| 3:01 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Hi all from a cloudy Abruzzo - what is the #ELTchat topic today?? |
| 3:01 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Fuertesun @SueAnnan #ELTchat topic is cats ??? |
| 3:02 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Hello and welcomt to #ELTchat our topic is What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? |
| 3:02 pm |
Larryferlazzo: |
?@janetbianchini: RT @gret Great! "Songs in EFL Classroom" by @evab2001http://me.lt/5CA1#ELTChat - fab resources Eva!!? |
| 3:02 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@janetbianchini Hi janet not sure bout the topic #ELTchat |
| 3:02 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @Marisa_C: Hello and welcomt to #ELTchat our topic is What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? |
| 3:02 pm |
SueannaN: |
@Fuertesun wow. Yes I've got two little three-year-old s from the same litter. One black and one tabby #ELTchat |
| 3:02 pm |
ELTchat: |
RT @Marisa_C: Hello and welcome to #ELTchat our topic is What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? |
| 3:02 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@europeaantje YES cats and TEFL tchrs similarities and diffs #ELTchat |
| 3:02 pm |
janetbianchini: |
For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTChat :-) |
| 3:02 pm |
SueannaN: |
@europeaantje Very funny #ELTchat |
| 3:02 pm |
englishraven: |
Everyone fired up and ready for some #ELTChat? The Raven has stayed up to 2am especially to share your august company (in January, no less!) |
| 3:02 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @ELTchat: RT @Marisa_C: Hello and welcome to #ELTchat our topic is What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? |
| 3:02 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Fuertesun :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:02 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTChat :-) > mine too :-) Join in ELT people! |
| 3:03 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @Marisa_C: Hello and welcomt to #ELTchat our topic is What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? |
| 3:03 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@englishraven well done good for you:) #ELTChat |
| 3:03 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven Glad to have you Jason!!!!! #ELTChat |
| 3:03 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@englishraven Wow we're honoured ;-) still i guess the cricket is not worth getting up for so you can lie in :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: Everyone fired up and ready for some #ELTChat? The Raven has stayed up to 2am especially to share your august company! |
| 3:03 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @Shaunwilden: @englishraven Wow we're honoured ;-) still i guess the cricket is not worth getting up for so you can lie in :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:03 pm |
englishraven: |
@Shaunwilden Oi! No cricket stuff in #ELTChat! Don't make me refer it upstairs mate... :-) |
| 3:03 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @Fuertesun: @englishraven well done good for you:) #ELTChat |
| 3:04 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven Great to have you here, Jason! #ELTChat |
| 3:04 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Phew... Just made it on time for #eltchat... Hi everyone! |
| 3:04 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @Marisa_C: @englishraven Great to have you here, Jason! #ELTChat |
| 3:04 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Wow! 2am?? @englishraven That is very dedicated, Jason! #ELTchat |
| 3:04 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @ELTchat: RT @Marisa_C: welcome to #ELTchat our topic is What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? |
| 3:04 pm |
englishraven: |
Right, so principles, people... Principles when you design your ELT materials. Shoot! #ELTChat |
| 3:04 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Phew... Made it to #eltchat... Hi everyone! :-) |
| 3:05 pm |
PearsonLongman: |
@gret reflects on her most memorable teaching moments http://bit.ly/ew6Xjc #eltchat #esl |
| 3:05 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@esolcourses Hellow there Sue and congrats on your site award - applauseeee! #ELTchat |
| 3:05 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @Marisa_C: Hello and welcomt to #ELTchat our topic is What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? |
| 3:05 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses Hellow there Sue and congrats on your site award - applauseeee! #ELTchat <2nded |
| 3:05 pm |
esolcourses: |
Hi Marisa, and thank you :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:05 pm |
gret: |
RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses Hellow there Sue and congrats on your site award - applauseeee! #ELTchat #ELTChat |
| 3:05 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
Principles would be the reasoning behind why prepare wouldn't it? #ELTChat |
| 3:05 pm |
englishraven: |
@Marisa_C I think a principle is a belief, whereas a technique is a mode of delivery... #ELTChat |
| 3:06 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @janetbianchini: For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTChat :-) > mine too :-) Join in ELT people! |
| 3:06 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cecilialcoelho #ELTchat - well very often people mention activitie in lieu of principles - we can even talk about criteria if you all like |
| 3:06 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Fun, meaningful, practical, should be relevant to students' needs #eltchat #esl |
| 3:06 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C I think a principle is a belief, whereas a technique is a mode of delivery... #ELTChat Oh I like that defintion |
| 3:06 pm |
europeaantje: |
my shot: my mats have to help my sts learn sth #eltchat |
| 3:06 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @janetbianchini: Fun, meaningful, practical, should be relevant to students' needs #eltchat #esl ] U beat me to it, Janet! |
| 3:06 pm |
eshwaranv: |
No.1 on my list would be the learners. #eltchat |
| 3:06 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C I think a principle is a belief, whereas a technique is a mode of delivery... #ELTChat Like! |
| 3:06 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @janetbianchini: Fun, meaningful, practical, should be relevant to students' needs #eltchat #esl |
| 3:06 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat Should look professional (someone blogged about this recently) |
| 3:06 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @eshwaranv: No.1 on my list would be the learners. #eltchat |
| 3:06 pm |
ddeubel: |
Principle #1 - always a photo. I've seen so many text only worksheets that aren't worth the paper.... #ELTchat |
| 3:07 pm |
eshwaranv: |
No.2 would be design #eltchat |
| 3:07 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @janetbianchini: Fun, meaningful, practical, should be relevant to students' needs #eltchat #esl > I agree |
| 3:07 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @ddeubel: Principle #1 - always a photo. I've seen so many text only worksheets that aren't worth the paper.... #ELTchat |
| 3:07 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Marisa_C @esolcourses Hellow there Sue and congrats on your site award - applauseeee! #ELTchat - Well done Sue! |
| 3:07 pm |
eshwaranv: |
and No. 3 would be content. #eltchat |
| 3:07 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden So what beliefs drive your materials design? Go on! Fess up! #ELTChat |
| 3:07 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
whether is suits the purpose of the lesson be it a skill or language point - not just cos it looks interesting to the tchr #ELTChat |
| 3:07 pm |
englishraven: |
@ddeubel So, fair to say one of your principles is for visualisation of some sort? #ELTChat |
| 3:07 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @Shaunwilden: whether is suits the purpose of the lesson be it a skill or language point - not just cos it looks interesting to the tchr #ELTChat |
| 3:07 pm |
surreallyno: |
Key -principles: engagement, empowerment , application, interaction. #ELTchat |
| 3:07 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Shaunwilden so it has to have substance huh? #ELTChat |
| 3:08 pm |
gret: |
@PearsonLongman aww thanks so much for sharing my post! I really appreciate it! #ELTChat |
| 3:08 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @Shaunwilden: whether is suits the purpose of the lesson - not just cos it looks interesting to the tchr #ELTChat <yes |
| 3:08 pm |
willycard: |
Hello #ELTchat (ters) |
| 3:08 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@willycard hi #ELTchat |
| 3:08 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven It's jus you 'n me boy.... South vs North hemi,... #ELTChat |
| 3:08 pm |
SueannaN: |
#ELTchat I think teachers have to be sensitive to the nationalities they are preparing for too |
| 3:08 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
number 1 for me wud be meet the needs of learners...and yes desing in IMPORTANT #ELTchat |
| 3:08 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@sandymillin Oh yes.... Glitz and glamor in lessons takes you nowhere. #eltchat |
| 3:08 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: number 1 for me wud be meet the needs of learners...and yes design in IMPORTANT #ELTchat |
| 3:08 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@Fuertesun Well yes in that I have seen many a tchr use sth cos they like it not thinking about the class #ELTChat |
| 3:09 pm |
englishraven: |
@Fuertesun @willycard @vladkaslniecko @SueAnnan @sandymillin Great to have yas on board for #ELTChat! |
| 3:09 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: number 1 for me wud be meet the needs of learners...and yes desing in IMPORTANT #ELTchat |
| 3:09 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
RT @SueAnnan: #ELTchat I think Ts have 2 b sensitive 2 the nationalities they are preparing 4 too > Agree...cultural diff really important! |
| 3:09 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Shaunwilden yes time fillers rather than appropriate you're right #ELTChat |
| 3:09 pm |
esolcourses: |
@englishraven @ddeubel I'm inclined to agree that visuals are important, but not sure I'd agree visuals are always necessary... #ELTchat |
| 3:09 pm |
ddeubel: |
@englishraven yep. Context for the underlying meaning. #eltchat |
| 3:09 pm |
englishraven: |
@Marisa_C It's that Athens-Melbourne thing, isn't it? :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:09 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
but it doesn't need to be a "paper" material, hmmm? #ELTchat |
| 3:09 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: but it doesn't need to be a "paper" material, hmmm? #eltchat | no, eh? |
| 3:09 pm |
eshwaranv: |
This is my fav: Do not use tech for the sake of it. #eltchat |
| 3:09 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @ddeubel Principle #1 - always a photo. I've seen so many text only worksheets that aren't worth the paper. #ELTchat - visually appealing |
| 3:09 pm |
Marisa_C: |
So the needs of the learners must be considered first - OBVIOUS but not always followed ... :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:09 pm |
alanmtait: |
#ELTchat - I meant - maybe #3 - as little on paper as possible. |
| 3:09 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@Marisa_C I think my beliefs are the same as those already listed, but mainly motivating, useful and engaging #ELTChat |
| 3:09 pm |
wellingtonros: |
RT @eshwaranv: This is my fav: Do not use tech for the sake of it. #eltchat |
| 3:10 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Marisa_C: So the needs of the learners must be considered first - OBVIOUS but not always followed ... :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:10 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@englishraven thanks Jason #ELTChat |
