11:58 am

esolcourses:

RT @barbsaka: For the next hour my tweets will be devoted to #ELTchat How to train students to use technology appropriately #ELTchat

11:58 am

englishraven:

Welcome to #ELTChat, folks. Our topic for next hour is 'How do you train students to use tech?'

11:59 am

englishraven:

RT @Marisa_C: Your moderators for this chat are going to be @englishraven @Marisa_C @barbsaka and @Shaunwilden !!!! Get set!!! #ELTchat

11:59 am

cybraryman1:

RT @englishraven: Welcome to #ELTChat, folks. Our topic for next hour is 'How do you train students to use tech?'

11:59 am

esolcourses:

RT @Marisa_C: If you are new to #ELTchat please @englishraven @Marisa_C @barbsaka or @Shaunwilden for help

11:59 am

barbsaka:

Seems like one of the challenges is that classes are probably mixed tech level, right? #ELTChat

12:00 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @barbsaka: Seems like one of the challenges is that classes are probably mixed tech level, right? #ELTChat

12:00 pm

barbsaka:

My students are almost universally tech beginners, but I don't think that's the norm :-) #eltchat

12:00 pm

sandymillin:

@barbsaka Definitely mixed tech level, and I think that's a problem for teachers when sharing classes too #ELTChat

12:00 pm

englishraven:

Training for tech... What / When / Who / How + WHY? #ELTChat

12:00 pm

englishraven:

RT @sandymillin: @barbsaka Definitely mixed tech level, and I think that's a problem for teachers when sharing classes too #ELTChat

12:00 pm

cybraryman1:

The first thing is to ascertain the tech capabilities of each student. You can even learn a lot from them #ELTchat

12:00 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @englishraven: Training for tech... What / When / Who / How + WHY? #ELTChat

12:00 pm

esolcourses:

RT @barbsaka Seems like one of the challenges is that classes are probably mixed tech level #ELTChat ] yes, IME. Need to differentiate a lot

12:00 pm

ELTchat:

RT @englishraven: Training for tech... What / When / Who / How + WHY? #ELTChat

12:01 pm

chucksandy:

and how about contexts where tech still consists of only a white board & some textbooks if Ss /Ts are lucky #ELTchat

12:01 pm

barbsaka:

@cybraryman1 How do you assess their capabilities, Jerry? #ELTchat

12:01 pm

bruno_cesar82:

#eltchat Repetitive issue: We must train ourselves! There are some tchrs at my school who can barely handle a word processor. Shame!

12:01 pm

barbsaka:

@chucksandy Welcome to Asian edtech :-) #ELTchat

12:01 pm

Shaunwilden:

Having the resources available to use is quite a challenge for many schools #ELTchat

12:01 pm

Marisa_C:

We need to assume that you are teaching a class where using technology IS possible #ELTchat

12:01 pm

esolcourses:

RT @ELTchat: RT @englishraven: Training for tech... What / When / Who / How + WHY? #ELTChat ] Why? because it empowers learenres. Big +, IMO

12:01 pm

cybraryman1:

@barbsaka You can take a survey of what they know and if they have any expertise #ELTchat

12:02 pm

barbsaka:

RT @cybraryman1: @barbsaka You can take a survey of what they know and if they have any expertise #ELTchat

12:02 pm

englishraven:

Tech levels important, but first 'how' to me is 'how does the tech fit in with overall goals/content?' #ELTChat

12:02 pm

bruno_cesar82:

Agree! RT @Shaunwilden: Having the resources available to use is quite a challenge for many schools #ELTchat

12:02 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @Marisa_C: We need to assume that you are teaching a class where using technology IS possible #ELTchat Yes good point!

12:02 pm

sandymillin:

@Marisa_C What about one-computer classroom? My one laptop goes a long way (esp. if SS can add theirs) #ELTchat

12:02 pm

pevansimpson:

So what are some core technologies that teachers should know? #eltchat

12:02 pm

galactadon:

@chucksandy should be easy enough to train them to use a whiteboard I'd imagine :) #eltchat

12:02 pm

e_siemens:

Yes, @bruno_cesar82 I totally agree with you. How can we train our students without knowing how to deal with it? #ELTChat

12:02 pm

esolcourses:

RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: We need to assume that you are teaching a class where using technology IS possible #ELTchat Yes good point!

12:02 pm

Marisa_C:

@bruno_cesar82 Bruno I feel for you but the topic is addressed to teachers who CAN use technology in their classroom #eltchat

12:02 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @barbsaka: @cybraryman1 How do you assess their capabilities, Jerry? #ELTchat

12:02 pm

chucksandy:

RT @barbsaka: @chucksandy Welcome to Asian edtech :-) Yes: I was thinking of indonesia/thai classes but in Japan ... mobile phones #ELTchat

12:02 pm

englishraven:

@sandymillin Right. Important start = WHAT tech do we have access to? #ELTChat

12:02 pm

EnglAdvantage:

@chucksandy: or if one computer in class is so precious school admin doesn't let students touch it #ELTchat

12:02 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @sandymillin: @Marisa_C What about one-computer classroom? My one laptop goes a long way (esp. if SS can add theirs) #ELTchat

12:03 pm

bruno_cesar82:

#eltchat we need to insert tech in our practices not to teach tech as if it were a whole separated subject itself

12:03 pm

englishraven:

RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: We need to assume that you are teaching a class where using technology IS possible #ELTchat Yes good point!

12:03 pm

chucksandy:

@esolcourses: appropriate tech is always possible, even in low tech contexts. I've been learning that ^^ #ELTchat

12:03 pm

mmgrinberg:

Hi and sorry for being late #eltchat

12:03 pm

barbsaka:

Mobile phones--that is main way students access tech in Asia--how can we capitalize on that and help them use them effectively? #eltchat

12:03 pm

esolcourses:

RT @bruno_cesar82: #eltchat we need to insert tech in our practices not to teach tech as if it were a whole separated subject itself ] agree

12:03 pm

Marisa_C:

@sandymillin One computer is often all you need ! Not true that you need a comp lab! #ELTchat

12:03 pm

cybraryman1:

I have sites on how to use one computer in a classroom on My Computers in the Classroom page: http://bit.ly/2pr1jn #ELTchat

12:03 pm

AnnaMusielak:

Hi have only a couple of minutes but want to join #ELTchat

12:03 pm

englishraven:

@esolcourses Yes, totally agree. Tech can really empower learners. #ELTChat

12:04 pm

sandymillin:

#eltchat Re: assessing SS, did a tech survey at start of year (although they need to be able to fill in form online!) http://bit.ly/gm0Ley

12:04 pm

englishraven:

@AnnaMusielak You're joined! #ELTChat

12:04 pm

Moacir2:

RT @esolcourses: RT @bruno_cesar82: #eltchat we need to insert tech in our practices not to teach tech as if it were a whole separated subject itself ] agree

12:04 pm

barbsaka:

I actually get a lot of mileage out of my personal laptop--it's the ONLY computer in class. Students love using it! #eltchat

12:04 pm

e_siemens:

What kind of technology do you guys use in your classes? #ELTChat

12:04 pm

chucksandy:

@AnnaMusielak: great to see you even for a couple of minutes! ^^ #ELTchat

12:04 pm

englishraven:

RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Re: assessing SS, did a tech survey at start of year (although they need to be able to fill in form online!) http://bit.ly/gm0Ley

12:04 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @barbsaka: I actually get a lot of mileage out of my personal laptop--it's the ONLY computer in class. Students love using it! #eltchat

12:04 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Ok - so that's not me - no possibility to use tech in most of my classes:( #ELTchat

12:04 pm

nancyteach:

RT @ShellTerrell: Learning Beyond Walls: Wikis, Skype, & Global Projects http://t.co/0apau7k #eltchat #edchat

12:04 pm

sandymillin:

RT @barbsaka: I actually get a lot of mileage out of my personal laptop--it's ONLY computer in class. Students love using it! #eltchat <me2

12:05 pm

barbsaka:

@e_siemens One class I have wifi, so we use online tools. Other class no internet, so I download onto my laptop, and upload @ home #ELTChat

12:05 pm

esolcourses:

RT @chucksandy: @esolcourses: appropriate tech is always possible, even in low tech contexts #ELTchat ] agree. All many ppl have access to

12:05 pm

Marisa_C:

So, even one laptop has great potential but how do you train your learners in class? #ELTchat

12:05 pm

englishraven:

RT @Marisa_C: So, even one laptop has great potential but how do you train your learners in class? #ELTchat

12:05 pm

barbsaka:

RT @Marisa_C: So, even one laptop has great potential but how do you train your learners in class? #ELTchat

12:05 pm

SugarJo:

Students arrive first day with a very expensive electronic dictionary. We have integrated a class on use into the curriculum #ELTchat

12:05 pm

mmgrinberg:

Most ss have computers at home and their mobiles in class #eltchat

12:05 pm

Shaunwilden:

@AnnaMusielak I guess its how we define tech - afterall dvd, cd etc are technology :-) #ELTchat but I suspect ppl mean laptops, iwbs etc

12:05 pm

e_siemens:

@barbsaka I also have wifi at my school, but what online tools do you use? #ELTChat

12:05 pm

Marisa_C:

@AnnaMusielak and for a lot of other teachers am afriad :-( #ELTchat

12:05 pm

sandymillin:

#eltchat Train learners by demonstration. e.g. with YLs use Triptico word magnets for grammar structures. They want to try it too!

