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October 6, 2010 |
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2:00 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Just come out of very sunny garden early esp. for #ELTchat |
2:00 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Can we begin perhaps by defining which subjects we consider to be taboo? C #ELTchat |
2:00 pm |
ESLlibrary: |
RT @gret New posts on my students' blogs! Please leave comments! http://bit.ly/c65eOz#comments4kids #edchat #elemchat #ELTChat -Done! |
2:01 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat talking about taboo subjects in the classroom |
2:01 pm |
Marisa_C: |
#ELTchat for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to the #ELTchat |
2:01 pm |
eshwaranv: |
At the company dinner. Will be missing #eltchat :( |
2:01 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Marisa_C: Can we begin perhaps by defining which subjects we consider to be taboo? C #ELTchat -> I assume this could vary by context? |
2:02 pm |
efl101: |
politic, religion, sex? all taboo? #eltchat |
2:02 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@eshwaranv :-( #eltchat |
2:02 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Overtly sexual content? #ELTchat I wouldn't feel comfortable dealing with that. |
2:02 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
What do you count as a taboo subject? Swear words, for example? #ELTchat |
2:02 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat talking about taboo subjects in the classroom |
2:02 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
#ELTchat maybe not what we consider taboo, but what had traditionally been considered taboo ? the old PARSNIP acronym #ELTchat |
2:02 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@Marisa_C when I taught in Greece my contract forbade me to talk about religion and politics so to my employers they were taboo #ELTchat |
2:02 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @efl101: politic, religion, sex? all taboo? #eltchat | What do you all think? Drugs abuse? Violence? |
2:03 pm |
janetbianchini: |
#ELTchat for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to the #ELTchat |
2:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @Shaunwilden: when I taught in Greece my contract forbade me to talk about religion and politics 2my employers they were taboo #ELTchat |
2:03 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C when I taught in Greece my contract forbade me to talk about religion and politics so to my employers they were taboo #ELTchat |
2:03 pm |
efl101: |
do we (teachers) define taboo or do the students have a say? #eltchat |
2:03 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @cerirhiannon: #ELTchat maybe not what we consider taboo, but what had traditionally been considered taboo ? the old PARSNIP acronym #ELTchat |
2:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden and did you disagree or not? #ELTchat |
2:03 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
sexual orientation, lying, kids out of marriage .... all been *tabooed* at some time or other in contexts I was working in #ELTchat |
2:04 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
What subjects qualify as taboo where you teach? #ELTchat |
2:04 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cerirhiannon explain PARSNIP to the uninitiated pls? #ELTchat #ELTchat |
2:04 pm |
esolcourses: |
Are we talking about taboos here, or controversial issues? not sure they are one and the same thing, myself #eltchat |
2:04 pm |
englishraven: |
Let's not forget sexuality... A real big one on the taboo scales in so many contexts. #ELTChat |
2:04 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
alcohol, darwinism, ghosts .... in a more specific context #ELTchat |
2:04 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Politics, religion maybe ok in the proper context eg in topical news of the day / front pages of papers etc -can't be avoided! #ELTchat |
2:04 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @cerirhiannon: sexual orientation, lying, kids out of marriage all *tabooed* at some time or other in contexts I was working in #ELTchat |
2:05 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: What subjects qualify as taboo where you teach? ] good point... does vary between different cultures #ELTchat |
2:05 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cerirhiannon Gay rights? #ELTchat |
2:05 pm |
michelfranklin: |
RT @Marisa_C politic, religion, sex? all taboo? #eltchat | What do you all think? Drugs abuse? Violence? |
2:05 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@Marisa_C It was my 1st job so was careful though found the sts wanted to talk about them so it was unavoidable - keep forgetting #ELTchat |
2:06 pm |
englishraven: |
When I was teaching in Korea, homosexuality in particular was a huge "no go" area. #ELTChat |
2:06 pm |
janetbianchini: |
In former GDR I was forbidden to discuss politics, religion and royalty. Not much left over to teach then, lol #ELTchat |
2:06 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (such as communism or atheism), and pork see http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat |
2:06 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: What do you count as a taboo subject? Swear words, for example? #ELTchatSome of my fave lessons are on swear words :-) |
2:06 pm |
cybraryman1: |
You have to be careful not to promote generalizations or stereotypes that could upset or insult anyone #eltchat |
2:07 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden #ELTchat - recall similar experiences - had a student who was an expert - assigned him teaching rights outside class :-) |
2:07 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @cerirhiannon: PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (such as communism or atheism), and pork see http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat |
2:07 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Gay rights? ] & even women's rights, in some cultures? #ELTchat |
2:07 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @OUPELTGlobal: #ELTchat Some of my fave lessons are on swear words :-) - I know people who have lost jobs tho |
2:07 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Gay rights? ] & even women's rights, in some cultures? #ELTchat |
2:07 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @cybraryman1: You have to be careful not to promote generalizations or stereotypes that could upset or insult anyone #eltchat |
2:08 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @janetbianchini: In former GDR I was forbidden to discuss politics, religion and royalty. Not much left over to teach then, lol #ELTchat |
2:08 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @cerirhiannon PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (such as communism or atheism), #ELTchat |
