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fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:02:24 |
Hello #ELTchat Is anyone around? |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:03:20 |
Hello #ELTchat, this week is Eid so no work or #slowburn for me. I'm in a cafe with a lovely double espresso. How'r… https://t.co/9KePEV0uDq |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:03:24 |
@fionaljp Hello Fiona! #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:03:42 |
Hi I'm here #ELTchat |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:04:40 |
@fionaljp I'm here for a bit #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:04:42 |
if you were going to work on your CPD, what would you like to discuss, or listen to ? #ELTChat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:05:35 |
@jonjoTESOL Hi Jonjo #ELTchat Thanks for the summary! |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:05:44 |
@fionaljp Are we talking self-directed CPD or programmes in our workplaces? #ELTchat |
EWorld2019 |
2019-06-05T18:06:02 |
@SueAnnan Hello Sue & Jonjo, how are you? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:06:11 |
I think I'd like some tips on teaching teens, especially for teachers who normally work with adults #ELTChat |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:06:58 |
@SueAnnan And how do you decide what areas to work on? #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:07:12 |
@MoreMsJackson Good point #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:07:24 |
@MoreMsJackson @fionaljp Probably more in the workplace, but as we know the one size doesn't fit everyone. Self di… https://t.co/fDc88iQyEi |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:08:08 |
@MoreMsJackson Are we talking generally? @SueAnnan #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:08:37 |
@MoreMsJackson If you can have a hand in the planning it would be better than having CPD enforced. So you could, os… https://t.co/hi7iHOcSLs |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:08:44 |
@SueAnnan I'd love to have a task-based approach to our teaching. We were given a scenario and a set of hypothetica… https://t.co/f5TgbxHIfy |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:09:14 |
@jonjoTESOL That sounds like a really practical thing to look at #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:09:38 |
@fionaljp My pleasure, I love writing! Sorry it's a month overdue. Ramadan had us working from 8pm to 3am which rea… https://t.co/1c5gP0c3IO |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:10:02 |
@EWorld2019 @SueAnnan Good, thanks! #eltchat you? I'm hungry and I might treat myself to a pizza after this chat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:10:39 |
@SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Key issue #ELTchat Teachers need to be consulted and needs considered for workplace CPD to be effective |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:10:53 |
I think I would include ways to use technology more efficiently for some of my colleagues #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:11:29 |
If you had to choose between more planning hours or more CPD hours, what would you choose? #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:11:41 |
@fionaljp @MoreMsJackson I'm 100% with you on that. Some of our CPD is like p*ssing into the wind, or same old same old #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:11:46 |
@jonjoTESOL No worries and well done! #ELTchat |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:12:17 |
RT @fionaljp: @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Key issue #ELTchat Teachers need to be consulted and needs considered for workplace CPD to be effec… |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:12:31 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson I think sometimes management might give Ts opportunities for CPD without asking… https://t.co/amYNRcHRHq |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:12:48 |
@jonjoTESOL I like CPD if it hits the spot, but planning is also important. Mmm, difficult choice #ELTchat |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:13:20 |
Great question #ELTchat https://t.co/2xrrFfr7Rm |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:13:28 |
@jonjoTESOL @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson Is that because the CPD eats into their time? #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:14:11 |
@SueAnnan I agree you with that CPD can be hit or miss. #ELTchat I attended a webinar by these 2 women. I swear a t… https://t.co/PDmhcYzU1W |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:15:26 |
@jonjoTESOL I think webinars are different. You can decide to switch off if you don't feel that it is useful… https://t.co/ZZN1EDXWYy |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:15:31 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson Maybe so - I think sometimes they don't see the value (rightly or wrongly so). P… https://t.co/rA7MtNbLD9 |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:16:31 |
As accessible as they are, I find webinars usually miss the mark with me. Lack of engagement or too long winded? I… https://t.co/PNCYvgaxw2 |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:16:50 |
@jonjoTESOL @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson We have more problems with the women teachers who always have more important t… https://t.co/M3RefVu4rO |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:18:21 |
@jonjoTESOL IATEFL BESIG has a full day symposium coming up. Each country BE group has 30 mins to discuss their sit… https://t.co/hrhtMIAX7M |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:18:58 |
@jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Exactly they don't see the value’ #ELTchat probably because they haven’t been… https://t.co/AV2Vfwt9jZ |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:20:00 |
Have you ever watched webinars together as part of a CPD programme? There are a few good ones out there, but it is… https://t.co/b00g1W2YoZ |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:20:15 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson I'm not sure about your part of the world, but I know some teachers just want ££… https://t.co/Uo76bjuzkR |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:20:57 |
@jonjoTESOL @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson :-( #ELTchat |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:21:07 |
@jonjoTESOL Yes, webinars are so often long winded. They can be interesting but no so useful. #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:21:11 |
@SueAnnan Unless a live webinar and you can interact #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:21:37 |
@SueAnnan I've never heard of this. Sit with your colleagues, watch it, discuss it in person after? Why do you think it's static? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:22:05 |
@fionaljp That sounds more like a workshop to me. But I agree. IF you are just watching, it can be deadly #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:22:58 |
@jonjoTESOL Because the colleagues don't want to discuss it. They want to go home #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:23:17 |
@jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson I think there would be more chance or they might be more willing if they were… https://t.co/CUq6a7uctA |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:23:47 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp And then the phones and social media come out because they got bored.. #ELTchat |
EWorld2019 |
2019-06-05T18:24:01 |
@jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson Do you see a difference in terms of motivation when CPD is done in t… https://t.co/E6yikM0QZJ |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:25:18 |
@EWorld2019 @jonjoTESOL @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson I think the live events have more currency with my colleagues. #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:26:21 |
@jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan Well, technology does provide an opportunity for personalised for CPD of course - self-directed #ELTchat |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:26:28 |
@fionaljp @jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan You have to ask the right questions, though. Not everyone knows what CPD they want… https://t.co/Yir3J4lgh4 |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:27:16 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Yes, definitely. #eltchat However, some Ts don't see teaching as permanent. They… https://t.co/G14QGq9RCK |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:27:31 |
@MoreMsJackson @jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan Yes, very true #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:27:41 |
@MoreMsJackson @fionaljp @jonjoTESOL Yes. We did that this time around. We ended up with 10 topics and told teacher… https://t.co/rWpDKjdAPJ |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:28:46 |
@EWorld2019 @SueAnnan @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson Good question - I think in-person training always wins. I'm guilty o… https://t.co/jVhsGGBjOY |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:29:42 |
@jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Do you think workplace CPD should be voluntary for those who do want to develop? #ELTchat |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:29:44 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp @jonjoTESOL All about the choice. Choosing the topics, choosing which to engage with, choosing… https://t.co/k7PjcJjcOi |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:30:34 |
@fionaljp @jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan Some of it, but not all of it #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:31:01 |
@fionaljp @jonjoTESOL @MoreMsJackson voluntary-ishI think it is a British Council requirement to offer CPD and exp… https://t.co/uD7bPleiZC |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:31:37 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson No, for me, just the opposite! But, like teaching, training needs to be 'learner… https://t.co/PB5NiBDv6c |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:31:58 |
@jonjoTESOL @EWorld2019 @SueAnnan @fionaljp Training and teaching are similar but different skills. I've mentored a… https://t.co/QZj29Al4EK |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:32:06 |
@MoreMsJackson @jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan How would you differentiate? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:32:16 |
@jonjoTESOL @fionaljp @MoreMsJackson I like CPD with takeaways I can try out in the classroom #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:33:19 |
@SueAnnan @jonjoTESOL @MoreMsJackson This is ideal CPD as relevant to teaching context #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:33:20 |
@SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson @fionaljp I like it. We all want student centered learning, what about trainee centered tr… https://t.co/wgzRVjvyjS |
MoreMsJackson |
2019-06-05T18:35:25 |
@fionaljp @jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan There are different ways - set a minimum, set a core CPD programme, or core session… https://t.co/039mpZiUPC |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:35:50 |