12:06 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Train learners by demonstration. e.g. with YLs use Triptico word magnets for gramma? (cont) http://deck.ly/~DTeMc

12:06 pm

barbsaka:

RT @SugarJo: Students arrive first day with a very expensive electronic dictionary. We have integrated class on use into curriculum #ELTchat

12:06 pm

EnglAdvantage:

@Marisa_C: And how much time do we spend teaching tech and not language? #ELTchat

12:06 pm

englishraven:

Saw how my son's Prep teacher begins training kids with tech... Has two old computers for them to play on! #ELTChat

12:06 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@Shaunwilden the only tech are CDs then, my school has no laptops, no internet access on the first floor:( #ELTchat

12:06 pm

bcinfrance:

I use tech a lot for my own purposes, creating lessons, but don't get my Ss to engage with it that much in class. #ELTchat

12:06 pm

englishraven:

RT @EnglAdvantage: @Marisa_C: And how much time do we spend teaching tech and not language? #ELTchat

12:06 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @EnglAdvantage: @Marisa_C: And how much time do we spend teaching tech and not language? #ELTchat > Good question

12:06 pm

barbsaka:

I have my young learners (3 yo) use the mouse and keys to make things happen on the screen #eltchat

12:06 pm

sandymillin:

@EnglAdvantage Depends on if we're teaching tech or using it as a tool. Most tools are use are v. simple, so SS can use at home #ELTchat

12:06 pm

e_siemens:

@EnglAdvantage I guess we don't teach tech, do we? It comes as a bonus... don't know, might be mistaken. #ELTChat

12:07 pm

chucksandy:

Highly recommend a look at The Center for Appropriate Technology http://www.icat.org.au/ for ideas of tech in low tech contexts #ELTchat

12:07 pm

Moacir2:

#eltchat There's a generational gap regarding Tech. Most my Ss are 30-50yo. They resist using tech for lessons.

12:07 pm

barbsaka:

Older kids learn by using tools, and making mistakes #eltchat

12:07 pm

Marisa_C:

@EnglAdvantage I guess my answer would be teach as much as you need to serve language - no more - edtcech not the aim but the means #ELTchat

12:07 pm

chucksandy:

RT @barbsaka: Older kids learn by using tools, and making mistakes #ELTchat

12:07 pm

englishraven:

@galactadon Mmm, what if they can access it in your class though? #ELTChat

12:07 pm

cybraryman1:

RT @barbsaka: Older kids learn by using tools, and making mistakes #eltchat

12:07 pm

AnnaMusielak:

For my 121 lessons I use laptops, youtube videos and assign comp related homework - short ppt for example #ELTchat

12:08 pm

EnglAdvantage:

fair enough #ELTChat

12:08 pm

bruno_cesar82:

#eltchat sometimes the only tech I have in class is my IPhone and the IWB w Internet connection -- they make wonders!

12:08 pm

gsellart:

RT @EnglAdvantage @Marisa_C: And how much time do we spend teaching tech and not language? #ELTchat >>We use language to teach tech

12:08 pm

chucksandy:

RT @Marisa_C: I guess my answer would be teach as much as you need to serve language - no more - edtcech not the aim but the means #ELTchat

12:08 pm

englishraven:

RT @bruno_cesar82: #eltchat sometimes the only tech I have in class is my IPhone and the IWB w Internet connection -- they make wonders!

12:08 pm

esolcourses:

RT @EnglAdvantage: @Marisa_C: how much time do we spend teaching tech & not language? #ELTchat ] I tend to teach them in combination

12:08 pm

cybraryman1:

If possible embed technology where it is appropriate in your lessons. Model for other teachers how you use it. #ELTchat

12:08 pm

mmgrinberg:

If you are training them how 2 use Moodle, print out some screenshots, put 'em on the walls, ss walk around and guess where 2 click #eltchat

12:09 pm

AnnaMusielak:

My problem is - what do you do with reluctant parents who want printed handouts and coursebooks, not comp related assignments? #ELTchat

12:09 pm

chucksandy:

RT @cybraryman1: If possible embed technology where it is appropriate in your lessons. Model for other teachers how you use it. #ELTchat

12:09 pm

englishraven:

@EnglAdvantage There's a lot of very practical language that can be taught 'through' edtech training. #ELTChat

12:09 pm

Moacir2:

#eltchat also a gender gap: women in Brazil are more attuned with facebook, twitter, etc., than men. Men wanna see their football matches

12:09 pm

galactadon:

@englishraven I'd weigh against other options to decide if it's the best tool for our objective that day. No tech for tech's sake #eltchat

12:09 pm

Marisa_C:

@EnglAdvantage And teaching tech itself would be a useful language activity ... #ELTchat

12:09 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @englishraven: @EnglAdvantage There's a lot of very practical language that can be taught 'through' edtech training. #ELTChat

12:09 pm

bcinfrance:

Is the debate limited to in the classroom? I find it a challenge to get Ss to use it for learning purposes outside...#ELTchat

12:09 pm

esolcourses:

RT @cybraryman1: If possible embed technology where it is appropriate in your lessons. Model for other teachers how you use it. #ELTchat

12:09 pm

barbsaka:

@AnnaMusielak My parents are thrilled when they see how much WRITING in English their kids do when it's online :-) #ELTchat

12:09 pm

englishraven:

@galactadon Good point -> "no tech for tech's sake" #ELTChat

12:09 pm

mmgrinberg:

RT @englishraven: @EnglAdvantage There's a lot of very practical language that can be taught 'through' edtech training. #ELTChat > True!

12:09 pm

juandoming:

RT @cybraryman1: If possible embed technology where it is appropriate in your lessons. Model for other teachers how you use it. #ELTchat

12:09 pm

barbsaka:

RT @englishraven: @galactadon Good point -> "no tech for tech's sake" #ELTChat

12:09 pm

sandymillin:

@AnnaMusielak Think with a lot of these issues, u shud present a fait accompli - if parents / SS see usefulness, it works #ELTchat

12:10 pm

seouldaddy:

Whenever possible go to the tech that the students are already using instead of introducing new tech. Might mean local lang sites #ELTchat

12:10 pm

EnglAdvantage:

Hadn't thought of teaching tech as teaching lang. Thanks all. #ELTChat

12:10 pm

englishraven:

RT @seouldaddy: Whenever possible go to the tech that the students are already using instead of introducing new tech. Might mean local lang sites #ELTchat

12:10 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@Moacir2 I have the same problem, some older ss don't even have an email address #ELTchat

12:10 pm

barbsaka:

@seouldaddy So you would use a Korean language site for English class? How? #ELTchat

12:10 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @bcinfrance: Is the debate limited to in the classroom? #ELTchat good question, was wondering that myself as I think they go hand inhand

12:10 pm

mmgrinberg:

Moodle is great thanks to forums, chats and wikis! #eltchat

12:10 pm

Marisa_C:

#ELTchat - pls try to say within 140 characters as this may not be seen through the transcript

12:10 pm

barbsaka:

@AnnaMusielak It took a YEAR to get all of my seniors to find their email addresses :-) #ELTchat

12:10 pm

bcinfrance:

OK, I really DO use tech in the classroom -- one laptop, connected if possible, also ask students to prepare PP presentations #ELTChat

12:10 pm

galactadon:

@Marisa_C edtcech not the aim but the means #ELTchat Here here!

12:11 pm

englishraven:

@EnglAdvantage Yes, task-based and CLIL-based at its very best! #ELTChat

12:11 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat - pls try to say within 140 characters as this may not be seen through the transcript

12:11 pm

englishraven:

RT @bcinfrance: OK, I really DO use tech in the classroom -- one laptop, connected if possible, also ask students to prepare PP presentations #ELTChat

12:11 pm

mmgrinberg:

RT @galactadon: @Marisa_C edtcech not the aim but the means #ELTchat Here here!