2:08 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Gay rights? ] & even women's rights, in some cultures? #ELTchat | Hear hear! |
2:08 pm |
avealmec: |
If Language is culture, its so difficult no to talk about politics in class...even though we have to avoid it here in #Venezuela #ELTchat |
2:08 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @cybraryman1: You have to be careful not to promote generalizations or stereotypes that could upset or insult anyone #eltchat |
2:08 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @cerirhiannon: PARSNIP = politics, alcohol, religion, sex, narcotics, isms (communism, atheism) & pork http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat |
2:08 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: In former GDR forbidden to discuss politics, religion and royalty. Not much left over to teach then, lol #ELTchat |
2:09 pm |
efl101: |
@cybraryman1 does not promote = not discuss? #eltchat |
2:09 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@janetbianchini So as @englishraven pointed out, depends on context - #ELTchat |
2:10 pm |
englishraven: |
I think there's a difference... between what a teacher brings up in class, and what Ss choose to bring up. #ELTChat |
2:10 pm |
InglesInteract: |
Would you consider talking about racism as a taboo too? #eltchat |
2:10 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
#ELTchat I think it's often a question of sensitivity 2local culture, coupled w sensitivity 2indiv ss & making the most of closed doors ;) |
2:10 pm |
harrisonmike: |
Will have to read up on #ELTchat after. Off to training about Citizenship and Controversial Issues. Bye! |
2:10 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
Isnt there a book called taboo and issues on topics that is meant for ELT use, I seem to recall it always being in the staffroom? #ELTchat |
2:10 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
I sometimes insert some taboo topics to encourage discussion and communication in class. #ELTchat |
2:11 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @cerirhiannon: #ELTchat I think it's often a question of sensitivity 2local culture, coupled w sensitivity 2indiv ss & making the most of closed doors ;) |
2:11 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
In US public schools separation of church and state makes religion usually taboo though integral to many students identities #ELTChat |
2:11 pm |
janetbianchini: |
#eltchat Moderation in all things. If we are too afraid to voice "real topics" in class, then what happens when ss encounter them outside? |
2:11 pm |
wmchamberlain: |
RT @gret: New posts on my students' blogs! Please leave them some comments! http://bit.ly/c65eOz#comments4kids #edchat #ntchat #elemchat #ELTChat |
2:11 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
re PARSNIP - link is to @ThornburyScott 's post on T is for Taboo #ELTchat |
2:11 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden Greece hasn't changed all that much - and in frontistiria with younger learners no wonder #ELTchat |
2:11 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @InglesInteract: Would you consider talking about racism as a taboo too? #eltchat -> Yes, in some places, this can be taboo as well. |
2:11 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @InglesInteract: Would you consider talking about racism as a taboo? #eltchat an interesting point - how teacher deal with overt racism |
2:11 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden Michael Swan's Practical English Usage has a section on this #ELTchat |
2:11 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book. http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat |
2:12 pm |
gret: |
@Shaunwilden Yes, it;s written by MacAndrew and Martinez. Photocopiable lessons #ELTChat |
2:12 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden Not seen a dedicated book #ELTchat |
2:12 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Shaunwilden Yes, Taboos and Issues is a very good book. Have used it myself in the past.#eltchat |
2:12 pm |
bruno_cesar82: |
@cybraryman1 hey man, when does the #eltchat take place? cheers! |
2:12 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
@Shaunwilden check my previous tweet. #ELTchat |
2:12 pm |
cybraryman1: |
@efl101 If it is brought up you should discuss but be careful with what you say #eltchat |
2:13 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden Should it be the teacher teaching them? #eltchat | Or should it be left up to google skills? |
2:13 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book.http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat |
2:13 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Rt @gret @Shaunwilden Yes, "Taboos and Issues" written by MacAndrew and Martinez. Photocopiable lessons #ELTChat |
2:13 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book. http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat -> plz check |
2:13 pm |
efl101: |
@inglesinteract no. talking about it is good, dealing with racist views of sts = more difficult #eltchat |
2:13 pm |
InglesInteract: |
@englishraven Yes, I agree here in Brazil one has to be careful about this issue #eltchat |
2:13 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: @Shaunwilden Yes, Taboos and Issues is a very good book. Have used it myself in the past.#eltchat Thx |
2:13 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@Marisa_C @ShaunWilden Sts are going 2 learn swear words at some point. Q is...shud it b the tchr tchng them or find out 4 thmslvs? #ELTchat |
2:14 pm |
cybraryman1: |
@bruno_cesar82 #eltchat is happening now and then later today: http://bit.ly/bBcuWV |
2:14 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book.http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat | Surely for adults? |
2:14 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@OUPELTGlobal I think if the sts r going to an Eng speaking L1 they need to know e.g. the f word is such a commonly used word #ELTchat |
2:14 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @cybraryman1: @efl101 should discuss but be careful with what you say #eltchat > even if it comes from the Ss still need to tread softly |
2:14 pm |
InglesInteract: |
RT @ELTExperiences: One book that I recommend the following taboo and issues book.http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat -> plz check |
2:14 pm |
janetbianchini: |
I recall doing "Addiction" from Taboos and Issues book http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat |
2:15 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
But is taboos a good way to start sts speaking, in a way as the devils advocate? #ELTchat |
2:15 pm |
englishraven: |
I think it is important to chart or frame discussions in advance as being 'about' something taboo, to contextualise it. #ELTChat |