| 3:10 pm |
gret: |
@cecilialcoelho @SueAnnan Agreed Sue! Knowing our learners and understanding them is really important when designing material #ELTChat |
| 3:10 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C mainly motivating, useful and engaging #ELTChat <motivating especially imp. < learners must c why u use it |
| 3:10 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@janetbianchini @ddeubel So your #1 principle is: Include a strong visual element #ELTchat(translating techniques into principles - hehe) |
| 3:11 pm |
surreallyno: |
I use paper only when really needed. Otherwise, games, role-play, videos, online games #ELTchat |
| 3:11 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @esolcourses: @englishraven @ddeubel Visuals must be used but judiciously. #eltchat |
| 3:11 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C Pictures speak words... #1 #ELTchat |
| 3:11 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@Marisa_C @vladkaslniecko I agree the visual should b considered too... good looks make it more enticing - not essential, but good #ELTchat |
| 3:11 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @surreallyno: I use paper only when really needed. Otherwise, games, role-play, videos, online games #ELTchat |
| 3:11 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
get them interested in topic, make it relevant for them...that's something only teacher knows about HIS/HER stds #ELTchat |
| 3:11 pm |
surreallyno: |
I don't have a textbook either :)phew...#ELTchat |
| 3:11 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
RT @surreallyno: I use paper only when really needed. Otherwise, games, role-play, videos, online games #ELTchat> I like that |
| 3:11 pm |
englishraven: |
@alanmtait Actually, I agree w/ technique of having a lot of empty space = principle: learners will contribute to/shape materials #ELTChat |
| 3:11 pm |
esolcourses: |
@englishraven @ddeubel maybe... though to approach it from another angle, why not get learners to supply the visuals? :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:11 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@surreallyno Oh yes... And textbooks are definitely not the end of the world. #eltchat |
| 3:12 pm |
sandymillin: |
Are we talking about materials or activities? ;) #eltchat |
| 3:12 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@vladkaslniecko So... choose topics which motivate and engage the learners - How do you find out? #ELTchat |
| 3:12 pm |
SueannaN: |
I like to make sure that there are a variety of skills involved to involve all learning styles #ELTChat |
| 3:12 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
Managed to join #eltchat now! |
| 3:12 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@sandymillin Both I guess - #eltchat |
| 3:12 pm |
englishraven: |
@ddeubel I don't disagree... A goodly proportion of my materials have a visual of some sort on them. #ELTChat |
| 3:12 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
I try not to put everything on the worksheet (if there's a paper) but rather leaving SS space for taking their own notes #ELTChat |
| 3:12 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @sandymillin: Are we talking about materials or activities? ;) #eltchat Don't the two go together? |
| 3:12 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @sandymillin: Are we talking about materials or activities? ;) #eltchat 1 thought we were talking our OWN materials? |
| 3:12 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: @ddeubel I don't disagree... A goodly proportion of my materials have a visual of some sort on them. #ELTChat |
| 3:12 pm |
surreallyno: |
Principle 1 : Engagement- without it, I may very well lecture to myself. #ELTchat |
| 3:13 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@Marisa_C Interact with the learners prior to the actual classes and get their pulse. #eltchat |
| 3:13 pm |
gret: |
@surreallyno Engagement is so important! #ELTChat |
| 3:13 pm |
englishraven: |
@Shaunwilden That's a good principle right there... Materials should represent (or facilitate) activities? #ELTChat |
| 3:13 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @gret: @surreallyno Engagement is so important! #ELTChat |
| 3:13 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Visual as a hook works effectively! . #ELTChat |
| 3:13 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Have you ever asked your Ss which topics fire them up? Most teachers have odd ideas abt what keeps teen, e.g. motivated :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:13 pm |
surreallyno: |
Principle2: Empowerment- empower students to USE what you teach. Focus on the content but also on the SKILL. #ELTchat |
| 3:13 pm |
willycard: |
#ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence as principles |
| 3:13 pm |
europeaantje: |
@englishraven very ozzie Raven "i don´t disagree" #ELTChat |
| 3:13 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @willycard: #ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence as principles |
| 3:14 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Marisa_C: Have you ever asked your Ss which topics fire them up? Most teachers have odd ideas abt what keeps teen, e.g. motivated :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:14 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @janetbianchini: Visual as a hook works effectively! . #ELTChat -> Agree, and like the notion of the hook! |
| 3:14 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @Marisa_C: Have U ever asked your Ss which topics fire them up? Most tchs have odd ideas abt what keeps teen, e.g. motivated :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:14 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @Marisa_C: ever asked your Ss which topics fire them up? Most teachers have odd ideas abt what keeps teen, motivated :-) #ELTchat <tru |
| 3:14 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@Marisa_C ask them, talk a lot with them and get them write about it, we had a classroom journal last year,u can learn a lot #ELTchat |
| 3:14 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C I get them to tick a list of topics that interst them evry term #ELTchat |
| 3:14 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
RT @willycard: #ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence as principles> Like that too Willy.... fosters SS as thinkers, not just "doers" |
| 3:14 pm |
ddeubel: |
RT @englishraven: @Shaunwilden That's a good principle right there... Materials should represent (or facilitate) activities? #ELTChat |
| 3:14 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@vladkaslniecko A great idea to ask them - give them Q-aires - get them involved that way too #ELTchat |
| 3:14 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C I get them to tick a list of topics that interst them evry term #ELTchat ] same here - it's how I plan my SOW |
| 3:14 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: Have U ever asked your Ss which topics fire them up? Most tchs have odd ideas abt what keeps teen, e.g. motivated :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:15 pm |
willycard: |
@vbenevolofranca Hi Valeria!! #eltchat |
| 3:15 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Argh! I'm late. What is the #ELTchat topic??? |
| 3:15 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @willycard: #ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence as principles | me too, just couldn´t find the words :-) |
| 3:15 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @vladkaslniecko A great idea to ask them - give them Q-aires - get them involved that way too #ELTchat |
| 3:15 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: RT @willycard: #ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence as principles> Like that too Willy.... fosters SS as thinkers, not just "doers" |
| 3:15 pm |
cybraryman1: |
My Vocabulary page http://cybraryman.com/vocabulary.html engchat #eltchat #elemchat ellchat |
| 3:15 pm |
Celinejr: |
RT @surreallyno: Principle2: Empowerment- empower students to USE what you teach. Focus on the content but also on the SKILL. #ELTchat |
| 3:15 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@esolcourses @Marisa_C when i had teenagers last yar, we worked a lot with Twilight saga...use the content to show them language #ELTchat |
| 3:15 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: RT @willycard: #ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence (creativity) as principles> good principles, both of them |
| 3:16 pm |
englishraven: |
@harrisonmike Principles associated with preparing materials for your classes... #ELTChat |
| 3:16 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
Teen learners today are surrounded by images. It´s an integral part of their lives. Think materials/activites need visual element. #eltchat |
| 3:16 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: RT @willycard: #ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence as principles> Like that too Willy.... fosters SS as thinkers, not just "doers" |
| 3:16 pm |
ddeubel: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: RT @willycard: #ELTchat I enjoy: open-endedness / divergence as principles> Like that too Willy.... fosters SS as thinkers, not just "doers" |
| 3:16 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @vbenevolofranca: Teen learners today are surrounded by images. It´s an integral part of their lives. Think materials/activites need visual element. #eltchat |
| 3:16 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C I get them to tick a list of topics that interst them evry term #ELTchat - another good idea here |
| 3:16 pm |
surreallyno: |
Principle 3: Application - s should apply what they learn in real-life context. Create stories to share, dialogues w/family, etc #ELTchat |
| 3:16 pm |
amorim_kelly: |
RT @vbenevolofranca: Teen learners today are surrounded by images. It´s an integral part of their lives. Think materials/activites need visual element. #eltchat |
| 3:16 pm |
Fuertesun: |
I have to say use very ittle of my OWN material thats the norm huh? #eltchat |
| 3:16 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@harrisonmike What principles do you follow when you prepare your own teaching materials? #ELTChat |
| 3:17 pm |
sandymillin: |
@Fuertesun #eltchat wish it were - but have coursebook-bound syllabus - try to vary it when I can |
| 3:17 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Look for inspiration anywhere and everywhere for a start #eltchat |
| 3:17 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Yes, I sometimes ask learners to choose topics they would like to discuss -so it comes from them, not me all the time #ELTChat |
| 3:17 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Study materials shouldn't just transfer knowledge. It should enable the learners to make connections. #eltchat |
| 3:17 pm |
gret: |
RT @harrisonmike: Look for inspiration anywhere and everywhere for a start #eltchat #ELTChat |
| 3:17 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @harrisonmike: Look for inspiration anywhere and everywhere for a start #eltchat |
| 3:17 pm |
alanmtait: |
@harrisonmike Too late Mike - we're not telling you. You'll have to guess ; #eltchat |
| 3:18 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
i remember @ShellTerrell told me she asks her stds to make a list of topics they want to talk about; 1 topic for 1 lesson - great #ELTchat |
| 3:18 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@surreallyno So the principle is "Design material/activs which echo real life tasks;" #ELTchat |
| 3:18 pm |
Celinejr: |
What will I use to make sure I reach all students? How do I check they can use what they have learned? #ELTChat |
| 3:18 pm |
europeaantje: |
@alanmtait @harrisonmike LOL #eltchat |
| 3:18 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @eshwaranv: Study materials shouldn't just transfer knowledge. It should enable the learners to make connections. #eltchat > Like that! |
| 3:18 pm |
esolcourses: |
