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| HeleneCombe |
2018-05-30T07:42:01 |
Most of the time I don’t have the time to join #eltchat but considering the subject, I’ll manage ! https://t.co/oE9lmbLFhj |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T12:17:42 |
Today at 8pm Paris time we'll chat about Native and Non-Native Speaker Teachers https://t.co/iLZInUqT7r #DU18chat #ELTchat #NNST |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T17:33:51 |
Native and non-native teachers in about 30 mins #ELTchat - What does each side bring to the ELT classroom? What ca… https://t.co/d5iKOvXdOx |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T17:53:32 |
Check out our call for tonight's topic on the #ELTchat blog here https://t.co/bJvhKZUJcJ We have revisited the to… https://t.co/2qpx5JwvUC |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T17:55:48 |
Are you ready @CsillaBenn and friends? #ELTchat Try to send a high on the #ELTchat timeline pls |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T17:57:09 |
Hello from Grenoble #DUELTchat #ELTchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T17:59:59 |
#DU18chat teachers, please sign in if you are here #ELTchat |
| Slhotel1 |
2018-05-30T18:01:53 |
#ELTchat Hello Csilla. I'm Sabine LHOTELLIER |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:02:30 |
evening #ELTchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:02:56 |
Hi #ELTchat and #DU18chat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:03:44 |
Hi Csilla and friends #ELTchat |
| aBeeOnThePeony |
2018-05-30T18:04:20 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat Hello Csilla, Marie-Hélène THIERY tweeting from Chambéry |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:04:45 |
@Slhotel1 @SueAnnan @aBeeOnThePeony Welcome to #ELTchat all the way from Athens anyone else logging in? |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:05:21 |
@grebaux @CsillaBenn @ELTchat Hello and welcome!! Do remember to typr #ELTchat on every tweet so you are visible on our chat timeline |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:05:33 |
#DU18chat #ELTchat Hello this is Pascale. |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:05:39 |
DIna hi #ELTchat https://t.co/RCpZnASLIj |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T18:06:18 |
@CsillaBenn Hi Csilla! Thanks for organizing this #DU18chat #ELTchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:06:20 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat teachers from France, pls use the #ELTchat hashtag for your messages as well |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:06:29 |
@Pascalune12 Hi Pascale - a warm welcome! #eltchat remember to type the hashtag on every tweet - just copy and keep in ur clipboard |
| 381Clarita |
2018-05-30T18:06:42 |
#ELTchat hello, Claire from Grenoble |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:06:59 |
@381Clarita Hello! I am on #ELTChat and I wait and see what the discussion is about... |
| Sidgard73 |
2018-05-30T18:07:02 |
#ELTchat hello everybody |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:07:08 |
@381Clarita #eltchat welcomes u Clarita |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:07:17 |
wow. Nice to see so many visitors to #ELTchat from La Belle France |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:08:02 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat can we start talking about tonight's topic @Marisa_C |
| RacchioMaria |
2018-05-30T18:08:22 |
#DU18Chat #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:08:58 |
@CsillaBenn Certainly - let's get this show on the road! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:10:27 |
I work in a school which has no problems with non-native speakers being employed. However, I just realised that all… https://t.co/lTWgvWUskb |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:10:30 |
The topic tonight has been one of high interest recently and a lot has been written about it. #eltchat I thought i… https://t.co/Dg5PoRugyM |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:10:53 |
#DU18chat #eltchat What difference can you see between native and non-native teachers? |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:11:16 |
#ELTChat #DU18chat Good evening everybody! |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:11:18 |
@Marisa_C Lots of good discussion has certainly made a difference #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:12:36 |
@CsillaBenn non-native teachers often have a greater understanding of grammar and can use their experience to help their learners #ELTchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:13:28 |
#DU18chat #eltchat there is a big difference between state schools and private language schools, at least in France. |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:14:27 |
@CsillaBenn Do private language schools prefer native speakers? Is is cheaper to hire them? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:14:32 |
@SueAnnan @CsillaBenn Each one of you partiicipating is either native or non-native. What good things do you contri… https://t.co/QFnkubZAXe |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:15:07 |