2:15 pm |
efl101: |
if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with the language? #eltchat |
2:16 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
If discussing taboo topics must prepare carefully ? be sure students are respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat |
2:16 pm |
Marisa_C: |
The problem with L2 learners using taboo language - e.g. swear words - is they don't know the exact impact on the L1 ear #ELTchat |
2:16 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @ELTExperiences: But is taboos a good way to start sts speaking, in a way as the devils advocate? #ELTchat |
2:16 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Marisa_C Yes, I would say for young adults +http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat |
2:17 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with lang? #eltchat>moderate & facilitate lang I'd say |
2:17 pm |
englishraven: |
Key question: Deliberately avoiding taboo subjects = underpreparing our Ss for 'real world' out there where language is used? #ELTChat |
2:17 pm |
esolcourses: |
@cerirhiannon: accept @ThornburyScott 's points - do wonder though how much demand there is for lessons on controversial issues #ELTchat |
2:17 pm |
vickyloras: |
I'm on the train following #ELTChat a bit! |
2:17 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: If discussing taboo topics must prepare carefully ? be sure students are respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat |
2:17 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: @Marisa_C Yes, I would say for young adults +http://bit.ly/9sFIi7 #ELTchat |
2:17 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: If discussing taboo topics must prepare carefully ? be sure students are respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat |
2:17 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @efl101: if st discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with the language? #eltchat gd? I find it hard not 2 give a view |
2:18 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@Shaunwilden Quite. We use an ave of 90 swear words a day and yet sts are rarely taught them. Surely sth so common shud b taught? #ELTchat |
2:18 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: If discussing taboo topics prepare carefully ?students respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat |
2:18 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help? #eltchat >moderate & facilitate lang I'd say |
2:18 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Often students request taboo words because they hear them outside class (in UK), so is it teacher's duty to teach them? #ELTchat |
2:18 pm |
InglesInteract: |
@efl101 I think even talking can be difficult #eltchat cuz some stds I mean teenagers can feel offended in class |
2:18 pm |
SugarJo: |
#ELTchat tomorrow is the start of my "Gender Studies" content based class..very excited..it's where I always was... |
2:18 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat I remember in my first year of teaching some YLs told me to F-off. He didn't realise the appropriacy of it. |
2:18 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help with lang? #eltchat >moderate & facilitate lang I'd say |
2:18 pm |
vickyloras: |
RT @englishraven Key question:Deliberately avoiding taboo subjs= underpreparing our Ss 4'real world' out there where lang is used? #ELTChat |
2:19 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @esolcourses: wonder how much demand there is for lessons on controversial issues #ELTchat> sm Ss can feel very uncomfortable |
2:19 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@OUPELTGlobal Schools must first have a policy to protect teachers' jobs - I know Ts who lost their #ELTchat |
2:19 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@OUPELTGlobal theirs #ELTchat |
2:19 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@janetbianchini See our previous tweets #ELTchat |
2:19 pm |
gret: |
RT @janetbianchini: Often students request taboo words because they hear them outside class (in UK), so is it teacher's duty to teach them? #ELTchat |
2:19 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @Shaunwilden Quite. We use an ave of 90 swear words a day and yet sts are rarely taught them. Surely sth so common shud b taught? #ELTchat |
2:19 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @ELTExperiences: #ELTchat I remember in my first year of teaching some YLs told me to F-off. He didn't realise the appropriacy of it. |
2:20 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
Is local\national crime a taboo subject to include in class? #ELTchat |
2:20 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Most of the older methodology books speak against teaching taboo words #ELTchat |
2:20 pm |
avealmec: |
Too true,there will be lack of authenticity and applicability of language @englishraven #ELTChat |
2:20 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @vickyloras: RT @englishraven Key question:Deliberately avoiding taboo subjs= underpreparing our Ss 4'real world' out there where lang is used? #ELTChat |
2:20 pm |
affreshair: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @Shaunwilden Quite. We use an ave of 90 swear words a day and yet sts are rarely taught them. Surely sth so common shud b taught? #ELTchat |
2:20 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@Marisa_C Agreed. It requires a v open schl environment or a v brave tchr #ELTchat |
2:20 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @cerirhiannon: RT @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help? #eltchat >moderate & facilitate lang I'd say |
2:20 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @esolcourses: @efl101: if sts discuss taboo themes, do we give our views or simply help? #eltchat>moderate & facilitate lang I'd say |
2:20 pm |
efl101: |
@shaunwilden @cerirhiannon I often feel need 2 give my view too but sometimes fear unfair advantage (teacher status and lang.) #eltchat |
2:21 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh must prepare carefully -be sure students r respectful of each other and material is age appropriate #ELTChat |
2:21 pm |
vickyloras: |
Some of our best lessons w/Ss were around the film "Philadelphia" #ELTChat They responded and handled it very well.Learned a lot-me&them. |
2:22 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @vickyloras: Some of our best lessons w/Ss were around the film "Philadelphia" #ELTChat They responded and handled it very well.Learned a lot-me&them. |
2:22 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
On topic of taboo words, Swan's Practical English Usage has a gr8 chapter on grammar of taboo words (Sorry 4 the plug!) #ELTchat |
2:22 pm |
InglesInteract: |
@Marisa_C I'd try to moderate cuz depends on our view it can influence the stds's opinion #eltchat |