I like to personalise/adapt. A lot of the materials I use with learners follows on from work they produced in prev. sessions. #ELTchat |
| 3:18 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
Many times I try to find an angle within the topic I have to cover (from the school's syllabus) that might fit SS' interests better #ELTChat |
| 3:18 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Planning the structure of your study material in such a way that it provides a flexible learning environment. #eltchat |
| 3:18 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @vbenevolofranca Teen learners today are surrounded by images. It´s an integral part of their lives.... need visual element. #eltchat |
| 3:18 pm |
willycard: |
#eltchat always good to remind that learners DON'T have to be doing the same thing at the same time |
| 3:18 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @eshwaranv: Planning the structure of your study material in such a way that it provides a flexible learning environment. #eltchat |
| 3:19 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @willycard: #eltchat always good to remind that learners DON'T have to be doing the same thing at the same time |
| 3:19 pm |
englishraven: |
@Celinejr Are those questions you are asking now, or Qs you ask by principle when preparing your materials? :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:19 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @janetbianchini: Yes, I smetims ask learnrs 2 choose topics they wld lk 2 discuss -so it comes from thm, nt me al the time #ELTChat> me 2 |
| 3:19 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @willycard: #eltchat always good to remind that learners DON'T have to be doing the same thing at the same time ] good point |
| 3:19 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@cecilialcoelho yes exactly, i have 2 follow syllabus but sometimes it's so hmmm not inspiring or interesting for them #ELTchat |
| 3:19 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @willycard: #eltchat always good to remind that learners DON'T have to be doing the same thing at the same time ] good point |
| 3:19 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@alanmtait Too late, they already did! ;o) #eltchat |
| 3:19 pm |
gret: |
RT @Marisa_C: @surreallyno So the principle is "Design material/activs which echo real life tasks;" #ELTchat |
| 3:19 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
RT @harrisonmike: Look for inspiration anywhere and everywhere for a start #eltchat > And have a specific class in mind maybe? |
| 3:19 pm |
gret: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: i remember @ShellTerrell told me she asks her stds to make a list of topics they want to talk about; 1 topic for 1 lesson - great #ELTchat |
| 3:20 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@Marisa_C @willycard They don't have 2 b doing the same thing at the same time, but depending on the T's load... diff to b differnt #eltchat |
| 3:20 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: Many times I try to find an angle within the topic I have to cover (from the school's syllabus) that might fit SS' interests better #ELTChat |
| 3:20 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
and when i want them to speak, it should be something they WANT to speak about #ELTchat |
| 3:20 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@sandymillin I'm coursebook bound too! know how you feel #eltchat |
| 3:20 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Syllabus is mandatory... Textbooks aren't. #eltchat |
| 3:20 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Agreed RT @willycard: #eltchat always good to remind that learners DON'T have to be doing the same thing at the same time |
| 3:20 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @europeaantje: RT @sandymillin: Are we talking abt materials or activities? ;) #eltchat 1 thought we were tlking our OWN materials? >me 2 |
| 3:20 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@vladkaslniecko And finding that more interesting angle can be quite challenging, espec with some of the topics #ELTchat |
| 3:20 pm |
surreallyno: |
Textbooks are just instruments - drop them. Look for knowledge and skills you want your students to have. #ELTchat |
| 3:20 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: and when i want them to speak, it should be something they WANT to speak about #ELTchat Completely agree :-) |
| 3:20 pm |
englishraven: |
I particularly like that principle of the material/activity interface. Must avoid temptation to do all the work/thinking on paper. #ELTChat |
| 3:20 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Marisa_C @surreallyno So the principle is "Design material/activs which echo real life tasks;" #ELTchat |
| 3:20 pm |
willycard: |
RT @Celinejr: What will I use to make sure I reach all sts? How do I check they can use what they've learned? #ELTChat Self-assessment helps |
| 3:21 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: I particularly like that principle of the material/activity interface. Must avoid temptation to do all the work/thinking on paper. #ELTChat |
| 3:21 pm |
Celinejr: |
@englishraven I just like to remind myself of those when I get a lesson ready...making sure I do not lose my objective #ELTChat |
| 3:21 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @Celinejr: @englishraven I just like to remind myself of those when I get a lesson ready...making sure I do not lose my objective #ELTChat |
| 3:21 pm |
Celinejr: |
RT @surreallyno: Textbooks are just instruments - drop them. Look for knowledge and skills you want your students to have. #ELTchat |
| 3:21 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@DinaDobrou Totally, you need to know your students. You get to know them thru the course of a course - find what works and use it #eltchat |
| 3:21 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven Agree 100% with you there Mr. Raven (re interface and not doing all the thinking)... very tempting #ELTChat |
| 3:21 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @englishraven: I like tht principle of material/activity interface. Must avoid temptation to do all the work/thinking on paper. #ELTChat |
| 3:21 pm |
englishraven: |
@Celinejr Right - thanks for that clarification! And I think that IS a good principle to have. #ELTChat |
| 3:22 pm |
gret: |
@janetbianchini @Marisa_C @surreallyno meaningful tasks are so important! It gets our students motivated too! #ELTChat |
| 3:22 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @englishraven: I particularly like that principle of the material/activity interface. Must avoid temptation to do all the work/thinking on paper. #ELTChat |
| 3:22 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @gret: @janetbianchini @Marisa_C @surreallyno meaningful tasks are so important! It gets our students motivated too! #ELTChat |
| 3:22 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: @englishraven Agree 100% with you there Mr. Raven (re interface and not doing all the thinking)... very tempting #ELTChat |
| 3:22 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @esolcourses RT @willycard: #eltchat good 2 remind that learners DON'T have 2 be doing same thing at same time>commom practice in school |
| 3:22 pm |
surreallyno: |
Principle 4- without INTERACTION s learn in isolation. I know how I missed that in my young age. #ELTchat |
| 3:22 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @janetbianchini: @surreallyno "Design material/activs which echo real life tasks;" #ELTchat or that provide a stepping stone to real use |
| 3:22 pm |
seburnt: |
Is there reason to do an unmeaningful task? G'morning all. #ELTchat |
| 3:22 pm |
englishraven: |
@cecilialcoelho @sandymillin Right... so design according to an activity you want to happen, not a product scripted in advance #ELTChat |
| 3:22 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@gret Right! Design material which makes Ss THINK of meaning, not meanigles repetition stuff #ELTChat |
| 3:23 pm |
europeaantje: |
for all of us coursebook bound: i do most of my own mat making after i notice sts didn´t "get it", then make sth will help better #eltchat |
| 3:23 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Do I need to prepare my own materials. I have them right in front of me - in the students #eltchat |
| 3:23 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @seburnt: Is there reason to do an unmeaningful task? G'morning all. #ELTchat |
| 3:23 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@seburnt meaningful is relative huh? #ELTchat |
| 3:23 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@seburnt Nothing specific. Unmeaningful tasks happen when teachers don't realize it. #eltchat |
| 3:23 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven Design focusing on task not on function? #ELTChat |
| 3:23 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @seburnt: Is there reason to do an unmeaningful task? G'morning all. #ELTchat Miguided teachers? Contrived language practice .... |
| 3:23 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @englishraven: @cecilialcoelho @sandymillin Right... so design according to an activity you want to happen, not a product scripted in advance #ELTChat |
| 3:23 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@harrisonmike That is such a dogme statement Mike ;-) #eltchat |
| 3:24 pm |
sandymillin: |
@europeaantje #eltchat edit what is in book whenever possible - but with 13 groups not always time! |
| 3:24 pm |
seburnt: |
I use almost all original material. It's the nature of my program. The key principle is integration into meaningful context. #ELTchat |
| 3:24 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @Marisa_C: @gret Right! Design material which makes Ss THINK of meaning, not meanigles repetition stuff #ELTChat |
| 3:24 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @europeaantje: for all of us coursebook bound: i do most of my own mat making after i notice sts didn´t "get it", then make sth will help better #eltchat |
| 3:24 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@Shaunwilden @seburnt Old habits?? School policy? #ELTchat |
| 3:24 pm |
gret: |
RT @seburnt: I use almost all original material. It's the nature of my program. The key principle is integration into meaningful context. #ELTchat |
| 3:24 pm |
Marisa_C: |
I'm going to be boring: Design material which fulfills your aims & not just sth u thought hhmm that's nice! Rehearse activities #ELTchat |
| 3:24 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Marisa_C: I'm going to be boring: Design material which fulfills your aims & not just sth u thought hhmm that's nice! Rehearse activities #ELTchat |
| 3:24 pm |
eshwaranv: |
I've seen some ELTs doing Ctrl+c, Ctrl+v from web sites... Pathetic stuff. #eltchat |
| 3:24 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @seburnt: I use almost all original material. It's the nature of my program. The key principle is integration into meaningful context. #ELTchat |
| 3:24 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@Marisa_C What do you mean by rehearse activities Marisa? #ELTchat |
| 3:25 pm |
seburnt: |
@Fuertesun Sure, meaningful is relative, but it should be meaningful to someone other than the activity writer. #ELTchat |
| 3:25 pm |
BloggersELT: |
They tried to teach me with edtech #fromherarchives #classicblogging @esolcourseshttp://ow.ly/39uSI#edtech #eltchat |
| 3:25 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@eshwaranv I've seen that too...sometimes without even changing the heading...gives me the creeps #eltchat |
| 3:25 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: @harrisonmike That is such a dogme statement Mike ;-) #eltchat > I'm glad you said that! |
| 3:25 pm |
harrisonmike: |
I sometimes like to take inspiration from oddball stuff like these: http://trunc.it/dn2anhttp://trunc.it/dovpe #eltchat |
| 3:25 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Marisa_C: I'm going 2 b boring:Design mat which fulfills your aims & not just sth u thght that's nice! #ELTchat Spot the tutor ;-) |