A big advantage is that NNS teachers all have experience learning a foreign language @SueAnnan #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:15:23 |
@Marisa_C @CsillaBenn I contribute empathy, and I share what I know #ELTchat |
| RacchioMaria |
2018-05-30T18:15:35 |
State schools favour French teachers, the private sector prefers native speakers #DU18Chat #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:15:56 |
Thanks #eltchat - a great contribution https://t.co/MQ5t83Hmji |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:16:07 |
@RacchioMaria Is it because they can get away with paying less? #ELTchat |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:16:31 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat Is is it not a form of snobbism to be in search of Native Teachers only? |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T18:16:34 |
#DU18chat #ELTchat Should we really focus on nativeness when most of the people who speak English are non native speakers today? |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:17:31 |
Doesn't it depend on your students' needs too? @grebaux #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:17:32 |
@Pascalune12 Of course it is. And it should be a matter of employing the best people for the job, regardless #ELTchat |
| 381Clarita |
2018-05-30T18:18:05 |
#ELTchat I have the feeling we don't get many chances to have a job in the private sector as a NNS. But to be fair,… https://t.co/6xn2simk3H |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:18:33 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat I agree Maria. I think it is unfortunately the case with the Chamber of Commerce (private sector… https://t.co/7athFQrWNx |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:18:41 |
Good point - the demand for NS only comes from the Ss as well #eltchat not just the schools https://t.co/SqiKO45xSx |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:18:47 |
#ELTchat when I worked in Poland we had tandem teaching so each class had 2 teachers. NS & NNS. Students appreciated having both |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:19:03 |
#ELTchat could you also add the hashtag #DU18chat to your tweets? This is our group's hashtag |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T18:19:49 |
@CsillaBenn #DU18chat #eltchat Well, state schools hire French teachers whereas private language schools hire native speakers! |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:20:19 |
I have worked in schools with the same system - not sure if it's the combination or the fact the Ss had more hours… https://t.co/TGIADERJMM |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:20:43 |
Did you ever ask what they got from the two types? @koomska #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:20:52 |
#ELTchat (hashtag!) https://t.co/ANdNILbGIQ |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:21:18 |
@Slhotel1 @Marisa_C @ELTchat Hi! Nice to have you here. #DU18chat #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:21:51 |
Asking the Ss before a course and after a course are two different things - I think schools only ask before… https://t.co/vkk8kmoGGG |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:22:08 |
Speaking as a native trainer, I do not feel any better equipped to train than Marisa, who isn't a native . In fact… https://t.co/pKUTLy1m4S |
| aBeeOnThePeony |
2018-05-30T18:22:12 |
#ELTchat #DU18chatCo-teaching is very interesting |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:23:08 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat Is the Native Non Native Debate as important all over the world as it is in France? |
| GioLic1976 |
2018-05-30T18:23:13 |
Hi there #ELTchat. Traveling but following. |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:23:14 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat I think students could see benefits of different strengths if teachers worked well together. |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:23:49 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat I think each school should have both as they bring different skills and approaches to learning the language |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:23:55 |
@Pascalune12 unfortunately, yes in many places #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| Sidgard73 |
2018-05-30T18:23:58 |
#DU18Chat #ELTchat Language is innate for a native speaker. To me, It has its pros & cons. For instance, if you nee… https://t.co/TQzUkG0TIb |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:24:06 |
@SueAnnan I think @SueAnnan (and thanks for the compliment BTW) has more good functional intuitions than me - but I… https://t.co/bB4khQIC8k |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:24:57 |
@grebaux How do you think this could be changed? #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:25:03 |
@koomska We could be helping each other more #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:25:28 |
