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Addressing taboo subjects in the ELT classroom

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Transcript from October 6, 2010

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October 6, 2010
2:00 pm janetbianchini: Just come out of very sunny garden early esp. for #ELTchat
2:00 pm Marisa_C: Can we begin perhaps by defining which subjects we consider to be taboo? C #ELTchat
2:00 pm ESLlibrary: RT @gret New posts on my students' blogs! Please leave comments! http://bit.ly/c65eOz#comments4kids #edchat #elemchat #ELTChat -Done!
2:01 pm cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat talking about taboo subjects in the classroom
2:01 pm Marisa_C: #ELTchat for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to the #ELTchat
2:01 pm eshwaranv: At the company dinner. Will be missing #eltchat :(
2:01 pm englishraven: RT @Marisa_C: Can we begin perhaps by defining which subjects we consider to be taboo? C #ELTchat -> I assume this could vary by context?
2:02 pm efl101: politic, religion, sex? all taboo? #eltchat
2:02 pm Marisa_C: @eshwaranv :-( #eltchat
2:02 pm janetbianchini: Overtly sexual content? #ELTchat I wouldn't feel comfortable dealing with that.
2:02 pm OUPELTGlobal: What do you count as a taboo subject? Swear words, for example? #ELTchat
2:02 pm esolcourses: RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat talking about taboo subjects in the classroom
2:02 pm cerirhiannon: #ELTchat maybe not what we consider taboo, but what had traditionally been considered taboo ? the old PARSNIP acronym #ELTchat
2:02 pm Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C when I taught in Greece my contract forbade me to talk about religion and politics so to my employers they were taboo #ELTchat
2:02 pm Marisa_C: RT @efl101: politic, religion, sex? all taboo? #eltchat | What do you all think? Drugs abuse? Violence?
2:03 pm janetbianchini: #ELTchat for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to the #ELTchat
2:03 pm Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: when I taught in Greece my contract forbade me to talk about religion and politics 2my employers they were taboo #ELTchat
2:03 pm englishraven: RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C when I taught in Greece my contract forbade me to talk about religion and politics so to my employers they were taboo #ELTchat
2:03 pm efl101: do we (teachers) define taboo or do the students have a say? #eltchat
2:03 pm englishraven: RT @cerirhiannon: #ELTchat maybe not what we consider taboo, but what had traditionally been considered taboo ? the old PARSNIP acronym #ELTchat
2:03 pm Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden and did you disagree or not? #ELTchat
2:03 pm cerirhiannon: sexual orientation, lying, kids out of marriage .... all been *tabooed* at some time or other in contexts I was working in #ELTchat
2:04 pm JoeMcVeigh: What subjects qualify as taboo where you teach? #ELTchat
2:04 pm Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon explain PARSNIP to the uninitiated pls? #ELTchat #ELTchat
2:04 pm esolcourses: Are we talking about taboos here, or controversial issues? not sure they are one and the same thing, myself #eltchat
2:04 pm englishraven: Let's not forget sexuality... A real big one on the taboo scales in so many contexts. #ELTChat
2:04 pm cerirhiannon: alcohol, darwinism, ghosts .... in a more specific context #ELTchat
2:04 pm janetbianchini: Politics, religion maybe ok in the proper context eg in topical news of the day / front pages of papers etc -can't be avoided! #ELTchat
2:04 pm Marisa_C: RT @cerirhiannon: sexual orientation, lying, kids out of marriage all *tabooed* at some time or other in contexts I was working in #ELTchat
2:05 pm esolcourses: RT @JoeMcVeigh: What subjects qualify as taboo where you teach? ] good point... does vary between different cultures #ELTchat
2:05 pm Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Gay rights? #ELTchat
2:05 pm michelfranklin: RT @Marisa_C politic, religion, sex? all taboo? #eltchat | What do you all think? Drugs abuse? Violence?
2:05 pm Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C It was my 1st job so was careful though found the sts wanted to talk about them so it was unavoidable - keep forgetting #ELTchat
2:06 pm englishraven: When I was teaching in Korea, homosexuality in particular was a huge "no go" area. #ELTChat
2:06 pm janetbianchini: In former GDR I was forbidden to discuss politics, religion and royalty. Not much left over to teach then, lol #ELTchat
2:06 pm cerirhiannon: PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (such as communism or atheism), and pork see http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat
2:06 pm Shaunwilden: RT @OUPELTGlobal: What do you count as a taboo subject? Swear words, for example? #ELTchatSome of my fave lessons are on swear words :-)
2:06 pm cybraryman1: You have to be careful not to promote generalizations or stereotypes that could upset or insult anyone #eltchat
2:07 pm Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden #ELTchat - recall similar experiences - had a student who was an expert - assigned him teaching rights outside class :-)
2:07 pm englishraven: RT @cerirhiannon: PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (such as communism or atheism), and pork see http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat
2:07 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Gay rights? ] & even women's rights, in some cultures? #ELTchat
2:07 pm Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @OUPELTGlobal: #ELTchat Some of my fave lessons are on swear words :-) - I know people who have lost jobs tho
2:07 pm cerirhiannon: RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Gay rights? ] & even women's rights, in some cultures? #ELTchat
2:07 pm Marisa_C: RT @cybraryman1: You have to be careful not to promote generalizations or stereotypes that could upset or insult anyone #eltchat
2:08 pm englishraven: RT @janetbianchini: In former GDR I was forbidden to discuss politics, religion and royalty. Not much left over to teach then, lol #ELTchat
2:08 pm janetbianchini: RT @cerirhiannon PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (such as communism or atheism), #ELTchat
2:08 pm Marisa_C: RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Gay rights? ] & even women's rights, in some cultures? #ELTchat | Hear hear!