| 3:25 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cecilialcoelho Run through activitie before use to make sure they generate language in your aims #ELTchat |
| 3:25 pm |
gret: |
@Marisa_C That's true! We sometimes think something is cool, but is it relevant? Focusing on our aims is essential. #ELTCHat |
| 3:25 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@harrisonmike Mike, i wish i could see it like you... ok, maybe sometimes it happens:-P #ELTchat |
| 3:25 pm |
englishraven: |
Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat |
| 3:25 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@seburnt haha yes true #ELTchat |
| 3:25 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @englishraven: Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat |
| 3:25 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat Reflect key word |
| 3:26 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat |
| 3:26 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@cecilialcoelho Oh yes... With the radio buttons and the odd spacing. They don't bother to format the text. #eltchat |
| 3:26 pm |
europeaantje: |
@englishraven ...and the reverse: don´t keep repeating the same mats w diff sts #ELTChat |
| 3:26 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@Marisa_C Yes, of course... Rehearsing does not ensure not flaws / trouble, but it sure prevents some problems #ELTchat |
| 3:26 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@SueannaN @cecilialcoelho With 24 contact hrs and 13 for 'admin' I can't spend ages prepping worksheets etc =( #eltchat |
| 3:26 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden Being a tutor is second nature - what can i do?? :-D #ELTchat |
| 3:26 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @harrisonmike: @SueannaN @cecilialcoelho With 24 contact hrs and 13 for 'admin' I can't spend ages prepping worksheets etc =( #eltchat |
| 3:26 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Yes RT @cecilialcoelho: @Marisa_C Yes, of course...Rehearsing does not ensure not flaws/trouble, but it sure prevents some problems #ELTchat |
| 3:26 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@englishraven i keep them...but usually don't use with another group :( #ELTchat |
| 3:26 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @harrisonmike: @SueannaN @cecilialcoelho With 24 contact hrs and 13 for 'admin' I can't spend ages prepping worksheets =#eltchat agree |
| 3:27 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @englishraven Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat - Good point! |
| 3:27 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@harrisonmike @SueannaN #eltchat Hear Hear Mike! |
| 3:27 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @janetbianchini: RT @englishraven Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat - Good point! |
| 3:27 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @janetbianchini: RT @englishraven Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat - Good point! |
| 3:27 pm |
willycard: |
#eltchat a wise man once said "If the planning of an activity takes a lot more time than the actual doing of it, it ain't good"- is it true? |
| 3:27 pm |
SueannaN: |
@englishraven sometimes the same material works differently in different classes anyway #ELTChat |
| 3:27 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @gret @Marisa_C That's true! sometimes think something is coo, but is it relevant?Focusing on our aims is essential. #ELTCHat |
| 3:27 pm |
englishraven: |
@europeaantje Actually, I will disagree (slightly) there. DO repeat some materials with different Ss, to see if results differ. #ELTChat |
| 3:27 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @harrisonmike: With 24 contact hrs and 13 for 'admin' I can't spend ages prepping worksheets etc =( #eltchat <nor me |
| 3:27 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@janetbianchini @englishraven Absolutely! Even if they work really well, there's always possible reflection / improvement #ELTChat |
| 3:27 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @englishraven: Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat |
| 3:27 pm |
seburnt: |
@cecilialcoelho @Shaunwilden I think school policy is a guide, but if Sts benefit & there r results, admin won't mind swaing away. #ELTchat |
| 3:27 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@Marisa_C :-) I can imagine how many times you've said the 'design for aims' bit in TP feedback :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:27 pm |
Fuertesun: |
Who has time for preparing all these mats? #eltchat |
| 3:27 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@vladkaslniecko Sometimes it fails hugely. Will blog about that the next time it does #eltchat A sort of 'dogme didn't do it' moment |
| 3:27 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@willycard Disagree with that one. #eltchat |
| 3:28 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden you know~ #ELTChat |
| 3:28 pm |
esolcourses: |
@englishraven I find myself constantly re-working and adapting materials, to suit different learner groups #ELTChat |
| 3:28 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Marisa_C You are a natural born tutor :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:28 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @willycard: #eltchat a wise man once said "If the planning of an activity takes a lot more time than the actual doing of it, it ain't good"- is it true? |
| 3:28 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
@Marisa_C Teacher's tend to do that just cos an activity i be fun. But even if sts like it they feel: What's In It For Me? (WIIFM) #ELTchat |
| 3:28 pm |
englishraven: |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden I agree with the importance of aims, but also would encourage somewhat 'aimless' materials sometimes, too! #ELTChat |
| 3:28 pm |
seburnt: |
@willycard That's a pretty good rule of thumb, yes! #ELTchat |
| 3:28 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@seburnt @Shaunwilden #ELTchat Can I come work for you Tyson??? Mostly true, but not completely - for me at least. |
| 3:28 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@janetbianchini no such thing as natural born!!!! hahahah #ELTchat |
| 3:28 pm |
europeaantje: |
@englishraven totally agreed. I meant don´t presume results will always be the same. Also, think on ur feet! #ELTChat |
| 3:29 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Agree RT @SueannaN: RT @englishraven: Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat |
| 3:29 pm |
ddeubel: |
RT @harrisonmike: Do I need to prepare my own materials. I have them right in front of me - in the students #eltchat |
| 3:29 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@seburnt @Shaunwilden #ELTchat In the end, u always have to cover what they had determined. You just have to find ways to do everything! |
| 3:29 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: @janetbianchini @englishraven Absolutely! Even if they work really well, there's always possible reflection / improvement #ELTChat |
| 3:29 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: @Marisa_C You are a natural born tutor :-) #ELTchat > No I am not - I make myself look natural :-) works both ways |
| 3:29 pm |
gret: |
@esolcourses @englishraven me too! even if task was successful, I reflect on it and try to improve it. #ELTChat |
| 3:29 pm |
BethCagnol: |
Stuck writing tests and grading this PM. (with the help of David Guetta's music of course). Missing #ELTCHAT again! #bigfat:-( |
| 3:29 pm |
englishraven: |
@esolcourses Yep, me too - 5-10 layers of review/experimentation (at least, and in some cases, years!) #ELTChat |
| 3:29 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
got to go set up the IH #DOSconference that starts tomorrow (we'll tweet it as much as we can) , enjoy the rest of #ELTChat |
| 3:29 pm |
seburnt: |
@Fuertesun Most prep of materials is adaptation so you know how you'll use it, right? Doesn't take forever. #ELTchat |
| 3:29 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@englishraven @europeaantje i used them when i had more groups of the same level...and it differed! yes! :) #ELTchat |
| 3:29 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
RT @harrisonmike: Agree RT @SueannaN: RT @englishraven: Hugely important -- don't discard materials after one try. Reflect, edit, adapt, recycle...? #ELTChat |
| 3:29 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @europeaantje: @englishraven totally agreed. I meant don´t presume results will always be the same. Also, think on ur feet! #ELTChat |
| 3:30 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @cecilialcoelho @Marisa_C Rehearsing #ELTchat> but need to remember students will add different contributions - this changes material |
| 3:30 pm |
willycard: |
#ELTchat This is a must read in my opinion: Non-linearity and the observed lesson by David Mallowshttp://bit.ly/f9bg65 |
| 3:30 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@SueannaN @englishraven Blog ur lessons as a resource. I went bak to Christian the lion 1 yr later&did the lesson quite differently #eltchat |
| 3:30 pm |
europeaantje: |
@englishraven @janetbianchini also I´ve got some pretty darn good mats that I´ve refined over the years & never fail me :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:30 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat http://bit.ly/fVuYZw Use Dave's challenge to blog on failures when reflecting on activities that don't work @englishraven |
| 3:30 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@janetbianchini @englishraven @europeaantje #ELTChat Reflecting upon a mat that worked 2 put yr finger on wht made it wrk can b helpful too |
| 3:30 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Prep time is important, but I don't believe in it being shorter than the actual activity. Am I living a luxurious life here? #eltchat |
| 3:30 pm |
englishraven: |
Another of my hugely important principles: If it looks/feels boring to/for YOU, probably shouldn't go into the classroom... #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: @janetbianchini @englishraven @europeaantje #ELTChat Reflecting upon a mat that worked 2 put yr finger on wht made it wrk can b helpful too |
| 3:31 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my hugely important principles: If it looks/feels boring to/for YOU, probably shouldn't go into the classroom... #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
@harrisonmike @SueannaN @englishraven Sth that doesn't work in a class can work in another. #ELTchat |
| 3:31 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my hugely important principles: If it looks/feels boring to/for YOU, probably shouldn't go into the classroom... #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my hugely important principles: If it looks/feels boring to/for YOU, probably shouldn't go into the classroom... #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @europeaantje: @englishraven @janetbianchini also I´ve got some pretty darn good mats that I´ve refined over the years & never fail me :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@vbenevolofranca @Marisa_C #ELTchat I agree Valeria, but you can predict the most probable problems. |
| 3:31 pm |
europeaantje: |
@cecilialcoelho @janetbianchini @englishraven re reflecting: absolutely #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@englishraven I agree same mats I have created have different effects on diff sts #ELTchat -if sth has taken ages to do, it's good to reuse! |
| 3:31 pm |
esolcourses: |
@englishraven think you have to keep reviewing and adapting stuff (and sometimes taking risks) if you want to develop as a teacher #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @esolcourses: @englishraven think you have to keep reviewing and adapting stuff (and sometimes taking risks) if you want to develop as a teacher #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @esolcourses: @englishraven think you have to keep reviewing and adapting stuff (and sometimes taking risks) if you want to develop as a teacher #ELTChat |