12:11 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@barbsaka That's great, some od my ask is I don't have enough paper to print handouts if I assign online exercises;) #ELTchat

12:11 pm

cybraryman1:

My Moodle page (for those not familiar with it): http://bit.ly/d48rA4 #ELTchat

12:11 pm

seouldaddy:

@barbsaka Koreans tend to use Korean sites for communication, games, etc. Go to these before Google or other English sites #ELTchat

12:11 pm

sandymillin:

#eltchat We just got a projector. Here's my post on the first lesson I did with it http://wp.me/p18yiK-32

12:11 pm

esolcourses:

Some ESL+ ICT activities for English language learners on my site here, that people may find useful http://bit.ly/bDHeMs #ELTChat

12:11 pm

englishraven:

@AnnaMusielak That's a good point. Email not as obvious/necessary to younger generations as to us. #ELTChat

12:12 pm

Moacir2:

#eltchat using the iPad in class especially for video and audio content. Ss also like dictionary app.

12:12 pm

chucksandy:

I encourage Ss to set their mobile phone / PC default language to English. Doing that teaches a lot. Ss already know the functions. #ELTchat

12:12 pm

uniqsuseq:

RT @NancyTeaches: Great resource! RT @ShellTerrell: Learning Beyond Walls: Wikis, Skype, & Global Projects http://shar.es/3qT4f #eltchat #edchat #elemchat

12:12 pm

juanalejandro82:

What's today's topic? morning everyone (or evening) #ELTChat

12:12 pm

englishraven:

RT @chucksandy: I encourage Ss to set their mobile phone / PC default language to English. Doing that teaches a lot. Ss already know the functions. #ELTchat

12:12 pm

galactadon:

Tech can make language learning seem sexier and more exciting though, even if sts can't access at home. (contradicting myself) #eltchat

12:12 pm

SugarJo:

I use my ipod for listening in class-great intro to tech for students who have no idea about podcasts/apps-they see tech in use #ELTchat

12:12 pm

bcinfrance:

Had an interesting discussion in English with my uni students, they weren't that keen on hyper-connected language teaching #ELTchat

12:12 pm

Horizons93:

RT @cybraryman1: My Moodle page (for those not familiar with it): http://bit.ly/d48rA4 #ELTchat

12:12 pm

e_siemens:

@bcinfrance We ask ss to prepare PP presentations and they have 2 talk about it. it's like an oral presentation and they fancy it. #ELTChat

12:12 pm

mmgrinberg:

RT @chucksandy: I encourage Ss to set their mobile phone / PC default language to English (....). #ELTchat > It works!

12:12 pm

Moacir2:

@chucksandy great tip Chuck. Thanks #eltchat

12:12 pm

englishraven:

@chucksandy That's so true. And I can use MS Word fully in Korean, without understanding half the menu words! #ELTChat

12:12 pm

Shaunwilden:

I found starting with easy and obvious things like youtube in class with my adults got the sts interested in doing more #ELTchat

12:13 pm

barbsaka:

RT @SugarJo: I use ipod for listening-great intro to tech for students who have no idea about podcasts/apps-they see tech in use #ELTchat

12:13 pm

juanalejandro82:

RT @Shaunwilden: I found starting with easy and obvious things like youtube in class with my adults got the sts interested in doing more #ELTchat

12:13 pm

Marisa_C:

@chucksandy So - one great way that many colleagues are saying - use knowledge Ss have with their mobiles - great entry point! #ELTchat

12:13 pm

stephfuccio:

re social networking sites like FB, Twitter, for low level ss there is the issue of slang b4 basic grammar/vocab #eltchat

12:13 pm

SugarJo:

RT @chucksandy: I encourage Ss to set their mobile phone / PC default language to English..... #ELTchat Brilliant idea!

12:13 pm

galactadon:

@bcinfrance What reasons did they give? #eltchat

12:13 pm

englishraven:

@Shaunwilden Yes, Youtube a very easy/practical starting point, I think. #ELTChat

12:13 pm

Marisa_C:

Even our refugee learners with no web access ALL have mobile phones they are happy to use in class #ELTchat

12:13 pm

bcinfrance:

My Ss: "We're on our computers for other classes, to prepare reports and presentations...in English we just want to read and talk." #ELTchat

12:13 pm

e_siemens:

@Shaunwilden Youtube is amazing, isn't it? I always ask my ss to bring something funny and we watch at the end of the class. #ELTChat

12:14 pm

seouldaddy:

@barbsaka For example, there are innumerable game sites with English content in Korean portals. #ELTchat

12:14 pm

AnnaMusielak:

With my seniors I give them links to online dictionaries and exercises - some of them try them out #ELTchat

12:14 pm

chucksandy:

I feel it's important to 1st embrace tech Ss already know. In Japan mobile phones/Mixi/electronic dictionaries & build from there #ELTchat

12:14 pm

Shaunwilden:

I also encouraged sts to use their smartphones to look up words and images #ELTChat

12:14 pm

Moacir2:

@barbsaka @SugarJo #eltchat ipod gr8 tool and more portable than ipad especially for teachers who have to commute.

12:14 pm

CELT_Athens:

RT @Shaunwilden: I also encouraged sts to use their smartphones to look up words and images #ELTChat

12:14 pm

seouldaddy:

@barbsaka This requires building familiarity with local tech, which is still difficult for me with my limited Korean. #ELTchat

12:14 pm

EnglAdvantage:

@Marisa_C How do you use mobiles in class? #ELTChat

12:14 pm

englishraven:

@Marisa_C Same here (re: refugee Ss with mobile phones). They have 'em, can use 'em, so why not? #ELTChat

12:14 pm

mmgrinberg:

How do you use mobiles in class? #eltchat

12:14 pm

juandoming:

http://www.edzone.net/~mwestern/ Marilyn Western's #Technology Tips for Classroom #Teachers #juandon #elearning #ELTchat

12:15 pm

barbsaka:

Good point, Chuck--embrace the tech students already know and build from there! #eltchat

12:15 pm

AnnaMusielak:

With younger ss I follow an example learned at #TESOL Paris - I ask them to use bluetooth to send short recordings #ELTchat

12:15 pm

englishraven:

@Susanhilly Welcome to #ELTChat!

12:15 pm

e_siemens:

RT @barbsaka: Good point, Chuck--embrace the tech students already know and build from there! #eltchat

12:15 pm

profesortbaker:

A Letter For Thomas: From Elise in Response to Connectivism: A Theory of Learning for A Digital Age #CCK11 #ELTchat http://wp.me/pdHW0-k0

12:15 pm

profesortbaker:

A Letter For Thomas: From Elise in Response to Connectivism: A Theory of Learning for A Digital Age #CCK11 #ELTchat http://nblo.gs/e488f

12:15 pm

profesorbaker:

A Letter For Thomas: From Elise in Response to Connectivism: A Theory of Learning for A Digital Age #CCK11 #ELTchat http://nblo.gs/e488f

12:15 pm

galactadon:

Could we talk about the WHY of tech in ELT, esp. sts without home access vs. sts with home access? #eltchat

12:15 pm

mmgrinberg:

@annamusielak Is there a link? #eltchat

12:15 pm

barbsaka:

RT @galactadon: Could we talk about the WHY of tech in ELT, esp. sts without home access vs. sts with home access? #eltchat

12:15 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

Facebook can help as most of students in Indonesia have FB acc,you could connect by asking them to comment on your stats in english #ELTchat

12:15 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @galactadon: Could we talk about the WHY of tech in ELT, esp. sts without home access vs. sts with home access? #eltchat

12:15 pm

juanalejandro82:

@Shaunwilden I also do that! even where I work is prohibited using cellphones during classes! #ELTChat

12:16 pm

chucksandy:

@mmgrinberg: how to use mobiles in class? 1st day I tell Ss get out your mobiles & send me a mail. We make class list. #ELTchat

12:16 pm

Moacir2:

#eltchat older Ss 30+ don't use app for language, but love google on their PCs. Wikipedia is the solution to all their problems.They think!