@Marisa_C In which case, the idea of the shared resource is a good one. Perhaps we should be working together more as standard #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:26:25 |
@CsillaBenn @grebaux Well, participating in forums such as this, connecting with Ts worldwide is a great way to sta… https://t.co/f3tir1iNiJ |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:26:49 |
WE do occasionally have students who turn up their nose at getting a non native teacher, but they are few and far between #eltchat #DU18chat |
| GioLic1976 |
2018-05-30T18:26:49 |
@SueAnnan In fact, I'm not sure how we would define native-speakerism and how we could focus on what these supposed… https://t.co/0yJ5T115Ws |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:26:53 |
@Pascalune12 Yes, it is. Spain is very similar to France but even in countries like hawaï it is an issue #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:27:11 |
@SueAnnan Yes, agree fully - why we are here as well - spreading the word about communicating and learning from each other #ELTChat |
| 381Clarita |
2018-05-30T18:28:02 |
#ELTchat why are we so convinced a native teacher is a better teacher??.. where does that come from ? |
| Sidgard73 |
2018-05-30T18:28:11 |
#ELTchat I can speak French very good because I'm French right ? But am I going to be a good teacher of French ? I… https://t.co/L88STLF2Fe |
| RacchioMaria |
2018-05-30T18:28:18 |
I’ve found a lot of clients want a native speaker but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are a good teacher. And u… https://t.co/EccLLRtu9c |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:28:24 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C I agree. Learning from other teachers and accepting we all have things to offer. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:28:41 |
@GioLic1976 @SueAnnan Perhaps we could try to pinpoint what it is that DOS's and Ss seem to want NS 's more? #ELTChat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:29:52 |
@Marisa_C @GioLic1976 In China, it is a marketing tool for schools to have a NS. But they have to have the right lo… https://t.co/A4FHWavip7 |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T18:30:20 |
#DU18chat #eltchat I have been lucky enough to be hired by a private language school and the Chamber of Commerce b… https://t.co/ZZf82Qp0i8 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:30:29 |
My personal feeling is that there is still a lot of xenomania out there https://t.co/g7w73HueDW imposed by TV and… https://t.co/fva3x01W3g |
| aBeeOnThePeony |
2018-05-30T18:30:49 |
#DU18chat #ELTchatFrench state schools have NN teachers but they welcome native language assistants (or they should be) |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:31:40 |
@koomska @Marisa_C #ELTchat #DU18chat I guess it is the interest of having different people, with different approac… https://t.co/opiFyKBxA7 |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:32:21 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @GioLic1976 Oh yes when I was in China, selection was often based on how teacher looked in phot… https://t.co/1nmYJNBzXJ |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:32:24 |
Accent is one thing that people falsely believe is best transmitted by NS only #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:32:50 |
We have a group of students from France this week, with their teachers. They are all elementary, after years of Eng… https://t.co/oaaQ0Y8dm8 |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:33:59 |
@Marisa_C wot? Actually I had a listening exercise with a NS from the Black Country today. MY students got one word… https://t.co/N6UmwEDOqz |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:34:10 |
@SueAnnan I was just going to say that! The level of English to enter the teaching profession is very low in some c… https://t.co/dkkhwRGs7D |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:34:18 |
@AnaCarpentier59 @SueAnnan #ELTchat #DU18chat very often native speakers are said to be less good at teaching gramm… https://t.co/Dwvd34kbMA |
| AstierStephanie |
2018-05-30T18:34:24 |
#DU18Chat #ELTChat When native English speakers are paired with NN teachers, students have the best of both worlds. |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:35:35 |
@CsillaBenn @AnaCarpentier59 @SueAnnan In monolingual classes the NNS is better able to predict some of the learner… https://t.co/Wav3cEsRWL |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:35:39 |
@CsillaBenn @AnaCarpentier59 Non natives are good at finding strategies to help #ELTChat #DU18chat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:37:03 |
@ELTC_TD When you are native it's called linguistic imperialism or superiority over the natives in the grass skirts… https://t.co/y2gWIJuqTL |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:37:54 |
@CsillaBenn @AnaCarpentier59 Unfortunately , this is a generalisation which can do more harm than good. I have had… https://t.co/LMtE3GLxyD |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:37:54 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat some schools divide the course between native and non-native teachers and they teach different t… https://t.co/qW14ypS9gP |