2:08 pm avealmec: If Language is culture, its so difficult no to talk about politics in class...even though we have to avoid it here in #Venezuela #ELTchat
2:08 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: RT @cybraryman1: You have to be careful not to promote generalizations or stereotypes that could upset or insult anyone #eltchat
2:08 pm esolcourses: RT @cerirhiannon: PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (communism, atheism) & pork http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat
2:08 pm Marisa_C: RT @janetbianchini: In former GDR forbidden to discuss politics, religion and royalty. Not much left over to teach then, lol #ELTchat
2:09 pm efl101: @cybraryman1 does not promote = not discuss? #eltchat
2:09 pm Marisa_C: @janetbianchini So as @englishraven pointed out, depends on context - #ELTchat
2:10 pm englishraven: I think there's a difference... between what a teacher brings up in class, and what Ss choose to bring up. #ELTChat
2:10 pm InglesInteract: Would you consider talking about racism as a taboo too? #eltchat
2:10 pm cerirhiannon: #ELTchat I think it's often a question of sensitivity 2local culture, coupled w sensitivity 2indiv ss & making the most of closed doors ;)
2:10 pm harrisonmike: Will have to read up on #ELTchat after. Off to training about Citizenship and Controversial Issues. Bye!
2:10 pm Shaunwilden: Isnt there a book called taboo and issues on topics that is meant for ELT use, I seem to recall it always being in the staffroom? #ELTchat
2:10 pm ELTExperiences: I sometimes insert some taboo topics to encourage discussion and communication in class. #ELTchat
2:11 pm englishraven: RT @cerirhiannon: #ELTchat I think it's often a question of sensitivity 2local culture, coupled w sensitivity 2indiv ss & making the most of closed doors ;)
2:11 pm JoeMcVeigh: In US public schools separation of church and state makes religion usually taboo though integral to many students identities #ELTChat
2:11 pm janetbianchini: #eltchat Moderation in all things. If we are too afraid to voice "real topics" in class, then what happens when ss encounter them outside?
2:11 pm wmchamberlain: RT @gret: New posts on my students' blogs! Please leave them some comments! http://bit.ly/c65eOz#comments4kids #edchat #ntchat #elemchat #ELTChat
2:11 pm cerirhiannon: re PARSNIP - link is to @ThornburyScott 's post on T is for Taboo #ELTchat
2:11 pm Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden Greece hasn't changed all that much - and in frontistiria with younger learners no wonder #ELTchat
2:11 pm englishraven: RT @InglesInteract: Would you consider talking about racism as a taboo too? #eltchat -> Yes, in some places, this can be taboo as well.
2:11 pm Shaunwilden: RT @InglesInteract: Would you consider talking about racism as a taboo? #eltchat an interesting point - how teacher deal with overt racism
2:11 pm Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden Michael Swan's Practical English Usage has a section on this #ELTchat
2:11 pm ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book. http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat
2:12 pm gret: @Shaunwilden Yes, it;s written by MacAndrew and Martinez. Photocopiable lessons #ELTChat
2:12 pm Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden Not seen a dedicated book #ELTchat
2:12 pm janetbianchini: @Shaunwilden Yes, Taboos and Issues is a very good book. Have used it myself in the past.#eltchat
2:12 pm bruno_cesar82: @cybraryman1 hey man, when does the #eltchat take place? cheers!
2:12 pm ELTExperiences: @Shaunwilden check my previous tweet. #ELTchat
2:12 pm cybraryman1: @efl101 If it is brought up you should discuss but be careful with what you say #eltchat
2:13 pm Marisa_C: RT @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden Should it be the teacher teaching them? #eltchat | Or should it be left up to google skills?
2:13 pm englishraven: RT @ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book.http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat
2:13 pm janetbianchini: Rt @gret @Shaunwilden Yes, "Taboos and Issues" written by MacAndrew and Martinez. Photocopiable lessons #ELTChat
2:13 pm ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book. http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat -> plz check
2:13 pm efl101: @inglesinteract no. talking about it is good, dealing with racist views of sts = more difficult #eltchat
2:13 pm InglesInteract: @englishraven Yes, I agree here in Brazil one has to be careful about this issue #eltchat
2:13 pm Marisa_C: RT @janetbianchini: @Shaunwilden Yes, Taboos and Issues is a very good book. Have used it myself in the past.#eltchat Thx
2:13 pm OUPELTGlobal: @Marisa_C @ShaunWilden Sts are going 2 learn swear words at some point. Q is...shud it b the tchr tchng them or find out 4 thmslvs? #ELTchat
2:14 pm cybraryman1: @bruno_cesar82 #eltchat is happening now and then later today: http://bit.ly/bBcuWV
2:14 pm Marisa_C: RT @ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book.http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat | Surely for adults?
2:14 pm Shaunwilden: @OUPELTGlobal I think if the sts r going to an Eng speaking L1 they need to know e.g. the f word is such a commonly used word #ELTchat
2:14 pm cerirhiannon: RT @cybraryman1: @efl101 should discuss but be careful with what you say #eltchat > even if it comes from the Ss still need to tread softly
2:14 pm InglesInteract: RT @ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book.http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat -> plz check
2:14 pm janetbianchini: I recall doing "Addiction" from Taboos and Issues book http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat
2:15 pm ELTExperiences: But is taboos a good way to start sts speaking, in a way as the devils advocate? #ELTchat
2:15 pm englishraven: I think it is important to chart or frame discussions in advance as being 'about' something taboo, to contextualise it. #ELTChat
2:15 pm efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with the language? #eltchat
2:16 pm JoeMcVeigh: If discussing taboo topics must prepare carefully ? be sure students are respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat
2:16 pm Marisa_C: The problem with L2 learners using taboo language - e.g. swear words - is they don't know the exact impact on the L1 ear #ELTchat
2:16 pm Shaunwilden: RT @ELTExperiences: But is taboos a good way to start sts speaking, in a way as the devils advocate? #ELTchat
2:16 pm janetbianchini: @Marisa_C Yes, I would say for young adults +http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat
2:17 pm cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with lang? #eltchat>moderate & facilitate lang I'd say
2:17 pm englishraven: Key question: Deliberately avoiding taboo subjects = underpreparing our Ss for 'real world' out there where language is used? #ELTChat
2:17 pm esolcourses: @cerirhiannon: accept @ThornburyScott 's points - do wonder though how much demand there is for lessons on controversial issues #ELTchat
2:17 pm vickyloras: I'm on the train following #ELTChat a bit!
