| User Name |
Universal Time Stamp |
Text |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T18:47:32 |
It's official! Our topic in about 15 minutes is "Academic Research and ELT" - have a look at my short introduction… https://t.co/zQhS8XUsJ2 |
| ELTchat |
2018-02-07T18:48:04 |
#ELTchat topic #Academic Research and ELT https://t.co/6YXYZZl2Bx |
| ELTchat |
2018-02-07T18:54:40 |
"There have been quite a few recent blog posts about the lack of filtering of research to teachers and the poor med… https://t.co/3iHQjBgnnQ |
| eteacherjon |
2018-02-07T18:57:25 |
The letter SSleep tighthttps://t.co/rveFPhQH4n #FBPE… https://t.co/yIiMGbEEr6 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T18:57:41 |
5 minutes to #ELTchat - our topic tonight was suggested by @SueAnnan and @mr_kuo (Kenneth Kuo) we hope you will joi… https://t.co/Vgd9aw8igj |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T18:59:02 |
@eteacherjon May i ask you to stop after this tweet pls - we are about to start our #ELTchat weekly discussion |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:02:37 |
@ELTchat #eltchat oh, is this on now? |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:04:20 |
@RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat It's on since you are here - welcome to #ELTchat - anyone else joining us? |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:05:12 |
@Marisa_C @ELTchat #ELTChat hopefully - it's a valuable and interesting discussion topic! |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T19:06:28 |
@Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat #eltchat Reporting for duty |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:07:08 |
hello #ELTchat ters |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:07:45 |
@LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat Hello and welcome - I LIKE your response to the roll call! :-D #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:07:55 |
@SueAnnan Hello #ELTchat Sue |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:08:25 |
@Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat Hi Marisa! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:08:36 |
@LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat @SueAnnan @fionaljp What no hi for me? Just for Sue :-( sniff #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:08:39 |
Hi there, Marisa, Sue, Fiona ... #ELTchat |
| David__Boughton |
2018-02-07T19:08:54 |
Hi everyone! #eltchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:08:55 |
@ELTchat #eltchat, yes, further, beyond mediation, is how far this research can be put into (immediate) practice by… https://t.co/LDjLX0IE5g |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:09:05 |
@fionaljp @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat oh ok i ok again :-D #Eltchat Hey @GlenysHanson |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:09:09 |
I worry that I'm not always up on what's changing in our profession. As journals can be expensive, the info doesn't… https://t.co/aLqa8tTzGM |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:09:23 |
@Marisa_C @LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat @SueAnnan Hi Marisa!! #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:09:29 |
And Robert... and David. #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:09:44 |
@GlenysHanson Hello! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:09:55 |
@Marisa_C @LinguaBishes @RobertTaylorELT @ELTchat @fionaljp Mwah you. You know we love you#ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:10:10 |
I think @SueAnnan just highlighted the MAIN problem Ts have with reading research #eltchat journals are awfully exp… https://t.co/24UVa4wBHQ |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:11:18 |
Very true - I have been asking Ts recently and most of them were not taught experimental design on their degree cou… https://t.co/jXo9ipJeN9 |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:11:20 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan True! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:11:56 |
How do we filter out the rubbish, too? Some of the research is in its infancy and doesn't seem to relate to practice #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:12:17 |
Well, starting with a thought not a Q. Pre-Delta, I felt found methodology books hard to dip into, nevermind anythi… https://t.co/3OEH8mb8Jp |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:13:00 |
@SueAnnan #eltchat from that, is that an indication of the quality or relevance of the research, or for the need to… https://t.co/M2m7NEsun4 |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:13:02 |
So let's make that a question. How do you #eltchat folk feel about academic research? |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:13:04 |
Experimental design means you also learn how to evaluate research #eltchat so that's another important issue https://t.co/e1w53gRaqg |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:13:19 |
@MoreMsJackson My DipTESOL colleagues will surely agree with you. They found some of the reading material like wadi… https://t.co/DB7Seid59D |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:13:37 |
@SueAnnan I only read what I’m interested in rather reading ‘research' #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:14:19 |
#ELTchat (remember the hashtag) https://t.co/JazzJ0Dnec |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:14:24 |
@RobertTaylorELT I think it isn't easy to determine relevance, but we do need to consider our current practice, so both #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:14:46 |
