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Research and the Classroom Teacher

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Marisa_C 2018-02-07T18:47:32 It's official! Our topic in about 15 minutes is "Academic Research and ELT" - have a look at my short introduction… https://t.co/zQhS8XUsJ2
ELTchat 2018-02-07T18:48:04 #ELTchat topic #Academic Research and ELT https://t.co/6YXYZZl2Bx
ELTchat 2018-02-07T18:54:40 "There have been quite a few recent blog posts about the lack of filtering of research to teachers and the poor med… https://t.co/3iHQjBgnnQ
eteacherjon 2018-02-07T18:57:25 The letter SSleep tighthttps://t.co/rveFPhQH4n                                                     #FBPE… https://t.co/yIiMGbEEr6
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T18:57:41 5 minutes to #ELTchat - our topic tonight was suggested by @SueAnnan and @mr_kuo (Kenneth Kuo) we hope you will joi… https://t.co/Vgd9aw8igj
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T18:59:02 @eteacherjon May i ask you to stop after this tweet pls - we are about to start our #ELTchat weekly discussion
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:02:37 @ELTchat #eltchat oh, is this on now?
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:04:20 @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat It's on since you are here - welcome to #ELTchat - anyone else joining us?
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:05:12 @Marisa_C @ELTchat #ELTChat hopefully - it's a valuable and interesting discussion topic!
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T19:06:28 @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat #eltchat Reporting for duty
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:07:08 hello #ELTchat ters
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:07:45 @LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat Hello and welcome - I LIKE your response to the roll call! :-D #ELTchat
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:07:55 @SueAnnan Hello #ELTchat Sue
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:08:25 @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat Hi Marisa! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:08:36 @LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat @SueAnnan @fionaljp  What no hi for me? Just for Sue :-( sniff #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:08:39 Hi there, Marisa, Sue, Fiona ... #ELTchat
David__Boughton 2018-02-07T19:08:54 Hi everyone! #eltchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:08:55 @ELTchat #eltchat, yes, further, beyond mediation, is how far this research can be put into (immediate) practice by… https://t.co/LDjLX0IE5g
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:09:05 @fionaljp @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat oh ok i ok again :-D #Eltchat Hey @GlenysHanson
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:09:09 I worry that I'm not always up on what's changing in our profession. As journals can be expensive, the info doesn't… https://t.co/aLqa8tTzGM
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:09:23 @Marisa_C @LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat @SueAnnan Hi Marisa!! #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:09:29 And Robert... and David. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:09:44 @GlenysHanson Hello! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:09:55 @Marisa_C @LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat @fionaljp Mwah you. You know we love you#ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:10:10 I think @SueAnnan just highlighted the MAIN problem Ts have with reading research #eltchat journals are awfully exp… https://t.co/24UVa4wBHQ
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:11:18 Very true - I have been asking Ts recently and most of them were not taught experimental design on their degree cou… https://t.co/jXo9ipJeN9
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:11:20 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan True! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:11:56 How do we filter out the rubbish, too?  Some of the research is in its infancy and doesn't seem to relate to practice #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:12:17 Well, starting with a thought not a Q. Pre-Delta, I felt found methodology books hard to dip into, nevermind anythi… https://t.co/3OEH8mb8Jp
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:13:00 @SueAnnan #eltchat from that, is that an indication of the quality or relevance of the research, or for the need to… https://t.co/M2m7NEsun4
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:13:02 So let's make that a question. How do you #eltchat folk feel about academic research?