| 3:31 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cecilialcoelho yes you can - troubleshoot like a fiend! #ELTchat |
| 3:31 pm |
seburnt: |
It's all true--time spent creating materials is largest the first time. After that, they become part of your adaptable repertoire. #ELTchat |
| 3:32 pm |
HeikePhilp: |
RT @shamblesguru: EVO Session VILLAGE2010 a free 5-week workshop in Second Life for Eng Lang teachers http://village.grouply.com/ #village11 #engchat #eltchat |
| 3:32 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @seburnt: It's all true--time spent creating materials is largest the first time. After that, they become part of your adaptable repertoire. #ELTchat |
| 3:32 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
RT @DinaDobrou: @harrisonmike @SueannaN @englishraven Sth that doesn't wrk in a class can wrk in anther. #ELTchat >Couldn't agree more Dina! |
| 3:32 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @seburnt: It's all true--time spent creating materials is largest the first time. After that, they become part of your adaptable repertoire. #ELTchat |
| 3:32 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@englishraven but....it happens sometimes that somethin really interesting for me was not that popular in class...#ELTchat |
| 3:32 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my hugely important principles: If it looks/feels boring to/for YOU, probably shouldn't go into the classroom... #ELTChat |
| 3:32 pm |
englishraven: |
@esolcourses You're freaky you are... saying more eloquently what's in my head and can't get out! #ELTChat |
| 3:32 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Get the students to do your drawings for you (for vocab, for example) http://trunc.it/dp3jb #eltchat |
| 3:32 pm |
farflungstar: |
#ELTChat Students + constant grammar rules + written activities = boredom | meaning + imagination + diversity + simplicity = engagement |
| 3:32 pm |
englishraven: |
@vladkaslniecko True, but I think it's a principle worth the risk! #ELTChat |
| 3:32 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@englishraven but it's again about getting to know your studetns :) #ELTchat |
| 3:32 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@harrisonmike that's a trick not a principle - get back in line grrrr :-) #eltchat |
| 3:32 pm |
seburnt: |
Plus, if you have confidence in your materials, students will have confidence in them. If you think they suck, they will. #ELTchat |
| 3:33 pm |
miladakrajewska: |
Keeping sts in suspence & revealing things step by step with the board, props, images or video clips + a well-rehearsed plan #eltchat |
| 3:33 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven @esolcourses That Mrs Lyon-Jones is a wonder, she is... mind blowing ;-) #ELTChat |
| 3:33 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my hugely important principles: If it looks/feels boring to/for YOU, probably shouldn't go into the classroom... #ELTChat |
| 3:33 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: it happens sometimes that somethin really interesting for me was not that popular in class. | recognise that!..#ELTchat |
| 3:33 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@DinaDobrou @SueannaN @englishraven @cecilialcoelho And you can learn a lot from using same mats with diff classes #eltchat |
| 3:33 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @miladakrajewska: Keeping sts in suspence & revealing things step by step with the board, props, images or video clips + a well-rehearsed plan #eltchat |
| 3:33 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
@cecilialcoelho @Marisa_C Yes, troubleshooting is a good one! #ELTchat |
| 3:33 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @europeaantje: RT @vladkaslniecko: it happens sometimes that somethin really interesting for me was not that popular in class. | recognise that!..#ELTchat |
| 3:33 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @esolcourses: @englishraven think you have to keep reviewing and adapting stuff (and sometimes taking risks) if you want to develop as a teacher #ELTChat |
| 3:33 pm |
esolcourses: |
@englishraven LOL! you're much more eloquent than I am at 2.30am in the morning; trust me! #ELTChat |
| 3:33 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Fuertesun I do believe there are a few natural born teachers, but quite rare to find, otherwise most become good through time lol #ELTChat |
| 3:33 pm |
englishraven: |
Don't ever put on/in your materials stuff the students can't say or write or do on their own (even if it needs a little help)? #ELTChat |
| 3:34 pm |
Celinejr: |
RT @farflungstar: #ELTChat Students + constant grammar rules + written activities = boredom | meaning + imagination + diversity + simplicity = engagement |
| 3:34 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@Marisa_C It's my principle more and more ;o) #eltchat |
| 3:34 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Marisa_C @harrisonmike hit upon a principle: don´t do the work if the sts can do it for you. Seriously. #eltchat |
| 3:34 pm |
SueannaN: |
@harrisonmike I agree. If you take time to prepare mat, build in some variability so that it can be re-used again #eltchat |
| 3:34 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @miladakrajewska: Keeping sts in suspence & revealing things step by step with the board, props, images or video clips + a well-rehearsed plan #eltchat |
| 3:34 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @europeaantje: @Marisa_C @harrisonmike hit upon a principle: don´t do the work if the sts can do it for you. Seriously. #eltchat |
| 3:34 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
@harrisonmike & they luv it if you ask them to bring tech stuff they find online to be used in class. #ELTchat |
| 3:34 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: Don't ever put on/in your materials stuff the students can't say or write or do on their own #ELTChat |
| 3:34 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven I might put things they can't fo on their own if I plpan on doing it as classwork - I'll guide the use #ELTChat |
| 3:35 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @englishraven: Don't ever put on/in your materials stuff the students can't say or write or do on their own (even if it needs a little help)? #ELTChat |
| 3:35 pm |
padgets: |
RT @cybraryman1: My Vocabulary page http://cybraryman.com/vocabulary.html engchat #eltchat#elemchat ellchat |
| 3:35 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat I keep all materials in folders on computer - make filenames clear then can find it quickly for SS when asked |
| 3:35 pm |
esolcourses: |
@cecilialcoelho LOL! you're makin' me blush now, Ceci :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:35 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @SueannaN: @harrisonmike I agree. If you take time to prepare mat, build in some variability so that it can be re-used again #eltchat |
| 3:35 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I keep all materials in folders on computer - make filenames clear then can find it quickly for SS when asked |
| 3:35 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@seburnt @Shaunwilden Very common for admin to get caught up on what has to be covered, what has been "promised"parents... #ELTChat |
| 3:36 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@janetbianchini got myself in hot water with that post! #ELTChat |
| 3:36 pm |
englishraven: |
A little over halfway through #ELTChat, folks... Keeping up? Brisk pace we've got going tonight! |
| 3:36 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@europeaantje @Marisa_C Not just me. @TurklishTEFL too: http://trunc.it/dik7d #eltchat |
| 3:36 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: @seburnt @Shaunwilden Very common for admin to get caught up on what has to be covered, what has been "promised"parents... #ELTChat |
| 3:36 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat When SS have to buy coursebooks, they want to use them - so I try to mix book, my mat and SS mat |
| 3:36 pm |
seburnt: |
Student-generated material cuts down on your prep and is more meaningful to students! #ELTchat |
| 3:36 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@europeaantje That's great esp when u have put a lot of effort into a particular lesson (my faves consist of phrasal verbs lessons) #ELTChat |
| 3:37 pm |
europeaantje: |
@harrisonmike good @Marisa_C kept you in line though: what are the principles? LOL #eltchat |
| 3:37 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
RT @seburnt: Student-generated material cuts down on your prep and is more meaningful to students! #ELTchat |
| 3:37 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@DinaDobrou Had a good exp asking sts to find adverts on YouTube. I got material for a future lesson there! #eltchat |
| 3:37 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @seburnt: Student-generated material cuts down on your prep and is more meaningful to students! #ELTchat --ohh yeah! |
| 3:37 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@europeaantje te he he was just kidding #eltchat |
| 3:37 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@esolcourses Good to bring a bit of color into yr cheeks ;-) #ELTchat |
| 3:37 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @englishraven: RT @seburnt: Student-generated material cuts down on your prep and is more meaningful to students! #ELTchat --ohh yeah! |
| 3:37 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat I keep all materials in folders on computer - make filenames clear then can find it quickly when asked> me too |
| 3:37 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @englishraven: RT @seburnt: Student-generated material cuts down on your prep and is more meaningful to students! #ELTchat --ohh yeah! |
| 3:37 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
@europeaantje @englishraven With help you can bring things to the next level. Without it can be threatening. #ELTchat |
| 3:37 pm |
esolcourses: |
@eshwaranv @sandymillin good idea - though better still, upload materials to a website or wiki so students can practice at home #ELTChat |
| 3:37 pm |
seburnt: |
@sandymillin They can use exercises from it for HW if nothing else. Don't waste class time on useless activities from texts. #ELTchat |
| 3:37 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: RT @seburnt: Student-generated material cuts down on your prep and is more meaningful to students! #ELTchat --ohh yeah! |
| 3:37 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Agghh!! - I'm #ELTChat 62 tweets behind for some reason!! It's going very fast today |
| 3:38 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @esolcourses: @eshwaranv @sandymillin good idea - though better still, upload materials to a website or wiki so students can practice at home #ELTChat |
| 3:38 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Marisa_C ;-) #ELTchat |
| 3:38 pm |
ALiCe__M: |
@englishraven I agree abt the need 4 "aimless" materials, those providing enjoyment pleasure laughter or just triggering curiosity #eltchat |
| 3:38 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @ALiCe__M: @englishraven I agree abt the need 4 "aimless" materials, those providing enjoyment pleasure laughter or just triggering curiosity #eltchat |
| 3:38 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@esolcourses Like that idea... Wikis should be great. #eltchat |
| 3:38 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@janetbianchini Might be because I think we have more chatters than usual Janet #ELTChat |
| 3:38 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @ALiCe__M: @englishraven I agree abt the need 4 "aimless" materials, those providing enjoyment pleasure laughter or just triggering curiosity #eltchat |
| 3:38 pm |
sandymillin: |
@esolcourses #eltchat I upload anything we've done in class to edmodo - SS ask for it now if I forget! |
| 3:38 pm |
farflungstar: |