@MoreMsJackson During Module 2, I was advised to prioritise meth books over academic research, as they're more dire… https://t.co/1XyjKjTPU8 |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:15:30 |
@SueAnnan I must say I choose the research that fits with my feelings and what I've observed in class. Not scientif… https://t.co/FXs9rs5P5I |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:15:40 |
@SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Ah, I see - that’s different. My previous tweet referred to reading for personal TD re re… https://t.co/qpuwg5TW31 |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:15:44 |
@RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson But post Delta, you need to know more about the research and its relevance to your… https://t.co/lZnHhIS46t |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:15:58 |
@LinguaBishes most research is open to debate either because of small populations or wooly exp, design - #eltchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:16:28 |
@SueAnnan The other thing is I'm always reading with my students and my classrooms in mind. How does this apply? If… https://t.co/OFXIbFkIpk |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:16:41 |
@GlenysHanson I do too. But I feel that I'm often on the back foot when things change. #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:17:01 |
@SueAnnan Edit: I only read what I’m interested in rather than reading ‘research' #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:17:09 |
@MoreMsJackson Well, where a meth book may say "What are some good ways to make students aware of lexical cohesion?… https://t.co/04cz0mNIVj |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:17:13 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/u1PqWLdwcD |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:17:49 |
@RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson I am aware of this not as a Delta tutor ruling but as advice to help candidates dea… https://t.co/CLO88gi7E0 |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:17:55 |
@Marisa_C @LinguaBishes And teachers don't always have the right background to see this I think #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:18:18 |
@GlenysHanson I think your classroom observations ARE unofficial research anyway Glenys #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:18:28 |
@SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Yes, that became immediately apparent when Thornbury and Scrivener disappeared from the reading lists(!) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:19:04 |
@MoreMsJackson @LinguaBishes true - remember that refereed journals tend to be written in language that many non-na… https://t.co/knKyvuGFmu |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:19:07 |
@RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson LOL #ELTchat |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T19:19:13 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Good point- teachers need calls to action and academic research doesn't really peddle in that #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:19:56 |
@SueAnnan Good point. Teachers need acccess to research - really important to have journals in staff rooms #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:20:04 |
@SueAnnan @RobertTaylorELT To what extent do you thing all teachers need to be up to speed with research on all are… https://t.co/tanFKsmNy2 |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:20:37 |
Perhaps teachers should carry out independent research on a yearly basis. That way their teaching would be better informed #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:20:38 |
I think academics also insist on using this language - which I call 'gatekeeping' - to appear very learned and impo… https://t.co/7pXIrzEu9Q |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:21:08 |
@SueAnnan No teachers need translators :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:21:23 |
@fionaljp That's not going to happen in my neck of the woods. And many teachers would just avoid the issue if the m… https://t.co/ffnv2IOutZ |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:21:51 |
@SueAnnan Considering the small number of subjects observed by many researchers what all thoughtful teachers do can… https://t.co/ryi0DjBTNz |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:22:01 |
#ELTchat Hi everyone. You may think I'm a ghost but I hope I'm a welcome one. |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:22:06 |
@Marisa_C @LinguaBishes #eltchat narrowing the field down to research reviews is a good way to overcome this, I fin… https://t.co/IZZvRRdGIn |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:22:18 |
@hartle LOvely to have you here #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:22:19 |
@RobertTaylorELT Definitely. More relevant and more readable. We're trusting that the author have done their research/reading. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:22:37 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan How many staff rooms do you know that have journals? #eltchat Apart from a couple, also, have… https://t.co/ayy9FVs3lv |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:23:11 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/dO0Gvs2MQj |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:23:19 |
@hartle WHo are YOU?? #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:23:22 |
@SueAnnan #eltchat this surely depends on the quality of the research, which in turn requires that teachers are tra… https://t.co/oC5UOP8mWj |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T19:23:34 |
