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Support for and from Academic Management

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Marisa_C 2018-03-21T18:03:07 Let's talk about teacher support by Directors of Studies/ Academic Management this p.m.  - are you a manager or Dir… https://t.co/ppkOytLoLZ
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T18:42:47 Summary of #ELTchat discussion on “What makes a good Director of Studies (DoS)? What should DoS’s be doing (And ind… https://t.co/CFwFr0U9I6
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T18:43:23 And here is the link :-) #eltchathttps://t.co/9fhNtB5JCP https://t.co/81yIGP0cE0
ELTchat 2018-03-21T19:00:49 Hello all :) Teacher Support by DOS and ADOS today at #ELTchat https://t.co/vyQP1oclhe
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:01:07 Hello everyone! #ELTchat https://t.co/MdJDen0vVZ
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:01:12 Hello! I missed this chat in 2011.. - may I join tonight? #eltchat (I'm not longer working in this context, but did for years)
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:01:50 @rapple18 I wasn't there either #ELTchat :) Welcome!
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:03:45 I think things have moved on a bit now, - I have a few more contemporary tips I could recommend (so easy to advise;… https://t.co/YSO1HxzTka
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:04:15 Always easier than done, right? #ELTchat :P Glad you joined us :)Let's see who else is online tonight :) https://t.co/KVxYPLDrGM
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:05:19 @rapple18 are you still based in Budapest? #ELTchat
ELTchat 2018-03-21T19:07:53 Anyone joining us? #ELTchat https://t.co/N1oJFGoTY9
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:08:22 @rapple18 When was the last time you worked in such a position? #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:09:16 @angelos_bollas I'm only online tonight because I've missed every Weds since at least 2017! ... is it just thee and me? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:09:27 @alena_karpova93 Absolutely yes :) Do not forget to use the #ELTchat hashtag, though - with every tweet
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:09:44 @angelos_bollas @rapple18 Hey there - how are you ? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:09:55 @rapple18 I am sore more people will join in #ELTchat - we'll see :)
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:10:10 @angelos_bollas As a DoS - here in Budapest at IH looking after BE classes; then the same (ADoS) at the BritishCoun… https://t.co/tp25ODdRAE
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:10:10 @Marisa_C @rapple18 Yay :) You are here :) #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:10:57 @alena_karpova93 @angelos_bollas Hi Alena! Where do you work / Where are you based? #ELTchat  (I'm in Budapest ... )
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:11:23 @angelos_bollas @rapple18 I am here and I am a DOS too - so where are the teachers? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:11:25 @rapple18 I mostly work as a DOS in summer schools here in the UK - very different context, short term, etc. #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:11:38 @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas You made it, @Marisa_C ! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:12:21 @Marisa_C @rapple18 Dunno where they've been - working long hours maybe :P #ELTchat
DaveDodgson 2018-03-21T19:12:28 RT @ModEngTeacher: Where do you stand on the subject of phonics? MET's resident blogger @DaveDodgson isn’t entirely convinced. https://t.co…
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:12:30 @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C , if your teachers were asked what they liked best about you as a DoS, what do… https://t.co/IfFkMowkvP
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:13:36 @rapple18 @angelos_bollas Good question - not much I think.... ask @angelos_bollas  :-D #eltchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:13:47 @angelos_bollas But you still need a lot of those year-round skills, don't you? #ELTchat  Yes, I guess it is quite… https://t.co/rldrq2VPaH
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:14:37 @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas [Where's the "I dont like this reply" button??]  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:15:18 @Marisa_C @rapple18 I can send you a DM! #ELTchat Hahahaha - just kidding :P One think that came to mind is the fre… https://t.co/NcfYRzOmhb
ClareBurke_ELT 2018-03-21T19:16:18 Hello! I’m a teacher and teacher trainer, can I join in? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:16:32 @rapple18 It's preparation, I think #ELTchat - Within a week (or less) everything needs to be ready for the next tw… https://t.co/W8OurqbPJh
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:16:50 @ClareBurke_ELT Of course you can! :) Welcome #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:17:17 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Oh that's really nice, - so you don't feel threatened if things go wrong .. SO often with… https://t.co/QvjFE9BHr5
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:17:38 Please @alena_karpova93 do not forget the #ELTchat https://t.co/VTe80zFF7V
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:17:44 @ClareBurke_ELT Hello, Clare! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:18:33 @rapple18 @Marisa_C No, but I have worked with some people who have made be feel truly threatened - the worst feeling ever #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:18:40 @angelos_bollas agh sounds mega scary! Yes, I can imagine support is crucial! #ELTchat ... & getting them to the end of the course (!)
