Student PLNs How and What

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9:01 pm	Shaunwilden:	Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN's - what and how
9:01 pm	Fuertesun:	RT @bcnpaul1: for the next hour, my tweets dedicated to #ELTChat - me too
9:01 pm	rliberni:	RT @Shaunwilden: Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN's - what and how
9:02 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @rliberni: For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat
9:02 pm	tarabenwell:	For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat
9:02 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @Shaunwilden: Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN's - what and how
9:02 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @Teacherhorizons: @Shaunwilden hey what does PLN's stand for? #eltchat
9:02 pm	DinaDobrou:	Good evening all. For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #ELTchat
9:02 pm	bcnpaul1:	@fuertesun Good evening to you. How is it to be back on all your land? :-) #eltchat
9:02 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @tarabenwell: For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat > mine too, discussing student PLNs
9:03 pm	mr_isaacs:	RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv #eltchat
9:03 pm	rliberni:	OK let's begin with a definition PLN Personal Learning Network #eltchat any advance?
9:03 pm	bcnpaul1:	good question. student PLNs what & how? #eltchat
9:03 pm	juanalejandro82:	what's the topic? RT @bcnpaul1: for the next hour, my tweets dedicated to #ELTChat
9:03 pm	tarabenwell:	I introduced my online learners to the term PLN back in September. #ELTChat
9:03 pm	treeves:	@Shaunwilden personal learning network #eltchat
9:03 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @tarabenwell: For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat
9:03 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN's - what and how
9:03 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @rliberni: OK let's begin with a definition PLN Personal Learning Network #eltchat any advance?
9:04 pm	rliberni:	@juanalejandro82 discussing student PLNs #eltchat
9:04 pm	katekidney:	Good evening, dear #ELTChat participants! :o)
9:04 pm	cybraryman1:	@ShaunwildenA PLN is a Personal Learning Network: My PLN page: http://tinyurl.com/4sn9psf #eltchat
9:04 pm	rliberni:	RT @cybraryman1: @ShaunwildenA PLN is a Personal Learning Network: My PLN page: http://tinyurl.com/4sn9psf #eltchat
9:04 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @cybraryman1: @ShaunwildenA PLN is a Personal Learning Network: My PLN page: http://tinyurl.com/4sn9psf #eltchat
9:05 pm	bcnpaul1:	Is it realistic to expect students in a classroom-based environment to form a PLN? #eltchat
9:05 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @thejamesabroad: #eltchat I'm obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Me too :-)
9:05 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Shaunwilden: RT @thejamesabroad: #eltchat I'm obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Me too :-)
9:05 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat I'm obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Fascinated to hear your experiences.
9:05 pm	rliberni:	I would say that these are sometimes formed naturally within a class #eltchat
9:05 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @tarabenwell: I introduced my online learners to the term PLN back in September. #ELTChat> I was new to PLNs back then too. Let alone sts
9:05 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @bcnpaul1: Is it realistic to expect students in a classroom-based environment to form a PLN? #eltchat
9:05 pm	Marisa_C:	PLN's inspired by commoncraft http://youtu.be/YEls3tq5wIY #ELTchat
9:05 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @rliberni: I would say that these are sometimes formed naturally within a class #eltchat
9:06 pm	rliberni:	PLNs nowadays are usually online but do they need to be? #eltchat
9:06 pm	tarabenwell:	For students a PLN is useful for motivation and practice. Disconnected learners can easily find a PLN these days. #ELTChat
9:06 pm	rliberni:	RT @Marisa_C: PLN's inspired by commoncraft http://youtu.be/YEls3tq5wIY #ELTchat
9:06 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @Marisa_C: PLN's inspired by commoncraft http://youtu.be/YEls3tq5wIY #ELTchat > I loved this the minute I saw it!
9:06 pm	ShellTerrell:	I think @rliberni & @tarabenwell can share a lot about their communities & how they help English language learners develop PLNs #ELTChat
9:06 pm	KarenInGreece:	For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat
9:06 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat Please ignore tweets from @thejamesabroad, it's my idiot alter ego. Doh...
9:06 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: For students a PLN is useful for motivation and practice. Disconnected learners can easily find a PLN these days. #ELTChat
9:06 pm	KarenInGreece:	RT @Shaunwilden: RT @thejamesabroad: #eltchat I'm obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Me too :-)
9:06 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @rliberni: PLNs nowadays are usually online but do they need to be? > I don't think so #eltchat
9:06 pm	cerirhiannon:	@rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat - though not necessarily online - is that a PLN?
9:06 pm	ShellTerrell:	Is the PLN concept age specific for students? #ELTChat
9:06 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @annapires: How about a school Facebook page? That's what I do to share useful links & info with sts. #ELTchat
9:06 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @bcnpaul1: RT @rliberni: PLNs nowadays are usually online but do they need to be? > I don't think so #eltchat
9:06 pm	ShellTerrell:	Great idea! RT @annapires: How about a school Facebook page? That's what I do to share useful links & info with sts. #ELTchat
9:06 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat - though not necessarily online - is that a PLN?
9:07 pm	treeves:	@bcnpaul1 seems like more of a career oriented support system #eltchat
9:07 pm	europeaantje:	RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat - though not necessarily online - is that a PLN?
9:07 pm	harrisonmike:	@rliberni PLNs new more internationally connected version of motivated and sharing staffroom as was? #eltchat
9:07 pm	fionamau:	RT @bcnpaul1: realistic 2 expect students in a classroom-based environment to form a PLN? #eltchat >> Hi. Is this the topic?PLNs in class?
9:07 pm	KarenInGreece:	RT @DinaDobrou: RT @tarabenwell: I introduced my online learners to the term PLN back in September. #ELTChat> I was new to PLNs back then too. Let alone sts
9:07 pm	tarabenwell:	I challenged my online learners to describe their PLN. I shared mine as a model: http://tinyurl.com/4a97v69 #ELTChat
9:07 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @ShellTerrell: Is the PLN concept age specific for students? #ELTChat > i think young learners are more able & willing
9:07 pm	harrisonmike:	@rliberni I count Ts at my college among PLN members - they give me fab ideas =) #eltchat
9:07 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @rliberni: I would say that these are sometimes formed naturally within a class #eltchat I'm not sure I gra? (cont) http://deck.ly/~sW13u
9:07 pm	rliberni:	My Gapfillers students have the chance to chat, play games together and form study-buddy groups all within the site #eltchat
9:07 pm	ShellTerrell:	I can't help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat
9:07 pm	europeaantje:	RT @harrisonmike: @rliberni I count Ts at my college among PLN members - they give me fab ideas =) #eltchat
9:07 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @rliberni: My Gapfillers students have the chance to chat, play games together and form study-buddy groups all within the site #eltchat
9:07 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @tarabenwell: For students a PLN is useful for motivation and practice. Disconnected learners can easily find a PLN these days. #ELTChat
9:08 pm	EclipsingX:	#eltchat how about blogging EDUBLOG has a student challenge to help students form links
9:08 pm	bcnpaul1:	@fionamau PLNs and students :-) #eltchat
9:08 pm	Shaunwilden:	@tarabenwell Thanks for the link that was really helpful #eltchat
9:08 pm	theteacherjames:	@rliberni #eltchat I guess an offline, classroom based support group can often form, and be seen as a PLN?
9:08 pm	fionamau:	@bcnpaul1 #eltchat Thank you, sir
9:08 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @EclipsingX: #eltchat how about blogging EDUBLOG has a student challenge to help students form links> And KIDBLOG for YLs!
9:08 pm	tarabenwell:	In my model I included colleagues, moderators, bloggers (some unrelated to ELT) #ELTChat
9:08 pm	harrisonmike:	How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat
9:09 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat
9:09 pm	juanalejandro82:	well, the already mentioned facebook and twitter are PLN #ELTChat
9:09 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @tarabenwell: In my model I included colleagues, moderators, bloggers (some unrelated to ELT) #ELTChat
9:09 pm	rliberni:	@Shaunwilden personally I think a PLN is a group of learners who come together 'naturally' to learn so cld be within a class #eltchat
9:09 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @tarabenwell: In my model I included colleagues, moderators, bloggers (some unrelated to ELT) #ELTChat
9:09 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat > yes, lots!