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:13:04 Experimental design means you also learn how to evaluate research #eltchat so that's another important issue https://t.co/e1w53gRaqg
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:13:19 @MoreMsJackson My DipTESOL colleagues will surely agree with you. They found some of the reading material like wadi… https://t.co/DB7Seid59D
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:13:37 @SueAnnan I only read what I’m interested in rather reading ‘research' #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:14:19 #ELTchat (remember the hashtag) https://t.co/JazzJ0Dnec
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:14:24 @RobertTaylorELT I think it isn't easy to determine relevance, but we do need to consider our current practice, so both #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:14:46 @MoreMsJackson During Module 2, I was advised to prioritise meth books over academic research, as they're more dire… https://t.co/1XyjKjTPU8
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:15:30 @SueAnnan I must say I choose the research that fits with my feelings and what I've observed in class. Not scientif… https://t.co/FXs9rs5P5I
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:15:40 @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Ah, I see  - that’s different. My previous tweet referred to reading for personal TD re re… https://t.co/qpuwg5TW31
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:15:44 @RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson But post Delta, you need to know more about the research and its relevance to your… https://t.co/lZnHhIS46t
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:15:58 @LinguaBishes most research is open to debate either because of small populations or wooly exp, design - #eltchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:16:28 @SueAnnan The other thing is I'm always reading with my students and my classrooms in mind. How does this apply? If… https://t.co/OFXIbFkIpk
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:16:41 @GlenysHanson I do too. But I feel that I'm often on the back foot when things change. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:17:01 @SueAnnan Edit: I only read what I’m interested in rather than reading ‘research' #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:17:09 @MoreMsJackson Well, where a meth book may say "What are some good ways to make students aware of lexical cohesion?… https://t.co/04cz0mNIVj
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:17:13 #ELTchat https://t.co/u1PqWLdwcD
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:17:49 @RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson I am aware of this not as a Delta tutor ruling but as advice to help candidates dea… https://t.co/CLO88gi7E0
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:17:55 @Marisa_C @LinguaBishes And teachers don't always have the right background to see this I think #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:18:18 @GlenysHanson I think your classroom observations ARE unofficial research anyway Glenys #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:18:28 @SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Yes, that became immediately apparent when Thornbury and Scrivener disappeared from the reading lists(!) #eltchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:19:04 @MoreMsJackson @LinguaBishes true - remember that refereed journals tend to be written in language that many non-na… https://t.co/knKyvuGFmu
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:19:07 @RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson LOL #ELTchat
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T19:19:13 @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Good point- teachers need calls to action and academic research doesn't really peddle in that #ELTchat
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:19:56 @SueAnnan Good point. Teachers need acccess to research - really important to have journals in staff rooms #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:20:04 @SueAnnan @RobertTaylorELT To what extent do you thing all teachers need to be up to speed with research on all are… https://t.co/tanFKsmNy2
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:20:37 Perhaps teachers should carry out independent research on a yearly basis. That way their teaching would be better informed #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:20:38 I think academics also insist on using this language - which I call 'gatekeeping' - to appear very learned and impo… https://t.co/7pXIrzEu9Q
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:21:08 @SueAnnan No teachers need translators :-) #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:21:23 @fionaljp That's not going to happen in my neck of the woods. And many teachers would just avoid the issue if the m… https://t.co/ffnv2IOutZ
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:21:51 @SueAnnan Considering the small number of subjects observed by many researchers what all thoughtful teachers do can… https://t.co/ryi0DjBTNz
hartle 2018-02-07T19:22:01 #ELTchat Hi everyone. You may think I'm a ghost but I hope I'm a welcome one.