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:19:02 @rapple18 @angelos_bollas Rachel, hi! I think you might be working with two of my ex-colleagues, Masha and Richard Bradley? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:19:16 @rapple18 I suppose this is totally different to year-long DOSing #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:19:18 @rapple18 @angelos_bollas I don't think I would  have the know how or the energy to do this job! #eltchat
ClareBurke_ELT 2018-03-21T19:19:30 @rapple18 Hello! #ELTchat I’m trying to find the discussion question!
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:20:13 @ClareBurke_ELT @rapple18 It's about our DOS's and ADOS's and  how they could support us  (or should!) #eltchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:20:18 @este_moscow @angelos_bollas Hi, Este! - er, I don't think so .. but what are they doing? for what organisation? #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:20:47 @angelos_bollas (you still get those teachers!!) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:20:48 @Marisa_C @rapple18 The energy is the most difficult for me. The first year was great! Second time was ok, and now,… https://t.co/4KwuXJHSt4
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:21:24 reminder ... discussion question: #ELTchat https://t.co/HTJS2EsDxB
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:21:32 @ClareBurke_ELT @rapple18 We are talking teacher support from DOS and ADOS. Have you ever worked as a/with a Direct… https://t.co/bYW2WdYhz9
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:21:55 (reminder) #ELTchat https://t.co/nnGRE9LrwP
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:22:03 @rapple18 Whoops #ELTchat
alena_karpova93 2018-03-21T19:22:34 @rapple18 What kind of advice did you have in mind? #ELTchat
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:22:34 @rapple18 @angelos_bollas Ah, OK, they used to be IH'ers here in Moscow, might very well be with a different school now. Sorry! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:23:08 As teachers, what do you need from your DOS? #ELTchat
ClareBurke_ELT 2018-03-21T19:23:18 @angelos_bollas @rapple18 I’ve never been an ADOS or DOS but have had both positive and negative experiences with both! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:23:54 @ClareBurke_ELT @rapple18 Would you like to share briefly what made the positive be positive and the negative be negative? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:23:56 Do you expect your DOS to support your work - for example, observe you, guide you to suitable resources, give you feedback etc? #eltchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:24:08 @este_moscow @angelos_bollas I havent worked with IH Moscow teachers, unfortunately! #ELTchat - tho there used to b… https://t.co/2qht4VxT2U
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:25:16 @angelos_bollas @rapple18 You are a young boy full of energy!!!! How can you say that? I should keel over and fall asleep then!!!  #eltchat
ClareBurke_ELT 2018-03-21T19:25:26 @angelos_bollas @rapple18 Had great weekly input led by DOS in 1st school who recognised newly qualified Ts needs. #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:25:30 @alena_karpova93 no rocket science (!) - I just remember so well how invaluable staff-room chat was, - and these da… https://t.co/H0Wh3993Do
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:25:43 I think it depends a lot on the size of the school - I have worked in a school where there was a DOS and a TD perso… https://t.co/XpSeelZLaC
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:25:45 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @rapple18 I've heard this from several people in DOS and ADOS positions. It seems like it… https://t.co/7x3ZRPadcS
koomska 2018-03-21T19:26:32 #ELTchat I have moved from IH DoS in Poland to working as full time DoS for UK summer school - really different. On… https://t.co/DK5Po7Dmym
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:26:47 @Marisa_C @rapple18 <3 Thank you so very much for saying that! Today, though, I found an activity I used in 2006 -… https://t.co/5Zq8d7QeSh
ClareBurke_ELT 2018-03-21T19:27:14 @angelos_bollas @rapple18 Had poor CPD (especially observation fdbk) from others #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:27:19 This is so important! New teachers need a lot of support and they rarely get it! #ELTchat https://t.co/CbIgjiR1Kf
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:27:32 @este_moscow @angelos_bollas @rapple18 Good point #eltchat - So how would you like to be supported? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:28:36 @este_moscow @Marisa_C @rapple18 That's true - This is similar to what trainers do. They start by giving a lot of s… https://t.co/v0DIbwDrVK