2:22 pm |
englishraven: |
Interesting... how taboo bridges the two streams of language and culture, with sometimes uncomfortable ropes. #ELTChat |
2:22 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@efl101 Good to open up the discussion to discussion topics other than swear words @esolcourses#eltchat |
2:22 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @vickyloras: Some of our best lessons w/Ss were around the film "Philadelphia" #ELTChat They responded and handled it very well.Learned a lot-me&them. |
2:22 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Rt @englishraven Key question:Deliberately avoiding taboo subjs=underpreparing our Ss 4'real world' out there where lang is used? #ELTChat |
2:23 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @efl101: I often feel need 2 give my view too but sometimes fear unfair advantage (teacher status and lang.) #eltchat -> Good point. |
2:23 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @englishraven: Interesting... how taboo bridges the two streams of language and culture, with sometimes uncomfortable ropes. #ELTChat |
2:23 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
@efl101 Agreed though I taught a lot of Bus Eng & think sts shd b aware when a view point may b cultural #eltchat |
2:23 pm |
vickyloras: |
Rats!I have to get off the train-will switch on again soon #ELTChat |
2:23 pm |
englishraven: |
@OUPELTGlobal Got it next to me on the desk! Shall take a gander... #ELTChat |
2:24 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
. Text: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESL by Elizabeth Claire - caution: illustrated! http://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat |
2:24 pm |
esolcourses: |
@OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden agree, but if you do teach swear words, students need to be able to understand context, etc! #eltchat |
2:24 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: Interesting... how taboo bridges the two streams of language and culture, with sometimes uncomfortable ropes. #ELTChat |
2:24 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @efl101: @shaunwilden I often feel need 2 give my view too> can always intro new/minority views as "some people say ... #ELTchat |
2:25 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@esolcourses @ShaunWilden Yes, context and appropriateness! Perhaps cultural acceptability as well? #ELTchat |
2:26 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@englishraven Please share anything interesting you come across #ELTchat |
2:26 pm |
gregqbear: |
I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat |
2:26 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@OUPELTGlobal Thanks - I think if requested by ss, they could peer teach words(done this in the past), but teacher needs to monitor #eltchat |
2:26 pm |
efl101: |
@marisa_c agree, 2 most angry classes I had = immigration and womens role (are syllabus topics) but shld I confront racism/sexism? #eltchat |
2:27 pm |
englishraven: |
@OUPELTGlobal I don't think I can, to be honest... not in such esteemed company! #ELTChat |
2:27 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Rt @OUPELTGlobal On topic of taboo words, Swan's Practical English Usage has a gr8 chapter on grammar of taboo words #ELTchat agree! |
2:28 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@janetbianchini If requested by ss, they could peer teach words but tchr needs to monitor > Monitor and moderate perhaps #eltchat |
2:28 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
So sts appropriacy and class understanding are best for inserting taboo subjects in class? #ELTchatWho would teach swearing in class? |
2:28 pm |
englishraven: |
Just glancing through the "taboo words" section of Swan's Practical English Usage right now. Pretty comprehensive and up front! #ELTChat |
2:29 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @gregqbear: I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat |
2:29 pm |
efl101: |
@cerirhiannon 'some people say' ha, good one I think I'll use that ;-) #eltchat |
2:29 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@englishraven Haha. No, perhaps not :) #ELTchat |
2:29 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@efl101 Can be a tricky situation for the teacher - agree #eltchat |
2:29 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
RT @englishraven: Just glancing through the "taboo words" section of Swan's Practical English Usage right now. Pretty comprehensive and up front! #ELTChat |
2:29 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven Yes, very good chapter #ELTChat |
2:29 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @englishraven: Just glancing through the "taboo words" section of Swan's Practical English Usage right now. Pretty comprehensive and up front! #ELTChat |
2:30 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @gregqbear: I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat |
2:30 pm |
esolcourses: |
@cerirhiannon some teachers can feel uncomfortable discussing taboo or controversial topics, as well - not an easy option #ELTchat |
2:30 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @efl101: @cerirhiannon 'some people say' ha, good one I think I'll use that ;-) #eltchat< of course, most Ss see right thru it ;) |
2:30 pm |
Marisa_C: |
In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat |
2:31 pm |
esolcourses: |
@OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden yes, culture can play a part - sometimes the teacher's background/culture is a factor, as well #ELTChat |
2:31 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat |
2:31 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @gregqbear: I guess part of the issue is whether "taboo" subjects are discussed in first language schools. Could be a source of guidance. #eltchat |
2:31 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
So what would we tell a new teacher in terms of dealing with taboo topics? #eltchat |
2:31 pm |
englishraven: |
It's a hugely important skill for Ss to be able to handle taboo subjects with appropriate language and style, don't you think? #ELTChat |
2:31 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@OUPELTGlobal Agree, monitor and lots of moderating 2 ensure nobody gets offended. I'd always ask whole class if they agree first.#ELTchat |
2:31 pm |
efl101: |
@ELTExperiences 'Who would teach swearing in class?' I would as sts need it for my ESP classes #eltchat (bl**dy hash tag) |
2:31 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat |
2:31 pm |
gregqbear: |
Good time to teach elementary school kids. Rarely found taboo problems with them - usually didn't have enough L2 for discussion. #eltchat |
2:32 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat |
2:32 pm |
InglesInteract: |
@Marisa_C RTIn a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat >>> I agree! |