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:22:06 @Marisa_C @LinguaBishes #eltchat narrowing the field down to research reviews is a good way to overcome this, I fin… https://t.co/IZZvRRdGIn
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:22:18 @hartle LOvely to have you here #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:22:19 @RobertTaylorELT Definitely. More relevant and more readable. We're trusting that the author have done their research/reading. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:22:37 @fionaljp @SueAnnan How many staff rooms do  you know that have journals? #eltchat Apart from a couple, also, have… https://t.co/ayy9FVs3lv
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:23:11 #ELTchat https://t.co/dO0Gvs2MQj
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:23:19 @hartle WHo are YOU?? #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:23:22 @SueAnnan #eltchat this surely depends on the quality of the research, which in turn requires that teachers are tra… https://t.co/oC5UOP8mWj
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T19:23:34 @MoreMsJackson @SueAnnan @RobertTaylorELT I like this idea because we only have bandwidth for so many things. I rec… https://t.co/L60WmolMCs
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:23:45 @RobertTaylorELT In those examples I see one relevant to lesson ideas and one to teaching approaches #ELTchat
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:23:57 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Open access research - that would be great! #ELTchat
David__Boughton 2018-02-07T19:24:21 @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan How might that work? Compensation for researchers, etc. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:24:21 @RobertTaylorELT Our BEsig conference worked in tandem with the REsig last winter. It was quite illuminating what e… https://t.co/69cu74EwOS
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T19:24:36 @MoreMsJackson @SueAnnan @RobertTaylorELT I think having teachers interact with research in their specialism is a g… https://t.co/tp594ANUaS
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:24:52 @SueAnnan Thanks Sue - forgot hashtag #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:25:06 @fionaljp @SueAnnan In any case, researchers don't get paid for their contributions to refereed journals! #ELTchat… https://t.co/JmsWHAhXXh
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:25:44 @hartle What is it like in your university? #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:26:01 @MoreMsJackson #eltchat however, how reliable is the research data? Sure, I can try it as an idea (might not work f… https://t.co/rSt6CGSVoG
hartle 2018-02-07T19:26:09 #ELTchat The ELTJournal is an attempt to bring research to teachers
TESOLacademic 2018-02-07T19:26:29 RT @Marisa_C: @fionaljp @SueAnnan In any case, researchers don't get paid for their contributions to refereed journals! #ELTchat  and once…
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:26:38 @David__Boughton @fionaljp @SueAnnan researchers get grants but they don't get paid for the reports #ELTchat  so th… https://t.co/gPwWxqRohW
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:26:47 @hartle How much is useful, and how much is navel-gazing? #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:27:08 I did do a couple of statistics courses at university. I was rubbish at the maths but I did understand that conclus… https://t.co/tms6AhqGuk
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:27:25 @hartle ELTJ is one of the most accessible journals for teachers - thsi and TESOL Quarterly #ELTchat
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T19:28:08 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C True, but I have also seen teachers dismiss a concept out of hand because the context of… https://t.co/91o0ALNgDQ
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:28:17 My own view is that researchers don't care zilch about teachers - they write for other academics and to promote their careers #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:28:51 @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan May I ask what journals we're referring to here? Are they SLA, linguistics, ELT? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:29:06 @Marisa_C I'm afraid I agree with that #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:29:08 @SueAnnan @hartle Depends what you're after, doesn't it? #eltchatI found, e.g. the study on NNS pausing more freq… https://t.co/4jPXmcNfMS
este_moscow 2018-02-07T19:29:08 @Marisa_C Agreed. I, more often than not, get the impression that researchers write with other researchers in mind,… https://t.co/TSAROasUJb
David__Boughton 2018-02-07T19:29:11 @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan But the journals need money then? Could this go the way of print newspapers, where ev… https://t.co/wLZtYVeuuY
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:29:32 #ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:29:41 @David__Boughton @fionaljp @SueAnnan Journals get money for Uni subscriptions #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:30:10 @fionaljp Thanks Fiona #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:30:29 @David__Boughton @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan I suppose this is where the mediator comes in, but what makes an eff… https://t.co/cUwGfeWYmC
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:30:43 RT @fionaljp: #ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn
TESOLacademic 2018-02-07T19:30:44 #ELTChat of late I ONLY publish in #OpenAccess #peerreviewed #journals, but this is only possible because I am not… https://t.co/EqiwVexOmQ
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:31:27 When the hooha came about learning styles, I was looking for accessible research to prove my point, but it was impe… https://t.co/78JBF0LueW
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:31:41 @RobertTaylorELT Back to @Marisa_C's point about the sample size of studies #ELTchat I must confess as someone with… https://t.co/DlXAxGMXS0
AchilleasK 2018-02-07T19:31:47 RT @fionaljp: #ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:32:03 Good evening #eltchat. Sorry for being so late! Have been reading  previous tweets, trying to catch up.