2:17 pm cerirhiannon: RT @JoeMcVeigh: If discussing taboo topics must prepare carefully ? be sure students are respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat
2:17 pm Marisa_C: RT @janetbianchini: @Marisa_C Yes, I would say for young adults +http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat
2:17 pm englishraven: RT @JoeMcVeigh: If discussing taboo topics must prepare carefully ? be sure students are respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat
2:17 pm Shaunwilden: RT @efl101: if st discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with the language? #eltchat gd? I find it hard not 2 give a view
2:18 pm OUPELTGlobal: @Shaunwilden Quite. We use an ave of 90 swear words a day and yet sts are rarely taught them. Surely sth so common shud b taught? #ELTchat
2:18 pm Marisa_C: RT @JoeMcVeigh: If discussing taboo topics prepare carefully ?students respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat
2:18 pm esolcourses: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help? #eltchat >moderate & facilitate lang I'd say
2:18 pm janetbianchini: Often students request taboo words because they hear them outside class (in UK), so is it teacher's duty to teach them? #ELTchat
2:18 pm InglesInteract: @efl101 I think even talking can be difficult #eltchat cuz some stds I mean teenagers can feel offended in class
2:18 pm SugarJo: #ELTchat tomorrow is the start of my "Gender Studies" content based class..very excited..it's where I always was...
2:18 pm ELTExperiences: @Marisa_C #ELTchat I remember in my first year of teaching some YLs told me to F-off. He didn't realise the appropriacy of it.
2:18 pm englishraven: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with lang? #eltchat >moderate & facilitate lang I'd say
2:18 pm vickyloras: RT @englishraven Key question:Deliberately avoiding taboo subjs= underpreparing our Ss 4'real world' out there where lang is used? #ELTChat
2:19 pm cerirhiannon: RT @esolcourses: wonder how much demand there is for lessons on controversial issues #ELTchat> sm Ss can feel very uncomfortable
2:19 pm Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal Schools must first have a policy to protect teachers' jobs - I know Ts who lost their #ELTchat
2:19 pm Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal theirs #ELTchat
2:19 pm OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini See our previous tweets #ELTchat
2:19 pm gret: RT @janetbianchini: Often students request taboo words because they hear them outside class (in UK), so is it teacher's duty to teach them? #ELTchat
2:19 pm englishraven: RT @OUPELTGlobal: @Shaunwilden Quite. We use an ave of 90 swear words a day and yet sts are rarely taught them. Surely sth so common shud b taught? #ELTchat
2:19 pm Marisa_C: RT @ELTExperiences: #ELTchat I remember in my first year of teaching some YLs told me to F-off. He didn't realise the appropriacy of it.
2:20 pm ELTExperiences: Is local\national crime a taboo subject to include in class? #ELTchat
2:20 pm Marisa_C: Most of the older methodology books speak against teaching taboo words #ELTchat
2:20 pm avealmec: Too true,there will be lack of authenticity and applicability of language @englishraven #ELTChat
2:20 pm ELTExperiences: RT @vickyloras: RT @englishraven Key question:Deliberately avoiding taboo subjs= underpreparing our Ss 4'real world' out there where lang is used? #ELTChat
2:20 pm affreshair: RT @OUPELTGlobal: @Shaunwilden Quite. We use an ave of 90 swear words a day and yet sts are rarely taught them. Surely sth so common shud b taught? #ELTchat
2:20 pm OUPELTGlobal: @Marisa_C Agreed. It requires a v open schl environment or a v brave tchr #ELTchat
2:20 pm ELTExperiences: RT @esolcourses: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help? #eltchat >moderate & facilitate lang I'd say
2:20 pm Marisa_C: RT @esolcourses: @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help? #eltchat>moderate & facilitate lang I'd say
2:20 pm efl101: @shaunwilden @cerirhiannon I often feel need 2 give my view too but sometimes fear unfair advantage (teacher status and lang.) #eltchat
2:21 pm janetbianchini: RT @JoeMcVeigh must prepare carefully -be sure students r respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat
2:21 pm vickyloras: Some of our best lessons w/Ss were around the film "Philadelphia" #ELTChat They responded and handled it very well.Learned a lot-me&them.
2:22 pm ELTExperiences: RT @vickyloras: Some of our best lessons w/Ss were around the film "Philadelphia" #ELTChat They responded and handled it very well.Learned a lot-me&them.
2:22 pm OUPELTGlobal: On topic of taboo words, Swan's Practical English Usage has a gr8 chapter on grammar of taboo words (Sorry 4 the plug!) #ELTchat
2:22 pm InglesInteract: @Marisa_C I'd try to moderate cuz depends on our view it can influence the stds's opinion #eltchat
2:22 pm englishraven: Interesting... how taboo bridges the two streams of language and culture, with sometimes uncomfortable ropes. #ELTChat
2:22 pm Marisa_C: @efl101 Good to open up the discussion to discussion topics other than swear words @esolcourses#eltchat
2:22 pm englishraven: RT @vickyloras: Some of our best lessons w/Ss were around the film "Philadelphia" #ELTChat They responded and handled it very well.Learned a lot-me&them.