#ELTChat Allow students to shape materials - use art for students to express what they cannot express - and use that to teach how to express |
| 3:39 pm |
englishraven: |
@janetbianchini Watch out when those there black wings are gusting behind #ELTChat! |
| 3:39 pm |
europeaantje: |
RT @DinaDobrou: @europeaantje @englishraven principle number...ehmm: pitch match at right level for sts #ELTchat |
| 3:39 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @farflungstar: #ELTChat Allow students to shape materials - use art for students to express what they cannot express - and use that to teach how to express |
| 3:39 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@farflungstar I use mind mapping. Sts get to express and make connections too. #eltchat |
| 3:39 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Don't forget the play factor. Materials which encourage learning through play are important! #ELTchat |
| 3:39 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @sandymillin: @esolcourses #eltchat I upload anything we've done in class to edmodo - SS ask for it now if I forget! |
| 3:39 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@harrisonmike yes, that was successful in my class too, when we worked with commercials..they continued at home,YouTube #ELTchat |
| 3:40 pm |
englishraven: |
@europeaantje Yes, the issue of leveling/accessibility is important #ELTChat |
| 3:40 pm |
alanmtait: |
RT @ALiCe__M: @englishraven I agree abt the need 4 "aimless" materials, those providing enjoyment pleasure laughter or just triggering curiosity #eltchat |
| 3:40 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @Marisa_C: Don't forget the play factor. Materials which encourage learning through play are important! #ELTchat |
| 3:40 pm |
europeaantje: |
@europeaantje @DinaDobrou @englishraven hahaha pitch mats, as in : materials #ELTchat |
| 3:40 pm |
harrisonmike: |
RT @ALiCe__M: @englishraven I agree abt the need 4 "aimless" materials, those providing enjoyment pleasure laughter or just triggering curiosity #eltchat |
| 3:40 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
RT @Marisa_C: Don't forget the play factor. Materials which encourage learning through play are important! #ELTchat |
| 3:40 pm |
willycard: |
#eltchat when using coursebook it's worth trying to teach the unit backwards, esp. cos most of 'em are still old-fashioned P-P-P |
| 3:40 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @Marisa_C: Don't forget the play factor. Materials which encourage learning through play are important! #ELTchat |
| 3:40 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Fuertesun Really? Must reread it after #ELTChat lol |
| 3:40 pm |
Marisa_C: |
too much ponderosity and seriousness can demotivate - well hmmm... not all nationalitles i guesss :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:41 pm |
bamarcia: |
RT @Marisa_C: Don't forget the play factor. Materials which encourage learning through play are important! #ELTchat |
| 3:41 pm |
englishraven: |
Another of my principles: experiment with and pay attention to layout, fonts, etc. They can be really important. #ELTChat |
| 3:41 pm |
europeaantje: |
#ELTchat today is like being in one of my classes: bits n pieces flying everywhere LOL |
| 3:41 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my principles: experiment with and pay attention to layout, fonts, etc. They can be really important. #ELTChat |
| 3:41 pm |
miladakrajewska: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my principles: experiment with and pay attention to layout, fonts, etc. They can be really important. #ELTChat |
| 3:41 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @willycard: #eltchat when using coursebook it's worth trying to teach the unit backwards, esp. cos most of 'em are still old-fashioned P-P-P |
| 3:41 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my principles: experiment with and pay attention to layout, fonts, etc. They can be really important. #ELTChat |
| 3:41 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@Marisa_C PLAY - ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!! my stds are sooo happy when they see me with a ball or board game :P -mainly adult stds :) #ELTchat |
| 3:41 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my principles: experiment with & pay attention 2 layout, etc. They can be really important. #ELTChat <yes |
| 3:41 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@willycard So create materials which follow a test-teach -test approach? #eltchat |
| 3:42 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @Marisa_C: too much ponderosity and seriousness can demotivate - well hmmm... not all nationalitles i guesss :-) #ELTchat |
| 3:42 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @Marisa_C Don't forget play factor. Materials which encourage learning through play r important! #ELTchat > especially 4 Young Learners |
| 3:42 pm |
englishraven: |
@willycard Right! Going through a unit in reverse, reverses the PPP and creates a more task-based/deep end approach. #ELTChat |
| 3:42 pm |
esolcourses: |
@englishraven good point about fonts... I always use large fonts for beginners 16pt + - makes infor easier to pick out #ELTChat |
| 3:42 pm |
WestYorksESOL: |
RT @englishraven: Another of my hugely important principles: If it looks/feels boring to/for YOU, probably shouldn't go into the classroom... #ELTChat |
| 3:42 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cecilialcoelho Thanks Cecilia - only 14 behind now!! #ELTChat so catching up |
| 3:42 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@farflungstar Totally agree. ESP using art & images. Often words get in the way of language learning and u need 2 find a diff route #eltchat |
| 3:42 pm |
SueannaN: |
@willycard Use Marisa's principles for coursebooks. She has good ideas #eltchat |
| 3:42 pm |
bamarcia: |
@willycard #eltchat when using coursebook it's worth trying to teach the unit backwards > agree! I do it too!!! |
| 3:42 pm |
hoprea: |
Trying to follow #eltchat, but I guess I'll only be back for the evening discussion. |
| 3:42 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @esolcourses: @englishraven good point about fonts... I always use large fonts for beginners 16pt + - makes infor easier to pick out #ELTChat |
| 3:42 pm |
farflungstar: |
@eshwaranv #ELTChat - mmappng's great but I'm keen try learning through the use of creating art, vocab etc can be taught from that... |
| 3:42 pm |
fguarany: |
@willycard lurking on yr #ELTchat. Tks for Mallows' article. Very thought provoking. |
| 3:43 pm |
seburnt: |
@willycard Cool idea. Must encourage some guided discovery by doing so. Of course, that's always good. #ELTchat |
| 3:43 pm |
Celinejr: |
and activities that involve students to take responsibility and organize and interact with others. #ELTChat |
| 3:43 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @SueAnnan: @willycard Use Marisa's principles for coursebooks. She has good ideas #eltchat > I do? :-) |
| 3:43 pm |
europeaantje: |
another principle of mine: students have brains & will seek meaning but i need to help them find it #eltchat |
| 3:43 pm |
alanmtait: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: @Marisa_C PLAY - ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!! my stds are sooo happy when they see me with a ball or board game :P -mainly adult stds :) #ELTchat |
| 3:43 pm |
englishraven: |
@hoprea Yep, you'll need to jump in that Ferrari to catch up with us at this point... :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:43 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Agree @Marisa_C Materials which lend some zip to your lessons are very useful #eltchat |
| 3:43 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@europeaantje the meaning or the brain? please clarify... #eltchat |
| 3:43 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @europeaantje: another principle of mine: students have brains & will seek meaning but i need to help them find it #eltchat |
| 3:43 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Celinejr: and activities that involve students to take responsibility and organize and interact with others. #ELTChat |
| 3:44 pm |
willycard: |
@Marisa_C that's an alternative I like. calling it task-teach-task also makes it more interesting : ) #ELTchat |
| 3:44 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Marisa_C the brain seeks meaning everywhere, always #eltchat |
| 3:44 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
RT @Celinejr: and activities that involve students to take responsibility and organize and interact with others. #ELTChat |
| 3:44 pm |
farflungstar: |
@harrisonmike #ELTChat - painting and then teaching the language to express it is a great way I think - an image paints a thousand words.... |
| 3:44 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @fguarany @willycard lurking on yr #ELTchat. Tks for Mallows' article. Very thought provoking.> Yep will read it later |
| 3:44 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Marisa_C oh: help them find the meaning, haha #eltchat |
| 3:44 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@europeaantje no matter what WE call stuff it's the big boys that get the fame and fortune :-D #eltchat |
| 3:44 pm |
englishraven: |
My final principle (for tonight, anyway)... Never more than one page of material per lesson, with blank page on back... #ELTChat |
| 3:44 pm |
SueannaN: |
@Marisa_C need link to your presentation :-) #eltchat |
| 3:44 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@farflungstar I use mind mapping to combat time constraints. It'll be great for sts to express themselves via art. #eltchat |
| 3:45 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @englishraven: My final principle (for tonight, anyway)... Never more than one page of material per lesson, with blank page on back... #ELTChat |
| 3:45 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @englishraven: My final principle .. Never more than one page of material per lesson, with blank page on back... #ELTChat <good idea! |
| 3:45 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @seburnt: @willycard Cool idea. Must encourage some guided discovery by doing so. Of course, that's always good. #ELTchat |
| 3:45 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @Celinejr: and activities that involve students to take responsibility and organize and interact with others. #ELTChat |
| 3:45 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @englishraven: My final principle (for tonight, anyway)... Never more than one page of material per lesson, with blank page on back... #ELTChat |
| 3:45 pm |
willycard: |
I know, her workshop in tesolfr was v. good !RT @SueAnnan: @willycard Use Marisa's principles for coursebooks. She has good ideas #eltchat |
| 3:45 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Marisa_C it´s the wording & presentation make the difference: 140 characters don´t publish & market well :-) #eltchat |
| 3:46 pm |
englishraven: |
Resist urge to always hunt for an use others' materials. Designing and using your own is a crucial path to teacher development. #ELTChat |
| 3:46 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @englishraven: My final principle (for tonight, anyway)... Never more than one page of material per lesson, with blank page on back... #ELTChat |
| 3:46 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
@englishraven So as not to overwhelm the sts? #ELTchat |
| 3:46 pm |
bamarcia: |
@vbenevolofranca @Marisa_C Don't forget play factor. Materials which encourage learning through play r important! #ELTchat > So true!!! |
| 3:46 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@SueAnnan Presentation http://bit.ly/bExj4V and PK http://youtu.be/Q-wtFJFEVB4 #eltchat |
| 3:47 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @willycard: I know, her workshop in tesolfr was v. good !RT @SueAnnan: @willycard Use Marisa's principles for coursebooks. She has good ideas #eltchat |
| 3:47 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
RT @englishraven: Resist urge to always hunt for an use others' materials. Designing and using your own is a crucial path to teacher development. #ELTChat |