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:32:08 @RobertTaylorELT @David__Boughton @fionaljp @SueAnnan good question CUP used to have a journal which publisehed a… https://t.co/dd7OP0lgVw
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:32:31 @naomishema Hi Naomi#ELTchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:33:06 RT @Marisa_C: @hartle ELTJ is one of the most accessible journals for teachers - thsi and TESOL Quarterly #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:33:20 RT @fionaljp: #ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:33:21 Here is a list of (mostly) open access journals on my blog as well https://t.co/xtG0Lw4LeM #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:34:27 How long does it take for research to  make it into classroom practice? If we aren't made aware of it, we can't change much #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:34:27 @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C you'll see it a lot more #eltchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:34:32 @SueAnnan It is deliberately written in this language because it needs to be admired by other producers of impenetr… https://t.co/wSQuasGS8W
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:34:36 @SueAnnan And they have a list of open access journals here: https://t.co/c3jfrZQJr3 #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:35:06 Thanks for all the links. #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:35:46 @SueAnnan Very interesting question #ELTchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:36:14 it’s true that sample sizes count but a sample of 25 for an action research study is fine. #eltchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:36:23 #eltchat this reminds me of another point - when seemingly learned people interpret research to suit their beliefs… https://t.co/C5sAnwLw4p
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:37:04 RT @GlenysHanson: @SueAnnan And they have a list of open access journals here: https://t.co/c3jfrZQJr3 #ELTchat
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:37:13 The format is just as much as barrier than the language. Way beyond using APAor Chicago for the references, sigh... #eltchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:37:14 #eltchat eltresearchbites is great and can be read to provide food for thought
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:37:21 @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan I did know and find it shocking. I'm hoping  such practices will be killed off by the internet. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:37:22 @RobertTaylorELT But don't they always? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:37:24 @hartle I am sure there are exceptions to this sweeping statement but I have had contact with quite a few at lingui… https://t.co/OyoQcETwb5
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:37:46 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Would I be correct in inferring a distrust or slight disdain towards researchers? #eltchat
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:37:53 RT @hartle: #eltchat eltresearchbites is great and can be read to provide food for thought
hartle 2018-02-07T19:37:59 RT @RobertTaylorELT: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Would I be correct in inferring a distrust or slight disdain towards researchers? #eltchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:38:18 RT @Marisa_C: Here is a list of (mostly) open access journals on my blog as well https://t.co/xtG0Lw4LeM #ELTchat
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T19:38:18 @GlenysHanson @SueAnnan Thanks for sharing this project! I was unfamiliar with it. @Linguabishes is also in the bus… https://t.co/mVtCpvxYj2
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:38:28 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C But other than doing a Master's (I'm assuming this helps), how are teachers without the… https://t.co/4kzBLNahbB
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:38:39 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C Not at all. What I'd like is more dialogue with them. IN a language I can understand #ELTchat And I'm not thick!
hartle 2018-02-07T19:39:02 #eltchat @marisa I’m sure you know much more than yr average PhD student so some would surely be happy to learn
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:39:13 @RobertTaylorELT @SueAnnan Not at all - we need their information - I don't think they are interested in passing it… https://t.co/KoJ9OqLXzl
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:39:14 @GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan It looks good on their CV, supposedly that's supposed to suffice. #eltchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:39:44 #eltchat research and educators can interact and complement each other if they cross the bridge from 1 world to the other
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:39:51 @SueAnnan Exactly, and teacher can access their ideas easier than they can access the research upon which their ide… https://t.co/Kt2P0AAwSQ
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:40:40 I sat through a fascinating session on translanguaging in Elt, but the researcher had toned it down for her audienc… https://t.co/uVlX1uIr3v
hartle 2018-02-07T19:40:53 #eltchat Cambridge English researchers reach out to educators with webinars etc.