12:16 pm

marcelamomberg:

RT @cybraryman1: I have sites on how to use one computer in a classroom on My Computers in the Classroom page: http://bit.ly/2pr1jn #ELTchat

12:16 pm

AnnaMusielak:

Today I have my first lesson on Pecha Kucha with young adults - they were supposed to prepare a "half" PK with 10 slides only #ELTchat

12:16 pm

englishraven:

@galactadon Even without home access, I think it's important to facilitate tech skills in class. Imp. for work, etc. later #ELTChat

12:16 pm

sandymillin:

@EnglAdvantage ask SS to record themselves doing speaking inside and outside class. E.g. from SS http://bit.ly/f6BSwg (I uploaded) #ELTChat

12:16 pm

Shaunwilden:

@juanalejandro82 Dont you just love how schools 'prohibit' the use of phones rather than set out guidelines for use! #ELTChat

12:16 pm

Marisa_C:

@EnglAdvantage lots of different things - exploiting various functions - text, voice recording, videotaping ... #ELTChat #ELTChat

12:17 pm

englishraven:

Most of my refugee Ss don't have Internet at home, but often go to local library to use it. #ELTChat

12:17 pm

seouldaddy:

@galactadon I see the why as being for resource, communication, and automated feedback (might include motivation as well) #eltchat

12:17 pm

e_siemens:

@AnnaMusielak That's a very good idea. Pecha Kucha with only 10 slides. Are they engaged in this project? #ELTChat

12:17 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@mmgrinberg Sorry got lost link to what? ;) #ELTchat

12:17 pm

gknightbkk:

Shouldn't tech be giving more choices. Why do Ss 'have' to learn to use it? #ELTchat

12:17 pm

chucksandy:

RT @yitzha_sarwono: Facebook as most of sSs in Indonesia have FB. you cld connect by asking Ss to comment on your stats in english #ELTchat

12:17 pm

mmgrinberg:

@chucksandy I guess my ss are not as advanced as that. Or shall ask them first? ;)) Thanks #eltchat

12:17 pm

SugarJo:

#ELTchat All students have mobiles which have been 'smart' for many years here in Japan @chucksandy students love to mail me in English too

12:17 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTchat - pls try to say within 140 characters as this may not be seen through the transcript

12:17 pm

esolcourses:

articles, infographics, video listening activities, etc can be used to teach learners about tech - for example http://bit.ly/b4LBCz #ELTchat

12:17 pm

barbsaka:

Why tech, even w/o home access? Working with tech can take student's focus off studying language as they get absorbed in task #eltchat

12:17 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@e_siemens Yes, and I hope to see some great PK today, one ss chose ppl I love #ELTchat

12:17 pm

e_siemens:

@mmgrinberg The problem is that mine don't have those very fancy mobile phones. I mean, the majority do... but the rest... #ELTChat

12:18 pm

Moacir2:

@barbsaka @galactadon #eltchat why tech? bc language learning isn't just another subject but a tool to learn something else, including IT.

12:18 pm

seouldaddy:

@englishraven Yes. I had students too who took my online classes entirely from their local libraries. Not perfect, but it worked. #ELTChat

12:18 pm

mmgrinberg:

@annamusielak To that Paris session. What were you talking about #eltchat ?

12:18 pm

janebarden:

#eltchat mobile access is the way forward. Most students in my teaching context have smart phones. Lucky I s'pose.

12:18 pm

e_siemens:

@AnnaMusielak Let me know how it goes, then. I'd be more than eager to do that with my ss. #ELTChat

12:18 pm

bcinfrance:

Using cell phones forbidden in my establishment, also not all my Ss have smart phones. Remain a bit unconvinced on this tool. #ELTchat

12:18 pm

cybraryman1:

@AnnaMusielak My Pecha Kucha page: http://bit.ly/g70Num #ELTchat

12:18 pm

chucksandy:

@mmgrinberg I'll bet your Ss can teach you a few things about using mobile phones. My Ss teach me & that's a lesson in itself ^^ #ELTchat

12:18 pm

sandymillin:

#eltchat Another post I wrote about technology in class and at home http://wp.me/p18yiK-A

12:18 pm

barbsaka:

My YLs aren't allowed to touch computers at home, so they're willing to do anything to use the computer in Eng class :-) #eltchat

12:18 pm

mmgrinberg:

RT @e_siemens: @mmgrinberg The problem is that mine don't have those very fancy mobile phones..... #ELTChat > Same for me ((

12:18 pm

chucksandy:

RT @gknightbkk: Shouldnt tech be giving more choices. Why do Ss have to learn to use it? #ELTchat

12:19 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@mmgrinberg One of the ppt was on hot potatoes, and the speaker talked how she uses bluetooth #ELTchat

12:19 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

as for mobile,you could ask them to download application like dictionary or use the bluetooth to send listening material #ELTchat

12:19 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @chucksandy: RT @gknightbkk: Shouldnt tech be giving more choices. Why do Ss have to learn to use it? #ELTchat

12:19 pm

englishraven:

@bcinfrance Doesn't need to be a smartphone, though, right? #ELTChat

12:19 pm

galactadon:

@barbsaka I agree about the distracting nature of tech, but that can be true of art, drama, competitive games, etc. too. #eltchat

12:19 pm

englishraven:

RT @galactadon: @barbsaka I agree about the distracting nature of tech, but that can be true of art, drama, competitive games, etc. too. #eltchat

12:19 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens If they don't have the tech themselves, I ask them to ask their friends - often a neighbour / family member might #ELTChat

12:19 pm

Shaunwilden:

Why tech? Cos it fits in with many sts lifestyles thus adding purpose, engagement and usefulness #ELTChat

12:19 pm

bebener:

RT @barbsaka: Older kids learn by using tools, and making mistakes #eltchat

12:19 pm

e_siemens:

What I do try is to let my students use the IWB as much as possible because it's something which they love. #ELTChat

12:19 pm

barbsaka:

@galactadon I don't think it's distraction--I think it's flow. They are absorbed in using language, not focused on language #eltchat

12:19 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin So they would borrow their relatives' cell phones? #ELTChat

12:19 pm

mmgrinberg:

@chucksandy Wow that's a nice idea! #eltchat

12:20 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens Just for 5 minutes in front of their relative :) #ELTChat

12:20 pm

besudesu:

RT @SugarJo: RT @chucksandy: I encourage Ss to set their mobile phone / PC default language to English..... #ELTchat Brilliant idea!

12:20 pm

englishraven:

But one warning I guess... Don't try to use tech to 'fix' things that aren't broke! #ELTChat

12:20 pm

chucksandy:

RT @SugarJo: "students love to mail me in English" Funny that so many Ts tell Ss to put away their phones in class then, isn't it? #ELTchat

12:20 pm

AnnaMusielak:

For kids (4-6) I ask parents to play online games in English (e.g. playhouse disney) - that's what I do with my daughter #ELTchat

12:20 pm

Marisa_C:

@gknightbkk Why tech? When did Ss have access to so much natural lang in the past 24/7? - A self access at their fingertips #ELTchat

12:20 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin Ah, I got it now. #ELTChat

12:20 pm

esolcourses:

RT @englishraven: But one warning I guess... Don't try to use tech to 'fix' things that aren't broke! #ELTChat ] absolutely

12:20 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Another post I wrote about technology in class and at home http://wp.me/p18yiK-A

12:20 pm

mmgrinberg:

I regularly ask ss to take photos of the board with their mobiles #eltchat

12:20 pm

barbsaka:

RT @englishraven: But one warning I guess... Don't try to use tech to 'fix' things that aren't broke! #ELTChat

12:20 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@e_siemens @mmgrinberg Same here - no fancy phones #ELTchat

12:21 pm

stephfuccio:

had a few Toelf ss of mine listening to Academic Eng podcasts in heavy commute places like VN and JP. MP3 is low tech, right? #eltchat

12:21 pm

e_siemens:

Sometimes I take my ss to the library where we have computers and ask them to send me their essays via e-mail. They like it a lot. #ELTChat

12:21 pm

SugarJo:

There are times for techiness and times to de-tech..we have choices as teachers #ELTchat misuse of tech (mobiles) = sign of bad class

12:21 pm

englishraven:

For example, why use class time doing voice messages if they could be talking face to face? #ELTChat

12:21 pm

galactadon:

@barbsaka "distraction" was the wrong word, but whatever you call it, the impact is the same as other engaging activities using lng #eltchat

12:21 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @galactadon: @barbsaka I agree about the distracting nature of tech, but that can be true of art, drama, competitive games, etc. too. #eltchat

12:21 pm

barbsaka:

Definitely tech for tech's sake is a bad idea--I only have 1 hr a week w/students, so not willing to "waste" any of it #eltchat

12:21 pm

sandymillin:

@stephfuccio Low tech, but almost none of my students have heard of podcasts until I introduce them #eltchat

12:21 pm

esolcourses:

RT @mmgrinberg: I regularly ask ss to take photos of the board with their mobiles #eltchat

12:21 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @englishraven: For example, why use class time doing voice messages if they could be talking face to face? #ELTChat

12:21 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @Shaunwilden: Why tech? Cos it fits in with many sts lifestyles thus adding purpose, engagement and usefulness #ELTChat

12:21 pm

englishraven:

RT @SugarJo: There are times for techiness and times to de-tech..we have choices as teachers #ELTchat misuse of tech (mobiles) = sign of bad class