| 3:47 pm |
englishraven: |
@DinaDobrou So as to not overwhelm the lesson :-) Space for teacher AND students to add, shape the lesson. #ELTChat |
| 3:47 pm |
fguarany: |
RT @englishraven: Resist urge to always hunt for an use others' materials. Designing and using your own is a crucial path to teacher development. #ELTChat |
| 3:47 pm |
esolcourses: |
Adding images to text can help convey meaning for lower level s's - for example: http://bit.ly/h8oiLh&http://bit.ly/dO4U4e #ELTChat |
| 3:47 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan Presentation http://bit.ly/bExj4V and PK http://youtu.be/Q-wtFJFEVB4 #eltchat |
| 3:47 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: Designing and using your own is a crucial path to teacher development. #ELTChat |
| 3:47 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@bamarcia "Meaningful" play and not for the sake of introducing it. #eltchat |
| 3:47 pm |
gret: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @englishraven: Designing and using your own is a crucial path to teacher development. #ELTChat |
| 3:47 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Authentic materials I usually find more stimulating for students, but they're not always the best fit for all lessons #eltchat |
| 3:47 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: Resist urge to always hunt for an use others' materials. . #ELTChat |
| 3:47 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @esolcourses: Adding images to text can help convey meaning for lower level s's - for example:http://bit.ly/h8oiLh & http://bit.ly/dO4U4e #ELTChat |
| 3:48 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@englishraven Absolutely spot-on! Using own materials can be liberating and very special for the students eg created just for them #ELTChat |
| 3:48 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: Resist urge to always hunt for an use others' materials. Designing and using your own is a crucial path to teacher development. #ELTChat |
| 3:48 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@englishraven hey amazing ideas...it's great you made it to #ELTchat today :) |
| 3:48 pm |
cybraryman1: |
Visual Spatial Learners http://cybraryman.com/visualspatiallearners.html #eltchat |
| 3:48 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @englishraven Resist urge 2 always hunt 4 an use others' materials. Designing & using own is crucial path 2 TD. #ELTChat> too true! |
| 3:48 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: @englishraven hey amazing ideas...it's great you made it to #ELTchat today :)- agree! |
| 3:48 pm |
bamarcia: |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan Presentation http://bit.ly/bExj4V and PK http://youtu.be/Q-wtFJFEVB4 #eltchat > tnx 4 the links, Marisa! ;) |
| 3:48 pm |
rliberni: |
@bcnpaul1 done that gr8 stuffed goose tonight! #eltchat |
| 3:48 pm |
farflungstar: |
#ELTChat - coursebooks tend to be dry and irrelevant for many ss - either their act's based on own their life or an escape from it helps... |
| 3:48 pm |
gret: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: @englishraven hey amazing ideas...it's great you made it to #ELTchat today :) --> Love #ELTChat! |
| 3:48 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @cybraryman1: Visual Spatial Learners http://cybraryman.com/visualspatiallearners.html #eltchat |
| 3:48 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven agree fully! Reflect on why your material DIDN"T work - learn the lessons that failure gives you as a gift #ELTChat |
| 3:48 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @harrisonmike: Authentic materials I usually find more stimulating for students, but they're not always the best fit for all lessons #eltchat |
| 3:48 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @englishraven: Resist urge to always hunt for an use others' materials. . #ELTChat |
| 3:49 pm |
gret: |
RT @Marisa_C: @englishraven agree fully! Reflect on why your material DIDN"T work - learn the lessons that failure gives you as a gift #ELTChat |
| 3:49 pm |
rliberni: |
sorry just dropped @shellterrell off at station & stuffed my goose!! #eltchat |
| 3:49 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@harrisonmike yes, but we can adapt them a bit or use just the part of them...or use them in our materials (news,videos,songs...) #ELTchat |
| 3:49 pm |
englishraven: |
Just remembered I did a plenary on this topic a few years ago...@ddeubel was there, too! #ELTChat |
| 3:49 pm |
padgets: |
RT @cybraryman1: Visual Spatial Learners http://cybraryman.com/visualspatiallearners.html #eltchat |
| 3:49 pm |
rliberni: |
We've been here f2f but also sharing tech ideas and sites #eltchat |
| 3:50 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@rliberni That's fantastic. #eltchat |
| 3:50 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @bamarcia: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Presentation http://bit.ly/bExj4V and PK http://youtu.be/Q-wtFJFEVB4 #eltchat > tnx 4 the links, Marisa! ;) |
| 3:50 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
@rliberni @shellterrell Sniff to the 1st, yum to the 2nd..;) #ELTchat |
| 3:50 pm |
esolcourses: |
@harrisonmike - agree. Think it's important to make sure authentic materials fit the task, & learning aims #ELTChat |
| 3:50 pm |
alanmtait: |
Any other fans of just a piece of realia as material? (Plus maybe a couple of ideas in yr head.... #ELTChat |
| 3:50 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@rliberni sounds nice... hope the duck's good #eltchat |
| 3:51 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @esolcourses: @harrisonmike - agree. Think it's important to make sure authentic materials fit the task, & learning aims #ELTChat |
| 3:51 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @alanmtait: Any other fans of just a piece of realia as material? (Plus maybe a couple of ideas in yr head.... #ELTChat ] Yep. |
| 3:51 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@esolcourses And sometimes they are just too taxing for the learners #eltchat |
| 3:51 pm |
rliberni: |
@Fuertesun thanks we're having a 12th night party!#eltchat |
| 3:51 pm |
gret: |
@eshwaranv @SueAnnan @englishraven Sounds like a great EVO session. I was planning to do Webheads in Action... Might try both #ELTChat |
| 3:51 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @alanmtait: Any other fans of just a piece of realia as material? (Plus maybe a couple of ideas in yr head.... #ELTChat ] Yep. |
| 3:51 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven I try to stick to one page Jason, but have to admit I sometimes go over that... never more than 2 though!!! #ELTChat |
| 3:51 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @alanmtait: Any other fans of just a piece of realia as material? .. #ELTChat ] Yep. Also mystery objects are gd |
| 3:51 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @bamarcia: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Presentation http://bit.ly/bExj4V and PK http://youtu.be/Q-wtFJFEVB4 #eltchat > tnx 4 the links, Marisa! ;) |
| 3:52 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@rliberni #ELTChat Sounds like you've had a fab time - goose sounds good! |
| 3:52 pm |
englishraven: |
@Marisa_C A teacher's materials over time are like a map or diary of their teaching soul... (waxing poetic here!) #ELTChat |
| 3:52 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@alanmtait Yeah. Great to do travel stuff by bringing in old train tickets or an Xmas pudding #eltchat |
| 3:52 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C A teacher's materials over time are like a map or diary of their teaching soul... (waxing poetic here!) #ELTChat |
| 3:52 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C A teacher's materials over time are like a map or diary of their teaching soul... #ELTChat <and their TD! |
| 3:52 pm |
cybraryman1: |
@rliberni @shellterrell Hope you took a picture together #eltchat |
| 3:52 pm |
rliberni: |
@janetbianchini fingers crossed:-) #eltchat |
| 3:52 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven you poet you!!! #ELTchat - I don't agree with the one-page thingie though - I tend to chuck out a lot so.... |
| 3:52 pm |
gret: |
RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C A teacher's materials over time are like a map or diary of their teaching soul... (waxing poetic here!) #ELTChat |
| 3:53 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@alanmtait Should qualify that - the Xmas pud isn't for travel stuff, but you knew that right... #eltchat |
| 3:53 pm |
esolcourses: |
@harrisonmike yes - agree it can be hard to find authentic mats that are a good fit for the learner group you are teaching #ELTChat |
| 3:53 pm |
englishraven: |
@cecilialcoelho Ooooh, two pages.... oooh, spose we can let you off with the occasional naughtiness... :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:53 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@harrisonmike @esolcourses i remember my uni teacher told me "we shouldn't simplify authentic mats but the tasks we give with them" #ELTchat |
| 3:53 pm |
rliberni: |
@cybraryman1 we did I'm sure Shelly with tweet #eltchat |
| 3:53 pm |
europeaantje: |
@englishraven @cecilialcoelho as long as they´re both blank on the back! #ELTChat |
| 3:54 pm |
Teacher_in_SA: |
RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C A teacher's materials over time are like a map or diary of their teaching soul... (waxing poetic here!) #ELTChat |
| 3:54 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven Thank you Mr. Raven!!! Would hate to lose yr respect coz of that ;-) I can get carried away #ELTChat |
| 3:54 pm |
rliberni: |
@vladkaslniecko I uses almost all authentic mats and then work hard on the tasks to give the students full benefit. #eltchat |
| 3:54 pm |
SueannaN: |
I've got a feely-bag and a collection of weird gadgets too #ELTChat |
| 3:54 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Deep;o)RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C A teacher's mats over time r like a map or diary of their teaching soul... (waxing poetic here!) #ELTChat |
| 3:54 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@esolcourses I agree realia can work wonders in a class - very authentic language always emerges naturally eg restaurant menus #eltchat |
| 3:54 pm |
englishraven: |
@europeaantje @cecilialcoelho @Marisa_C If you need a stapler, you're overdoing it. :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:54 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@harrisonmike @esolcourses and you can use authentic materials also with elementary stds...just think of apppropriate task :) #ELTchat |
| 3:54 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@europeaantje @englishraven Lots of blanks pages... check! #ELTChat |
| 3:54 pm |
cybraryman1: |
Tech Integration for ELL http://cybraryman.com/elltech.html #eltchat |
| 3:55 pm |
gret: |
RT @cybraryman1: Tech Integration for ELL http://cybraryman.com/elltech.html #eltchat |
| 3:55 pm |
rliberni: |
@esolcourses I would use aithentiv mats at lower levels with a very simple task e.g. how many ppl in this convo #eltchat |
| 3:55 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @vladkaslniecko: @harrisonmike @esolcourses i remember my uni teacher told me "we shouldn't simplify authentic mats but the tasks we give with them" #ELTchat |
| 3:55 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @rliberni: @vladkaslniecko I uses almost all authentic mats and then work hard on the tasks to give the students full benefit. #eltchat |
| 3:55 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @janetbianchini: @esolcourses I agree realia can work wonders in a class - very authentic language always emerges naturally eg restaurant menus #eltchat |
| 3:55 pm |
willycard: |
#eltchat A shameless plug here: http://scr.bi/gUdXcN <-Article I wrote on self-assessment. Some tools to incorporate in your mat.dev. maybe |