9:09 pm	bcnpaul1:	I think online courses or blended courses r more likely to foster student PLNs, especially courses leading to an exam #eltchat
9:09 pm	annabooklover:	RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat - though not necessarily online - is that a PLN?
9:09 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @cerirhiannon: RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat > yes, lots!
9:09 pm	CELT_Athens:	RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat> gd 1
9:09 pm	ianaddison:	@ShellTerrell we've started a map here in UK to find local teachers, want to join? Http://bit.ly/teachmap #eltchat
9:09 pm	DinaDobrou:	@rliberni @Shaunwilden What about penpals or epals? They are PLNs too. And the former are not online! #ELTchat
9:10 pm	katekidney:	When I created a Facebook group for my students to join in, may it be a case of PLN?#ELTChat
9:10 pm	rliberni:	@harrisonmike agree once we shared at conferences or with colleagues now we can share with many more ppl #eltchat
9:10 pm	tarabenwell:	Here is a student example: http://my.englishclub.com/profiles/blogs/my-pln #ELTChat
9:10 pm	EclipsingX:	@ShellTerrell I agree with you about student perspective. It would be good.) #ELTCHAT
9:10 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @katekidney: When I created a Facebook group for my students to join in, may it be a case of PLN?#ELTChat> yes
9:10 pm	harrisonmike:	@annapires But, remember, you can take the horse to water... PLN-forming not for everybody? Nor should it be, really #eltchat
9:10 pm	web20education:	Students circle network Meet Students In Over 120 Countries #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat #ntchat #education http://bit.ly/fVP45Z
9:10 pm	rliberni:	RT @DinaDobrou: @rliberni @Shaunwilden What about penpals or epals? They are PLNs too. And the former are not online! #ELTchat
9:10 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @tarabenwell: Here is a student example: http://bit.ly/ii8dQq #ELTChat
9:10 pm	bcnpaul1:	getting students to blog and then build relationships with other students who comment #eltchat
9:10 pm	theteacherjames:	RT @ShellTerrell: I can't help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat - I think that about a lot of things!
9:10 pm	annabooklover:	Hello #eltchat friends! I think sts form their PLNs in conventional classrooms too!
9:10 pm	rliberni:	@DinaDobrou I think they are all forms of PLN #eltchat
9:10 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @harrisonmike: @annapires But, remember, you can take the horse to water... PLN-forming not for everybody? Nor should it be, really #eltchat
9:10 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @annabooklover: Hello #eltchat friends! I think sts form their PLNs in conventional classrooms too! > true
9:10 pm	ShellTerrell:	@Shaunwilden @rliberni I don't necessarily agree with naturally because it requires some maintenance & participation for it to work #ELTChat
9:11 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Marisa_C: RT @annabooklover: Hello #eltchat friends! I think sts form their PLNs in conventional classrooms too! > true
9:11 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @ShellTerrell: I can't help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat - I think that about a lot of things!
9:11 pm	harrisonmike:	I try to disseminate events I'm at (BC, ELT days, conferences) for staff at my college thru a blog. Not sure how many read tho #eltchat
9:11 pm	Shaunwilden:	@rliberni Thanks and I guess like us they can be connected internationally as well #ELTChat
9:11 pm	fionamau:	RT @ShellTerrell: I can't help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat
9:11 pm	europeaantje:	I´ve never used the term PLN with my sts but I foster group cohesion,reflection on learning and they/we got the bar after class :-) #eltchat
9:11 pm	annabooklover:	A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat
9:11 pm	merylvdm:	My own teens connect through online forums and Facebook - they share essays written for school, new technologies, educational sites #eltchat
9:11 pm	Shaunwilden:	@ShellTerrell So it requires the teacher to take part? #ELTChat
9:11 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @europeaantje: I´ve never used the term PLN with my sts but I foster group cohesion,reflection on learning and they/we got the bar after class :-) #eltchat
9:11 pm	harrisonmike:	RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat
9:11 pm	Lemness:	Can i ask - what does #eltchat mean?
9:11 pm	tarabenwell:	@katekidney Totally! EnglishClub has a Facebook page with thousands of learners worldwide. Many now practice English together.#ELTChat
9:12 pm	DinaDobrou:	@ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni Especially if ur introducing them to the online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T's part #ELTchat
9:12 pm	rliberni:	@ShellTerrell I have to say to get my Gapfillers folk to do this takes a lot of 'pushing' but physically it may be easier #eltchat
9:12 pm	ShellTerrell:	@Shaunwilden Not necessarily but I think it's good if the student includes their teacher & wants to in their PLN #ELTchat
9:12 pm	bcnpaul1:	A lot of our students study for only 3 hrs a week & I wonder how motivated they are outside of those 3 hrs to form a PLN #eltchat
9:12 pm	rliberni:	@Lemness English language teachers chat #eltchat
9:12 pm	NewsNeus:	RT @ShellTerrell: Great idea! RT @annapires: How about a school Facebook page? That's what I do to share useful links & info with sts. #ELTchat
9:12 pm	europeaantje:	RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat \| yes!
9:12 pm	ShellTerrell:	@Shaunwilden @rliberni Perhaps with some communities it takes a moderator or a few leaders to guide others? #ELTChat
9:12 pm	tarabenwell:	@europeaantje I hadn't either, but then I thought PLN actually has a nice ring to it. They might like it! #ELTChat
9:12 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: @europeaantje I hadn't either, but then I thought PLN actually has a nice ring to it. They might like it! #ELTChat
9:13 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @bcnpaul1: A lot of students study for only 3 hrs a wk - how motivated they are outside of those 3 hrs to form PLN #eltchat>blogs help
9:13 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @DinaDobrou: Especially if ur introducing them to the online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T's part #ELTchat
9:13 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @europeaantje: RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat \| yes!
9:13 pm	EclipsingX:	#ELTCHAT my learners were shocked at the thought of facebook for ed. One told me he had closed all SM accounts because he =dlstracted
9:13 pm	Shaunwilden:	@towittertoo we use epals between classes in our school network which is international, does that count? #ELTChat
9:13 pm	fionamau:	RT @rliberni: @Shaunwilden personally I think a PLN is a group of learners who come together 'naturally' to learn so cld be within a class #eltchat
9:13 pm	harrisonmike:	@bcnpaul1 3hrs not enough to improve, IMO. Those sts HAVE TO do extra to succeed #eltchat But PLN or other info sources most useful??
9:13 pm	DinaDobrou:	@towittertoo @rliberni @Shaunwilden Hm, true. I was thinking of matching classes between the group of schools I work for. #ELTchat
9:13 pm	europeaantje:	RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell So it requires the teacher to take part? #ELTChat \| no. why? sts can support each other, too
9:13 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @ShellTerrell: RT @DinaDobrou: if ur introducing them to online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T's part #ELTchat > and patience
9:13 pm	Marisa_C:	@tarabenwell I think the term PLN kind of formalises sth and makes Ss more aware of the need to form it and maintain it #ELTChat
9:13 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @europeaantje: RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell So it requires the teacher to take part? #ELTChat \| no. why? sts can support each other, too
9:13 pm	tarabenwell:	@bcnpaul1 Maybe they need a group interest other than merely "learning English". For example, learners who like music. #ELTChat
9:13 pm	rliberni:	@ShellTerrell I think that is true a ot depends on the makeup of your group - mine are quite slow no real catalysts as yet #eltchat
9:14 pm	bcnpaul1:	@cerirhiannon agree w/ the blogs comment. anything like that motivates them to direct their own learning is a great help #eltchat
9:14 pm	Lemness:	@rliberni thank u so much. Im not an english teacher but its fascinating to watch the interaction. #eltchat
9:14 pm	kmhmartin:	RT @europeaantje: RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat \| yes!