12:21 pm

chucksandy:

There was a great Design For Change project in Taiwan: YLs teach senior citizens to use mobiles & PCs to message & game in English #ELTchat

12:21 pm

AnnaMusielak:

Thank you @cybraryman1 My Pecha Kucha page: http://bit.ly/g70Num #ELTchat

12:22 pm

danhummsoriano:

I want something that is as engaging as Facebook pushing people to learn English #ELTChat

12:22 pm

chucksandy:

RT @esolcourses: RT @mmgrinberg: I regularly ask ss to take photos of the board with their mobiles. Love that idea! #ELTchat

12:22 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@e_siemens Will do :) #ELTchat

12:22 pm

Marisa_C:

@englishraven Good point - but class time needs to be used for the TRAINING part - then Ss cont f-2-f :-D #ELTChat

12:22 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

RT @englishraven: For example, why use class time doing voice messages if they could be talking face to face? #ELTChat

12:22 pm

mmgrinberg:

I use Moodle forums for writing assignments - they can comment and they do it! #eltchat

12:22 pm

e_siemens:

@esolcourses I do the same here. It's much better than having to copy everything I write on the board. #ELTChat

12:22 pm

sandymillin:

@danhummsoriano I use Edmodo with my SS - it's like facebook for education. u set up a class space. I post things for them to do #ELTChat

12:22 pm

chucksandy:

RT @englishraven: For example, why use class time doing voice messages if they could be talking face to face? - Good point! #ELTchat

12:22 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @englishraven: But one warning I guess... Don't try to use tech to 'fix' things that aren't broke! #ELTChat

12:22 pm

barbsaka:

One of the most popular topics I've talked about in blog and presentations is how to use high tech tools in low tech classrooms #eltchat

12:22 pm

juanalejandro82:

@galactadon @barbsaka #ELTChat the y DO get distracted. But it's up to us to guide them how to use tech correc? (cont) http://deck.ly/~qPVRj

12:23 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin I've never heard of Edmodo before. Is it user-friendly? #ELTChat

12:23 pm

pevansimpson:

@barbsaka ? is this, "We have a problem. What tech do we need to solve it." Not "We have this tech, what can we do with it." #eltchat

12:23 pm

bcinfrance:

I suspect many sites are...RT @danhummsoriano: I want something that is as engaging as Facebook pushing people to learn English #ELTChat

12:23 pm

mmgrinberg:

@danhummsoriano: I want something that is as engaging as Facebook pushing people to learn English #ELTChat > Have you tried Moodle?

12:23 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens Very, especially if you know your way around facbeook #ELTChat

12:23 pm

Shaunwilden:

@englishraven re voice messages. That goes back to the tech for tech sake point - we need to use tech like any other tool #eltchat

12:23 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin I do know. What's the weblink? #ELTChat

12:23 pm

sandymillin:

@barbsaka Want to do seminar on 1 comp classroom. Do you have any links #eltchat

12:23 pm

barbsaka:

Yes! RT @pevansimpson: "We have a problem. What tech do we need to solve it." Not "We have this tech, what can we do with it." #eltchat

12:23 pm

ddeubel:

I think tech. is good because students can practice outside of class. Teachers must give access somehow. #eltchat

12:23 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens www.edmodo.com ;) #ELTChat

12:24 pm

stephfuccio:

@sandymillin @stephfuccio mine too. I usually do a listening lesson with one in class first, then give them a list of sites #eltchat

12:24 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

@englishraven agree with that opinion, maybe tech should be used for homework instead where they can try practicing outside class #ELTchat

12:24 pm

juanalejandro82:

RT @ddeubel: I think tech. is good because students can practice outside of class. Teachers must give access somehow. #eltchat

12:24 pm

esolcourses:

@chucksandy @mmgrinberg another low-tech use 4 mobiles: ask s's to take pics of things they want to learn words for & bring 2 class #ELTChat

12:24 pm

chucksandy:

Glogster is an easy tech tool Ss come to love http://edu.glogster.com/ #ELTchat

12:24 pm

bcinfrance:

I have just happened to notice that my strongest English students are often techies. #ELTchat

12:24 pm

Shaunwilden:

this is the link to edmondo http://bit.ly/ZkQ5F #ELTchat

12:24 pm

gknightbkk:

@Marisa_C: Exactly. Self-access is about choices: what, when and how to learn. Worried teachers r forcing tech and alienating some #ELTchat

12:24 pm

sandymillin:

RT @ddeubel: I think tech. is good because students can practice outside of class. Teachers must give access somehow. #eltchat <me2

12:24 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

RT @chucksandy: Glogster is an easy tech tool Ss come to love http://edu.glogster.com/ #ELTchat

12:24 pm

ddeubel:

RT @englishraven: For example, why use class time doing voice messages if they could be talking face to face? #ELTChat

12:24 pm

englishraven:

I have a small confession to make... I never 'train' until the Ss have a red-hot go at figuring out tech on their own first. #ELTChat

12:25 pm

cybraryman1:

@Shaunwilden My Edmodo page: http://bit.ly/csJiLP #ELTchat

12:25 pm

AnnaMusielak:

@chucksandy @englishraven I ask them to read a text aloud as hw and then in the clr send it via bluetooth- not record on the lesson #ELTchat

12:25 pm

chucksandy:

RT @pevansimpson: "problem. What tech do we need to solve it." Not "We have this tech, what can we do with it." Not a new problem. #ELTchat

12:25 pm

sandymillin:

RT @esolcourses: @chucksandy @mmgrinberg another low-tech use 4 mobiles: ask s's to take pics of things they want to learn words for & bring 2 class #ELTChat

12:25 pm

stephfuccio:

question to all....what KIND of ESL classes are we talking about? Conv would need very diff tech than EAP #eltchat

12:25 pm

Marisa_C:

So: can we share some ideas please on how you TRAIN the learners in class to use tech in and out of class? #ELTchat

12:25 pm

englishraven:

RT @barbsaka: Shaun is right--We need to think of tech as we think of any other tool in our bag of teaching resources #eltchat >Agreed

12:25 pm

seouldaddy:

@danhummsoriano Facebook can be great to use with students if you're able to. Other like LiveMocha were made specifically for lang #ELTChat

12:25 pm

profesortbaker:

@barbsaka That addresses the reality for many teachers Barb! Well done. #ELTchat

12:25 pm

sandymillin:

RT @bcinfrance: my strongest English students are often techies. #ELTchat <interesting :) So make them techie = better Eng ;)

12:25 pm

esolcourses:

RT @chucksandy: Glogster is an easy tech tool Ss come to love http://bit.ly/10e0sf #ELTchat ] gr8 intro to tech for low level s's

12:26 pm

barbsaka:

How do you train your learners when you introduce tech in class? #eltchat Different with different ages?

12:26 pm

hoprea:

RT @Marisa_C: So: can we share some ideas please on how you TRAIN the learners in class to use tech in and out of class? #ELTchat

12:26 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin No doubt they are. #ELTChat

12:26 pm

AnnaMusielak:

My teenage girls into fashion love lookbook.nu - they learn fashion words and are eager to start their own Polish/English blogs #ELTchat

12:26 pm

stephfuccio:

@chucksandy @mmgrinberg YES! ss love talking about their phones and tech #eltchat

12:26 pm

barbsaka:

@profesortbaker I think that's why it's a popular topic. Everyone wants to enjoy benefits on online resources and tools #ELTchat

12:26 pm

chucksandy:

Long ago did a prez on the false promises of tech: remember classrooms w/ TV monitors, video players, lang labs? #ELTchat

12:26 pm

esolcourses:

RT @barbsaka: How do you train your learners when you introduce tech in class? #eltchat Different with different ages?

12:27 pm

englishraven:

If there's one thing I've learned... Ss are better at training each other with tech than I am! #ELTChat

12:27 pm

SugarJo:

RT @englishraven: If there's one thing I've learned... Ss are better at training each other with tech than I am! #ELTChat YES!