| GioLic1976 |
2018-05-30T18:37:55 |
@Marisa_C Identity certainly has a big role. Clearly a greater one than a teacher's place of birth. It would be int… https://t.co/5Qof6lM22p |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:38:43 |
@CsillaBenn JUdging by this week, I would say that approach could be justified #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:39:00 |
No I was thinking more along the lines of NS teachers who doesn't match the idea students have of what a NS teacher is like. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:39:22 |
The NNS local teacher can be more sensitive to what might create cultural- clashes or offend Ss' values and belief… https://t.co/VvpZZLhbu3 |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:39:43 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat I guess it is harder for Native Teachers to understand certain students difficulties (pronunciat… https://t.co/mOr5LNFX8D |
| RacchioMaria |
2018-05-30T18:40:00 |
Non natives are better at understanding and advising on the French education system, because we don’t just teach En… https://t.co/7d2DXk28BB |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:40:41 |
I used to work with someone who thought that ANYONE from the UK was a representative of sth superior. Not true!! #ELTchat |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:40:44 |
@CsillaBenn I think it depends on the teachers and generalisations can be dangerous. #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:40:47 |
@Pascalune12 That's why we have books like Learner English to help #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:41:10 |
@Marisa_C I am :-) #ELTChat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:41:16 |
@SueAnnan I've heard natives complain about this. They considered the communication class "less serious" #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T18:41:58 |
#DU18chat #ELTchat NNESTs are usually better at grammar and they're conscious of the differences between the nativ… https://t.co/wErTx0WU4C |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:42:01 |
@CsillaBenn But then they can't communicate? Is that better? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:42:02 |
@SueAnnan te he he i can see your halo all the way from Athens!!!! #ELTChat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:42:21 |
@koomska Yes, you are right. What we need is good teachers! #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:42:25 |
By NNS do we all mean NNS who are the same nationality as the learners? #eltchat @SueAnnan @Marisa_C |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:43:41 |
@ELTC_TD Good point. Some students and school managers have expectations of what their NS teacher will be like. Whe… https://t.co/byJqi4pJXC |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:43:47 |
@ELTC_TD @Marisa_C Good question. I don't think that always applies #ELTchat We have a Hungarian teacher. A lovely… https://t.co/dS2nMKJe0Y |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:43:56 |
This is true in some ways and not others - NNS are often well versed in morphological rules and able to explain mor… https://t.co/LZf1XUKqnU |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:44:38 |
Do the same things you have mentioned apply if Chinese students learn English with a teacher who is neither Chinese nor English? #eltchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:45:15 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat At some places, they also give different level classes/groups to NS and NNS teachers. Again it's… https://t.co/pGYiD8XSSb |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:46:00 |
@ELTC_TD I don't know enough about what Chinese Ss want but I have a great trainee (Greek) who went to China and be… https://t.co/RaJ91TzylE |
| whatiselt |
2018-05-30T18:46:01 |
@SueAnnan @CsillaBenn @AnaCarpentier59 #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:46:32 |
@CsillaBenn Interesting. I think the best teachers should be with the low level students, it's far easier to work at higher levels #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:47:19 |
All I am saying is that a good teacher given the opportunity, will do a great job whether NS or NNS #eltchat - but… https://t.co/utFC7FGkIv |
| AstierStephanie |
2018-05-30T18:47:20 |
#eltchat #DU18chat Teachers should be judged on their skills (class management, teaching..) and not on their nationality |
| RacchioMaria |
2018-05-30T18:47:25 |
I think the main difficulty for NESTs is discipline in schools, although this is not an issue in companies #DU18Chat #ELTChat |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T18:47:48 |
#DU18chat #ELTchat Obviously NESTs have a better accent. Being a native speaker does not necessarily mean that the… https://t.co/73DdbqgBGt |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:47:59 |
AND their language skills and knowledge #ELTchat https://t.co/5XqF7qOX1J |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:48:03 |