@MoreMsJackson @SueAnnan @RobertTaylorELT I like this idea because we only have bandwidth for so many things. I rec… https://t.co/L60WmolMCs |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:23:45 |
@RobertTaylorELT In those examples I see one relevant to lesson ideas and one to teaching approaches #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:23:57 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan Open access research - that would be great! #ELTchat |
| David__Boughton |
2018-02-07T19:24:21 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan How might that work? Compensation for researchers, etc. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:24:21 |
@RobertTaylorELT Our BEsig conference worked in tandem with the REsig last winter. It was quite illuminating what e… https://t.co/69cu74EwOS |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T19:24:36 |
@MoreMsJackson @SueAnnan @RobertTaylorELT I think having teachers interact with research in their specialism is a g… https://t.co/tp594ANUaS |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:24:52 |
@SueAnnan Thanks Sue - forgot hashtag #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:25:06 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan In any case, researchers don't get paid for their contributions to refereed journals! #ELTchat… https://t.co/JmsWHAhXXh |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:25:44 |
@hartle What is it like in your university? #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:26:01 |
@MoreMsJackson #eltchat however, how reliable is the research data? Sure, I can try it as an idea (might not work f… https://t.co/rSt6CGSVoG |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:26:09 |
#ELTchat The ELTJournal is an attempt to bring research to teachers |
| TESOLacademic |
2018-02-07T19:26:29 |
RT @Marisa_C: @fionaljp @SueAnnan In any case, researchers don't get paid for their contributions to refereed journals! #ELTchat and once… |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:26:38 |
@David__Boughton @fionaljp @SueAnnan researchers get grants but they don't get paid for the reports #ELTchat so th… https://t.co/gPwWxqRohW |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:26:47 |
@hartle How much is useful, and how much is navel-gazing? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:27:08 |
I did do a couple of statistics courses at university. I was rubbish at the maths but I did understand that conclus… https://t.co/tms6AhqGuk |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:27:25 |
@hartle ELTJ is one of the most accessible journals for teachers - thsi and TESOL Quarterly #ELTchat |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T19:28:08 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C True, but I have also seen teachers dismiss a concept out of hand because the context of… https://t.co/91o0ALNgDQ |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:28:17 |
My own view is that researchers don't care zilch about teachers - they write for other academics and to promote their careers #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:28:51 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan May I ask what journals we're referring to here? Are they SLA, linguistics, ELT? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:29:06 |
@Marisa_C I'm afraid I agree with that #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:29:08 |
@SueAnnan @hartle Depends what you're after, doesn't it? #eltchatI found, e.g. the study on NNS pausing more freq… https://t.co/4jPXmcNfMS |
| este_moscow |
2018-02-07T19:29:08 |
@Marisa_C Agreed. I, more often than not, get the impression that researchers write with other researchers in mind,… https://t.co/TSAROasUJb |
| David__Boughton |
2018-02-07T19:29:11 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan But the journals need money then? Could this go the way of print newspapers, where ev… https://t.co/wLZtYVeuuY |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:29:32 |
#ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:29:41 |
@David__Boughton @fionaljp @SueAnnan Journals get money for Uni subscriptions #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:30:10 |
@fionaljp Thanks Fiona #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:30:29 |
@David__Boughton @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan I suppose this is where the mediator comes in, but what makes an eff… https://t.co/cUwGfeWYmC |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:30:43 |
RT @fionaljp: #ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn |
| TESOLacademic |
2018-02-07T19:30:44 |
#ELTChat of late I ONLY publish in #OpenAccess #peerreviewed #journals, but this is only possible because I am not… https://t.co/EqiwVexOmQ |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:31:27 |
When the hooha came about learning styles, I was looking for accessible research to prove my point, but it was impe… https://t.co/78JBF0LueW |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:31:41 |
@RobertTaylorELT Back to @Marisa_C's point about the sample size of studies #ELTchat I must confess as someone with… https://t.co/DlXAxGMXS0 |
| AchilleasK |
2018-02-07T19:31:47 |
RT @fionaljp: #ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:32:03 |
Good evening #eltchat. Sorry for being so late! Have been reading previous tweets, trying to catch up. |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:32:08 |
@RobertTaylorELT @David__Boughton @fionaljp @SueAnnan good question CUP used to have a journal which publisehed a… https://t.co/dd7OP0lgVw |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:32:31 |