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:28:58 @Marisa_C I'd say that's pretty much what I'd expect, guidance, observation, FB when asked. Also, to be open-minded… https://t.co/0fcHvB7vzV
ClareBurke_ELT 2018-03-21T19:29:00 @angelos_bollas She extended the inspiration we feel in our CELTA. I wouldn’t have survived other workplaces had it… https://t.co/C2lg29bxU2
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:29:18 RT @este_moscow: @Marisa_C I'd say that's pretty much what I'd expect, guidance, observation, FB when asked. Also, to be open-minded enough…
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:29:44 @ClareBurke_ELT @rapple18 Was it mandatory for them to observe you? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:30:20 @ClareBurke_ELT @angelos_bollas I think you are now talking about someone with leadership qualities and not just ma… https://t.co/yQlFpsJ4zF
koomska 2018-03-21T19:30:24 @angelos_bollas #ELTchat agree absolutely. Supporting new teachers in summer school is so important.
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:30:40 @este_moscow @Marisa_C I think opportunities to experiment are very important #ELTchat That's how we develop our repertoire #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:31:49 @Marisa_C @ClareBurke_ELT Unfortunately this day-to-day stuff is the bulk of a DOS's workload these days :( #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:32:16 @ClareBurke_ELT @rapple18 #ELTchat - don't forget to use it :)
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:33:21 @Marisa_C @ClareBurke_ELT @angelos_bollas Indeed ... refers back to an earlier comment about TD and DOS - educ vs a… https://t.co/JOfhEsIm0h
TargetsEnglish 2018-03-21T19:34:07 RT @Marisa_C: Summary of #ELTchat discussion on “What makes a good Director of Studies (DoS)? What should DoS’s be doing (And indeed not do…
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:34:20 @rapple18 @Marisa_C @ClareBurke_ELT Maybe schools should have one Academic Manager to manage the nighty gritty thin… https://t.co/iHfbateXmW
alena_karpova93 2018-03-21T19:34:38 @rapple18 To be honest, I can not  provide any information on the subject you are interested in today. And which gr… https://t.co/xhxaR0x2UG
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:34:46 I particularly like this version of Maslow's hierarchy of needs - leaders are responsible for the top range too - h… https://t.co/cGzQEFsSLT
koomska 2018-03-21T19:35:31 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @ClareBurke_ELT #ELTchat That was my experience in year round language school. Had little time for creativity :(
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:35:35 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Agreed! I've had to work with Adosses and Dosses who would simply say: "That's not what I… https://t.co/thTMdn5OT1
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:36:19 @Marisa_C This is very interesting #ELTchat - Sometimes DOSs don't focus on the love/belonging part of it - very important for employees
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:37:08 @koomska @Marisa_C @ClareBurke_ELT Which is a pity, right? #ELTchat A DoS should be there to extend Ts current perf… https://t.co/fvONIACXXy
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:37:28 @este_moscow @Marisa_C I could not agree more! #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:38:02 I was also thinking earlier how useful #PeerObservation are (teachers observing each other). With a clear framework… https://t.co/4S1okH674l
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:38:50 @rapple18 Surely but how often does it really happen? #ELTchat Most of the times, observations are 'supervisory' on… https://t.co/70acdWQcL3
koomska 2018-03-21T19:39:14 @este_moscow @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C #ELTchat New teachers often have great ideas. We learn by experimenting and… https://t.co/qnRVIDglrm
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:39:22 #eltchat   Sharing a slide from a presentation - this one about what NOT to do as a school leader - from a great bo… https://t.co/5JzGDFwzk0
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T19:39:58 It's extremely dissapointing to work for a school where the management is unhelpful and treats you like a student #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:40:11 @koomska @este_moscow @Marisa_C And quite often, because of eagerness, new Ts have very creative ideas (or ideas wh… https://t.co/WWb4GY4BSo
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:41:24 @angelos_bollas It doesn't, - but I would give it yetanothergo if I was in a DoS position again. #ELTchat Mmmm.