I think we can agree that good teachers are what students should be asking for. Really their nationality ought not… https://t.co/Be8cnQCfgH |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:48:42 |
@CsillaBenn #ELTchat #DU18chat I think what should really matter is the tools used and the quality of teaching. It… https://t.co/XftCxdMEdW |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:49:28 |
@SueAnnan @CsillaBenn #ELTchat I’ve argued this on many an occasion. Was once told putting a DELTA qualified T with… https://t.co/ARjxlFYFpv |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:49:40 |
@Pascalune12 @CsillaBenn Agree! I would hate to work like this and be made to feel like I am not enough! #eltchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:49:41 |
@Pascalune12 Yes, I agree, but it happens. #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:50:29 |
@koomska @SueAnnan @CsillaBenn SO right! #eltchat - same happens here - least experienced untrained ppl asked to te… https://t.co/YKGiVQcWqo |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:51:29 |
@Marisa_C @koomska @CsillaBenn Yes. It is a bizarre policy. I expect the DOS thinks they don't have enough language to complain #ELTChat |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:52:17 |
Might students (beginners) have a preference not necessarily for NS but just teachers who can understand their L1? #eltchat |
| whatiselt |
2018-05-30T18:52:53 |
@Marisa_C I agree with @Marisa_C. Language awareness and command shouldn't be overlooked. It's important for all t… https://t.co/eadPCM7OqG |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:52:56 |
@Marisa_C @koomska @SueAnnan #ELTchat #DU18chat damages T's self-confidence which impacts students' self confidence |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:52:58 |
@ELTC_TD Not necessarily. And in a mixed group class, that could be tricky #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:53:34 |
I think YL's are comforted when the T can say sth in their L1 occasionally but they are at the best age to acquire… https://t.co/gn8jyf7yX2 |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T18:54:09 |
@ELTC_TD Think understanding them as learners is more important. #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T18:54:25 |
@CsillaBenn #ELTchat #DU18chat Is this why teenagers are usually get Non Native Teachers? I think regardless of the… https://t.co/HYgUK4rzxR |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:54:44 |
@koomska @ELTC_TD and having empathy and patience as they are learning #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:55:26 |
@Pascalune12 @CsillaBenn Agree - an enthusiastic AND knowledgeable teacher is the ideal combination #ELTChat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T18:55:42 |
@Pascalune12 yYou are so right! Motivated teachers can motivate students #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T18:55:45 |
@koomska Yes I agree. Just thinking maybe how I'd feel as a learner of a foreign language. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:56:36 |
Some years ago I did some research on who Ss considered an ideal teacher. NS vs NNS NEVER came up as a characterist… https://t.co/RCqlWGVjs0 |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:56:40 |
@ELTC_TD @koomska You might learn faster if you learn gently in the L2 #ELTchat |
| josephpiechura |
2018-05-30T18:57:47 |
@Marisa_C @CsillaBenn @AnaCarpentier59 @SueAnnan Assuming they share the L1 of the learners. This is the problem wi… https://t.co/AygwF7uVzh |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T18:58:19 |
Adult Ss mentioned 'competent language users_ that's all Here is the post https://t.co/cjtIlICPht #ELTChat |
| whatiselt |
2018-05-30T18:58:39 |
@grebaux I see your point, @grebaux, but there is linguistic prejudice even among regional accents and English vari… https://t.co/nas1hu3d2q |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T18:58:46 |
In the dying moments of the chat, I'd like to ask if anyone would like to write a summary of the convo. I'll send y… https://t.co/PdJW6SDOwO |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:00:22 |
This was a rich and lively #ELTchat - perhaps your trainees would like to collaborate and write up the summaru @CsillaBenn ? |
| whatiselt |
2018-05-30T19:00:40 |
@josephpiechura @Marisa_C @CsillaBenn @AnaCarpentier59 @SueAnnan Maybe we should strike out the word "better" and m… https://t.co/NW9FwBLWBt |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:00:45 |
@SueAnnan a collaborative summary can be written by #DU18chat participants #ELTchat here https://t.co/mU7c2voowQ |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T19:01:16 |
@381Clarita #ELTchat #DU18chat Did you get that discussion with Scottish people teaching French? Did they feel discriminated as well? |
| whatiselt |
2018-05-30T19:01:24 |
@Marisa_C That is refreshing! ❤ #eltchat |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T19:01:26 |
#DU18chat #ELTchat How can we deal with discrimination? |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:01:39 |