9:14 pm	kmhmartin:	RT @ShellTerrell: RT @DinaDobrou: Especially if ur introducing them to the online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T's part #ELTchat
9:14 pm	rliberni:	@annapires I would think it might be a few members of a class - the class is a bit artificial #eltchat
9:14 pm	ShellTerrell:	@cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 But isn't the PLN participation part of studying? Maybe more meaningful than HMWK give by instructor? #ELTChat
9:14 pm	oflazmerve:	RT @EclipsingX: less than 24 hours until the BC ELT bloggers reveal their intense 28 day experiences. Very excited! RU? #ECLPSCHAT #ELTCHAT #EDCHAT #ELT
9:14 pm	tarabenwell:	@harrisonmike @bcnpaul1 Please invite them to MyEC. It's free and fun and growing quickly! There's something for everyone. #ELTChat
9:14 pm	DinaDobrou:	Etwinning...a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat
9:14 pm	theteacherjames:	@Shaunwilden @shellterrell #eltchat ...or need a teacher to get the ball rolling?
9:14 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @ShellTerrell: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 But isn't the PLN participation part of studying? Maybe more meaningful than HMWK give by instructor? #ELTChat
9:14 pm	rliberni:	@Lemness no problem yes it must be from your perspective #eltchat
9:14 pm	annabooklover:	But let us not forget that there are kids who have neither parents who can help, nor internet, nor friends nearby. #eltchat
9:15 pm	europeaantje:	@bcnpaul1 sts are motivated to create "PLN" out of own interest: what do you do? how did you do this? what was the homework? #eltchat
9:15 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @annabooklover: But let us not forget that there are kids who have neither parents who can help, nor internet, nor friends nearby. #eltchat
9:15 pm	rliberni:	RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden @shellterrell #eltchat ...or need a teacher to get the ball rolling?
9:15 pm	Teacherhorizons:	@Lemness @rliberni I completely agree #eltchat
9:15 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 sts are motivated to create "PLN" out of own interest: what do you do? how did you do this? what was the homework? #eltchat
9:15 pm	rliberni:	RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 sts are motivated to create "PLN" out of own interest: what do you do? how did you do this? what was the homework? #eltchat
9:15 pm	bcnpaul1:	@ShellTerrell @cerirhiannon true but sometimes hmwk is a start along the path to greater involvement in their own learning #eltchat
9:15 pm	katekidney:	http://www.helpforenglish.cz/ this is a kind of PLN for Czech and even other students, thanks to Marek Vít and his coworkers!#ELTChat
9:15 pm	fionamau:	RT @annapires: Students need to be motivated to form their PLN. Not all teachers are motivated to form their own. #ELTchat
9:15 pm	merylvdm:	I teach a Media class and this semester they are all required to blog - and I am encouraging them to comment on each other's. #ELTchat
9:15 pm	Lemness:	I will just lurk and listen. RT @Teacherhorizons: @Lemness @rliberni I completely agree #eltchat
9:16 pm	ShellTerrell:	@bcnpaul1 @cerirhiannon Many teachers who aren't using PLNs like us don't give this kind of hmwk they give wkshts & drills #Eltchat
9:16 pm	rliberni:	@DinaDobrou good idea & there will probably be some who gravitate towards a subgrp and want to meet online? #eltchat
9:16 pm	bcnpaul1:	@tarabenwell thanks Tara. I'll have a look after this #eltchat
9:16 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @bcnpaul1: @ShellTerrell @cerirhiannon sometimes hmwk is a start along the path to greater involvement #eltchat> shared hwk tasks helps
9:16 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @rliberni: @DinaDobrou good idea & there will probably be some who gravitate towards a subgrp and want to meet online? #eltchat
9:16 pm	tarabenwell:	@Marisa_C Agreed! When I challenged them to identify their PLN, some worried about leaving people out. I learned. :) #ELTChat
9:16 pm	fionamau:	#eltchat my experience is that the groups that have a 'social English' element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN.
9:16 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @merylvdm: I teach a Media class and this semester they are all required to blog - and I am encouraging them to comment on each other's. #ELTchat
9:16 pm	europeaantje:	RT @annapires: Can a class form a PLN? Or does it have to an individual thing? #ELTchat \| ideally a class would be a PLN ???
9:16 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @katekidney: http://www.helpforenglish.cz/ this is a kind of PLN for Czech and even other students, thanks to Marek Vít and his coworkers!#ELTChat
9:16 pm	bcnpaul1:	@ShellTerrell true. And it's a real shame #eltchat
9:16 pm	treeves:	@fionamau so true #eltchat
9:17 pm	ShellTerrell:	Gr8 point! RT @annapires: Students need to be motivated to form their PLN. Not all teachers are motivated to form their own. #ELTchat
9:17 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @fionamau: #eltchat ... 'social English' element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN. > social element can also be online
9:17 pm	annabooklover:	RT @DinaDobrou: Etwinning...a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat
9:17 pm	tarabenwell:	RT @merylvdm: I teach a Media class and this semester they are all required to blog - and I am encouraging them to comment on each other's. #ELTchat
9:17 pm	bcnpaul1:	@ShellTerrell how do you get your students involved in forming a PLN? #eltchat
9:17 pm	rliberni:	RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 point! RT @annapires: Students need to be motivated to form their PLN. Not all teachers are motivated to form their own. #ELTchat
9:17 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @DinaDobrou: Etwinning...a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat
9:17 pm	fionamau:	#eltchat for example summer intensive classes that have a coffee break 'across the road', or Friday drink after class
9:17 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @bcnpaul1: @ShellTerrell how do you get your students involved in forming a PLN? #eltchat Yes do tell am curious :-)
9:17 pm	ShellTerrell:	Really good question! RT @bcnpaul1: how do you get your students involved in forming a PLN? #eltchat
9:17 pm	tarabenwell:	@merylvdm Great! If you can let them know that commenting is equally important right from the beginning, they will thrive! #ELTChat
9:18 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @annapires: Can a class form a PLN? Or does it have to an individual thing? #ELTchat \| ideally a class would be a PLN ???
9:18 pm	europeaantje:	RT @fionamau: #eltchat my experience is that the groups that have a 'social English' element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN.
9:18 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @bcnpaul1: RT @annapires: Can a class form a PLN? Or does it have to an individual thing? #ELTchat \| ideally a class would be a PLN ???
9:18 pm	rliberni:	@bcnpaul1 @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden mine sign up on my site then I make opps for them to meet #eltchat
9:18 pm	hermonhermit:	RT @DinaDobrou: Etwinning...a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat
9:18 pm	harrisonmike:	#eltchat PLN would be a very difficult concept and the tools would be tricky for ESOL students (e.g. asylum seekers)
9:19 pm	ShellTerrell:	@Shaunwilden @bcnpaul1 Honestly I motivate them to join established communities like Gapfillers, Voxopop, & My English Club #ELTChat
9:19 pm	EclipsingX:	@cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I am trying a non pressure blog approach. each has their own and they research when and how they want to. #ELTCHAT
9:19 pm	DinaDobrou:	@rliberni We already have that in my school. I'm working on bringing it online. #ELTchat
9:19 pm	harrisonmike:	#eltchat many tools and sites that we use to form and maintain PLN are very 'busy'. That would overwhelm some sts.
9:19 pm	cerirhiannon:	@bcnpaul1 @annapires or class would be starting point4 PLN - icontact could be taken beyond the class eg via sharing blogs #eltchat
9:19 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @ShellTerrell: @Shaunwilden @bcnpaul1 Honestly I motivate them to join established communities like Gapfillers, Voxopop, & My English Club #ELTChat
9:19 pm	rliberni:	@cerirhiannon I think a class is put together & I think a PLN has to find it's own identity there has to b a common link #eltchat
9:19 pm	tarabenwell:	@ShellTerrell @bcnpaul1 Model! Tell them about your PLN (give real examples). E.g. I got invited to present at a conference...#ELTChat
9:19 pm	harrisonmike:	#eltchat Perhaps start with something like @cerirhiannon's emailing members of the class to support each other?
9:19 pm	ShellTerrell:	Gr8 idea! RT @EclipsingX: I am trying a non pressure blog approach. each has their own they research when & how they want to. #ELTCHAT
9:19 pm	treeves:	@Shaunwilden one way is to demonstrate our own #eltchat
9:20 pm	cerirhiannon:	@rliberni sometimes being a class that studies together can be the common link? #eltchat
9:20 pm	rliberni:	@cerirhiannon I think if there was an opp for class members to form an online group not all wld want to so a PLN wld emerge #eltchat
9:20 pm	springrose12:	@fionamau :)) I completely agree:) Let's hope that our 12 to 15 yr olds are NOT building their PLN this way:) Imagine the hangover #eltchat
9:20 pm	ShellTerrell:	I like this! RT @cerirhiannon: sometimes being a class that studies together can be the common link? #eltchat
9:20 pm	harrisonmike:	Ok, fascinating #eltchat as ever. Enjoy everyone. I have one question though: Where is @olafelch???