| 3:55 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @willycard: #eltchat A shameless plug here: http://scr.bi/gUdXcN <-Article I wrote on self-assessment. Some tools to incorporate in your mat.dev. maybe |
| 3:55 pm |
rliberni: |
The longer the piece the fewer the questions and vice versa, ot split them material up into sections #eltchat |
| 3:56 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@englishraven @europeaantje @Marisa_C #ELTChat Well, I use a stapler w/ 2 pgs... but I got cute colored staples... Make it any better? ;-P |
| 3:56 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Ok folks - last 5 or 6 minutes of this chat - What is the ONE major principle which you liked from our chat today? #ELTchat |
| 3:56 pm |
rliberni: |
RT @gret: RT @cybraryman1: Tech Integration for ELL http://cybraryman.com/elltech.html #eltchat |
| 3:56 pm |
DinaDobrou: |
RT @Marisa_C: Ok folks - last 5 or 6 minutes of this chat - What is the ONE major principle which you liked from our chat today? #ELTchat |
| 3:56 pm |
esolcourses: |
Apols... been called away & GTG. Thanks for another Gr8 #ELTChat! Catch you later! |
| 3:56 pm |
bamarcia: |
@europeaantje @englishraven @cecilialcoelho My ws are never blank at the back! Will have to stop saving paper? LOL #ELTChat |
| 3:56 pm |
englishraven: |
@vladkaslniecko @Fuertesun @gret Great that you ladies made it here too! #ELTChat |
| 3:56 pm |
alanmtait: |
What favourite realia have youse all got? #ELTChat |
| 3:56 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Please please please consider your students may have difficulties. Dyslexia, dyscalculia etc, we can help with our materials #eltchat |
| 3:56 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @alanmtait: Any other fans of just a piece of realia as material? (Plus maybe a couple of ideas in yr head.... #ELTChat |
| 3:56 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@esolcourses @harrisonmike But does doing some (moderate, sensible) adapting to authentic materials make it non-authentic??? #ELTChat |
| 3:56 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@harrisonmike i remember my German teacher used an article from magazine but we didn't read it...#ELTchat |
| 3:57 pm |
europeaantje: |
@alanmtait maps #ELTChat |
| 3:57 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@englishraven had to drag myself away from the sun! #ELTChat |
| 3:57 pm |
farflungstar: |
#ELTChat - I think it helps if you have lived in a non native English speaking country and worn the other boot so to speak |
| 3:57 pm |
englishraven: |
@alanmtait I'm a big fan of having the Ls bring in their own realia... Nothing like a good surprise! #ELTChat |
| 3:57 pm |
eshwaranv: |
RT @farflungstar: #ELTChat - I think it helps if you have lived in a non native English speaking country and worn the other boot so to speak |
| 3:57 pm |
surreallyno: |
My fav. principle: Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler! (I recall Einstein) #ELTchat |
| 3:57 pm |
miladakrajewska: |
RT @surreallyno: My fav. principle: Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler! (I recall Einstein) #ELTchat |
| 3:57 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
@harrisonmike ...we were supposed to find the colours there...in the sentences, joining the words and so on..:) #ELTchat |
| 3:57 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @surreallyno: My fav. principle: Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler! (I recall Einstein) #ELTchat |
| 3:57 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Use coloured paper (light blue or yellow) or use a coloured plastic wallet to help those with reading difficulties #eltchat |
| 3:58 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @harrisonmike: Use coloured paper (light blue or yellow) or use a coloured plastic wallet to help those with reading difficulties #eltchat |
| 3:58 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @DinaDobrou: Ok folks - last 5 or 6 minutes of this chat - What is the ONE major principle which you liked from our chat today? #ELTchat |
| 3:58 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @surreallyno: My fav. principle: Make everything as simple as possible but not simpler! (I recall Einstein) #ELTchat |
| 3:58 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C keep em short, visual, substance and not... #ELTchat |
| 3:58 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @farflungstar: #ELTChat - I think it helps if you have lived in a non native English speaking country and worn the other boot so to speak |
| 3:58 pm |
rliberni: |
My site (Gapfillers http://bit.ly/VSWv) is almost all authentic materials #eltchat |
| 3:58 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@janetbianchini @rliberni We've been having a fab time indeed Janet, & lots of teaching reflections / sharing thanks to Berni! :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:58 pm |
europeaantje: |
@Marisa_C @DinaDobrou "make materials suit your learners´ needs" #ELTchat |
| 3:58 pm |
englishraven: |
@Fuertesun Erm... I had to drag myself away from the moon... :-) #ELTChat |
| 3:58 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
Major principle for me: why do I need this material? What do I hope students will gain from material use. #ELTchat |
| 3:59 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @harrisonmike: Please please please consider your students may have difficulties. Dyslexia, dyscalculia etc, we can help with our materials #eltchat |
| 3:59 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat @Marisa_C Favourite principle - SS come first when creating materials < if they're not interested, ur wasting time! |
| 3:59 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
RT @rliberni: @esolcourses I would use aithentiv mats at lower levels with a very simple task e.g. how many ppl in this convo #eltchat |
| 3:59 pm |
eshwaranv: |
@Marisa_C Learner-centric materials with meaningful assessments #eltchat |
| 3:59 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@englishraven thanks I liked your tweets... #ELTChat |
| 3:59 pm |
rliberni: |
@englishraven we did a vocab ex yesterdaywith shampoo & shower gel bottles - got a lot of gr8 ideas for using these #eltchat |
| 3:59 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @vbenevolofranca: Major principle for me: why do I need this material? What do I hope students will gain from material use. #ELTchat |
| 3:59 pm |
janetbianchini: |
keep things simple, clear, visual and relevant to ss' needs #eltchat |
| 3:59 pm |
gret: |
@cecilialcoelho @janetbianchini @rliberni Sounds wonderful! Awesome people and wonderful learning! Couldn't be any better! #eltchat |
| 3:59 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: keep things simple, clear, visual and relevant to ss' needs #eltchat > grt principle |
| 3:59 pm |
gret: |
RT @janetbianchini: keep things simple, clear, visual and relevant to ss' needs #eltchat |
| 3:59 pm |
surreallyno: |
Thank you for this session! Are these tweets archived somewhere? #ELTchat (missed some of them) |
| 3:59 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @rliberni: My site (Gapfillers http://bit.ly/VSWv) is almost all authentic materials #eltchat - just started using it thx |
| 3:59 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @rliberni My site (Gapfillers http://bit.ly/VSWv) is almost all authentic materials #eltchat - great resources!! |
| 4:00 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@harrisonmike @esolcourses @vladkaslniecko @rliberni Agree...simplifying the task better than adapting the mat itself #ELTChat |
| 4:00 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @eshwaranv: @Marisa_C Learner-centric materials with meaningful assessments #eltchat > like that one keeps me off centre stage |
| 4:00 pm |
englishraven: |
@bamarcia Just personally, I've found blank backs allow me to cater to curve balls and a direction that learners can choose #ELTChat |
| 4:00 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @janetbianchini: keep things simple, clear, visual and relevant to ss' needs #eltchat |
| 4:00 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cecilialcoelho That's wonderful to hear! #eltchat |
| 4:00 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: @harrisonmike @esolcourses @vladkaslniecko @rliberni Agree...simplifying the task better than adapting the mat itself #ELTChat |
| 4:01 pm |
harrisonmike: |
My principle: mix and match, try out a lot of things, see which work and which don't and REFLECT #eltchat |
| 4:01 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@Marisa_C Keep the simple and meaningful (can it b 2 connected principles?) #ELTchat |
| 4:01 pm |
englishraven: |
@ddeubel Interesting, I think my views have changed/progressed a lot since then, but others haven't #ELTChat |
| 4:01 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @cecilialcoelho:@vladkaslniecko @rliberni Agree...simplifying the task better than adapting the mat itself #ELTChat |
| 4:01 pm |
alanmtait: |
RT @rliberni: @englishraven we did a vocab ex yesterdaywith shampoo & shower gel bottles - got a lot of gr8 ideas for using these #eltchat |
| 4:01 pm |
willycard: |
Morpheus(The Matrix): I?m trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You?re the one who must walk through it? #ELTchat |
| 4:01 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @cecilialcoelho: @Marisa_C Keep the simple and meaningful (can it b 2 connected principles?) #ELTchat > yes why not? |
| 4:01 pm |
vladkaslniecko: |
RT @harrisonmike: My principle: mix and match, try out a lot of things, see which work and which don't and REFLECT #eltchat |
| 4:01 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C Yes grade task not material #ELTChat |
| 4:01 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @eshwaranv: @Marisa_C Learner-centric materials with meaningful assessments #eltchat > like that one keeps me off centre stage |
| 4:01 pm |
europeaantje: |
@alanmtait real ones. picked on my (former) travels. my fave map o/t world is falling to bits. sts love it! #EltChat |
| 4:01 pm |
englishraven: |
@DinaDobrou As in, the 'mystery objects' from my site? #ELTChat |
| 4:02 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@willycard deep and profound #ELTchat |
| 4:02 pm |
bamarcia: |
@rliberni My site (Gapfillers http://bit.ly/VSWv) is almost all authentic materials #eltchat > Had a glance & loved it! Will check later. ;) |
| 4:02 pm |
fguarany: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @vbenevolofranca: Major principle for me: why do I need this material? What do I hope students will gain from material use. #ELTchat |
| 4:02 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @bamarcia: @rliberni My site (Gapfillers http://bit.ly/VSWv) is almost all authentic materials #eltchat > Had a glance & loved it! Will check later. ;) |
| 4:02 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
@rliberni @englishraven I loved the shampoo / moisturizer bottles activity :-) #eltchat |
| 4:02 pm |
rliberni: |
@Marisa_C yea with a beginner grp u could have a v short piece with one simple question #eltchat |
| 4:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Well we have come to the end of this great #ELTchat! Thank you all for a great stimulating convo - now I know why I missed it last week! |
| 4:03 pm |
eshwaranv: |
Thanks a lot for the great convo on #eltchat. See you all soon. |
| 4:03 pm |
vbenevolofranca: |
RT @harrisonmike: My principle: mix and match, try out a lot of things, see which work and which don't and REFLECT #eltchat |
| 4:03 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat thanks for the great ideas this week! What's tonight's topic? |
| 4:03 pm |
cecilialcoelho: |
RT @willycard: Morpheus(The Matrix): I?m trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You?re the one who must walk through it? #ELTchat |
| 4:03 pm |
harrisonmike: |
RT @cecilialcoelho @harrisonmike @esolcourses @vladkaslniecko @rliberni Agree.simplifying task better thn adapting the mat itself #ELTChat |
| 4:03 pm |
englishraven: |
That's curtains for this session folks. Thanks for a great #ELTChat! Worth staying up for! |
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