12:27 pm

mmgrinberg:

@marisa_c Encourage peer discussions / helping e/o in class even w/o computers (w printed screenshots) #eltchat

12:27 pm

sandymillin:

@Marisa_C I introduce them to a tool e.g. voicethread, we do some work with it in class, then send them home to do more #ELTchat

12:27 pm

englishraven:

RT @ddeubel: Give them a task and then go away... my solution. Don't teach technology! #ELTChat

12:27 pm

ddeubel:

RT @englishraven: If there's one thing I've learned... Ss are better at training each other with tech than I am! #ELTChat

12:27 pm

chucksandy:

RT @englishraven: If theres one thing Ive learned... Ss are better at training each other with tech than I am! YES yes yes #ELTchat

12:27 pm

e_siemens:

@englishraven Definitely. Do u know what else I've come 2 the conclusion? They are much better at it than us... and faster as well. #ELTChat

12:27 pm

bcinfrance:

I have worked on training my Ss on how to appropriately convey Internet research through oral presentations..some good results. #ELTchat

12:27 pm

galactadon:

Get everyone to try to do a task. The first one to figure out how explains to the others #eltchat

12:27 pm

sandymillin:

@Marisa_C Also, show them tutorials and let them play with tech themselves (for younger / more tech-savvy SS) #ELTchat

12:27 pm

juanalejandro82:

@englishraven they're better because they're in touch... may I say "more than constantly" haha #ELTChat

12:28 pm

domi75P:

you do not teach tech but you may need to show #ELTchat

12:28 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

RT @englishraven: If there's one thing I've learned... Ss are better at training each other with tech than I am! #ELTChat

12:28 pm

e_siemens:

I believe that teaching tech is like giving instructions: the simpler, the better. If u try 2 explain 2 much, you'll lose ur ss. #ELTChat

12:28 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @barbsaka: My students are NOT better at training each other. Digital natives is not always an age-thing #eltchat hear hear!

12:28 pm

hoprea:

RT @barbsaka: My students are NOT better at training each other. Digital natives is not always an age-thing #eltchat

12:28 pm

englishraven:

@Shaunwilden There may be some exceptions... But a housewife class in Korea could teach you a thing or two about tech, trust me! #ELTChat

12:28 pm

sandymillin:

@Marisa_C Exactly! :) And try to introduce tools which are slightly different 2 ones intro'd before, but not exactly the same #ELTchat

12:28 pm

barbsaka:

RT @e_siemens: Teaching tech is like giving instructions: the simpler, the better. If u try 2 explain 2 much, you'll lose ur ss. #ELTChat

12:29 pm

Marisa_C:

@seouldaddy good to have all these optiong though istn't it #ELTchat

12:29 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

RT @e_siemens: I believe that teaching tech is like giving instructions: the simpler, the better. If u try 2 explain 2 much, you'll lose ur ss. #ELTChat

12:29 pm

gregsweetnam:

RT @bruno_cesar82: #eltchat sometimes the only tech I have in class is my IPhone and the IWB w Internet connection -- they make wonders!

12:29 pm

esolcourses:

@barbsaka with adults and teens, I tend to do practical, hands on things first - mouse control with drag and drop vocab games #eltchat

12:29 pm

mmgrinberg:

@seouldaddy @Marisa_C thanks to @Shaunwilden I now use Jing to create video instuctions #eltchat

12:29 pm

sandymillin:

RT @galactadon: Get everyone to try to do a task. The first one to figure out how explains to the others #eltchat <great idea!

12:29 pm

profesortbaker:

@englishraven Ss are good at training me ==> 7 years agao I learned PPT from a student ==>taught myself Prezi last year #ELTchat

12:29 pm

bcinfrance:

@englishraven Not always true in rural France...I find myself in the middle tech-wise. Depends on what of course (cell phones NOT!) #ELTchat

12:29 pm

chucksandy:

The Hole in the wall experiment works http://bit.ly/bKlvEH Give students task, some tech, and step back. Ss figure it out. #ELTchat

12:29 pm

theteacherjames:

@Marisa_C Try to make it as simple as possible by removing unnecessary obstacles i.e. creating a class sign in rather than 1 each. #ELTchat

12:29 pm

seouldaddy:

@Marisa_C Sure is. I never know what will work best until I try and succeed or fail, then adjust :-) #ELTchat

12:29 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @yitzha_sarwono: RT @e_siemens: I believe that teaching tech is like giving instructions: the simpler, the better. I. #ELTChat

12:30 pm

cybraryman1:

My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://bit.ly/fatXTO #ELTchat

12:30 pm

ddeubel:

I think most classes will have a few students with strong tech skills. That's enough, just spread the wealth. #eltchat

12:30 pm

englishraven:

@barbsaka Who said/made it an age thing or that (silly) digital natives thing? #ELTChat

12:30 pm

Marisa_C:

@mmgrinberg excellent tool #eltchat

12:30 pm

barbsaka:

RT @ddeubel: I think most classes will have a few students with strong tech skills. That's enough, just spread the wealth. #eltchat

12:30 pm

seouldaddy:

@mmgrinberg I love Jing. I haven't used a better service. #eltchat

12:30 pm

domi75P:

#eltchat The simpler the better agreed but not always possible

12:30 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @mmgrinberg: I now use Jing to create video instructions #eltchat Yes jing is great for that and many other things

12:30 pm

domi75P:

RT @barbsaka: RT @ddeubel: I think most classes will have a few students with strong tech skills. That's enough, just spread the wealth. #eltchat

12:30 pm

englishraven:

RT @ddeubel: I think most classes will have a few students with strong tech skills. That's enough, just spread the wealth. #eltchat >Exactly

12:30 pm

AnnaMusielak:

I love FB-a lot of my ss added me to their friends are are eager2share links/videos, they ask for extra hm and prefer it2email msg #ELTchat

12:31 pm

domi75P:

#eltchat @englishraven with small groups it works not with the groups I get #eltchat

12:31 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

choose the one application needed and explore on it together #ELTchat maybe choose the one where all can applicate it, low tech one

12:31 pm

hackhighschool:

RT @barbsaka: Older kids learn by using tools, and making mistakes #eltchat

12:31 pm

e_siemens:

I think that once we make a big deal out of it, they'll just copy us and freak out. Why complicate things that aren't complicated? #ELTChat

12:31 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @ddeubel: I think most classes will have a few students with strong tech skills. . #eltchat > Allow them to be teachers

12:31 pm

barbsaka:

I tend to bring in small doses so that tool learning doesn't displace language learning :-) #eltchat

12:31 pm

patjack67:

My best tech moments when ss create stuff/tell their stories/become stars/cooperate w each other #Eltchat

12:31 pm

barbsaka:

RT @patjack67: My best tech moments when ss create stuff/tell their stories/become stars/cooperate w each other #Eltchat

12:32 pm

theteacherjames:

And you have to try it yourself first, so you are prepared for any eventuality. Essential. #ELTchat

12:32 pm

NewsNeus:

The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) #eltchat

12:32 pm

AnnaMusielak:

I am so sorry but i have to go, my cls start in 10 min. Have a great convo and TY #ELTchat

12:32 pm

chucksandy:

RT @barbsaka: RT @patjack67: My best tech moments when ss create stuff/tell their stories/become stars/cooperate w each other #ELTchat

12:32 pm

sandymillin:

RT @barbsaka: I tend to bring in small doses so tool learning doesn't displace language learning :-) #eltchat >exactly. Enhance nt replace

12:32 pm

esolcourses:

ESL vocab quizzes on my site for hitting 2 birds with one stone, & practising mouse control/drag and drop http://bit.ly/a9yXC4 #eltchat

12:32 pm

Shaunwilden:

Letting the sts 'bring' the tech in and showing the class has worked for me - it shouldn't always be from the teacher #ELTchat

12:32 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

@AnnaMusielak yes, FB helps a lot too here in Indonesia #ELTchat

12:32 pm

englishraven:

About Ss training each other... another thing I meant was that you can teach each student sthg different, they can pass it on. #ELTChat

12:32 pm

galactadon:

With young learners, use tech adapted to them: big buttons, pictures, and no 'dangerous' links if they click around randomly #eltchat

12:32 pm

mmgrinberg:

@Marisa_C Maybe use 'paper models' of things like chat, forums/commenting, even twitter in class be4 going online #eltchat

12:32 pm

bcinfrance:

Good point. RT @barbsaka: I tend to bring in small doses so that tool learning doesn't displace language learning :-) #eltchat

12:32 pm

tips4childcare:

RT @barbsaka: Older kids learn by using tools, and making mistakes #eltchat

12:32 pm

sandymillin:

RT @theteacherjames: try it yourself first, so you are prepared for any eventuality. Essential. #ELTchat >& have a back-up plan!