#DU18chat participants can write up a collaborative summary here https://t.co/mU7c2voowQ #ELTchat https://t.co/P29iWuCPCf |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T19:02:27 |
@CsillaBenn That would be great. I'll send you the transcript tomorrow evening. #ELTChat #DU18chat |
| koomska |
2018-05-30T19:02:37 |
Great conversation see you next week! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:02:37 |
What a perfect answer!!! #ELTChat Thank you all #DU18chat ppl for joining us today, We hope to see you again soon… https://t.co/lbJouTHnXx |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T19:02:57 |
Thanks for chatting everyone. Have a good evening. #eltchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:02:58 |
@Marisa_C Yes, it's more a political question that schools use for marketing purposes #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| josephpiechura |
2018-05-30T19:03:19 |
@Marisa_C Socially appropriate according to whose definition though? If your students are mainly speaking to other… https://t.co/deZZFLoBeH |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T19:03:38 |
@Marisa_C do you do a poll for the topic each week? I can't seem to find it ever....... #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:03:47 |
@whatiselt Also true of all of our adult classes #ELTChat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T19:04:05 |
Thanks #DU18chat for joining with your thought provoking questions and answers. Look forward to you joining in again. #ELTchat |
| RacchioMaria |
2018-05-30T19:04:43 |
Thanks everyone #DU18Chat #ELTChat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-05-30T19:04:44 |
goodnight everyone #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:04:47 |
@ELTC_TD Not every week - I was #ELTchat DJ for May - did a couple of polls but don't always have enough suggestion… https://t.co/Ve9yemwjK0 |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:05:14 |
@Marisa_C The guidelines would be great! Thank you again! #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| josephpiechura |
2018-05-30T19:05:16 |
@Pascalune12 @CsillaBenn I'd honestly guess that a lot of this might be down to classroom discipline. It can be har… https://t.co/L2HIccamPz |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T19:05:30 |
@Marisa_C @CsillaBenn @Pascalune12 #DU18chat #ELTchat Absolutely! Being a good teacher requires more than knowledg… https://t.co/eYE6kPQgKK |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:05:59 |
You have a lovely group of trainees @Csilla and you should be commended for getting them out on Twitter!!! #ELTchat… https://t.co/XVNZFgT2Rc |
| ELTC_TD |
2018-05-30T19:06:11 |
I was thinking about intercultural harmony as a topic. Or have you done that? @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| whatiselt |
2018-05-30T19:06:39 |
@josephpiechura @Marisa_C Excellent point! Being NS or NNS doesn't really mean an advantage or disadvantage in term… https://t.co/YvvBcwozt3 |
| muranava |
2018-05-30T19:06:55 |
@Marisa_C the questions asked in such research directs respondents questions; e.g. in two Fr surveys "I'd rather ha… https://t.co/c5wlQgyFmw |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:07:01 |
@ELTC_TD can;t remember off the top of my head but if you search the summary page (CTRL F) you can see if #ELTchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:07:57 |
@Marisa_C @csilla Yes, they are wonderful trainees and they like challenges. This was first-time twitter session fo… https://t.co/3B7iEXntqM |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:08:05 |
@muranava I didn't ask that question - perhaps it's the question that suggests the answer. #ELtchat |
| Sidgard73 |
2018-05-30T19:08:23 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat Good night everybody then ? |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T19:08:34 |
@CsillaBenn @Marisa_C #ELTchat #DU18chat Then we are just another market product. Sad... |
| josephpiechura |
2018-05-30T19:08:46 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @koomska @CsillaBenn Or are less likely to ask difficult questions that a beginner teacher migh… https://t.co/u1Os5Egtez |
| Sidgard73 |
2018-05-30T19:09:21 |
#ELTchat #DU18chat Thank you everybody for this little chat :) |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:09:58 |
For the next 20 hours or so #ELTchat goes on #slowburn mode and anyone who would like to contribute ideas or contin… https://t.co/Okwn8S77Z3 |
| grebaux |
2018-05-30T19:10:58 |
@Marisa_C #DU18chat #ELTChat That's interesting! Are there many NSs in your country? |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:11:13 |
@Pascalune12 @Marisa_C Until we prove that teaching is not question of passport but depends on qualification, knowl… https://t.co/AFJmvqvSnb |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T19:11:13 |
@SueAnnan @CsillaBenn #ELTchat #DU18chat So we will be able to read the tweets altogether thanks to the transcript?… https://t.co/Wsz6JFvkMF |
| josephpiechura |
2018-05-30T19:11:33 |