Have any of you had a teacher go to a conference and then effectively repeat the conference when they got back to y… https://t.co/XBBvorY3nD |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:35:56 |
I ended up doing a CPD session off the cuff when our visiting speaker did her back in just before coming to us. The… https://t.co/2xb266DTyn |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:37:03 |
@jonjoTESOL I hate that. You feel obliged to go to sessions to benefit the others, rather than your own preferences… https://t.co/F9gLc9pi77 |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:37:37 |
I think it’s a good idea to encourage teachers to share things that have worked well in the classroom with colleagu… https://t.co/Tjlxr2GmJt |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:38:04 |
@SueAnnan Brings a new meaning to sing for your supper #eltchat :-) |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:38:44 |
@fionaljp a swap shop of ideas would be a good, valuable, use of the time #ELTChat Great Idea#ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:39:02 |
@SueAnnan I agree - some sessions I went to this year were about issues/philosophy in the ELT world. Not very relev… https://t.co/aH1xAbxRjA |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:39:46 |
@jonjoTESOL Luckily I knew what I knew :-) But our new manager was also there so it was a bit of a strain at first #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:39:52 |
Shall we discuss possible CPD topics? #ELTchat Sue mentioned using technology more effectively in the classroom |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:40:20 |
and teaching teens #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:41:51 |
@fionaljp How easy is it for teachers to overly agree with each other with fear of being critical? You don't want t… https://t.co/axebP8Q77i |
EWorld2019 |
2019-06-05T18:42:07 |
@jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan are we talking about CPD accredited courses or just informal sessions? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:42:23 |
@EWorld2019 @jonjoTESOL Both #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:43:02 |
@EWorld2019 @jonjoTESOL Or just teachers with experience helping each other to grow #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:44:41 |
@jonjoTESOL Not sure I know what you mean. If something works well for you in the classroom it’s a nice idea to share isn’t it? #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:44:43 |
CPD wise - I'd love more constructive feedback on my teaching practice. Difficult to set up, I know. I need more pr… https://t.co/4mJLEXawTi |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:45:35 |
WE get one visiting speaker per year and the rest is down to the teachers themselves. Sometimes familiarity can bre… https://t.co/lpHUz92XHL |
EWorld2019 |
2019-06-05T18:47:07 |
@SueAnnan @jonjoTESOL thank you for the clarification #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:47:49 |
@jonjoTESOL could you video yourself and share it for comments? we could do the same and it might help #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:48:10 |
@jonjoTESOL Not really. Focused observation might help. Both being observed and observing others in that specific a… https://t.co/5iqLQO9gYS |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:48:28 |
@fionaljp I think it's difficult for a T to assess whether something is both fun/positive and educational in the lo… https://t.co/kluo3tcbfM |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:48:31 |
@fionaljp @jonjoTESOL LOL #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:49:27 |
@jonjoTESOL Oh dear! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:50:09 |
@jonjoTESOL @fionaljp I always finished a class by asking for 3 things they learned that they didn't know before, t… https://t.co/fhvQ8hrFSu |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:50:23 |
@SueAnnan Scary but doable! #eltchat you're calling my bluff now :-D |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:51:05 |
@jonjoTESOL We could keep it reasonably secret if it makes you feel better #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:52:58 |
We are only a few minutes away from starting the slowburn mode. Would anyone like to write up this summary? #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:53:11 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp Yes, I like that idea. Quality CCQs and forming an atmosphere of growing, mistakes, and not kno… https://t.co/US8NMxgcEG |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:55:08 |
@jonjoTESOL @fionaljp I do it regularly. You need to leave 5-6 minutes towards the end of the lesson, but it is valuable time #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T18:56:35 |
An interesting chat tonight. Thanks everyone for the comments.This is CPD at its best for all of us.#ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T18:58:03 |
@SueAnnan @jonjoTESOL I meant not really difficult to set up feedback on teaching #ELTchat |
jonjoTESOL |
2019-06-05T18:59:00 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan oh, phew. #eltchat :-) |
SueAnnan |
2019-06-05T19:00:04 |
Well, I'm off to have dinner and plan my lessons for tomorrow. It has been, as always, a pleasure to share the hour… https://t.co/lH0CPdmnAS |
fionaljp |
2019-06-05T19:06:26 |
@SueAnnan Yes, and maybe we can have more CPD topic ideas in the slowburn #ELTchat Thanks & bye for now |
EWorld2019 |
2019-06-05T19:07:46 |
@SueAnnan Thank you for sharing your ideas on the topic, always an enjoyable learning experience for me as a trainee #ELTchat |
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