2:22 pm janetbianchini: Rt @englishraven Key question:Deliberately avoiding taboo subjs=underpreparing our Ss 4'real world' out there where lang is used? #ELTChat
2:23 pm englishraven: RT @efl101: I often feel need 2 give my view too but sometimes fear unfair advantage (teacher status and lang.) #eltchat -> Good point.
2:23 pm ELTExperiences: RT @englishraven: Interesting... how taboo bridges the two streams of language and culture, with sometimes uncomfortable ropes. #ELTChat
2:23 pm Shaunwilden: @efl101 Agreed though I taught a lot of Bus Eng & think sts shd b aware when a view point may b cultural #eltchat
2:23 pm vickyloras: Rats!I have to get off the train-will switch on again soon #ELTChat
2:23 pm englishraven: @OUPELTGlobal Got it next to me on the desk! Shall take a gander... #ELTChat
2:24 pm JoeMcVeigh: . Text: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESL by Elizabeth Claire - caution: illustrated! http://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat
2:24 pm esolcourses: @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden agree, but if you do teach swear words, students need to be able to understand context, etc! #eltchat
2:24 pm Marisa_C: RT @englishraven: Interesting... how taboo bridges the two streams of language and culture, with sometimes uncomfortable ropes. #ELTChat
2:24 pm cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: @shaunwilden I often feel need 2 give my view too> can always intro new/minority views as "some people say ... #ELTchat
2:25 pm OUPELTGlobal: @esolcourses @ShaunWilden Yes, context and appropriateness! Perhaps cultural acceptability as well? #ELTchat
2:26 pm OUPELTGlobal: @englishraven Please share anything interesting you come across #ELTchat
2:26 pm gregqbear: I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat
2:26 pm janetbianchini: @OUPELTGlobal Thanks - I think if requested by ss, they could peer teach words(done this in the past), but teacher needs to monitor #eltchat
2:26 pm efl101: @marisa_c agree, 2 most angry classes I had = immigration and womens role (are syllabus topics) but shld I confront racism/sexism? #eltchat
2:27 pm englishraven: @OUPELTGlobal I don't think I can, to be honest... not in such esteemed company! #ELTChat
2:27 pm janetbianchini: Rt @OUPELTGlobal On topic of taboo words, Swan's Practical English Usage has a gr8 chapter on grammar of taboo words #ELTchat agree!
2:28 pm OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini If requested by ss, they could peer teach words but tchr needs to monitor > Monitor and moderate perhaps #eltchat
2:28 pm ELTExperiences: So sts appropriacy and class understanding are best for inserting taboo subjects in class? #ELTchatWho would teach swearing in class?
2:28 pm englishraven: Just glancing through the "taboo words" section of Swan's Practical English Usage right now. Pretty comprehensive and up front! #ELTChat
2:29 pm Shaunwilden: RT @gregqbear: I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat
2:29 pm efl101: @cerirhiannon 'some people say' ha, good one I think I'll use that ;-) #eltchat
2:29 pm OUPELTGlobal: @englishraven Haha. No, perhaps not :) #ELTchat
2:29 pm Marisa_C: @efl101 Can be a tricky situation for the teacher - agree #eltchat
2:29 pm OUPELTGlobal: RT @englishraven: Just glancing through the "taboo words" section of Swan's Practical English Usage right now. Pretty comprehensive and up front! #ELTChat
2:29 pm Marisa_C: @englishraven Yes, very good chapter #ELTChat
2:29 pm ELTExperiences: RT @englishraven: Just glancing through the "taboo words" section of Swan's Practical English Usage right now. Pretty comprehensive and up front! #ELTChat
2:30 pm englishraven: RT @gregqbear: I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat
2:30 pm esolcourses: @cerirhiannon some teachers can feel uncomfortable discussing taboo or controversial topics, as well - not an easy option #ELTchat
2:30 pm cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: @cerirhiannon 'some people say' ha, good one I think I'll use that ;-) #eltchat< of course, most Ss see right thru it ;)
2:30 pm Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat
2:31 pm esolcourses: @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden yes, culture can play a part - sometimes the teacher's background/culture is a factor, as well #ELTChat
2:31 pm OUPELTGlobal: RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat
2:31 pm cerirhiannon: RT @gregqbear: I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat
2:31 pm Shaunwilden: So what would we tell a new teacher in terms of dealing with taboo topics? #eltchat
2:31 pm englishraven: It's a hugely important skill for Ss to be able to handle taboo subjects with appropriate language and style, don't you think? #ELTChat
2:31 pm janetbianchini: @OUPELTGlobal Agree, monitor and lots of moderating 2 ensure nobody gets offended. I'd always ask whole class if they agree first.#ELTchat
2:31 pm efl101: @ELTExperiences 'Who would teach swearing in class?' I would as sts need it for my ESP classes #eltchat (bl**dy hash tag)
2:31 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat
2:31 pm gregqbear: Good time to teach elementary school kids. Rarely found taboo problems with them - usually didn't have enough L2 for discussion. #eltchat
2:32 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat
2:32 pm InglesInteract: @Marisa_C RTIn a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat >>> I agree!