2:32 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it imp for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat> yes, where poss |
2:32 pm |
englishraven: |
@Shaunwilden I would say, create a respectful and open learning environment first. #ELTChat |
2:32 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
@efl101 there is a whole list of swearwords in Swan's Practical English Usage. #ELTchat |
2:32 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cerirhiannon @esolcourses So, think this requires maturity and confidence and an unbiased stance #ELTchat |
2:32 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Shaunwilden: So what would we tell a new teacher in terms of dealing with taboo topics? #eltchat |
2:32 pm |
efl101: |
@Marisa_C I guess there is a difference between teaching about something and teaching that something is right/wrong? #eltchat |
2:32 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @efl101: @ELTExperiences 'Who would teach swearing in class?' I would as sts need it for my ESP classes #eltchat (bl**dy hash tag) |
2:33 pm |
gret: |
@Marisa_C Yes. It's essential. Teachers must be aware which subjects are taboo, Esp in multiculatural classes. #ELTChat |
2:33 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
I sometimes teach use of taboo words for emphasis in speech acts: ?Close the #$(%## door.? Work up from milder terms. #ELTChat |
2:33 pm |
InglesInteract: |
@efl101 I try not to be teach swearing, but some words as presented in movies, I would #eltchat, the stds want to know somehow |
2:33 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden You read my mind - yes, what? I would say avoid them for the time being #eltchat |
2:33 pm |
englishraven: |
@Shaunwilden Start yabbering about taboo topics (or swear words) in the second week of classes... could be disastrous! #ELTChat |
2:33 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon @esolcourses So, think this requires maturity and confidence and an unbiased stance #ELTchat ] I'd say so |
2:34 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@janetbianchini Class-wide agreement is essential. And moderation not only of the words themselves but of their use too #ELTchat |
2:34 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
re multicultural classes -discussed the death penalty with v mulitcultural classes on EAP courses in the UK - v stimulating #ELTchat |
2:34 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @efl101: I guess there is a difference between teaching about something and teaching that something is right/wrong? #eltchat >Yes! |
2:34 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @efl101: @Marisa_C I guess there is a difference between teaching about something and teaching that something is right/wrong? #eltchat |
2:35 pm |
efl101: |
@shaunwilden First thing to tell a new teacher, know thy audience ;-) #eltchat |
2:35 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: So, think this requires maturity and confidence and an unbiased stance #ELTchat > bt a tall order! |
2:35 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Class-wide agreement is essential. And moderation not only of the words themselves but of their use too #ELTchat |
2:35 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
The system of stars for inappropriate language of swearing is a good idea in Swan's Practical English Isage book. #ELTchat |
2:35 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @englishraven: @Shaunwilden Start yabbering about taboo topics (or swear words) in the second week of classes... could be disastrous! #ELTChat |
2:36 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
RT @ELTExperiences: The system of stars for inappropriate language of swearing is a good idea in Swan's Practical English Isage book. #ELTchat |
2:36 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @gret: @Marisa_C Yes. It's essential. Teachers must be aware which subjects are taboo, Esp in multiculatural classes. #ELTChat |
2:36 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @efl101: @shaunwilden First thing to tell a new teacher, know thy audience ;-) #eltchat > and if u don't then feel your way carefully |
2:37 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@OUPELTGlobal Definitely! Expert moderation, sensitivity, careful handling of topic is vital if lesson is to be a success #eltchat |
2:37 pm |
Marisa_C: |
my tweetdeck is playing up on me again - I am getting cross-eyed #ELTchat |
2:37 pm |
englishraven: |
@ELTExperiences @OUPELTGlobal But I reckon those star ratings could depend on which pub you're at... :-) #ELTChat |
2:37 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @englishraven: Start yabbering abt taboo/ swear words in the 2nd week could be disastrous! #ELTChat can you imagine sts faces! :-) |
2:37 pm |
efl101: |
#eltchat I find a gd rule for swear words is tell sts not to swear first, let the other person start ;-) |
2:38 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @janetbianchini: @OUPELTGlobal Definitely! Expert moderation, sensitivity, careful handling of topic is vital if lesson is to be a success #eltchat |
2:38 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
@Marisa_C I think judging if smthg is right or wrong is taboo for teachers but facilitating discussion for taboo topics is good. #ELTchat |
2:38 pm |
cybraryman1: |
Culturally Responsive Teaching links on my Culture page: http://bit.ly/9fURIT #eltchat |
2:38 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
RT @esolcourses: @Shaunwilden tchr's background/culture also a factor > Good point. Not all tchrs comfortable teaching them #ELTChat |
2:39 pm |
englishraven: |
@Shaunwilden We've all seen plenty of clueless teachers do it, though, haven't we? :-) #ELTChat |
2:39 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cybraryman1 Culturally Responsive Teaching links on my Culture page: http://bit.ly/9fURIT #eltchat-great resources to bookmark! Thanks! |
2:39 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@janetbianchini Good point by @esolcourses that many tchrs may b uncomfortable teaching them #ELTchat |
2:39 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @ELTExperiences: @Marisa_C judging if smthg is right/wrong is taboo 4 Ts but facilitating discussion 4 taboo topics is gd. #ELTchat >yup |
2:40 pm |
efl101: |
Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat |
2:40 pm |
englishraven: |
Classroom as private/mentoring space vs public tutoring space important when it comes to dealing with taboo topics... #ELTChat |
2:40 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@ELTExperiences facilitating seems to be a key word for these sorts of topics - and teaching politeness principles in discourse #ELTchat |
2:40 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