9:20 pm	DinaDobrou:	I introduced my sts to 'online interaction' through sth simple (wallwishers) and recently moved some of them to blogging. #ELTchat
9:20 pm	europeaantje:	RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni sometimes being a class that studies together can be the common link? #eltchat
9:20 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @annapires: When we talk about student PLN's, what age group? Adults? Teens? #ELTchat
9:20 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @treeves: @Shaunwilden one way is to demonstrate our own #eltchat - yes good point
9:20 pm	bcnpaul1:	@tarabenwell does that work.? #eltchat
9:20 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @DinaDobrou: I introduced my sts to 'online interaction' through sth simple (wallwishers) and recently moved some of them to blogging. #ELTchat
9:21 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat Do we think that creating a successful class PLN may be a side effect of successfully creating rapport among the students?
9:21 pm	annabooklover:	RT @fionamau: #eltchat my experience is that the groups that have a 'social English' element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN.
9:21 pm	rliberni:	@cerirhiannon this is true but I think it would be more of a starting point #eltchat
9:21 pm	europeaantje:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Do we think that creating a successful class PLN may be a side effect of successfully creating rapport among the students?
9:21 pm	ShellTerrell:	@DinaDobrou I do that too! They like that! They also enjoy meeting other students via Skype & keeping in touch with them #eltchat
9:21 pm	katekidney:	Does anyone work with Wiki with their students?#ELTChat
9:21 pm	europeaantje:	@theteacherjames we do! #eltchat
9:21 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Do we think that creating a successful class PLN may be a side effect of successfully creating rapport among the students?
9:21 pm	web20education:	Pls add feedback,share , rt Building a powerfull #PLN in XXI Century Education #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat #cck11 #COSN11 http://t.co/a2c20Qa
9:21 pm	Shaunwilden:	Did we get anywhere with a eltstudent chat idea that came up a cple of weeks ago i guess that would count as well, wouldn't it? #eltchat
9:21 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @annapires: When we talk about student PLN's, what age group? Adults? Teens? #ELTchat > I do both. edublogs for adults kidblog for YLs.
9:21 pm	theteacherjames:	RT @rliberni: @cerirhiannon I think a class is put together & I think a PLN has to find it's own identity there has to b a common link #eltchat
9:22 pm	rliberni:	@cerirhiannon if the whole class worked together on everything then it would be a gr8 PLN #eltchat
9:22 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @annapires: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat
9:22 pm	tarabenwell:	Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat
9:22 pm	rliberni:	RT @annapires: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat
9:22 pm	fionamau:	@springrose12 teehee. #eltchat I usually start teen classes in the waiting area, tho, not in the classroom. Similar effect, curiously.
9:22 pm	Marisa_C:	@Shaunwilden No we didn't but @chucksandy and others still keen and asking for help - we got to do that #eltchat
9:22 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @annapires: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs.> agree #eltchat
9:22 pm	juandoming:	RT @web20education: Pls add feedback,share , rt Building a powerfull #PLN in XXI Century Education #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat #cck11 #COSN11 http://t.co/a2c20Qa
9:22 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @annapires: I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat
9:22 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat
9:22 pm	cerirhiannon:	@rliberni I had one class that did - was an amazing experience - haven't had a chance to repeat it yet! #eltchat
9:23 pm	juandoming:	RT @tarabenwell: Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat
9:23 pm	EclipsingX:	@ShellTerrell #ELTCHAT when the learners are ready they can tell me if they want to. I have also taught them how to do HTML code embedding
9:23 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @tarabenwell: Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat
9:23 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @ShellTerrell: RT @annapires: I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat
9:23 pm	katekidney:	@theteacherjames YES! :o) #ELTChat
9:23 pm	rliberni:	@cerirhiannon I guess it depends on the characters. Often a PLN will have a catalyst or two #eltchat
9:23 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @fionamau: @springrose12 teehee. #eltchat I usually start teen classes in the waiting area, tho, not in the classroom. Similar effect, curiously.
9:23 pm	tarabenwell:	@bcnpaul1 It helps me introduce learners to power of FB, twitter, blogs. I think sts like to know that you are learning too! #ELTChat
9:24 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: @bcnpaul1 It helps me introduce learners to power of FB, twitter, blogs. I think sts like to know that you are learning too! #ELTChat
9:24 pm	DinaDobrou:	@ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother's blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9
9:24 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @rliberni: @cerirhiannon I guess it depends on the characters. Often a PLN will have a catalyst or two #eltchat > or 3 or 4 ;)
9:24 pm	rliberni:	RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother's blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9
9:24 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat @annapires @shellterrell I've seen it works for adults (before I even knew what a PLN was!)
9:24 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother's blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9
9:24 pm	ShellTerrell:	@naomishema Sorry we're talking about students & developing PLNs #ELTChat
9:25 pm	tarabenwell:	@harrisonmike They can start in a community by just lurking. #ELTChat
9:25 pm	EclipsingX:	@ShellTerrell #ELTCHAT wlth HTML & widgets they really start wanting to learn on the net beyond ENG.)
9:25 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: @harrisonmike They can start in a community by just lurking. #ELTChat
9:25 pm	cerirhiannon:	let ss know that I learn from them, need them 4course to be a success - ithat they're part of my PLN -it's a good starting point 2 #eltchat
9:25 pm	fionamau:	RT @harrisonmike: Ok, fascinating #eltchat as ever. Enjoy everyone. I have one question though: Where is @olafelch???
9:25 pm	ShellTerrell:	#eltchat @DinaDobrou: I believe there is a hashtag #Comment4ELT ?
9:26 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @tarabenwell: @harrisonmike They can start in a community by just lurking. #ELTChat > yes, it may take time but this Ok
9:26 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother's blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9
9:26 pm	tarabenwell:	RT @cerirhiannon: let ss know that I learn from them, need them 4course to be a success - ithat they're part of my PLN -it's a good starting point 2 #eltchat
9:26 pm	europeaantje:	RT @cerirhiannon: let ss know that I learn from them, need them 4course to be a success - ithat they're part of my PLN -it's a good starting point 2 #eltchat
9:26 pm	DinaDobrou:	@ShellTerrell I didn't know. Thanks for telling me. Will look into it. :) #ELTchat
9:27 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Marisa_C: RT @tarabenwell: @harrisonmike #ELTChat > yes, it may take time but this Ok > good to tell them that you value lurking too :)
9:27 pm	europeaantje:	@cerirhiannon explore things together, use sts in experiments, ... ;-))) #eltchat
9:27 pm	rliberni:	Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat
9:27 pm	tarabenwell:	@ShellTerrell @DinaDobrou Is that a hashtag for teachers or learners? #ELTChat
9:27 pm	Marisa_C:	@cerirhiannon Indeed! Just like sitting back and listening is also learning #ELTChat
9:27 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @europeaantje: @cerirhiannon explore things together, use sts in experiments, ... ;-))) #eltchat > yup, the Hawthorne syndrome ;)
9:27 pm	ShellTerrell:	@tarabenwell @DinaDobrou It's for anyone to comment on student work #ELtchat
9:28 pm	bcnpaul1:	@cerirhiannon yes - lurking is the best way to find your feet and see how it can work for you #eltchat
9:28 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @rliberni: Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat
9:28 pm	europeaantje:	RT @rliberni: Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat \| blog, VLE such as moodle
9:28 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @rliberni: Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat
9:28 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Indeed! Just like sitting back and listening is also learning #ELTChat > absolutely &listeners are important 2!
9:28 pm	ShellTerrell:	@rliberni Had the wiki which is great to show student work & this year I want to try Edmodo for PLN #ELTchat
9:28 pm	MarcelleMcGhee:	#eltchat maybe u can start PLN on a small scale, btw classes. Test it out, tweak any oops that comes up. Then PLN btw schools etc..