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T19:41:40 Hi everyone on #ELTchat. Not sure what I did years ago would be called DOS tho I did the sort of things you describ… https://t.co/GkUhE1P2SE
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:41:50 @Marisa_C 'Schedule performance for times when people are not at their sharpest' - In my experience, many directors… https://t.co/bK2Te4UpiK
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:42:50 @rapple18 The school I first worked for had a Senior Teacher system in which newbies were assigned a mentor which h… https://t.co/gyXHtlAPlB
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:42:51 @alena_karpova93 some more useful stuff in this group: https://t.co/kke5bAACn0   #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T19:42:58 #eltchat Hi everyone
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:43:10 @rapple18 I enjoy being observed by others - especially if they are more familiar with different contexts #ELTchat… https://t.co/wPau4NGxbP
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:43:17 @angelos_bollas Indeed - this is tongue-in-cheek of course but the message is a very powerful one #Eltchat
alena_karpova93 2018-03-21T19:43:23 @rapple18 @iatefl Thank you very much, I did not know about the site https://t.co/3RATNXicuJ. Live and learn)) I'll… https://t.co/Cj6kzKYxCE
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:43:24 @hartle Hello :) #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T19:44:23 #eltchat I’ve worked as ADOS and DOS, both in language schools and on Bell Summer courses for young learners in the UK
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:44:29 @Marisa_C I want to 'love' this so many times #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:44:49 @alena_karpova93 @iatefl sorry, Alena, - the '@Pocket ' link was incidental (I use it to tag and store articles - i… https://t.co/nXXg1bKaT6
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:44:56 @este_moscow @rapple18 Mentorship is a good path for Ts who want to develop their skills and/or seek another direct… https://t.co/JGDZhpeI0c
hartle 2018-03-21T19:45:14 #eltchat now in the university system we have been thinking about a mentoring system but it isn’t in place yet.
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:45:23 @este_moscow that's REALLY nice :) #ELTchat  Ticks lots of boxes too! #mentor
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:45:26 @rapple18 @alena_karpova93 ???  have never seen topics related to management in that group  #eltchat
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T19:45:30 Another frustrating thing is when unqualified teachers become Ados or Dosand you realise that you know more than th… https://t.co/MKYoBI1Ne5
koomska 2018-03-21T19:46:13 @este_moscow @rapple18 #ELTchat We try to do that in my summer school- not always as well structured as it could be… https://t.co/z8xO8EIyYe
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:46:15 @este_moscow may be i should share those slides at some point :-) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:46:21 @LenoulouPan First time I was observed when teaching at a Uni was by a T who was less qualified and less experience… https://t.co/d5ARMfJx6h
hartle 2018-03-21T19:46:37 #eltchat https://t.co/ir7Y1YBSP1
ELTAdvocacy 2018-03-21T19:47:02 The never-ending story in Ireland's #ELT sector. Why not regulate, @RichardbrutonTD?@AlisonGilliland… https://t.co/SS6fTSoceL
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:47:08 @koomska @este_moscow @rapple18 Yes - safer, too #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:48:52 @Marisa_C @alena_karpova93 me neither.. but many facebook groups offer good support #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:48:58 We all talked about TD-related support. What about the admin side of it? What admin support do you expect from your DOS? #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T19:49:05 #eltchat @angelos observation at university?
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:49:38 @hartle @angelos Yes - during pre-sessionals #ELTchat
koomska 2018-03-21T19:49:40 @LenoulouPan #ELTChat other side is when new DoS finds themselves managing teachers who have worked at school for y… https://t.co/YWbHBqAfvL
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:49:41 @koomska @este_moscow "Often easier to talk to someone other than the ‘boss’"  - hear hear!  #ELTchat
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:50:02 @Marisa_C YES!!! But then I'll want to talk about it and you'll break my heart by talking about methodology. We bot… https://t.co/FOJ5ZSLgXi
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:50:17 @koomska @LenoulouPan That's very difficult - or when DOS joins a school in which there are people with 30 years of… https://t.co/TUstdlqmVA
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T19:50:31 I expect my DOS to respect me and not push me to do things I don't feel comfortable with. #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T19:50:37 @koomska @este_moscow @rapple18 Maybe informality and the lack of rigid structure is one of the great things about mentoring. #ELTchat
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:51:19 @koomska @LenoulouPan So true! #ELTchat  #checkyourego
hartle 2018-03-21T19:51:19 @Kate Smook  Yes, agreed. This can be very difficult especially with those who have issues with authority figures… https://t.co/5tXjyYl0hr
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T19:51:34 @angelos_bollas @LenoulouPan But maybe you were helpful to them? #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T19:52:33 #eltchat mentoring can be really helpful I think. We sometimes forget how much is new when you start working in a new place.
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:53:28 @GlenysHanson @LenoulouPan I was but I suppose their job was to help me #ELTchat - Having said that, he was a very… https://t.co/pcO0HL5UjU
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:53:45 @este_moscow I never break hearts ... as your tutor i am mostly pressured by theneed to get on with the Delta syllabus !!!! #ELTchat  :-(
hartle 2018-03-21T19:54:30 #eltchat @angelos yes, I think communication is the key. If everyone listens to each other and is well intentioned it can only be good.
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:54:58 @hartle Even when you are there for a very long time! #ELTchat In my last CELTA course at @CELT_Athens I learned so… https://t.co/eZNMltpjzC
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:54:59 @hartle I'm all about "each one teach one". Not only does it help the newbies but it gives the mentors accountabili… https://t.co/95xl0rqZDs
koomska 2018-03-21T19:55:20 @hartle #ELTChat True even when you’re experienced as a teacher. I’ve worked for same summer school for 9 years and… https://t.co/y54Z0k2Yap
rapple18 2018-03-21T19:55:28 @angelos_bollas @GemmaELT @LenoulouPan I've been on the other side. Mighty awkward ... (bad planning on DoS behalf!) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:56:18 @rapple18 @GemmaELT @LenoulouPan ouch! #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T19:56:37 #eltchat Iatefl have quite a good mentoring system and provide very clear guidelines
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:56:52 @LenoulouPan @GlenysHanson Experience is also important #ELTchat
sandymillin 2018-03-21T19:57:07 @LenoulouPan Yes. It's really hard to respect them or listen to their feedback then. #ELTchat
sandymillin 2018-03-21T19:57:31 What's the exact question today? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:57:31 @hartle I very much enjoy this every year #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:57:50 @sandymillin #ELTchat Welcome :) https://t.co/nSffppcBCq
hartle 2018-03-21T19:57:55 #eltchat I agree that one to one is probably the best. @este_moscow
este_moscow 2018-03-21T19:58:00 @Marisa_C And I love you for it. Seriously. I'd never get anywhere without you :)  There will be plenty time for no… https://t.co/YKGv59brDR
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T19:59:36 @hartle @este_moscow Virtual chocolate - I only see her online in a webinar room :-) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T19:59:49 @sandymillin You are someone who works as both a trainer and a DOS - Any good tips for both Ts and DOSs more than w… https://t.co/hffCbdozt1
hartle 2018-03-21T20:00:47 #eltchat I hope your Delta has lots of chocolate in it :-) @Marisa_C @este_moscow
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T20:00:49 @LenoulouPan When you push people they push back - goes nowhere. But  it is possible to respect colleagues and help… https://t.co/2jIad90Kde
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:01:07 @angelos_bollas Right, here goes... #ELTchat I try to make sure procedures are set in place so that as little stres… https://t.co/7zQWDotaDz
RobertTaylorELT 2018-03-21T20:01:12 @LenoulouPan Have you found this to be more common in schools that don't also have (e.g.) an operations or centre manager? #eltchat
hartle 2018-03-21T20:01:52 #ELTchat I think support needs to be given at the lesson planning stage if possible as well as observation
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:01:59 #ELTchat In observations at school, there's no requirement for a formal lesson plan, just a copy of their normal pl… https://t.co/r7OSdKwfiA
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:02:02 @sandymillin As in... from the admin side of things? #ELTchat - That's also super important. Ts don't always appreciate this part of the job
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:02:31 #ELTchat Teachers need to give feedback to management on what they're doing too, otherwise how can they improve? Wh… https://t.co/E9C2463oQu
este_moscow 2018-03-21T20:03:04 @hartle @Marisa_C Mostly coffee :D #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:03:10 @sandymillin Agreed! #ELTchat - Esp if one knows how to write a lesson plan, no need for them to write a 'formal' o… https://t.co/glv7FuMkS2
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:03:39 #ELTchat As others have said, communication is key. Let people know what's going on and when, why there are delays… https://t.co/yowOvNpLir
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T20:03:46 @GlenysHanson Exactly, I was recently pushed into a very uncomfortable situation and burst out. No Dos should do th… https://t.co/UEwyc2qTDu
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T20:04:14 @angelos_bollas @LenoulouPan I'm sure it worked not because you're both "sweet" guys but because you were both matu… https://t.co/SgcvQc0lNF
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:04:18 @sandymillin But this platform should be provided by the management side, right? #ELTchat
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:04:31 @angelos_bollas #ELTchat Stress should be minimised in as many areas as possible. Make admin as smooth and self-exp… https://t.co/0y9h0xI8VE
ELTAdvocacy 2018-03-21T20:04:32 @Marisa_C I don't want a teacher guru who gives me performance reviews while I work on a precarious contract and ch… https://t.co/r8dAJrgE2C
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T20:04:41 @RobertTaylorELT My experience comes from a very well-established schools with a centre manager :/ #eltchat
hartle 2018-03-21T20:05:00 #ELTchat @Leena No no DOS should. IN fact a DOS should build teachers’ confidence.
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:05:01 @sandymillin Regular and short :P #ELTchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T20:05:03 [I think this was planned.. - we all faff around throwing in ideas for 59', and then @sandymillin comes in with all… https://t.co/yxCyFEjQLT
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T20:05:40 @angelos_bollas @sandymillin Totally agree, the management should never confront teachers #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:05:43 @LenoulouPan @GlenysHanson Absolutely - At the end of the day, we are teachers - not surgeons #ELTchat Mistakes are ok
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:05:52 #ELTchat Also very important: don't bully. Sounds easy to say, but not always easy to do. Take a minute to stop and… https://t.co/kg3OUKkGWb
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:05:56 @ELTAdvocacy Great you could join us - not sure if you are speaking as a DOS or as a teacher - probably my fault -… https://t.co/6FvlReD2Is
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:06:28 @rapple18 Yeah, but you've probably said it already, I just haven't had time to read it ;) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:06:38 @sandymillin reduce paperwork, too I suppose #ELTchat
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:06:59 @angelos_bollas #ELTchat Absolutely! As short as possible while still containing all of the relevant information. D… https://t.co/b3fUP2xhPz
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:07:25 @sandymillin They just are!!! :-D (just kidding) I didn't like the secret dos concept - whining about the hardships… https://t.co/OywwheUtQx
rapple18 2018-03-21T20:07:28 @sandymillin just kiddin'! #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T20:07:40 #ELTchat paperwork is probably a necessary evil though. It should also be streamlined and accessible to all those who need to see it.