2:32 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it imp for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat> yes, where poss
2:32 pm englishraven: @Shaunwilden I would say, create a respectful and open learning environment first. #ELTChat
2:32 pm ELTExperiences: @efl101 there is a whole list of swearwords in Swan's Practical English Usage. #ELTchat
2:32 pm Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon @esolcourses So, think this requires maturity and confidence and an unbiased stance #ELTchat
2:32 pm englishraven: RT @Shaunwilden: So what would we tell a new teacher in terms of dealing with taboo topics? #eltchat
2:32 pm efl101: @Marisa_C I guess there is a difference between teaching about something and teaching that something is right/wrong? #eltchat
2:32 pm ELTExperiences: RT @efl101: @ELTExperiences 'Who would teach swearing in class?' I would as sts need it for my ESP classes #eltchat (bl**dy hash tag)
2:33 pm gret: @Marisa_C Yes. It's essential. Teachers must be aware which subjects are taboo, Esp in multiculatural classes. #ELTChat
2:33 pm JoeMcVeigh: I sometimes teach use of taboo words for emphasis in speech acts: ?Close the #$(%## door.? Work up from milder terms. #ELTChat
2:33 pm InglesInteract: @efl101 I try not to be teach swearing, but some words as presented in movies, I would #eltchat, the stds want to know somehow
2:33 pm Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden You read my mind - yes, what? I would say avoid them for the time being #eltchat
2:33 pm englishraven: @Shaunwilden Start yabbering about taboo topics (or swear words) in the second week of classes... could be disastrous! #ELTChat
2:33 pm esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon @esolcourses So, think this requires maturity and confidence and an unbiased stance #ELTchat ] I'd say so
2:34 pm OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Class-wide agreement is essential. And moderation not only of the words themselves but of their use too #ELTchat
2:34 pm cerirhiannon: re multicultural classes -discussed the death penalty with v mulitcultural classes on EAP courses in the UK - v stimulating #ELTchat
2:34 pm Marisa_C: RT @efl101: I guess there is a difference between teaching about something and teaching that something is right/wrong? #eltchat >Yes!
2:34 pm englishraven: RT @efl101: @Marisa_C I guess there is a difference between teaching about something and teaching that something is right/wrong? #eltchat
2:35 pm efl101: @shaunwilden First thing to tell a new teacher, know thy audience ;-) #eltchat
2:35 pm cerirhiannon: RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: So, think this requires maturity and confidence and an unbiased stance #ELTchat > bt a tall order!
2:35 pm englishraven: RT @OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Class-wide agreement is essential. And moderation not only of the words themselves but of their use too #ELTchat
2:35 pm ELTExperiences: The system of stars for inappropriate language of swearing is a good idea in Swan's Practical English Isage book. #ELTchat
2:35 pm cerirhiannon: RT @englishraven: @Shaunwilden Start yabbering about taboo topics (or swear words) in the second week of classes... could be disastrous! #ELTChat
2:36 pm OUPELTGlobal: RT @ELTExperiences: The system of stars for inappropriate language of swearing is a good idea in Swan's Practical English Isage book. #ELTchat
2:36 pm Marisa_C: RT @gret: @Marisa_C Yes. It's essential. Teachers must be aware which subjects are taboo, Esp in multiculatural classes. #ELTChat
2:36 pm cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: @shaunwilden First thing to tell a new teacher, know thy audience ;-) #eltchat > and if u don't then feel your way carefully
2:37 pm janetbianchini: @OUPELTGlobal Definitely! Expert moderation, sensitivity, careful handling of topic is vital if lesson is to be a success #eltchat
2:37 pm Marisa_C: my tweetdeck is playing up on me again - I am getting cross-eyed #ELTchat
2:37 pm englishraven: @ELTExperiences @OUPELTGlobal But I reckon those star ratings could depend on which pub you're at... :-) #ELTChat
2:37 pm Shaunwilden: RT @englishraven: Start yabbering abt taboo/ swear words in the 2nd week could be disastrous! #ELTChat can you imagine sts faces! :-)
2:37 pm efl101: #eltchat I find a gd rule for swear words is tell sts not to swear first, let the other person start ;-)
2:38 pm cerirhiannon: RT @janetbianchini: @OUPELTGlobal Definitely! Expert moderation, sensitivity, careful handling of topic is vital if lesson is to be a success #eltchat
2:38 pm ELTExperiences: @Marisa_C I think judging if smthg is right or wrong is taboo for teachers but facilitating discussion for taboo topics is good. #ELTchat
2:38 pm cybraryman1: Culturally Responsive Teaching links on my Culture page: http://bit.ly/9fURIT #eltchat
2:38 pm OUPELTGlobal: RT @esolcourses: @Shaunwilden tchr's background/culture also a factor > Good point. Not all tchrs comfortable teaching them #ELTChat
2:39 pm englishraven: @Shaunwilden We've all seen plenty of clueless teachers do it, though, haven't we? :-) #ELTChat
2:39 pm janetbianchini: @cybraryman1 Culturally Responsive Teaching links on my Culture page: http://bit.ly/9fURIT #eltchat-great resources to bookmark! Thanks!
2:39 pm OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Good point by @esolcourses that many tchrs may b uncomfortable teaching them #ELTchat
2:39 pm cerirhiannon: RT @ELTExperiences: @Marisa_C judging if smthg is right/wrong is taboo 4 Ts but facilitating discussion 4 taboo topics is gd. #ELTchat >yup
2:40 pm efl101: Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat
2:40 pm englishraven: Classroom as private/mentoring space vs public tutoring space important when it comes to dealing with taboo topics... #ELTChat
2:40 pm Marisa_C: @ELTExperiences facilitating seems to be a key word for these sorts of topics - and teaching politeness principles in discourse #ELTchat
2:40 pm JoeMcVeigh: @efl101 #ELTchat Swearing in L2 often sounds forced, inauthentic. Swearing with a person shows you are both part of same speech community.
2:41 pm efl101: @englishraven yes, good point #eltchat
2:41 pm cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat > *taboos unplugged* love it ;)
2:41 pm janetbianchini: RT @englishraven Classroom as private/mentoring space vs public tutoring space important when it comes to dealing with taboo topics.#ELTChat
2:41 pm Marisa_C: @ELTExperiences I find that even oridinary discussions can disintegrate into rowdy brawls becz Ss not familiar w/ politeness rules #ELTchat
2:41 pm englishraven: RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat -> Mmm, interesting connection!
2:42 pm ELTExperiences: @Marisa_C I'll rephrase that to suitability and appropriacy. #ELTchat
2:42 pm OUPELTGlobal: @englishraven @ELTExperiences Point taken - when have 2 publishers ever agreed? :) #ELTchat
2:42 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @ELTExperiences facilitating key word - and teaching politeness principles in discourse #ELTchat> gr8 for lang of persuasion
2:42 pm Marisa_C: RT @JoeMcVeigh: @efl101 #ELTchat Swearing in L2 often sounds forced, inauthentic...shows you are both part of same speech community.
2:42 pm MartWart: #ELTChat slight tangent: giving students the option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must.
2:42 pm efl101: @cerirhiannon have to be careful about stepping in the dogme ;-) #eltchat
2:42 pm suercons: RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @esolcourses: @Shaunwilden tchr's background/culture also a factor > Good point. Not all tchrs comfortable teaching them #ELTChat
2:42 pm Shaunwilden: RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument 4 unplugged i.e. let topic come to you from sts? #eltchat gd idea but in a class it wld need 2 b the maj?
2:43 pm englishraven: Private/mentoring space with familiarity and trust = well equipped for taboo topics #ELTChat
2:43 pm ELTExperiences: RT @englishraven: RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat -> Mmm, interesting connection!
2:43 pm janetbianchini: If request comes from students, should we as teachers feel obliged to teach what they want, even if we don't like taboo words? #eltchat
2:43 pm Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal @englishraven #ELTchat not in my experience - only at the bar after an exhibition :-)
2:43 pm suercons: RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat
2:43 pm kiTchenerd: RT @Marisa_C: RT @gret: @Marisa_C Yes. It's essential. Teachers must be aware which subjects are taboo, Esp in multiculatural classes. #ELTChat
2:43 pm cerirhiannon: RT @MartWart: #ELTChat giving Ss the option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must. >nice tangent
2:44 pm Shaunwilden: RT @englishraven: Private/mentoring space with familiarity and trust = well equipped for taboo topics #ELTChat
2:44 pm gregqbear: @efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat
2:44 pm efl101: @Shaunwilden 'need to be the maj' very true - too often have 1 or 2 sts pet gripe etc. #eltchat
2:44 pm esolcourses: RT @MartWart: #ELTChat giving students the option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must.
2:44 pm englishraven: Public/lecturing space with few or short relationships b/w T->S and S->S = not good for taboo topics #ELTChat
2:44 pm Marisa_C: RT @efl101: @cerirhiannon have to be careful about stepping in the dogme ;-) #eltchat > careful with your innuendos in here! :-)
2:44 pm englishraven: RT @janetbianchini: If request comes from students, should we as teachers feel obliged to teach what they want, even if we don't like taboo words? #eltchat
2:44 pm efl101: @gregqbear ah yes, possibly more important that! #eltchat
2:45 pm OUPELTGlobal: @Marisa_C @englishraven Everyone's friends at the bar! #ELTchat
2:45 pm Shaunwilden: RT @janetbianchini: If request comes from students, should we as teachers feel obliged to teach what they want, even if we don't like taboo words? #eltchat
2:45 pm englishraven: RT @gregqbear: @efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat -> Right!
2:46 pm cerirhiannon: RT @englishraven: RT @gregqbear: @efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat -> Right! > too true!
2:46 pm OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Goes back to point re tchrs' comfort - obliged or not, if you're not comfortable, you shudn't teach it #ELTchat
2:46 pm Marisa_C: RT @MartWart: #ELTChat giving students option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must. - Views???
2:46 pm efl101: @janetbianchini good question, possibly yes I think, depending on reaction from other sts #eltchat
2:47 pm Marisa_C: RT @englishraven: RT @gregqbear: @efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat -> Right!
2:47 pm englishraven: RT @OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Goes back to point re tchrs' comfort - obliged or not, if you're not comfortable, you shudn't teach it #ELTchat
2:47 pm esolcourses: @OUPELTGlobal @Mtranslator @janetbianchini have tried blogging lessons on controversial topics, but get very few takers #eltchat
2:47 pm Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal :-D #ELTchat
2:47 pm JoeMcVeigh: I want to write Forbidden Topics Discussion Book?but who would publish? Publishers steer clear of taboo subjects?fear loss of sales #ELTchat
2:48 pm englishraven: @JoeMcVeigh You're right - publishers avoid anything even remotely taboo in everything they print. Have to, I guess... #ELTChat
2:48 pm cerirhiannon: RT @OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Goes back to point re tchrs' comfort - obliged or not, if you're not comfortable, you shudn't teach it #ELTchat
2:48 pm Marisa_C: Perhaps use Swan's page as a lead to get Ss to rank - degrees of rudeness, or profanity, or levels of acceptability #ELTchat - idea here :-)
2:48 pm janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon @OUPELTGlobal Don't like teaching swear words as don't use them myself. Yes, point them to other sources, but where? #eltchat
2:49 pm efl101: @OUPELTGlobal @janetbianchini sorry didn't read properly, if u are not comfortable then no don't teach - I agree with that #eltchat
2:49 pm OUPELTGlobal: RT @JoeMcVeigh: Want 2 write Forbidden Topics Discussion Book?but who would publish? Publishers fear taboo subjts #ELTchat > No comment ;-)
2:49 pm cerirhiannon: RT @JoeMcVeigh: I want to write Forbidden Topics Discussion Book?but who would publish? #ELTchat >no-one, but cld always self-publish online
2:50 pm englishraven: So, should 5-level coursebook series for adults at least feature some units on swearing, and taboo topics? I think so. #ELTChat
2:50 pm Marisa_C: @janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Remember an elderly colleague bred in a different era who sat through a brawl smiling! Was English! #ELTchat
2:50 pm ELTExperiences: RT @englishraven: So, should 5-level coursebook series for adults at least feature some units on swearing, and taboo topics? I think so. #ELTChat
2:50 pm bcnpaul1: sorry - a bit late!! Know thy employer indeed. 1 teacher here did a song with swearword & is now labelled as a bit dodgy by mgmnt #ELTChat
2:50 pm cerirhiannon: RT @janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon @OUPELTGlobal Yes, point them to other sources, but where? #eltchat > Swan's book?