9:28 pm	EclipsingX:	@rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT
9:28 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @EclipsingX: @rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT
9:28 pm	bcnpaul1:	@rliberni I would like to do more of it, but at the moment all classroom / blog / wiki-based #eltchat
9:29 pm	ShellTerrell:	@MarcelleMcGhee Great idea! #ELTchat
9:29 pm	rliberni:	@ShellTerrell wikis are great #eltchat or a class blog to start with
9:29 pm	Teacherhorizons:	@DinaDobrou @rliberni you could create a blog and show on there #eltchat
9:29 pm	Marisa_C:	From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time - not everything at once #ELTchat
9:29 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @MarcelleMcGhee: #eltchat maybe u can start PLN on a small scale, btw classes. Test it out, tweak any oops that comes up. Then PLN btw schools etc..
9:29 pm	europeaantje:	@ShellTerrell @rliberni Edmodo great online communication tool #ELTchat
9:29 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @europeaantje: RT @rliberni: anybody offer online space 2complement classwork? #eltchat \| blog, VLE such as moodle> blog, group emails
9:29 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time - not everything at once #ELTchat
9:29 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat So correct me if I'm wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group - encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc?
9:29 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time - not everything at once #ELTchat
9:29 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time - not everything at once #ELTchat > totally, take it gently
9:29 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @europeaantje: Edmodo great online communication tool #ELTchat
9:29 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I'm wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group - encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc?
9:29 pm	rliberni:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I'm wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group - encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc?
9:29 pm	annabooklover:	RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time - not everything at once #ELTchat
9:29 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @rliberni: wikis are great #eltchat or a class blog to start with
9:29 pm	Fonts4Teachers:	@rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT
9:29 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I'm wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group - encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc?
9:30 pm	rliberni:	@theteacherjames yes, that but really another space to learn #eltchat
9:30 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time - not everything at once #ELTchat > follow students' lead
9:30 pm	ShellTerrell:	What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat
9:30 pm	rliberni:	RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat
9:30 pm	bcnpaul1:	collaborizeclassroom is a nice one to use for building student PLNs #eltchat
9:30 pm	annabooklover:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I'm wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group - encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc?
9:30 pm	tarabenwell:	@Marisa_C @cerirhiannon @kalinagoenglish made that really important point here about chat rooms: http://tinyurl.com/48gtout #ELTChat
9:30 pm	ulrikajonson:	RT @EclipsingX: @rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT
9:30 pm	EclipsingX:	@ShellTerrell could you explain more about EDMODO #ELTCHAT
9:30 pm	ShellTerrell:	@theteacherjames definitely a major part of it but also language needs to be practiced with others outside the class #ELTChat
9:30 pm	NorthernGrid:	RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat
9:30 pm	rliberni:	@Fonts4Teachers this is true and they may want to explore areas that we as teachers don't have time in class to exploit #eltchat
9:31 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think try one thing each time-not everything at once #ELTchat>Yup, so much to do so little time
9:31 pm	ShellTerrell:	@EclipsingX It's like Twitter but you can attach links, files, & make it private #ELTChat
9:31 pm	Marisa_C:	Or group Ss around one tool & have them work on it for a bit - makes everyone curious & excited abt what others are doing #ELTchat
9:31 pm	yohimar:	True RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time - not everything at once #ELTchat
9:31 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: @Marisa_C @cerirhiannon @kalinagoenglish made that really important point here about chat rooms: http://tinyurl.com/48gtout #ELTChat
9:31 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @Marisa_C: Or group Ss around one tool & have them work on it for a bit - makes everyone curious & excited abt what others are doing #ELTchat
9:31 pm	harrisonmike:	Ok, get them lurking 1st. But pln still difficult concept with sts who try to move mouse cursor by lifting the mouse! #eltchat
9:31 pm	katekidney:	To sum up:at what age may be used what PLN online tools? Is it written somewhere?#ELTChat
9:31 pm	EclipsingX:	RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat yes pls where 2 find learners
9:31 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @harrisonmike: Ok, get them lurking 1st. But pln still difficult concept with sts who try to move mouse cursor by lifting the mouse! #eltchat
9:31 pm	tarabenwell:	@ShellTerrell #twinglish is a useful one for developing PLN. If students use twitter in their own language first it helps. #ELTChat
9:31 pm	rliberni:	@harrisonmike Lol :-) #eltchat
9:32 pm	bcnpaul1:	obvious beauty in student PLN is that it's using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat
9:32 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @harrisonmike: pln still difficult concept with sts who try to move mouse cursor by lifting the mouse! #eltchat > ;) I hear you!
9:32 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @tarabenwell: @ShellTerrell #twinglish is a useful one for developing PLN. If students use twitter in their own language first it helps. #ELTChat
9:32 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: @ShellTerrell #twinglish is a useful one for developing PLN. If students use twitter in their own language first it helps. #ELTChat
9:32 pm	MarcelleMcGhee:	#eltchat like idea of PLN as support group. Many kids feel on the "outside" or r too shy or afraid to communicate" at sch.
9:32 pm	HeikePhilp:	@ShellTerrell Twitter of course but also to join oneself to existiing networks, i.e NING sites #eltchat
9:32 pm	rliberni:	RT @bcnpaul1: obvious beauty in student PLN is that it's using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat
9:32 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @Marisa_C: Or group Ss around 1 tool & have them work on it - makes everyone curious & excited abt what others are doing #ELTchat >GR8!
9:32 pm	ShellTerrell:	Great idea! RT @heikephilp: Twitter of course but also to join oneself to existiing networks, i.e NING sites #eltchat
9:32 pm	rliberni:	@bcnpaul1 yes, so therefore is a very powerful learning tool #eltchat
9:32 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @bcnpaul1: obvious beauty in student PLN is that it's using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat
9:32 pm	rliberni:	RT @ShellTerrell: Great idea! RT @heikephilp: Twitter of course but also to join oneself to existiing networks, i.e NING sites #eltchat
9:33 pm	cerirhiannon:	has anyone used twiducate? don't know it myself #eltchat
9:33 pm	annabooklover:	#eltchat is always so illuminating but also makes me feel a bit sad at how little I can do...one thing at a time Anna
9:33 pm	fionamau:	RT @bcnpaul1: obvious beauty in student PLN is that it's using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat
9:33 pm	EclipsingX:	@ShellTerrell thanks so many things to explore! #ELTCHAT .)
9:33 pm	web20education:	#Sophia - New Platform Uses Social Features To Improve Online #Education . Make Here #PLN #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat http://ning.it/e8j1ga
9:33 pm	rliberni:	@erinneo does it act as a communication space too? #eltchat
9:33 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat @ShellTerrell @rliberni I see. So it's an extension of our idea of a teacher's PLN, with a whole practical element.