@efl101 #ELTchat Swearing in L2 often sounds forced, inauthentic. Swearing with a person shows you are both part of same speech community. |
2:41 pm |
efl101: |
@englishraven yes, good point #eltchat |
2:41 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat > *taboos unplugged* love it ;) |
2:41 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @englishraven Classroom as private/mentoring space vs public tutoring space important when it comes to dealing with taboo topics.#ELTChat |
2:41 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@ELTExperiences I find that even oridinary discussions can disintegrate into rowdy brawls becz Ss not familiar w/ politeness rules #ELTchat |
2:41 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat -> Mmm, interesting connection! |
2:42 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
@Marisa_C I'll rephrase that to suitability and appropriacy. #ELTchat |
2:42 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@englishraven @ELTExperiences Point taken - when have 2 publishers ever agreed? :) #ELTchat |
2:42 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: @ELTExperiences facilitating key word - and teaching politeness principles in discourse #ELTchat> gr8 for lang of persuasion |
2:42 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: @efl101 #ELTchat Swearing in L2 often sounds forced, inauthentic...shows you are both part of same speech community. |
2:42 pm |
MartWart: |
#ELTChat slight tangent: giving students the option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must. |
2:42 pm |
efl101: |
@cerirhiannon have to be careful about stepping in the dogme ;-) #eltchat |
2:42 pm |
suercons: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @esolcourses: @Shaunwilden tchr's background/culture also a factor > Good point. Not all tchrs comfortable teaching them #ELTChat |
2:42 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument 4 unplugged i.e. let topic come to you from sts? #eltchat gd idea but in a class it wld need 2 b the maj? |
2:43 pm |
englishraven: |
Private/mentoring space with familiarity and trust = well equipped for taboo topics #ELTChat |
2:43 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @englishraven: RT @efl101: Is taboo an argument for unplugged i.e. let the topic come to you from sts? #eltchat -> Mmm, interesting connection! |
2:43 pm |
janetbianchini: |
If request comes from students, should we as teachers feel obliged to teach what they want, even if we don't like taboo words? #eltchat |
2:43 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@OUPELTGlobal @englishraven #ELTchat not in my experience - only at the bar after an exhibition :-) |
2:43 pm |
suercons: |
RT @Marisa_C: In a multicultural class is it important for the teacher to know which subkects are taboo for the Ss? #ELTchat |
2:43 pm |
kiTchenerd: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @gret: @Marisa_C Yes. It's essential. Teachers must be aware which subjects are taboo, Esp in multiculatural classes. #ELTChat |
2:43 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @MartWart: #ELTChat giving Ss the option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must. >nice tangent |
2:44 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @englishraven: Private/mentoring space with familiarity and trust = well equipped for taboo topics #ELTChat |
2:44 pm |
gregqbear: |
@efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat |
2:44 pm |
efl101: |
@Shaunwilden 'need to be the maj' very true - too often have 1 or 2 sts pet gripe etc. #eltchat |
2:44 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @MartWart: #ELTChat giving students the option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must. |
2:44 pm |
englishraven: |
Public/lecturing space with few or short relationships b/w T->S and S->S = not good for taboo topics #ELTChat |
2:44 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @efl101: @cerirhiannon have to be careful about stepping in the dogme ;-) #eltchat > careful with your innuendos in here! :-) |
2:44 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @janetbianchini: If request comes from students, should we as teachers feel obliged to teach what they want, even if we don't like taboo words? #eltchat |
2:44 pm |
efl101: |
@gregqbear ah yes, possibly more important that! #eltchat |
2:45 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@Marisa_C @englishraven Everyone's friends at the bar! #ELTchat |
2:45 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @janetbianchini: If request comes from students, should we as teachers feel obliged to teach what they want, even if we don't like taboo words? #eltchat |
2:45 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @gregqbear: @efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat -> Right! |
2:46 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @englishraven: RT @gregqbear: @efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat -> Right! > too true! |
2:46 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@janetbianchini Goes back to point re tchrs' comfort - obliged or not, if you're not comfortable, you shudn't teach it #ELTchat |
2:46 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @MartWart: #ELTChat giving students option of using impolite language while being fully aware of the consequences is a must. - Views??? |
2:46 pm |
efl101: |
@janetbianchini good question, possibly yes I think, depending on reaction from other sts #eltchat |
2:47 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: RT @gregqbear: @efl101 The second thing is know thy employer. #eltchat -> Right! |
2:47 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Goes back to point re tchrs' comfort - obliged or not, if you're not comfortable, you shudn't teach it #ELTchat |
2:47 pm |
esolcourses: |
@OUPELTGlobal @Mtranslator @janetbianchini have tried blogging lessons on controversial topics, but get very few takers #eltchat |
2:47 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@OUPELTGlobal :-D #ELTchat |
2:47 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
I want to write Forbidden Topics Discussion Book?but who would publish? Publishers steer clear of taboo subjects?fear loss of sales #ELTchat |
2:48 pm |
englishraven: |
@JoeMcVeigh You're right - publishers avoid anything even remotely taboo in everything they print. Have to, I guess... #ELTChat |
2:48 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @janetbianchini Goes back to point re tchrs' comfort - obliged or not, if you're not comfortable, you shudn't teach it #ELTchat |
2:48 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Perhaps use Swan's page as a lead to get Ss to rank - degrees of rudeness, or profanity, or levels of acceptability #ELTchat - idea here :-) |
2:48 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cerirhiannon @OUPELTGlobal Don't like teaching swear words as don't use them myself. Yes, point them to other sources, but where? #eltchat |