12:32 pm

seouldaddy:

RT @Shaunwilden: Letting the sts 'bring' the tech in and showing the class has worked for me - it shouldn't always be from the teacher #ELTchat

12:32 pm

e_siemens:

Teachers encouraging students to learn how to deal with tech by themselves isn't a wonderful way of fostering learner's autonomy? #ELTChat

12:32 pm

ddeubel:

RT @Shaunwilden: Letting the sts 'bring' the tech in and showing the class has worked for me - it shouldn't always be from the teacher #ELTchat

12:32 pm

barbsaka:

In some cases (my seniors) learning about tech meaning learning NOT to be afraid of it #eltchat

12:33 pm

chucksandy:

RT @NewsNeus: The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) Agree completely #ELTchat

12:33 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @chucksandy: RT @NewsNeus: The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) Agree completely #ELTchat

12:33 pm

bcinfrance:

The secret could be finding a handful of tools to use regularly and purposefully; some (me) may flit about too much. #ELTchat

12:33 pm

profesortbaker:

@ddeubel I am inclined to agree with you: set the task - get out of the way - success or failure - both have learning value #ELTchat

12:33 pm

seouldaddy:

@mmgrinberg I do a paper "Twitter" activity before unleasing the real deal. It's also a big hit. #eltchat

12:33 pm

englishraven:

RT @mmgrinberg: @Marisa_C Maybe use 'paper models' of things like chat, forums/commenting, even twitter in class be4 going online #eltchat

12:33 pm

esolcourses:

BBC Webwise is a great resource to use with higher level ELLs who are new to tech http://bbc.in/3QD3or #ELTchat

12:33 pm

englishraven:

@mmgrinberg Love those paper-based models you mention! #ELTChat

12:33 pm

e_siemens:

@seouldaddy How does that work? #ELTChat

12:34 pm

Marisa_C:

Get more advanced Ss to create tutorials for earlier levels #ELTchat - combines language work with edtech training

12:34 pm

stephfuccio:

@Marisa_C @englishraven for accuracy practice #eltchat

12:34 pm

domi75P:

#eltchat I show them on our smlartboard or do tutorials they work wonders

12:34 pm

NewsNeus:

The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) #ELTchat

12:34 pm

englishraven:

RT @Marisa_C: Get more advanced Ss to create tutorials for earlier levels #ELTchat - combines language work with edtech training > Great!

12:34 pm

chucksandy:

in fact my fave lessons involve no more than paper, markers, people & lots of collaboration. edtech 0.0 #ELTchat

12:34 pm

barbsaka:

So, tech is one of many tools, choose it when it improves on the language learning, and teach simply #eltchat

12:34 pm

domi75P:

RT @barbsaka: So, tech is one of many tools, choose it when it improves on the language learning, and teach simply #eltchat

12:34 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

RT @chucksandy: RT @NewsNeus: The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) Agree completely #ELTchat

12:34 pm

mmgrinberg:

I guess the best use of tech is one that gets your ss immersed into L2 culture #eltchat

12:34 pm

PreKlanguages:

RT @Marisa_C: Get more advanced Ss to create tutorials for earlier levels #ELTchat - combines language work with edtech training

12:34 pm

seouldaddy:

@e_siemens I hand out a paper with a space for username and message to each student. They then have a short time to write ... #ELTChat

12:34 pm

sandymillin:

RT @esolcourses: BBC Webwise is a great resource to use with higher level ELLs who are new to tech http://bbc.in/3QD3or #ELTchat

12:34 pm

SugarJo:

RT @chucksandy: in fact my fave lessons involve no more than paper, markers, people & lots of collaboration. edtech 0.0 #ELTchat BIG SMILE!

12:34 pm

esolcourses:

RT @seouldaddy @mmgrinberg I do a paper "Twitter" activity before unleasing the real deal. It's also a big hit. #eltchat ] neat idea!

12:35 pm

stephfuccio:

@seouldaddy @mmgrinberg sweet! I did this when I taught a relaxed lesson on text msg Eng. #eltchat

12:35 pm

barbsaka:

RT @mmgrinberg: I guess the best use of tech is one that gets your ss immersed into L2 culture #eltchat

12:35 pm

PreKlanguages:

RT @Marisa_C: RT @chucksandy: RT @NewsNeus: The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) Agree completely #ELTchat

12:35 pm

seouldaddy:

@e_siemens ...message and pass it to whoever they want. It gets silly and fun #ELTChat

12:35 pm

mmgrinberg:

RT @seouldaddy: @mmgrinberg I do a paper "Twitter" activity before unleasing the real deal. It's also a big hit. #eltchat

12:35 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @seouldaddy: @e_siemens ...message and pass it to whoever they want. It gets silly and fun #ELTChat

12:35 pm

esolcourses:

RT @barbsaka: RT @mmgrinberg: I guess the best use of tech is one that gets your ss immersed into L2 culture #eltchat

12:35 pm

bcinfrance:

Or just into L2, period RT @mmgrinberg: I guess the best use of tech is one that gets your ss immersed into L2 culture #eltchat

12:35 pm

barbsaka:

Some good ideas here #eltchat

12:36 pm

GilMattos:

RT @Mtranslator: #ELTchat I think technology is a motivational tool that offers possibilities of after class practice.

12:36 pm

e_siemens:

@seouldaddy Amazing. I'll definitely try it next week. How many slips of paper do you give per student? #ELTChat

12:36 pm

esolcourses:

RT @GilMattos: RT @Mtranslator: #ELTchat I think technology is a motivational tool that offers possibilities of after class practice.

12:36 pm

chucksandy:

RT @SugarJo: wanna join the edtech 0.0 movement? ^^ Colin Graham started it as a joke, but I love the dogme vibe of it. #ELTchat

12:36 pm

bcinfrance:

RT @chucksandy: in fact my fave lessons involve no more than paper, markers, people, collaboration. edtech 0.0 #ELTchat

12:36 pm

ddeubel:

RT @esolcourses: RT @barbsaka: RT @mmgrinberg: I guess the best use of tech is one that gets your ss immersed into L2 culture #eltchat

12:36 pm

englishraven:

@Mtranslator Right. Would be very interesting to list language vocab, functions. strategies that can be related to edtech training #ELTChat

12:36 pm

gknightbkk:

Only use tech that's intuitive. "Whaddya mean I must click 'START' to stop?" #ELTchat

12:36 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens Maybe put a pile of paper somewhere in the room. That way they can write as many / few as they want #ELTChat

12:36 pm

teachermedeiros:

I think tech can be helpful in the classroom if there's a good human stuff. One can't replace another #eltchat

12:36 pm

seouldaddy:

@e_siemens just one paper to each student. They have to get up and move around to pass "messages" #ELTChat

12:37 pm

Marisa_C:

RT @teachermedeiros: I think tech can be helpful in the classroom if there's a good human stuff. One can't replace another #eltchat > true

12:37 pm

chucksandy:

RT @gknightbkk: Only use tech thats intuitive. "Whaddya mean I must click START to stop?" LOL #ELTchat

12:37 pm

Shaunwilden:

RT @Marisa_C: Get adv Ss to create tutorials for earlier levels #ELTchat -combines language work with edtech training- what a good idea!

12:37 pm

profesortbaker:

RT @englishraven: About Ss training each other... another thing I meant was that you can teach each student sthg different, they can pass it on. #ELTChat

12:37 pm

Marisa_C:

@chucksandy he he he -- #ELTchat

12:37 pm

englishraven:

Might be worth thinking in two streams: (1) Edtech for learning language, (2) Edtech for using it. #ELTChat

12:37 pm

sandymillin:

RT @ddeubel: Has anyone tracked students on Eng. Central? Great for univ. level students. http://bit.ly/hdC3ZL #eltchat

12:37 pm

chucksandy:

RT @teachermedeiros: I think tech can be helpful in the classroom if theres good human stuff. One cant replace another. 3 cheers! #ELTchat

12:38 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin Yeah. Forcing them to write messages for those people they don't somehow relate to can be pretty frustrating, uhn? #ELTChat

12:38 pm

barbsaka:

RT @englishraven: Might be worth thinking in two streams: (1) Edtech for learning language, (2) Edtech for using it. #ELTChat

12:38 pm

PEGall196:

RT @Marisa_C: RT @chucksandy: RT @NewsNeus: The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) Agree completely #ELTchat

12:38 pm

chucksandy:

RT @sandymillin: Has anyone tracked students on Eng. Central? http://bit.ly/hdC3ZL Love English Central & so do my Ss #ELTchat

12:38 pm

profesortbaker:

@englishraven the Jigsaw Reading applied to tech - Each one has a piece of the puzzle - collaborate or perish #ELTchat

12:38 pm

e_siemens:

@seouldaddy Thank you very much for your wonderful idea. I'll use it and I'll let u know how it went. #ELTChat

12:38 pm

esolcourses:

@Mtranslator @GilMattos IMO, a big + Learners rarely get enough F2F time. Online practice between lessons helps them progress #ELTChat

12:38 pm

SugarJo:

@chucksandy I'll join the edtech 0.0 if we can do pecha kucha with a series of A3 cards #ELTchat Nice vibe indeed :-)

12:38 pm

kbkonnected:

RT @cybraryman1: I have sites on how to use one computer in a classroom on My Computers in the Classroom page: http://bit.ly/2pr1jn #ELTchat