este_moscow 2018-03-21T20:07:56 @sandymillin Agreed. Also to foster a relationship where T's can ask for an observation due to class-management iss… https://t.co/iLT7hOo4Je
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:08:05 @rapple18 @sandymillin Hahaha! Indeed! #ELTchat
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:08:23 @angelos_bollas #ELTchat Whenever possible. We're trying to minimise the number of places particular information ap… https://t.co/iBcc58uvaU
hartle 2018-03-21T20:08:48 #ELTchat perhaps there should be team teaching as well as observations to take the feeling of judgment away
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:09:22 @hartle It can all be online though #ELTchat
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:09:23 @Marisa_C #ELTchat OK, I agree with that on the one hand, but I think a lot of what they say has a point, and I can… https://t.co/xDWCT53yue
rapple18 2018-03-21T20:09:23 @este_moscow @sandymillin This is really nice - totally agree. School needs to have this sort of atmosphere. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:09:26 @hartle she has probably written a blog post about it anyway and is gonna tell us :-D #eltchat Stay calm… https://t.co/9ildMCuuea
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:10:21 @este_moscow #ELTchat Yes, yes, yes! We've managed to normalise video observations this year (I think!) People are… https://t.co/G42SLnmXCO
GemmaELT 2018-03-21T20:10:42 @hartle @Leena #ELTchat doesn't always happen though (hello everyone, butting in instead of just retweeting), there… https://t.co/exjZ9AkK0O
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T20:11:17 @sandymillin Where I worked this was not encouraged: "Don't make waves just get on & do your job. Keep the students… https://t.co/6iiqFu0yaQ
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:11:38 @Marisa_C @hartle Well, there was that one I wrote yesterday on choosing a coursebook :p #ELTchat That's another th… https://t.co/L0jxwmiXcz
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:11:40 @GlenysHanson @sandymillin sounds familiar #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T20:11:42 #ELTchat @Gemma There are bad apples everywhere. You need to judge their characters and try not to let it get to you :-(
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:11:46 I think peer video observations could be done thru a closed FB group - have found this to be a good solution for my… https://t.co/I3qjTdgvhp
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:12:23 @GlenysHanson Sounds familiar, and absolutely and completely wrong! #ELTchat We all need feedback to improve, regar… https://t.co/0QOGYNmU6Z
hartle 2018-03-21T20:12:42 #ELTchat good idea https://t.co/UCuWmJjyd2
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:12:52 livestreaming privately also an option #ELtchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T20:13:06 @Marisa_C close group peer observations - hmm - sounds really nice .. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:13:37 Because teacher timetables being what they are ppl never have a chance to observe colleagues and that is a real pity #ELTchat
hartle 2018-03-21T20:13:43 #ELTchat bye all, have to go, but thanks for an interesting chat, as always :-)
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:14:03 Have also written an articles in the IH Journal about deciding whether to go into management (a favour some people… https://t.co/BO7IN0y8ce
ELTchat 2018-03-21T20:14:58 I officially need to announce that our synchronous chat ended 15 minutes ago - Please continue in Slow Burn mode an… https://t.co/XUO6vrur5D
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:15:06 @hartle Bye Sharon have a nice eve #eltchat
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T20:15:08 @GemmaELT @hartle @Leena And that's how it should be #eltchat
rapple18 2018-03-21T20:15:30 Sorry guys.... I'm afraid I'll leave you to burn slowly, - but it was great to be back in touch - lots of handy rem… https://t.co/MD1lubJGwz
rapple18 2018-03-21T20:16:14 @ELTchat Thanks all, and @Marisa_C and @angelos_bollas for moderating :) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:16:30 @rapple18 @ELTchat @Marisa_C Thank you for joining us :) #ELTchat
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T20:16:33 @GlenysHanson @sandymillin Sad #eltchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:16:54 @ELTchat Anyone willing to do the write up of this #ELTchat ? We need a volunteer - and don't neglect to check out… https://t.co/xa2ti7BAWF
angelos_bollas 2018-03-21T20:17:26 Thank you all for a great chat! Come back next week at 7pm (UK time) please #ELTchat
sandymillin 2018-03-21T20:17:29 That's it for now :) Sorry I was late to the #ELTchat party, but looking forward to reading the summary. No time to… https://t.co/8jMxXOLALg
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T20:17:45 Thanks everyone! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:18:15 @LenoulouPan thanks for joining - this your first #ELTchat ? and see you soon
este_moscow 2018-03-21T20:18:59 @sandymillin Just had a quick glance at this, thank you! Will definitely go through it nice and slow. I need to mak… https://t.co/e3XK9bheHG
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:19:02 Check out our summaries page https://t.co/Yq2YXelZP2  #ELTchat and become another famous #ELTchat blogger!!!