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:40:57 If you look at many of the comments targeted against teachers, it's quite sad to say how can a T paid 4 euros an ho… https://t.co/QPnhexExdT
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:41:48 @hartle Not usually at a good time of day, when teachers are in the classroom. #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:42:09 @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Well, this is the issue (or one of them). And how relevant is it that it could feasibly be… https://t.co/Dkgbeh4bKt
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:42:14 @SueAnnan There's lots of woolly research, isn't there? For example, what is and is not explicit grammar teaching. #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:42:32 RT @hartle: #eltchat research and educators can interact and complement each other if they cross the bridge from 1 world to the other
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:42:51 There is no one single solution to the problem#Eleni - Ts need to learn to read & evaluate research- Researchers… https://t.co/9NsgHrXibA
este_moscow 2018-02-07T19:43:14 @SueAnnan @hartle When aren’t we, though? :D #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:43:32 Good started point - include on TT courses #ELTchat https://t.co/Jfhsq9ABTC
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:44:24 @ALiCe__M That's great - but not in our world - I should have become a teacher of French - (BTW it's GREAT to see y… https://t.co/fsYU3JOB3V
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:44:30 @SueAnnan Oh gosh I had a flashback to university then. Not all researchers are natural teachers. I thought at the… https://t.co/lxodUF8sBi
hartle 2018-02-07T19:44:36 #eltchat I think teacher training can promote reflection and observation but research may come later
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:45:42 @Marisa_C Is there much room for teachers to move towards research? But on the teacher's terms, so not obfuscating… https://t.co/ceE7UXbUbX
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:45:56 Perhaps one solution is joint articles - researcher and a teacher. I just had such an experience and the researcher… https://t.co/tjDJJtHPzc
hartle 2018-02-07T19:46:27 #eltchat maybe teachers want to develop discussion and reflection rather than research per se
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:46:39 @naomishema Oops. Not helpful for your colleagues #ELTchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:47:06 @naomishema #eltchat sounds an interesting experience, Naomi
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:47:16 I think courses like the Delta (which you did) and others, encourage and promote a T as researcher construct but th… https://t.co/NU14Xxg0Fv
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:47:21 @hartle I think we also need to know about findings that challenge what we are doing in class #ELTchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:47:36 #eltchat I teach and do research, & I’m so busy I hardly have time to think.
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:47:47 @SueAnnan But now it may get published, On my own it did not... #ELTchat
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T19:47:47 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C There is a movement in North America for "action research," but not sure if that's somet… https://t.co/yjBdcfLDdv
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:48:07 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C I can't remember the stat, but isn't the average English teacher in state schools usuall… https://t.co/0gvDp4Lkau
hartle 2018-02-07T19:48:14 #eltchat the pressure to publish is mind boggling and peer reviews often send you into the depths...
hartle 2018-02-07T19:48:41 #eltchat I publish on https://t.co/jA98gHoqbG when I can, but I’m not always allowed to
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:49:09 RT @hartle: #eltchat the pressure to publish is mind boggling and peer reviews often send you into the depths...
hartle 2018-02-07T19:49:11 #eltchat as a hybrid researcher/educator I hope I’d always be happy to talk to everyone!
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:49:22 @hartle Does the pressure to publish mean that badly conducted research slips through the net too? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:50:04 @MoreMsJackson @RobertTaylorELT That's another issue - low language levels don't allow for comprehension of dense text #eltchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:51:05 @hartle I trained to be a researcher but do i have the time? ... once in a blue moon maybe #eltchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:51:12 #eltchat @SueAnnan I’m sure it does, but peer reviews are pretty tough. Depends on the publication
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:51:13 @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C IELTS research indicates UK "native speakers" are level 6.5 on the IELTS scale #eltchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:51:22 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C If you consider our whole sector, there's got to be cascade of some sorts. Not sure how.… https://t.co/1NgQkd71ri
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:51:51 @ALiCe__M Yes, #ELT Alice - ma chere je suis tres hereuse de vous voir ici :-D #ELTchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:52:10 #eltchat 1 of my interests is corpora so we set up a Facebook group to involve more teachers CorpusCALL on Facebook
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:52:37 @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT I wonder how accessible even methodology books and journals like ELT are to these teache… https://t.co/BrquGsQsoX
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:52:50 @Marisa_C @MoreMsJackson #eltchat there are some journals that, though research-based, are less textually dense.