@Marisa_C I asked my students this week to come up with ideas for their ideal course (times, length, etc) to be del… https://t.co/p65fgK4bx2 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:11:54 |
For example, do you think that for very advanced levels a NS has an advantage over a NNS? If not, what preconditio… https://t.co/0SgWefEsTN |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:13:28 |
@grebaux Quite a few NS Ts here but the majority is NNS - getting more difficult for rogue untrained NS to find wor… https://t.co/i2C7im65Mh |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:13:57 |
@Pascalune12 @SueAnnan #DU18chat if you liked this chat, #ELTchat has one every Wednesday evening at the same hour.… https://t.co/fS6LthtCgt |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:16:17 |
Good night all and see you next week!!! Same time same screen near you ! Just type #ELTchat and we will magically appear :-D |
| Pascalune12 |
2018-05-30T19:16:18 |
@josephpiechura @CsillaBenn #ELTchat #DU18chat To tell the truth, I feel like speaking their native language doesn'… https://t.co/AhmKq6es4m |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:17:03 |
@Pascalune12 @josephpiechura @CsillaBenn Te he he... so true!!! #ELTChat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:18:08 |
@Pascalune12 @josephpiechura The same can be said about adults on company courses. #ELTchat #DU18chat |
| josephpiechura |
2018-05-30T19:18:45 |
@Marisa_C Admittedly your research was probably more in depth than my 15 minutes at the beginning of class. #ELTchat |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:20:42 |
@Marisa_C what is your deadline for the summary of this #ELTchat ? |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:21:04 |
@CsillaBenn Two weeks ok? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-30T19:22:50 |
@josephpiechura My research was only interim intended to yield categories to then do in a more organised fashion. T… https://t.co/JjRiNotTQh |
| josephpiechura |
2018-05-30T19:25:41 |
@Marisa_C Still more than my 14. #ELTchat |
| largoadios |
2018-05-30T19:28:12 |
#ELTchat where I work, native teachers usually teach higher levels. B1(+). Shouldn’t NTs be able to teach EFL even… https://t.co/3HXW8gQ3rZ |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:32:43 |
@SueAnnan Thanks @Sue for accepting us. It was a great initiation to the Twitter PLN world. Hopefully they will joi… https://t.co/IHeOm3JtAl |
| CsillaBenn |
2018-05-30T19:33:44 |
@SueAnnan We will send you a summary by 12 June. It will be written collaboratively by my trainees. #ELTchat |
| muranava |
2018-05-30T19:46:21 |
@josephpiechura @Pascalune12 @CsillaBenn beyond the humour, this point hints at the plurilingual-pluricultural (in… https://t.co/N17m3Znv01 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-31T06:14:00 |
@CsillaBenn @SueAnnan Please share this writers' guidelines page link amongst your trainees. This will help them wr… https://t.co/6tCjzPirty |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:21:55 |
@ELTC_TD @SueAnnan Specifically the foreign language they are teaching (plenty of NS English teachers have studied/… https://t.co/InCWkUk0R3 |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:23:20 |
@Pascalune12 I think "snobbism" is a pretty good word for something present in a lot of this - and its source can v… https://t.co/5NjDwmX6Ug |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:25:07 |
@grebaux Many people would ask / are asking this Q nowadays...and I think it's good. Also, we should expect *slow*… https://t.co/maLWsRYg7s |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:28:36 |
@CsillaBenn I agree #ELTchat Ideally we both distinguish & don't distinguish between NS + NNS simultaneously, for c… https://t.co/YHkBkI6477 |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:31:20 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @GioLic1976 Similar here in Thailand, where superficial characteristics outweigh other things.… https://t.co/3d8tfDFa9h |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:32:52 |
@Marisa_C @ELTC_TD oh boy, I hope not too many trainers #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:34:37 |
@ELTC_TD @SueAnnan @Marisa_C I think that's a whole other layer that deserves being looked at itself! #ELTchat I th… https://t.co/6EmYHat3UC |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:36:58 |
@Marisa_C Good point - in making this kind of cut n' dry distinction re: NS knowledge/awareness of "grammar" etc. w… https://t.co/KDAHiYYyh8 |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T14:37:30 |
@SueAnnan @CsillaBenn Agreed - the lowest levels are often the most challenging of all #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-05-31T16:00:22 |
Relevant to this week’s #ELTchat, which is still in extended slow-burn mode...☝️ https://t.co/TSSLlxzJz1 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-05-31T16:10:04 |
@josephpiechura If the Ss opt to disassociate their L2 learning from any NS variety, then this might have some vali… https://t.co/mcCzBLVwV2 |
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