2:49 pm |
efl101: |
@OUPELTGlobal @janetbianchini sorry didn't read properly, if u are not comfortable then no don't teach - I agree with that #eltchat |
2:49 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: Want 2 write Forbidden Topics Discussion Book?but who would publish? Publishers fear taboo subjts #ELTchat > No comment ;-) |
2:49 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: I want to write Forbidden Topics Discussion Book?but who would publish? #ELTchat >no-one, but cld always self-publish online |
2:50 pm |
englishraven: |
So, should 5-level coursebook series for adults at least feature some units on swearing, and taboo topics? I think so. #ELTChat |
2:50 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Remember an elderly colleague bred in a different era who sat through a brawl smiling! Was English! #ELTchat |
2:50 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @englishraven: So, should 5-level coursebook series for adults at least feature some units on swearing, and taboo topics? I think so. #ELTChat |
2:50 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
sorry - a bit late!! Know thy employer indeed. 1 teacher here did a song with swearword & is now labelled as a bit dodgy by mgmnt #ELTChat |
2:50 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon @OUPELTGlobal Yes, point them to other sources, but where? #eltchat > Swan's book? |
2:51 pm |
gregqbear: |
@JoeMcVeigh So if publishers won't touch such topics for fear of sales losses, we don't for fear of job losses. #eltchat |
2:51 pm |
efl101: |
@englishraven probably yes but can see commercial problems #eltchat |
2:51 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
personally feel that taboo topics are part of culture and culture is a big part of learning a language #ELTChat |
2:51 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
Are taboo subjects the same for YLs and adults? #ELTchat my opinion they both have differences. |
2:51 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: @janetbianchini Remember an elderly colleague who sat through a brawl smiling! Was English! #ELTchat> LOL! |
2:51 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@MartWart Have just googled Mugford -captain in the navy 1749?? #eltchat |
2:51 pm |
englishraven: |
Having swearwords/taboo topics in formal unit form would take some of the personal heat/responsibility off teachers... #ELTChat |
2:51 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven Title for the course "Swearyour way into English" Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words #ELTChat |
2:52 pm |
efl101: |
RT @Marisa_C: @janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Remember an elderly colleague bred in a different era who sat through a brawl smiling! Was English! #ELTchat |
2:52 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon Yes, point them to other sources, but where? #eltchat > Swan's book? > Perhaps! #ELTchat |
2:52 pm |
gret: |
RT @ELTExperiences: Are taboo subjects the same for YLs and adults? #ELTchat my opinion they both have differences. #ELTChat |
2:52 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Marisa_C: @englishraven Title for the course "Swearyour way into English" Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words #ELTChat |
2:52 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @bcnpaul1: personally feel that taboo topics are part of culture + culture is a big part of learning a language #ELTChat seconded |
2:53 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cerirhiannon Yes, Swan's book would be a good start, but anything else as well? #ELTchat |
2:53 pm |
englishraven: |
@Marisa_C I love your unit titles by level! (Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words) #ELTChat |
2:53 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
RT @janetbianchini: @cerirhiannon @OUPELTGlobal Teaching swear words but where? #eltchat -> make a list of common swearwords. |
2:53 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @bcnpaul1: feel that taboo topics are part of culture + culture is a big part of learning a language #ELTChat >thirded! |
2:53 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
taboos for YLs - a tricky subject but depends on maturity of kids I guess #ELTChat |
2:53 pm |
efl101: |
@Marisa_C @englishraven v. good or 1 annoy strangers, 2 annoy colleagues, 3 annoy friends, 4 no-ones talking to you ;-) #eltchat |
2:54 pm |
esolcourses: |
@janetbianchini think we should take learners views into account, but we shouldn't feel under any obligation to let them decide #eltchat |
2:54 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C I love your unit titles by level! (Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words) #ELTChat |
2:54 pm |
affreshair: |
RT @Marisa_C: @englishraven Title for the course "Swearyour way into English" Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words #ELTChat |
2:54 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven I should be hired by some publisher then :-D #ELTChat |
2:54 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @efl101: @Marisa_C @englishraven v. good or 1 annoy strangers, 2 annoy colleagues, 3 annoy friends, 4 no-ones talking to you ;-) #eltchat |
2:54 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@Marisa_C @englishraven Level 4 - Bordering on obscenity! #ELTchat |
2:55 pm |
esolcourses: |
RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C I love your unit titles by level! (Level 1 - Mild swearing 2 - Profanity 3 - 4-letter words) #ELTChat :-)) |
2:55 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
How about starting with common L1 compared to L2 swearwords to facilitate a dogme based lesson? Get sts contribute during class. #ELTchat |
2:55 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@OUPELTGlobal Te he he bordering? that's the intemed level - outright obscenity is advanced #ELTchat |
2:55 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
RT @englishraven: Having swearwords/taboo topics in formal unit form would take some of the personal heat/responsibility off teachers... #ELTChat |
2:56 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
sorry, got to go, time to put my mothering hat on - swimming classes call! gr8 convo will catch up with the last 10 mins later on #ELTchat |
2:56 pm |
englishraven: |
I used to demonstrate to YLs the 'gravity' of certain swearwords they used in English for a larf by indicating the L1 equivalent #ELTChat |
2:56 pm |
gregqbear: |
@englishraven Yes but some aspects of culture better not learned. Have to watch potential for cultural imperialism too. #eltchat |
2:56 pm |
Marisa_C: |
With 5 mins to go any bright ideas #ELTchat for practical stuff? E.g. my rude wiki? |
2:57 pm |
englishraven: |
Think it's worth differentiating between EFL and ESL contexts for this one as well #ELTChat |