2:51 pm gregqbear: @JoeMcVeigh So if publishers won't touch such topics for fear of sales losses, we don't for fear of job losses. #eltchat
2:51 pm efl101: @englishraven probably yes but can see commercial problems #eltchat
2:51 pm bcnpaul1: personally feel that taboo topics are part of culture and culture is a big part of learning a language #ELTChat
2:51 pm ELTExperiences: Are taboo subjects the same for YLs and adults? #ELTchat my opinion they both have differences.
2:51 pm cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @janetbianchini Remember an elderly colleague who sat through a brawl smiling! Was English! #ELTchat> LOL!
2:51 pm janetbianchini: @MartWart Have just googled Mugford -captain in the navy 1749?? #eltchat
2:51 pm englishraven: Having swearwords/taboo topics in formal unit form would take some of the personal heat/responsibility off teachers... #ELTChat
2:51 pm Marisa_C: @englishraven Title for the course "Swearyour way into English" Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words #ELTChat
2:52 pm efl101: RT @Marisa_C: @janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Remember an elderly colleague bred in a different era who sat through a brawl smiling! Was English! #ELTchat
2:52 pm OUPELTGlobal: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon Yes, point them to other sources, but where? #eltchat > Swan's book? > Perhaps! #ELTchat
2:52 pm gret: RT @ELTExperiences: Are taboo subjects the same for YLs and adults? #ELTchat my opinion they both have differences. #ELTChat
2:52 pm englishraven: RT @Marisa_C: @englishraven Title for the course "Swearyour way into English" Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words #ELTChat
2:52 pm Shaunwilden: RT @bcnpaul1: personally feel that taboo topics are part of culture + culture is a big part of learning a language #ELTChat seconded
2:53 pm janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon Yes, Swan's book would be a good start, but anything else as well? #ELTchat
2:53 pm englishraven: @Marisa_C I love your unit titles by level! (Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words) #ELTChat
2:53 pm ELTExperiences: RT @janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon @OUPELTGlobal Teaching swear words but where? #eltchat -> make a list of common swearwords.
2:53 pm englishraven: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @bcnpaul1: feel that taboo topics are part of culture + culture is a big part of learning a language #ELTChat >thirded!
2:53 pm bcnpaul1: taboos for YLs - a tricky subject but depends on maturity of kids I guess #ELTChat
2:53 pm efl101: @Marisa_C @englishraven v. good or 1 annoy strangers, 2 annoy colleagues, 3 annoy friends, 4 no-ones talking to you ;-) #eltchat
2:54 pm esolcourses: @janetbianchini think we should take learners views into account, but we shouldn't feel under any obligation to let them decide #eltchat
2:54 pm bcnpaul1: RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C I love your unit titles by level! (Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words) #ELTChat
2:54 pm affreshair: RT @Marisa_C: @englishraven Title for the course "Swearyour way into English" Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words #ELTChat
2:54 pm Marisa_C: @englishraven I should be hired by some publisher then :-D #ELTChat
2:54 pm englishraven: RT @efl101: @Marisa_C @englishraven v. good or 1 annoy strangers, 2 annoy colleagues, 3 annoy friends, 4 no-ones talking to you ;-) #eltchat
2:54 pm OUPELTGlobal: @Marisa_C @englishraven Level 4 - Bordering on obscenity! #ELTchat
2:55 pm esolcourses: RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C I love your unit titles by level! (Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words) #ELTChat :-))
2:55 pm ELTExperiences: How about starting with common L1 compared to L2 swearwords to facilitate a dogme based lesson? Get sts contribute during class. #ELTchat
2:55 pm Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal Te he he bordering? that's the intemed level - outright obscenity is advanced #ELTchat
2:55 pm OUPELTGlobal: RT @englishraven: Having swearwords/taboo topics in formal unit form would take some of the personal heat/responsibility off teachers... #ELTChat
2:56 pm cerirhiannon: sorry, got to go, time to put my mothering hat on - swimming classes call! gr8 convo will catch up with the last 10 mins later on #ELTchat
2:56 pm englishraven: I used to demonstrate to YLs the 'gravity' of certain swearwords they used in English for a larf by indicating the L1 equivalent #ELTChat
2:56 pm gregqbear: @englishraven Yes but some aspects of culture better not learned. Have to watch potential for cultural imperialism too. #eltchat
2:56 pm Marisa_C: With 5 mins to go any bright ideas #ELTchat for practical stuff? E.g. my rude wiki?