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T20:19:35 @angelos_bollas @LenoulouPan Yes, everybody has the right to make mistakes: students, teachers, DOS, management...… https://t.co/34Md4sr2Tl
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T20:19:46 @este_moscow @sandymillin te he he #eltchat
este_moscow 2018-03-21T20:27:49 Lovely, lovely chat. See you all again next week! #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2018-03-21T20:29:30 Thanks everyone. And to think I nearly didn't come!!! #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-03-21T20:30:21 @LenoulouPan No excuse for having to compromise between teaching experience and management experience, then #eltchat
ELTAdvocacy 2018-03-21T20:31:42 @Marisa_C Personally? I've worked as a DOS and ADOS but unfortunately in schools where the priorities were not in l… https://t.co/fynLA8Payr
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T20:37:07 @Marisa_C Yes! I've been following you all for a while though  #eltchat
koomska 2018-03-21T20:39:15 #ELTChat Sorry had to disappear for a while. Really enjoyed my first experience.
TeachingGamesUK 2018-03-21T21:07:01 I think I'm largely a product of weekly, and varied, TD sessions. Also, I'd been teaching less than two years and m… https://t.co/hzmQNbULOZ
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:09:00 @este_moscow @rapple18 We have that. Every teacher has a mentor who does their observations, support etc. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T21:11:34 @koomska Lovely to hear that! See you back here soon! #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:11:44 @angelos_bollas @LenoulouPan That’s a bit rubbish #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:12:47 @koomska @LenoulouPan The school I am dos at has teachers that have been here since it opened! #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:16:37 @sandymillin @este_moscow I like this idea #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:17:54 @sandymillin We have a weekly emailed bulletin about what’s coming up, with links to extra Pd etc #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:19:50 @sandymillin @Marisa_C @hartle That’s Friday’s job. Off to academic AGM tomorrow #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:22:03 Sorry I missed the main chat, which as a DOS is useful. Preparing for academic AGM when we review year and discuss… https://t.co/7I66sqnmej
LenoulouPan 2018-03-21T21:22:57 @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas It really sucks, there's no person to go and ask for help or advice #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2018-03-21T21:43:44 @LenoulouPan @koomska True. Need to make in jokes with everyone. Are you guys still in Spain? #ELTchat
grajuretich 2018-03-21T21:45:26 Mentoring is very important as part of any teacher development process. #Eltchat
Marisa_C 2018-03-21T23:41:33 @LenoulouPan @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas :-( Sorry to hear that - some good people here on #ELTchat willing to answer or help
nathanghall 2018-03-21T23:51:57 My latest post for new TESL instructors or those taking their TESL training -> Correcting #ELTchat #TESOL #LINCchat… https://t.co/bWd8zEH6dD
tesolmatthew 2018-03-22T03:44:11 @Marisa_C @LenoulouPan @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas What makes a truly great leader in ANY field or profession is w… https://t.co/EnpWkr3sVr
tesolmatthew 2018-03-22T03:46:40 @Marisa_C @LenoulouPan @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas Like Marisa said, this I think is the reason why the online PLN… https://t.co/JakrGk1Erq
MartinaEmke 2018-03-22T06:18:38 Says a lot about freelance language teachers' employment conditions!#ELTchat@taw_sig @ELTAdvocacy https://t.co/LuYdxNhOqh
rapple18 2018-03-22T09:59:13 @NicolaMeldrum (for #ELTchat slow burn) Nice approach, - yes - this would probably make it even more effective. Any… https://t.co/gMSOgCIVbB
rapple18 2018-03-22T09:59:46 #ELTchat slowburn https://t.co/zTsOXeZ0kh
Marisa_C 2018-03-22T10:28:42 #ELTchat - just adding this to the #slowburn - thanks for joining in Nicola - sounds like a good idea. Observatio… https://t.co/9dbtRkciZX
Marisa_C 2018-03-22T10:37:59 @RobbioDobbio They could join #ELTchat here on twitter once a week  - more here https://t.co/lG8KaVPBFn
Marisa_C 2018-03-22T10:38:51 @RobbioDobbio You can also follow @seburnt 's ELT calendar where loads of free CPD available https://t.co/MJN8SZHZSV . #eltchat
ThisIsMattStott 2018-03-23T08:11:14 @sandymillin @este_moscow #eltchat 1. Was there any initial resistance by teachers to being filmed? 2. How much of… https://t.co/ilRUzPTX3j


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