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:53:05 RT @hartle: #eltchat 1 of my interests is corpora so we set up a Facebook group to involve more teachers CorpusCALL on Facebook
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:53:10 @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT That's where you need access to a decent library #ELTchat
fionaljp 2018-02-07T19:53:20 @SueAnnan @hartle Yes, what we are doing in class and what we are passing on in training - so important #ELTchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:53:23 #eltchat I’d love a world where academics share and develop conversations but...
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:53:26 @MoreMsJackson @RobertTaylorELT Not at all #ELTchat
eteacherjon 2018-02-07T19:53:32 The letter SSlowcoachhttps://t.co/rveFPhQH4n                                                      #FBPE #english… https://t.co/qRfTfNIiZC
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:53:44 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C Those with or without university education? Or on average? #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T19:53:58 @SueAnnan @hartle A certain blogger would say so! #eltchat
eteacherjon 2018-02-07T19:53:58 Next topicThe letter Bhttps://t.co/rveFPhQH4n                                                       #FBPE… https://t.co/ejeI0j4Zdu
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:54:11 I recently found out about this website but have not been able to use it properly yet https://t.co/N2E9mVgb8e… https://t.co/EBbDRynIp4
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T19:54:19 @RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Is that an indictment of native speakers or of IELTS? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:54:51 @eteacherjon please do not interrupt our #ELTchat - I asked you before we started please stop that!
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:55:06 @GlenysHanson @RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C TBH many of the people we meet on a daily basis would fail… https://t.co/8ziCVJZX5F
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:55:11 Now that my son is a university student I can once again search ERIC, educational data base. I couldn't since my MA... #eltchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:56:05 @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT So do we have sone responsibility to help bridge the gap? I'm now thinking it's not just… https://t.co/ihC8spseR9
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:56:50 @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT We need to find a way to make the cascade happen #ELTchat Any ideas to start?
naomishema 2018-02-07T19:56:52 @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT Hardly accessible IMHO #eltchat
hartle 2018-02-07T19:56:55 #eltchat @MoreMsJackson I think educators should reach out to researchers. They aren’t monsters just on a parallel track
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T19:57:14 RT @SueAnnan: @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT We need to find a way to make the cascade happen #ELTchat Any ideas to start?
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:57:53 Good question - how do we break out of this impasse? #ELTchat https://t.co/NxwgkEziOy
hartle 2018-02-07T19:57:59 #eltchat at conferences like IATEFL there are lots of researchers. Jus talk to them about things they say that interest you
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T19:58:56 WE are coming to the end of this #ELTchat. I suppose I will have to write the summary- unless one of you would like… https://t.co/epOd2x98cT
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T19:58:59 I don't think we called them monsters but they have chosen the academic track and to move ahead on that one it's no… https://t.co/ywDh8QtKZ8
hartle 2018-02-07T19:59:14 #eltchat @Marisa_C or educators can develop their own brand of reflection, action research and publication channels
SueAnnan 2018-02-07T20:00:04 @hartle @Marisa_C Yes. That's true- and probably a necessary first step for many #ELTchat
hartle 2018-02-07T20:00:04 #eltchat perhaps most educators are not interested in psychometric research, but many are interested in qualitative studies.