9:33 pm	rliberni:	RT @web20education: #Sophia - New Platform Uses Social Features To Improve Online #Education . Make Here #PLN #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat http://ning.it/e8j1ga
9:33 pm	Marisa_C:	@cerirhiannon I ve used twiducate with trainees new to twitter - @VictoriaB52 has used with her ss #eltchat
9:34 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @annabooklover: #eltchat one thing at a time is the best way forward or it gets too overwhelming :-)
9:34 pm	rliberni:	@theteacherjames I would say so #eltchat
9:34 pm	rliberni:	RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon I ve used twiducate with trainees new to twitter - @VictoriaB52 has used with her ss #eltchat
9:34 pm	tarabenwell:	17,000 on EC's FB page if your sts prefer Facebook. A good place for a starter PLN: http://tinyurl.com/ma48w7 #ELTChat
9:34 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @tarabenwell: 17,000 on EC's FB page if your sts prefer Facebook. A good place for a starter PLN: http://tinyurl.com/ma48w7 #ELTChat
9:34 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: 17,000 on EC's FB page if your sts prefer Facebook. A good place for a starter PLN: http://tinyurl.com/ma48w7 #ELTChat
9:34 pm	theteacherjames:	Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat
9:34 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Shaunwilden: RT @annabooklover: #eltchat one thing at a time is the best way forward or it gets too overwhelming :-) > 4 Ts and Ss alike
9:34 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @theteacherjames: Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat
9:34 pm	EclipsingX:	@annabooklover the important thing is to have clear goals and do that one little thing bit by bit.) #ELTCHAT
9:35 pm	europeaantje:	RT @theteacherjames: Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat
9:35 pm	DinaDobrou:	@EclipsingX My list of web2.0 tools is already endless & sometimes overwhelming but it's good to know you have tricks up ur sleeve! #ELTchat
9:35 pm	Marisa_C:	@theteacherjames Connect with other teachers and may be create a small network with group.ly or grou.ps ? #eltchat
9:35 pm	theteacherjames:	RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat
9:35 pm	ShellTerrell:	@theteacherjames For adults it's gr8 2 find social netwks involving their interests, work like LinkedIn Architect/lawyer/etc group #eltchat
9:36 pm	EclipsingX:	@theteacherjames edublogs also has an individual student option #ELTCHAT
9:36 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @theteacherjames: RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat
9:36 pm	springrose12:	@harrisonmike incredible, you've Ss like that..We can't take the blackberries out of our Ss hands.They're stuck to their hands. #eltchat
9:36 pm	erinneo:	@rliberni Yes, the communication is school based, so discussion forums for questions, or sharing links. Not much after school use. #eltchat
9:36 pm	rliberni:	@theteacherjames my site is for adults & mostly at upper int/adv level it's slow going but we're getting there ppl getting involved #eltchat
9:36 pm	europeaantje:	mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences?
9:36 pm	rliberni:	@erinneo are they students or teachers? #eltchat
9:36 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences?
9:37 pm	rliberni:	RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences?
9:37 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences?
9:37 pm	tarabenwell:	My dream is for English teachers to join MyEC with their learners. As it stands now it is mainly disconnected learners. #ELTChat
9:37 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: My dream is for English teachers to join MyEC with their learners. As it stands now it is mainly disconnected learners. #ELTChat
9:37 pm	europeaantje:	@bcnpaul1 what´s collaborizeclassroom, Paul? #ELTchat
9:38 pm	Shaunwilden:	@tarabenwell Have you tried to encourage teachers to do this? #ELTchat
9:38 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences?
9:38 pm	rliberni:	@tarabenwell mine too I'd love schools to take it on and then the community could really grow and develop #eltchat
9:38 pm	tarabenwell:	Or if they want a PLN of Skypers: http://my.englishclub.com/group/skypers #ELTChat
9:38 pm	europeaantje:	oh and the bar on the corner #eltchat
9:38 pm	Marisa_C:	@europeaantje Thank you sir for summarising points :-) #twinglish #eltchat
9:38 pm	rliberni:	RT @tarabenwell: Or if they want a PLN of Skypers: http://my.englishclub.com/group/skypers #ELTChat
9:38 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 what´s collaborizeclassroom, Paul? #ELTchat Is it this ? http://bit.ly/ej3oGa
9:38 pm	ShellTerrell:	In order for our students to develop a true PLN shouldn't we encourage them to include professional peers as well? #ELTChat
9:38 pm	springrose12:	@harrisonmike They can even text under the desks without seeing the letters. I suppose they can feel and smell mobile phones now. #eltchat
9:38 pm	rliberni:	RT @Shaunwilden: RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 what´s collaborizeclassroom, Paul? #ELTchat Is it this ? http://bit.ly/ej3oGa
9:38 pm	europeaantje:	@Marisa_C I´m not trying to get a job or anything :-) #eltchat
9:38 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @tarabenwell: Or if they want a PLN of Skypers: http://my.englishclub.com/group/skypers #ELTChat
9:38 pm	bcnpaul1:	@europeaantje http://bit.ly/ej3oGa it's a way of setting up private discussion forums for your sts / anyone who's a member. #eltchat
9:39 pm	EclipsingX:	RT @DinaDobrou: @EclipsingX its like learning teaching all over again exhausting but very exciting! #ELTchat
9:39 pm	theteacherjames:	RT @Marisa_C: Connect with other teachers and may be create a small network with group.ly or grou.ps ? #eltchat - Great idea - thanks!
9:39 pm	Marisa_C:	@europeaantje No? You disappoint me...:-) #eltchat
9:39 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @europeaantje: @Marisa_C I´m not trying to get a job or anything :-) #eltchat We're looking for volunteers ;-)
9:39 pm	rliberni:	@ShellTerrell yes and what a great place to network internationally #eltchat
9:39 pm	katekidney:	Maybe the easier online PLN the better +certainly one at a time. I've started with Facebook gr and blogs, think about Wiki.#eltchat
9:39 pm	theteacherjames:	RT @ShellTerrell: For adults it's gr8 2 find social netwks involving their interests, work like LinkedIn Architect/lawyer/etc group #eltchat
9:40 pm	rliberni:	RT @katekidney: Maybe the easier online PLN the better +certainly one at a time. I've started with Facebook gr and blogs, think about Wiki.#eltchat
9:43 pm	cerirhiannon:	has the chat frozen or is it just my tweetdeck? #eltchat
9:43 pm	LucyBlakemore:	RT @NavitarDiaries: The Navitar Diaries: Exploring with the blue bird http://t.co/AJX2Prp #eltchat #whoisnavitar
9:43 pm	annabooklover:	Great ideas as always, looking forward to the transcript #eltchat. Goodnight friends...
9:44 pm	nikosdt:	RT @DinaDobrou Etwinning...a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat
9:44 pm	DinaDobrou:	@cerirhiannon My tweetdeck froze too! #ELTchat
9:44 pm	anrgon:	Institutional VLE vs. Informal PLN? PLN in and out the classroom? Online vs. offline PLN? #ELTChat
9:44 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @cerirhiannon: has the chat frozen or is it just my tweetdeck? #eltchat Not sure but was wondering the same
9:44 pm	web20education:	In 2 days I will launch a #PLN topic with thousounds of #edtools to use to build a passionate learning network #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt
9:44 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @Shaunwilden: RT @cerirhiannon: has the chat frozen? #eltchat Not sure but was wondering the same > seems to be back again :)
9:44 pm	europeaantje:	#eltchat too much for #tweetdeck :-)
9:45 pm	harrisonmike:	@springrose12 lol! I teach some sts who have been in this country for 10+ years but still can't read or write English... #eltchat
9:48 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @europeaantje: #eltchat too much for #tweetdeck :-) LOL we burnt the house down!
9:48 pm	erinneo:	@rliberni Both. There are spaces for teachers, spaces for students, and shared spaces. #eltchat
9:48 pm	bcnpaul1:	My tweetdeck frozen #eltchat
9:49 pm	bcnpaul1:	@shaunwilden @cerirhiannon everyone is speechless (or having a crafty beer) #eltchat
9:49 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @cerirhiannon: has the chat frozen or is it just my tweetdeck? #eltchat it has
9:49 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @bcnpaul1: My tweetdeck frozen #eltchat > Mine too. Can't see anything new. nice to see your tweet come up! lol
9:50 pm	cerirhiannon:	yeah! it's back :)) #eltchat
9:50 pm	fionamau:	#eltchat So what do u reckon's main 'ingredient' in getting studentPLN 2work? I reckon they have 2 LIKE each other - how do we nurture that?
9:50 pm	web20education:	Teacher Training for Web 2.0 #edtech20 #elearning #socialmedia #web20chat #eltchat #edchat #edreform #cck11 #cosn11 http://scr.bi/gfU3RW
9:51 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat Are we back?
9:51 pm	fionamau:	RT @bcnpaul1:@shaunwilden @cerirhiannon everyone is speechless (or having a crafty beer) #eltchat >Hey! How can you see me? My webcam's off!
9:51 pm	bcnpaul1:	where were we then? #eltchat Student PLNs - if blended learning courses were offered to YLs, they'd be really successful IMO #eltchat
9:51 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @fionamau: #eltchat ... they have 2 LIKE each other..> or respect each other, and have sth interesting to say, we can nurture thru convo
9:51 pm	europeaantje:	my favourite places to help start st PLN: inworld: classroom & the bar; online: Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat
9:51 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Are we back? Seems some of us are :-)
9:51 pm	web20education:	In 2 days I will launch a #PLN topic with thousounds of #edtools to use to build a passionate learning network #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt
9:52 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @bcnpaul1: where were we then? #eltchat Student PLNs - if blended learning courses were offered to YLs, they'd be really successful IMO #eltchat
9:52 pm	bcnpaul1:	@fionamau Just a wild guess #eltchat
9:52 pm	rliberni:	@erinneo sounds good #eltchat
9:52 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @europeaantje: my favourite places to help start st PLN: inworld: classroom & the bar; online: Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat
9:52 pm	rliberni:	RT @web20education: In 2 days I will launch a #PLN topic with thousounds of #edtools to use to build a passionate learning network #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt
9:52 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @fionamau: #eltchat So what do u reckon's main 'ingredient' in getting studentPLN 2work? I reckon they have 2 LIKE each other - how do we nurture that?
9:52 pm	Shaunwilden:	RT @europeaantje: my favourite places to help start st PLN....Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat must give it a try
9:52 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @Shaunwilden: RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Are we back? Seems some of us are :-)
9:53 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @katekidney: Maybe the easier online PLN the better +certainly one at a time. I've started with Facebook gr and blogs, think about Wiki.#eltchat
9:53 pm	harrisonmike:	@EclipsingX True. But they need to read to sign up for all these web tools. That can be so convoluted sometimes #eltchat
9:53 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @Shaunwilden: RT @europeaantje: my favourite places to help start st PLN....Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat must give it a try
9:53 pm	europeaantje:	@Shaunwilden sts can post via e-mail on Posterous. so easy #eltchat
9:53 pm	ELTExperiences:	Training learners is essential for YLs for blended learning. This is an essential read from @NikPeachey - http://scr.bi/dG7dj9 #ELTChat
9:53 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Are we back? Seems some of us are :-)
9:53 pm	cerirhiannon:	sharing's important -be ready to make the first move - lead by example - show enthusiasm - contagious enthusiasm #eltchat
9:53 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @cerirhiannon: sharing's important -be ready to make the first move - lead by example - show enthusiasm - contagious enthusiasm #eltchat
9:53 pm	bcnpaul1:	@europeaantje would you recommend posterous blog. i've been thinking about doing it #eltchat
9:53 pm	EclipsingX:	@fionamau showing them your PLN and what you get from it #ELTCHAT
9:53 pm	Shaunwilden:	@europeaantje Yes i have used it briefly need to explore it more, a lot of people seem to use it for its ease #eltchat
9:54 pm	rliberni:	RT @bcnpaul1: @europeaantje would you recommend posterous blog. i've been thinking about doing it #eltchat
9:54 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @annapires: @europeaantje classroom & blog sound like a good starting point to me! :) #eltchat > me too
9:54 pm	theteacherjames:	RT @cerirhiannon: sharing's important -be ready to make the first move - lead by example - show enthusiasm - contagious enthusiasm #eltchat
9:54 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @annapires: @europeaantje classroom & blog sound like a good starting point to me! :) #eltchat
9:54 pm	ShellTerrell:	@europeaantje And Posterous has a very easy free mobile app to accompany it! #ELTChat
9:54 pm	Marisa_C:	@cerirhiannon So right - T has to be a good role moderl - as a member of a PLN and as a learner too! #eltchat
9:54 pm	rliberni:	RT @ShellTerrell: @europeaantje And Posterous has a very easy free mobile app to accompany it! #ELTChat
9:54 pm	bcnpaul1:	RT @cerirhiannon sharing's important -be ready to make the first move - lead by example - show enthusiasm - contagious enthusiasm #eltchat
9:54 pm	rliberni:	RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon So right - T has to be a good role moderl - as a member of a PLN and as a learner too! #eltchat
9:55 pm	rliberni:	RT @bcnpaul1: RT @cerirhiannon sharing's important -be ready to make the first move - lead by example - show enthusiasm - contagious enthusiasm #eltchat
9:55 pm	europeaantje:	@Shaunwilden I started using it for its ease, then turns out to be the only platform to take near all embed code :-))) #eltchat
9:55 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @annapires: @europeaantje classroom & blog sound like a good starting point to me! :) #eltchat
9:55 pm	Shaunwilden:	@europeaantje Ta shall have a play with it #eltchat
9:55 pm	fionamau:	RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? Ope? (cont) http://deck.ly/~TV0Jx
9:55 pm	cerirhiannon:	@europeaantje @Shaunwilden beats blogger? #eltchat
9:55 pm	rliberni:	RT @annapires: Telling students about our own PLN, how we use it and what we learn from it. #eltchat
9:55 pm	bcnpaul1:	@ShellTerrell can you get in on blackberry? (the posterous app) #eltchat
9:55 pm	rliberni:	RT @fionamau: RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? Ope? (cont) http://deck.ly/~TV0Jx
9:56 pm	harrisonmike:	Seen awesome use of posters 4 pln/celta trainees kccelta.posters.com. @cathywint also told me of success w her sts #eltchat
9:56 pm	Marisa_C:	@Shaunwilden need to learn more abt it - any tutorials u know of? #eltchat
9:56 pm	fionamau:	@siwels196 #eltchat For a PLN to actually gel well and have a long life I think they have to like each other. Respect etc goes only so far
9:56 pm	rliberni:	RT @harrisonmike: Seen awesome use of posters 4 pln/celta trainees kccelta.posters.com. @cathywint also told me of success w her sts #eltchat
9:56 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @fionamau: RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? >no, respect, yes
9:57 pm	europeaantje:	@cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden would say so. you´d love it too. post be e-mail :-))) #eltchat
9:57 pm	web20education:	You can read more about #PLN #edtools here http://goo.gl/fb/ODXb8 #edchat #eltchat #cck11 #COSN11 #web20chat #lrnchat #SXSW #SXSWi #ntchat
9:57 pm	Shaunwilden:	@Marisa_C No, will look after chat and set myself the goal of playing with it for the next few days :-) #eltchat
9:57 pm	harrisonmike:	#eltchat that should be kccelta.posterous.com. silly predictive phone!
9:57 pm	ELTExperiences:	RT @harrisonmike: Seen awesome use of posters 4 pln/celta trainees kccelta.posters.com. @cathywint also told me of success w her sts #eltchat
9:57 pm	Marisa_C:	RT @Marisa_C: Social group theory still applies to group forming of PLN's #ELTchat
9:57 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @fionamau: @siwels196 #eltchat For a PLN to actually gel well and have a long life I think they have to like each other
9:57 pm	rliberni:	RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat that should be kccelta.posterous.com. silly predictive phone!
9:58 pm	springrose12:	@fionamau @siwels196 @ShellTerrell Yes, at least I have to:) If you don't like the other person, you can't focus on learning #eltchat
9:58 pm	Marisa_C:	@Shaunwilden Have been playing with a posterous blog but that about all #eltchat
9:58 pm	rliberni:	RT @cerirhiannon: RT @fionamau: @siwels196 #eltchat For a PLN to actually gel well and have a long life I think they have to like each other
9:58 pm	fionamau:	RT @springrose12: @fionamau @siwels196 @ShellTerrell Yes, at least I have to:) If you don't like the other person, you can't focus on learning #eltchat
9:58 pm	cerirhiannon:	@europeaantje @Shaunwilden sold !! LLOLL #eltchat
9:59 pm	dhsands:	RT @theteacherjames: Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat
9:59 pm	ShellTerrell:	@springrose12 @siwels196 I agree with @cerirhiannon that respecting each other & being open to possibilities #ELTChat
9:59 pm	fionamau:	RT @siwels196: @fionamau I am at the high school level and I get concerned about groupthink #eltchat #studentpln
9:59 pm	siwels196:	#eltchat ok ok ok I see your point - can you see mine about groupthink?
9:59 pm	harrisonmike:	@EclipsingX I think that would get so confusing. Plus some of the higher level sts are still actually lower level ict literate #eltchat
9:59 pm	theteacherjames:	#eltchat Can we help the sts like each other? Start a new class with rapport building activities?