2:57 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@Marisa_C Maybe level 5 is Room-clearingly offensive :-) #ELTchat |
2:57 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
thx 2 everyone for a gr8 discussion on #ELTchat as always - too many to mention everyone by name! #ELTchat |
2:57 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @gregqbear: @englishraven Yes but some aspects of culture better not learned. Have to watch potential for cultural imperialism too. #eltchat |
2:57 pm |
ELTExperiences: |
@OUPELTGlobal @englishraven @Marisa_C I would hate to know what level 5 swearing would be. ;) #ELTchat |
2:58 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Raniking ? #ELTchat @englishraven I don't like translation for the same reason - if not your L1 #ELTChat |
2:58 pm |
efl101: |
@Marisa_C perhaps videos/podcasts of people talking about taboo topics and then analysis of lang. in class? #eltchat |
2:58 pm |
OUPELTGlobal: |
@ELTExperiences See previous... #ELTchat |
2:58 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
June blog posting of @thornburyscott on taboos very good - also read comments:http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat |
2:58 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Marisa_C: With 5 mins to go any bright ideas #ELTchat for practical stuff? E.g. my rude wiki? |
2:58 pm |
hoprea: |
Sigh... couldn't participate in #ELTChat this morning... hope I can join the afternoon discussion. |
2:58 pm |
englishraven: |
ESLers need to know this stuff much more than most EFLers do, I think... #ELTChat |
2:59 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@esolcourses Absolutely! One teacher I know "went with the flow" and moderated a discussion on taboo words- it was ss' best lesson #eltchat |
2:59 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @efl101: @Marisa_C perhaps videos/podcasts of people talking about taboo topics and then analysis of lang. in class? #eltchat > More! |
2:59 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: June blog posting of @thornburyscott on taboos very good - also read comments:http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat >Agree |
2:59 pm |
esolcourses: |
(Warning - Possibly not safe for work!!!) Hot For Words - ELT site that tackles taboos, rude words, etc http://bit.ly/goSc #eltchat |
2:59 pm |
Marisa_C: |
DVD clips fro films? #ELTChat |
2:59 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @esolcourses: (Warning - Possibly not safe for work!!!) Hot For Words - ELT site that tackles taboos, rude words, etc http://bit.ly/goSc #eltchat |
2:59 pm |
denilsodelima: |
@hoprea Hey, how does that work? #ELTCHAT |
2:59 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the endhttp://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat |
2:59 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden that was supposed to be a joke :-D #ELTchat |
3:00 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @efl101: @Marisa_C perhaps videos/podcasts of people talking about taboo topics and then analysis of lang. in class? #eltchat > More! |
3:00 pm |
JoeMcVeigh: |
@janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESL http://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat |
3:00 pm |
CELT_Athens: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the endhttp://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat |
3:00 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the endhttp://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat |
3:00 pm |
efl101: |
@Marisa_C possibly lessons on eliciting what sts think are taboo for them and then lang. for avoiding discussing them? #eltchat |
3:00 pm |
englishraven: |
@Mtranslator @Marisa_C There can be equivalents in L1 in terms of 'gravity'or impact/level of offence. #ELTChat |
3:01 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
dvd clips using safeshare.tv #ELTChat |
3:01 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: The BC webpage on taboos has some resources listed at the end http://bit.ly/dxE3sP #ELTChat |
3:01 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Rt #JoeMcVeigh June blog posting of @thornburyscott on taboos very good - also read comments:http://bit.ly/cQdm9x #ELTchat -thanks, will do |
3:01 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
oo jokes, are they sort of taboo as well ;-) #ELTChat |
3:01 pm |
englishraven: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: @janetbianchini @cerirhiannon Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESL http://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat |
3:01 pm |
gret: |
@Marisa_C movie clips and songs can be really helpful for teaching taboo topics #ELTChat |
3:01 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @bcnpaul1: dvd clips using safeshare.tv #ELTchat |
3:01 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: @Mtranslator @Marisa_C There can be equivalents in L1 in terms of 'gravity'or impact/level of offence. #ELTChat |
3:02 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@englishraven good for a translators' course actually - trying to find equivalents of similar impact #ELTChat |
3:02 pm |
englishraven: |
Brings us to the end of another #ELTChat - thanks for all your contributions, everyone! |
3:02 pm |
gret: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: dvd clips using safeshare.tv #ELTchat #ELTChat |
3:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESLhttp://bit.ly/ahLMGN #ELTChat z > A ha ha ! Gr8! |
3:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @gret: @Marisa_C movie clips and songs can be really helpful for teaching taboo topics #ELTChat |
3:03 pm |
harrisonmike: |
@englishraven Nooooooo, relevant for all. Wholey believe that. #eltchat |
3:03 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@JoeMcVeigh Thanks! Textbook: Dangerous English: slang, sex, and bathroom terms for ESLhttp://bit.ly/ahLMGN Looks interesting #ELTChat |
3:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @englishraven: Brings us to the end of another #ELTChat - thanks for all your contributions, everyone! . Thank you my co-moderator!:-) |
3:04 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
www.newsbiscuit.com is good for a humorous starting point with news articles #ELTChat |
3:04 pm |
englishraven: |
We didn't 'solve the taboos problem' but I certainly got some valuable perspectives and ideas for classroom practice. #ELTChat |
3:04 pm |
efl101: |
must dash or will miss train then wife will use plenty of taboo words ;-) thanx for gr8 discussion & esp. to moderators #eltchat |
3:05 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @bcnpaul1: www.newsbiscuit.com is good for a humorous starting point with news articles #ELTChat |
3:05 pm |
gret: |
Thanks everyone for a great #ELTChat! |
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