2:57 pm englishraven: Think it's worth differentiating between EFL and ESL contexts for this one as well #ELTChat
2:57 pm OUPELTGlobal: @Marisa_C Maybe level 5 is Room-clearingly offensive :-) #ELTchat
2:57 pm cerirhiannon: thx 2 everyone for a gr8 discussion on #ELTchat as always - too many to mention everyone by name! #ELTchat
2:57 pm cerirhiannon: RT @gregqbear: @englishraven Yes but some aspects of culture better not learned. Have to watch potential for cultural imperialism too. #eltchat
2:57 pm ELTExperiences: @OUPELTGlobal @englishraven @Marisa_C I would hate to know what level 5 swearing would be. ;) #ELTchat
2:58 pm Marisa_C: Raniking ? #ELTchat @englishraven I don't like translation for the same reason - if not your L1 #ELTChat
2:58 pm efl101: @Marisa_C perhaps videos/podcasts of people talking about taboo topics and then analysis of lang. in class? #eltchat
2:58 pm OUPELTGlobal: @ELTExperiences See previous... #ELTchat
2:58 pm JoeMcVeigh: June blog posting of @thornburyscott on taboos very good - also read comments:http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat
2:58 pm Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: With 5 mins to go any bright ideas #ELTchat for practical stuff? E.g. my rude wiki?
2:58 pm hoprea: Sigh... couldn't participate in #ELTChat this morning... hope I can join the afternoon discussion.
2:58 pm englishraven: ESLers need to know this stuff much more than most EFLers do, I think... #ELTChat
2:59 pm janetbianchini: @esolcourses Absolutely! One teacher I know "went with the flow" and moderated a discussion on taboo words- it was ss' best lesson #eltchat
2:59 pm Marisa_C: RT @efl101: @Marisa_C perhaps videos/podcasts of people talking about taboo topics and then analysis of lang. in class? #eltchat > More!
2:59 pm englishraven: RT @JoeMcVeigh: June blog posting of @thornburyscott on taboos very good - also read comments:http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat >Agree
2:59 pm esolcourses: (Warning - Possibly not safe for work!!!) Hot For Words - ELT site that tackles taboos, rude words, etc http://bit.ly/goSc #eltchat
2:59 pm Marisa_C: DVD clips fro films? #ELTChat
2:59 pm englishraven: RT @esolcourses: (Warning - Possibly not safe for work!!!) Hot For Words - ELT site that tackles taboos, rude words, etc http://bit.ly/goSc #eltchat
2:59 pm denilsodelima: @hoprea Hey, how does that work? #ELTCHAT
2:59 pm Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the endhttp://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat
2:59 pm Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden that was supposed to be a joke :-D #ELTchat
3:00 pm bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: RT @efl101: @Marisa_C perhaps videos/podcasts of people talking about taboo topics and then analysis of lang. in class? #eltchat > More!
3:00 pm JoeMcVeigh: @janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESL http://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat
3:00 pm CELT_Athens: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the endhttp://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat
3:00 pm Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the endhttp://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat
3:00 pm efl101: @Marisa_C possibly lessons on eliciting what sts think are taboo for them and then lang. for avoiding discussing them? #eltchat
3:00 pm englishraven: @Mtranslator @Marisa_C There can be equivalents in L1 in terms of 'gravity'or impact/level of offence. #ELTChat
3:01 pm bcnpaul1: dvd clips using safeshare.tv #ELTChat
3:01 pm englishraven: RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the end http://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat
3:01 pm janetbianchini: Rt #JoeMcVeigh June blog posting of @thornburyscott on taboos very good - also read comments:http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat -thanks, will do
3:01 pm Shaunwilden: oo jokes, are they sort of taboo as well ;-) #ELTChat
3:01 pm englishraven: RT @JoeMcVeigh: @janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESL http://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat
3:01 pm gret: @Marisa_C movie clips and songs can be really helpful for teaching taboo topics #ELTChat
3:01 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: dvd clips using safeshare.tv #ELTchat
3:01 pm Marisa_C: RT @englishraven: @Mtranslator @Marisa_C There can be equivalents in L1 in terms of 'gravity'or impact/level of offence. #ELTChat
3:02 pm Marisa_C: @englishraven good for a translators' course actually - trying to find equivalents of similar impact #ELTChat
3:02 pm englishraven: Brings us to the end of another #ELTChat - thanks for all your contributions, everyone!
3:02 pm gret: RT @Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: dvd clips using safeshare.tv #ELTchat #ELTChat
3:03 pm Marisa_C: RT @JoeMcVeigh: Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESLhttp://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat z > A ha ha ! Gr8!
3:03 pm Marisa_C: RT @gret: @Marisa_C movie clips and songs can be really helpful for teaching taboo topics #ELTChat
3:03 pm harrisonmike: @englishraven Nooooooo, relevant for all. Wholey believe that. #eltchat
3:03 pm janetbianchini: @JoeMcVeigh Thanks! Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESLhttp://bit.ly/ahLMGN Looks interesting #ELTChat
3:03 pm Marisa_C: RT @englishraven: Brings us to the end of another #ELTChat - thanks for all your contributions, everyone! . Thank you my co-moderator!:-)
3:04 pm bcnpaul1: www.newsbiscuit.com is good for a humorous starting point with news articles #ELTChat
3:04 pm englishraven: We didn't 'solve the taboos problem' but I certainly got some valuable perspectives and ideas for classroom practice. #ELTChat
3:04 pm efl101: must dash or will miss train then wife will use plenty of taboo words ;-) thanx for gr8 discussion & esp. to moderators #eltchat
3:05 pm Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: www.newsbiscuit.com is good for a humorous starting point with news articles #ELTChat
3:05 pm gret: Thanks everyone for a great #ELTChat!

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