este_moscow 2018-02-07T20:00:21 @Marisa_C @hartle Out of interest, are these two roles, teacher and researcher, always compatible? Or do you have t… https://t.co/0g0w6Q37an
LinguaBishes 2018-02-07T20:00:31 @Marisa_C I think teacher trainers and curriculum developers have a big role to play here #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T20:00:31 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT From the Ts I know, gotta be cheap, quick and very relevant to the classroom.… https://t.co/lvmoLbTGMA
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:00:49 Perhaps we should run a 'How to read and do research MOOC next year on the free TESOL EVO!!! #eltchat
hartle 2018-02-07T20:01:46 #eltchat cd be on to something here. Educators researching for educators :-)
hartle 2018-02-07T20:02:27 #eltchat what sort of distribution channels she be set up
RobertTaylorELT 2018-02-07T20:02:39 @hartle Is this different from shared-data action research? #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T20:02:58 @Marisa_C Maybe we should suggest it as a research subject for somebody's PHD: The relationship between researchers… https://t.co/PDmZ5ZA58q
hartle 2018-02-07T20:03:40 #eltchat @GlenysHanson Sounds like an excellent topic :-)
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:03:48 @SueAnnan I know I've done EVO MOOCs before but I can get a team together easy #eltchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:05:15 @GlenysHanson I don't know but even if it did get written it would not solve the problem - and probably sit on some… https://t.co/WyjEHsefaF
hartle 2018-02-07T20:05:39 #eltchat bye everyone. Interesting chat :-)
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:06:14 I don't think we solved any problems - but we sure did vent a bit - that cannot be bad! #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T20:06:59 @Marisa_C Well then, are you up for doing a Ted Talk on the subject, Marisa? #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T20:07:53 @hartle No-one I chatted to at IATEFL last year was a researcher. Maybe I just didn't sit next to any of them... Or… https://t.co/yy44rUogrf
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:08:56 @MoreMsJackson @hartle IATEFL is a teachers' conference - researchers have other more exclusive events held in hallowed halls :-D #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T20:09:34 @Marisa_C I may be wrong, but I feel you have the charisma to it well. I'll find out how you propose someone for a Ted Talk. #ELTchat
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T20:10:34 @Marisa_C I think there was some food for thought too, which is not bad #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:11:20 @GlenysHanson I don't know about that - but I remember a conference about the CEFR two or three years ago where peo… https://t.co/HH1xh8vEFY
GlenysHanson 2018-02-07T20:11:48 @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C A researcher or their DOS would know how to reformulate and focus the subject. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:13:00 I think the only conferences with researchers that I have enjoyed are the two we co-organised when i was on the com… https://t.co/JEaBbwWOm2
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T20:16:46 @Marisa_C @iatefl_ltsig @LaureateIntlU Just given me a thought. Maybe one step should be researcher-SIG engagement.… https://t.co/d8Ii8oBMcl
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:18:24 @MoreMsJackson @iatefl_ltsig @LaureateIntlU there is one if you are interested - can put you in touch #eltchat with @danielxerri
MoreMsJackson 2018-02-07T20:23:43 @ALiCe__M @Marisa_C @hartle I think @Marisa_C was probably meaning teaching events aren't exactly a priority for re… https://t.co/uksf8XvNdZ
JessBCN 2018-02-07T20:26:10 @Marisa_C @iatefl_ltsig @LaureateIntlU #ELTchat Last year I helped organize the ELT Research in Action conference… https://t.co/Rvfr7VX2o9
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T20:55:11 @ALiCe__M @MoreMsJackson @hartle Not easy but we have to try! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T21:25:13 Looks like we are guilty of forgetting to mention at least two prior #ELTchat discussions on the subject of researc… https://t.co/ZtBMiZUHKY
11thhourspecial 2018-02-07T21:36:29 @MoreMsJackson @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C I'd say reading Lightbown and Spada's How Languages are Learned is a grea… https://t.co/OZOETQ0iHu
11thhourspecial 2018-02-07T21:43:39 Not all research has to be hard science. What about statistics of your own classroom? Do you unwittingly spend more… https://t.co/zqqGJoZT44
Marisa_C 2018-02-07T22:06:52 #eltchat  How to start your own small scale research investigations - my story and some advice/suggestions. https://t.co/9N8K58Q0H2
SarhandiSuhail 2018-02-08T07:59:13 @Marisa_C #ELTchat I totally agree. The worst this is that no one pays any attention. Research remains in journals.
tesolmatthew 2018-02-08T08:11:45 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan I spent the majority of my monthly salary on teaching books a couple of times circa 2008 #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2018-02-08T08:44:57 @naomishema @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT a campaign to redesign the research infrastructure to facilit… https://t.co/IqOeS9jt3Y
Marisa_C 2018-02-08T16:51:45 Trying to find some research on learning design - found this very expensive publication - why are these people so c… https://t.co/l54rNrwqkx
KyriakiDer 2018-02-08T18:54:35 Million thanks @fionaljp for sharing this link with such amazing treasure of #ELT articles. It's always such a stru… https://t.co/oX4MxkGpmR

 

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