12:38 pm

GilMattos:

RT @cybraryman1: If possible embed technology where it is appropriate in your lessons. Model for other teachers how you use it. #ELTchat

12:38 pm

chucksandy:

RT @barbsaka: RT @mmgrinberg: I guess the best use of tech is one that gets your ss immersed into L2 culture #ELTchat

12:38 pm

bcinfrance:

One thing that has been a #fail 4 me is getting Ss to come to my teaching blog...OK, it's not great, but I'm in a vicious circle. #ELTchat

12:39 pm

sandymillin:

@englishraven: (1) Edtech for learning it. #ELTChat Triptico great for presenting grammar http://www.triptico.co.uk/

12:39 pm

englishraven:

Sidebar: where are all the ELT edtech gurus (the ones headlinining conferences on this topic) when you need 'em? :-) #ELTChat

12:39 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens Also avoids 'I've finished' from SS #ELTChat

12:39 pm

chucksandy:

anyone using Twitter with Ss? Any success stories? #ELTchat

12:39 pm

juanalejandro82:

#ELTChat RT @grammarly: The future of libraries http://bit.ly/eERIDA What do you think? #reading #books

12:39 pm

teachermedeiros:

I use tech just 10% of my class and the other 90% it's all by myself. Tech for me is like a tool #eltchat

12:39 pm

esolcourses:

RT @englishraven Sidebar: where are all the ELT edtech gurus (the ones headlinining conferences on this topic) when U need 'em? :-) #ELTChat

12:39 pm

bruno_cesar82:

#eltchat my face tech tools are #kidblog and #voxopop my sts write and speak as they'd never

12:40 pm

englishraven:

RT @chucksandy: anyone using Twitter with Ss? Any success stories? #ELTchat > Very interested in this as well!

12:40 pm

e_siemens:

@chucksandy That's what I was hoping to hear from you guys... what about twitter in class? #ELTChat

12:40 pm

tips4childcare:

RT @Marisa_C: RT @chucksandy: RT @NewsNeus: The challenge in teaching is not WHAT tech to use, but HOW to use it. ;-) Agree completely #ELTchat

12:40 pm

mmgrinberg:

Simply asking ss to find stimulating texts online is incredibly gr8 #eltchat

12:40 pm

fionamau:

RT @chucksandy: RT @SugarJo: wanna join the edtech 0.0 movement? ^^ Colin Graham started it as a joke, but I love the dogme vibe of it. #ELTchat

12:40 pm

chucksandy:

RT @SugarJo: I love the idea of pecha kucha with a series of A3 cards! Hand drawn & colored of course ^^ #ELTchat

12:40 pm

theteacherjames:

@englishraven Not online, apparently! ;-) #ELTchat

12:40 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin Yeah. Have you ever tried this activity that @seouldaddy suggested? #ELTChat

12:40 pm

sandymillin:

@chucksandy I haven't used it, but maybe http://www.twiducate.com/ is a good alternative - private twitter-like environment #ELTchat

12:41 pm

e_siemens:

@chucksandy Wouldn't that be too time-consuming? #ELTChat

12:41 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens not with Twitter, but have done a similar thing with emails - SS not allowed to speak #ELTChat

12:41 pm

theteacherjames:

RT @teachermedeiros: I use tech just 10% of my class and the other 90% it's all by myself. Tech for me is like a tool #eltchat

12:41 pm

ddeubel:

Tech has to also be embedded in the curriculum. Marked and a requirement , not an add on... #eltchat

12:41 pm

SugarJo:

Twitter with students? Are any of my students trying to follow this? Don't be shy! #ELTchat

12:41 pm

esolcourses:

RT @ddeubel: Tech has to also be embedded in the curriculum. Marked and a requirement , not an add on... #eltchat

12:41 pm

mmgrinberg:

RT @englishraven: RT @chucksandy: anyone using Twitter with Ss? Any success stories? #ELTchat > Very interested in this as well! > Me 2

12:41 pm

GilMattos:

@esolcourses I couldn't agree more. I've had awesome experiences with shy stds in class who do communicate online #ELTChat

12:41 pm

bruno_cesar82:

#eltchat I think we could create a new chat (if there isnt already) = #EdtechChat

12:41 pm

barbsaka:

RT @GilMattos: @esolcourses I couldn't agree more. I've had awesome experiences with shy stds in class who do communicate online #ELTChat

12:41 pm

hoprea:

@englishraven @chucksandy Most of my students need to learn how to use twitter first... but very few have access to it in class. #ELTChat

12:41 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin This activity would come in handy whenever teachers are teaching ss how to write, right? Different genres and bla bla #ELTChat

12:41 pm

teachermedeiros:

But I also know some teachers who are so dependent on tech that they can't even realize a class without it! #eltchat Am I getting old?

12:41 pm

englishraven:

Do we, in fact, practice what we preach (and train)... #ELTChat

12:42 pm

seouldaddy:

@e_siemens I do Twitter outside of a writing class, then bring in samples to class to talk about (good examples & correction) #ELTChat

12:42 pm

e_siemens:

@teachermedeiros I'm one of them! #ELTChat

12:42 pm

chucksandy:

@sandymillin: thanks for this lead! http://www.twiducate.com/ #ELTchat

12:42 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens Yes indeed - relavant for tonight's chat! #ELTChat

12:42 pm

Marisa_C:

@teachermedeiros No not getting old - just getting the balance right :-D #eltchat

12:42 pm

englishraven:

RT @GilMattos: @esolcourses I couldn't agree more. I've had awesome experiences with shy stds in class who do communicate online #ELTChat

12:42 pm

ddeubel:

RT @barbsaka: RT @GilMattos: @esolcourses I couldn't agree more. I've had awesome experiences with shy stds in class who do communicate online #ELTChat

12:42 pm

galactadon:

The big advantage of tech for sts in their home countries is it's an accessible way they can meet L2 natives and interact with them #eltchat

12:42 pm

abroadlanguages:

RT @englishraven: Might be worth thinking in two streams: (1) Edtech for learning language, (2) Edtech for using it. #ELTChat

12:42 pm

sandymillin:

RT @bruno_cesar82: #eltchat I think we could create a new chat (if there isnt already) = #EdtechChat

12:42 pm

englishbyjohnny:

RT @barbsaka: So, tech is one of many tools, choose it when it improves on the language learning, and teach simply #eltchat

12:42 pm

chucksandy:

RT @SugarJo: Twitter with students? Are any of my students trying to follow this? Dont be shy! - Mine too! lots of my Ss abt ^^ #ELTchat

12:42 pm

bcinfrance:

@englishraven No one here but us Powerpoint-using, one-laptop chickens, apparently. #ELTchat

12:43 pm

e_siemens:

@seouldaddy Sounds perfect. I'll definitely follow you then. Guess I have a lot to learn from you. #ELTChat

12:43 pm

seouldaddy:

@e_siemens Just experimenting like everyone else. Some works, much doesn't :-) #ELTChat

12:43 pm

e_siemens:

@sandymillin What time will it be? #ELTChat

12:43 pm

barbsaka:

Actually, a lot of students in Japan use twitter for self study in English--not attached to any class #eltchat

12:43 pm

chucksandy:

RT @e_siemens: hand drawn A3 cards? Yes, would be time consuming but fun for pecha kucha alternatives ^^ #ELTchat

12:43 pm

esolcourses:

@barbsaka @GilMattos find another good way of bringing shy students out of their shell is involving them in online chats #ELTChat

12:43 pm

bcinfrance:

I do this. They definitely take ownership of them RT @mmgrinberg: Simply asking ss to find stimulating texts online is... gr8 #eltchat

12:44 pm

NewsNeus:

RT @theteacherjames: Just blogged - reflections on last weeks #ELTchat: Pronunciation: http://me.lt/4xNya

12:44 pm

yitzha_sarwono:

@chucksandy not Twitter, but FB...I have several students writing thread to each other in English.I basically just moderate them #ELTchat

12:44 pm

juanalejandro82:

@GilMattos @esolcourses @englishraven but sometimes we've gotta encourage shy Ss to express in real life #ELTChat

12:44 pm

profesortbaker:

RT @esolcourses: @barbsaka @GilMattos find another good way of bringing shy students out of their shell is involving them in online chats #ELTChat

12:44 pm

sandymillin:

@e_siemens 9pm GMT - not sure where you are #ELTChat

12:44 pm

ddeubel:

What about SST - sustained silent technology. Multimodal learning? #eltchat

12:44 pm

englishraven:

Right... so HOW? Is there an a), b), c) list you can follow? #ELTChat

12:44 pm

kierandonaghy: