide on any best practices and tips,? #ELTchat

9:06 pm

cerirhiannon:

@sandymillin tutored a grp of young trainees from US a few yrs back on Trinity Cert - all had laptops - all used 'em in classes #eltchat

9:06 pm

nutrich:

@efl101 Sounds familiar! ; ) #eltchat

9:06 pm

rliberni:

OK got to run really enjoyable chat today thnx as ever to gr8 moderators @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden permanently plugged in :-) #eltchat

9:06 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish Is the phone used for learning & are they encouraged to share the phone. My students will share one phone in groups of 5 #ELTchat

9:06 pm

cioccas:

Having so much fun mlearning on #ELTchat this morning that I'm now running late for work! Thanks everyone!

9:06 pm

familysimpson:

@rliberni @drdjwalker #eltchat balance could be a well planned mobile assessment that is enjoyable & motivating?

9:06 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish I think the teacher has to address the culture. It becomes an issue if school doesn't teach #ELTChat

9:06 pm

sandymillin:

@cerirhiannon Depends on your tutors too - even as recently as 2008 no tech at all on my CELTA #eltchat

9:07 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @nutrich: Many teachers don't even use social media at all. Just saying like! ; ) #ELTchat > always a gd pt :)

9:07 pm

japglish:

@ShellTerrell what I mean here is that once a single phone is introduced, everybody must have them. Not all parents can afford #eltchat

9:07 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @Shaunwilden: As our hour is up did we decide on any best practices and tips,? #ELTchat

9:07 pm

rliberni:

@EclipsingX would be a great way to see how we should be exloiting its use with stds #eltchat

9:07 pm

nutrich:

RT @efl101: true. started at new centre 2 weeks ago - 15 efl teachers, none on twitter, blogs, plns etc. - all of them young(ish) #eltchat

9:07 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish This hasn't been the case with the classes I've taught but I do teach collaboration & bring my own in case #ELTchat

9:07 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @efl101: @nutrich 15 efl teachers, none on twitter, blogs, plns etc. - and all of them young(ish) #eltchat > prob´ly got smartphones tho

9:07 pm

Shaunwilden:

Any summary volunteers? #ELTchat

9:08 pm

familysimpson:

@rliberni #eltchat i find it easier to see links for new tech with other subjects than my own (computing) because it is about the tech...

9:08 pm

LucyBlakemore:

RT @SamGliksman: Pedagogy comes before technology but tech. is also changing educational objectives... We're graduating students into new societies #ELTchat

9:08 pm

japglish:

@ShellTerrell that sounds very sensible. I think ideally, a class set of tablets would take away the prob .... #eltchat

9:08 pm

EclipsingX:

@nutrich very true.) But learners do. They should be the ones teaching teachers. I am sure they have GR8 ideas.)#ELTCHAT

9:08 pm

rliberni:

@familysimpson true that might work - I've been using mobiles with stds since 2006 so I am converted - think we shld b doing more #eltchat

9:09 pm

ShellTerrell:

@japglish I don't have a class set I bring my own & because we share they have no issues. I only do collaborative lessons not 1:1 #ELTChat

9:09 pm

worldteacher:

Thanks for all the great links & tips - I've learned a lot & I've got a lot of reading to do! Thanks everyone on #eltchat

9:09 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @Shaunwilden: Any summary volunteers? #ELTchat

9:09 pm

Shaunwilden:

Apologies for time mess ups today, I think (and fingers crossed i'm not wrong) we're using london time for #ELTchat so 12 and 9 BST not GMT

9:09 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @Shaunwilden: Apologies for time mess ups today, I think (and fingers crossed i'm not wrong) we're using london time for #ELTchat so 12 and 9 BST not GMT

9:09 pm

familysimpson:

@corriekelly @drdjwalker @rliberni #eltchat agree, big fan of #gbl too- converging to allow true individualised lifelong learning- exciting

9:09 pm

nutrich:

So, m-learning has great potential, but must be based on sound pedagogy, focused on the learners and correct for the context, no? #ELTchat

9:09 pm

cerirhiannon:

RT @sandymillin: Depends on tutors 2 - 2008 no tech at all on my CELTA #eltchat> agree often tutors not comfortable w the tech ;)

9:09 pm

ShellTerrell:

@efl101 I like your new pic! #ELTChat

9:10 pm

ShellTerrell:

RT @nutrich: So, m-learning has great potential, but must be based on sound pedagogy, focused on the learners and correct for the context, no? #ELTchat

9:10 pm

Shaunwilden:

@nutrich Nice summarising tweet :-) #ELTchat

 

 

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