9:59 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @fionamau: RT @siwels196: @fionamau I am at the high school level and I get concerned about groupthink #eltchat #studentpln
10:00 pm	europeaantje:	@rliberni @cerirhiannon @fionamau @siwels196 I teach my sts to work together regardless. will happen in workplace, too #eltchat
10:00 pm	fionamau:	RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Can we help the sts like each other? Start a new class with rapport building activities? >>I think this is key
10:00 pm	bcnpaul1:	gonna have to say goodnight everyone. Thx for another great #eltchat
10:00 pm	rliberni:	RT @europeaantje: @rliberni @cerirhiannon @fionamau @siwels196 I teach my sts to work together regardless. will happen in workplace, too #eltchat
10:00 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @europeaantje: @rliberni @cerirhiannon @fionamau @siwels196 I teach my sts to work together regardless. will happen in workplace, too #eltchat
10:00 pm	ShellTerrell:	Thank you everyone for a great #ELTChat & moderators to add to your PLN @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @rliberni
10:01 pm	theteacherjames:	RT @ShellTerrell: Thank you everyone for a great #ELTChat & moderators to add to your PLN @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @rliberni
10:01 pm	DinaDobrou:	RT @ShellTerrell: Thank you everyone for a great #ELTChat & moderators to add to your PLN @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @rliberni, & You, Shelly!
10:01 pm	siwels196:	#eltchat which comes first respect or firendship
10:01 pm	cerirhiannon:	had a vegan and a bullfighter in the same class - they didn't like each other, but were happy to learn from/with each other #eltchat
10:01 pm	harrisonmike:	Question: were you a student living in a foreign country learning the language, would you be able to start a pln? #eltchat
10:01 pm	fionamau:	RT @europeaantje: @rliberni @cerirhiannon @siwels196 Yes, but motivation,. dedication is different. A sort of affectove filter #eltchat
10:02 pm	Marisa_C:	An #ELTchat with some hiccoughs - Twitter fail, riots outside my door - Sirk Ken Robinson giving a great talk.? (cont) http://deck.ly/~o1yaa
10:02 pm	europeaantje:	@fionamau that´s another #eltchat!
10:02 pm	web20education:	Schools Use Digital Tools to Customize Education #edtech20 #edtools #edchat #eltchat #ntchat http://bit.ly/dP3plA
10:02 pm	rliberni:	Yes don't forget to follow everyone on the #eltchat thnx to fab PLN mods @Marisa_C @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden Over and out !
10:02 pm	theteacherjames:	@harrisonmike #eltchat Great question - maybe with classmates, but tough. Teacher needs to encourage & facilitate.
10:03 pm	coolpapajase:	I am a high school senior, and I have met many collegebound seniors on forums. We are from all over the world, it's great! #eltchat
10:03 pm	DinaDobrou:	@harrisonmike I'd know where to start: Twitter! I'd find ppl interested in same things as me I guess. #ELTchat
10:03 pm	Shaunwilden:	Don't forget we're looking for volunteers http://bit.ly/i2gRbm #eltchat - thks all, got to go finish some work...&have a look at posterous
10:03 pm	cerirhiannon:	I don't necessarily know all the members of my PLN very well, or agree with everything they say - they're still valuable members #eltchat
10:03 pm	Marisa_C:	And thanks to these great moderators - @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni #eltchat
10:03 pm	springrose12:	@harrisonmike No...I had friends from my language school to go out though:) Social network..I didn't call PLN #eltchat
10:03 pm	fionamau:	RT @siwels196: #eltchat which comes first respect or firendship: In the classroom respect, but for learnin? (cont) http://deck.ly/~GkdGs
10:03 pm	dhsands:	@ShellTerrell @bcnpaul1 Form one yourself, show them how it is of value, and help them find the value in it for them. #eltchat
10:03 pm	cybraryman1:	And thanks to these great moderators - @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni @Marisa_C: #eltchat
10:04 pm	unlkpotential:	RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills - Check out Bloom's Digital Taxonomy - http://ow.ly/4fyVN #ELTchat
10:04 pm	mikeopedia:	Common interests quickly connect people & form strong bonds. Kids sharing interests under the umbrella of learning = real learning. #eltchat
10:04 pm	coolpapajase:	My PLN consists of students from all over the world. We mainly congregate on Facebook. It's been a great learning resource. #eltchat
10:04 pm	DinaDobrou:	Good night all. Thank you dear moderators @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni @Marisa_C #ELTchat
10:04 pm	springrose12:	@fionamau @siwels196 There are cultural, traditional differences and sometimes conflict between kids who come from the same country #eltchat
10:04 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @mikeopedia: Common interests quickly connect people & form strong bonds. Kids sharing interests under the umbrella of learning = real learning. #eltchat
10:04 pm	harrisonmike:	@theteacherjames another q is would you want to, or Wud you be too busy with other things? #eltchat my guess is most here Wud, but others...
10:05 pm	EclipsingX:	thanks for a great chat #ELTCHAT
10:05 pm	ShellTerrell:	RT @coolpapajase: My PLN consists of students from all over the world. We mainly congregate on Facebook. It's been a great learning resource. #eltchat
10:05 pm	theteacherjames:	@coolpapajase #eltchat How do you find each other?
10:05 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @cybraryman1: And thanks to these great moderators - @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni @Marisa_C: #eltchat > seconded!! as always :)
10:05 pm	fionamau:	@cerirhiannon #eltchat No,but friendship & liking r different. I doubt u have people you don't like in yr PLN? (cont) http://deck.ly/~9h1Lv
10:05 pm	ShellTerrell:	@DinaDobrou Thank you! You're awesome & a definite follow to anyone's PLN! #ELTChat
10:06 pm	fionamau:	RT @springrose12: @fionamau @siwels196 There are cultural, traditional differences and sometimes conflict between kids who come from the same country #eltchat
10:06 pm	springrose12:	@fionamau @siwels196 Respecting other cultures is taught only in some cultures. #eltchat
10:06 pm	springrose12:	@fionamau @cerirhiannon My experience is that they need to get to know and like each other first #eltchat
10:06 pm	europeaantje:	RT @europeaantje: cheers #etltchat ters #eltchat
10:06 pm	cintiastella:	I've missed the #ELTChat... next time!
10:06 pm	theteacherjames:	@harrisonmike #eltchat From what I hear, sts tend to hang out with others from their own country out of class, speak L1. Do you agree?
10:06 pm	caroljallen:	I have set up a PLN via Facebook - 2010 Inclusion for All - needless to say, all welcome! #eltchat
10:06 pm	fionamau:	RT @springrose12: @fionamau @siwels196 Respecting other cultures is taught only in some cultures. #eltchat > And only in some houses :(
10:07 pm	gstickel:	RT @fionamau: RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? Ope? (cont) http://deck.ly/~TV0Jx
10:07 pm	fionamau:	RT @springrose12: @fionamau @cerirhiannon My experience is that they need to get to know and like each other first #eltchat
10:08 pm	harrisonmike:	I think we sumtimes 4get abt all that's going on w our sts. Esp low income ESOL sts. Theyve much more imp stuff to deal w than pln #eltchat
10:10 pm	LauraAustinNow:	RT @harrisonmike: I think we sumtimes 4get abt all that's going on w our sts. Esp low income ESOL sts. Theyve much more imp stuff to deal w than pln #eltchat
10:10 pm	cerirhiannon:	link to a talk I gave about a class who formed a temp email/blogging (P)LN brimming w contagious enthusiasm http://bit.ly/gcOKSm #eltchat
10:10 pm	harrisonmike:	@theteacherjames Yep. So many sts I know stick to their communities here. Isolated. Also many w no intention of intgr8in or working #eltchat
10:10 pm	theteacherjames:	@harrisonmike #eltchat But ideally their PLN should happen naturally, & not as a conscious decision? Then it's low stress.
10:11 pm	cerirhiannon:	RT @harrisonmike: I think we sumtimes 4get abt all that's going on w our sts. Esp low income ESOL sts. Theyve much more imp stuff to deal w than pln #eltchat
10:11 pm	cathywint:	just in from work. Sorry to have missed #ELTChat tonight. Having a quick catch up now
10:11 pm	theteacherjames:	@harrisonmike #eltchat I've taught those people after they've come home. They are often shamefaced about it, let me tell you.