@naomishema Hi Naomi#ELTchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:33:06 |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle ELTJ is one of the most accessible journals for teachers - thsi and TESOL Quarterly #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:33:20 |
RT @fionaljp: #ELTchat ELT Research Bites have a list of Open Access Journals:https://t.co/AUTs1PF1Kn |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:33:21 |
Here is a list of (mostly) open access journals on my blog as well https://t.co/xtG0Lw4LeM #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:34:27 |
How long does it take for research to make it into classroom practice? If we aren't made aware of it, we can't change much #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:34:27 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C you'll see it a lot more #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:34:32 |
@SueAnnan It is deliberately written in this language because it needs to be admired by other producers of impenetr… https://t.co/wSQuasGS8W |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:34:36 |
@SueAnnan And they have a list of open access journals here: https://t.co/c3jfrZQJr3 #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:35:06 |
Thanks for all the links. #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:35:46 |
@SueAnnan Very interesting question #ELTchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:36:14 |
it’s true that sample sizes count but a sample of 25 for an action research study is fine. #eltchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:36:23 |
#eltchat this reminds me of another point - when seemingly learned people interpret research to suit their beliefs… https://t.co/C5sAnwLw4p |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:37:04 |
RT @GlenysHanson: @SueAnnan And they have a list of open access journals here: https://t.co/c3jfrZQJr3 #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:37:13 |
The format is just as much as barrier than the language. Way beyond using APAor Chicago for the references, sigh... #eltchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:37:14 |
#eltchat eltresearchbites is great and can be read to provide food for thought |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:37:21 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan I did know and find it shocking. I'm hoping such practices will be killed off by the internet. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:37:22 |
@RobertTaylorELT But don't they always? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:37:24 |
@hartle I am sure there are exceptions to this sweeping statement but I have had contact with quite a few at lingui… https://t.co/OyoQcETwb5 |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:37:46 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan Would I be correct in inferring a distrust or slight disdain towards researchers? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:37:53 |
RT @hartle: #eltchat eltresearchbites is great and can be read to provide food for thought |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:37:59 |
RT @RobertTaylorELT: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Would I be correct in inferring a distrust or slight disdain towards researchers? #eltchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:38:18 |
RT @Marisa_C: Here is a list of (mostly) open access journals on my blog as well https://t.co/xtG0Lw4LeM #ELTchat |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T19:38:18 |
@GlenysHanson @SueAnnan Thanks for sharing this project! I was unfamiliar with it. @Linguabishes is also in the bus… https://t.co/mVtCpvxYj2 |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:38:28 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C But other than doing a Master's (I'm assuming this helps), how are teachers without the… https://t.co/4kzBLNahbB |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:38:39 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C Not at all. What I'd like is more dialogue with them. IN a language I can understand #ELTchat And I'm not thick! |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:39:02 |
#eltchat @marisa I’m sure you know much more than yr average PhD student so some would surely be happy to learn |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:39:13 |
@RobertTaylorELT @SueAnnan Not at all - we need their information - I don't think they are interested in passing it… https://t.co/KoJ9OqLXzl |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:39:14 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan It looks good on their CV, supposedly that's supposed to suffice. #eltchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:39:44 |
#eltchat research and educators can interact and complement each other if they cross the bridge from 1 world to the other |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:39:51 |
@SueAnnan Exactly, and teacher can access their ideas easier than they can access the research upon which their ide… https://t.co/Kt2P0AAwSQ |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:40:40 |
I sat through a fascinating session on translanguaging in Elt, but the researcher had toned it down for her audienc… https://t.co/uVlX1uIr3v |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:40:53 |
#eltchat Cambridge English researchers reach out to educators with webinars etc. |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:40:57 |
If you look at many of the comments targeted against teachers, it's quite sad to say how can a T paid 4 euros an ho… https://t.co/QPnhexExdT |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:41:48 |
@hartle Not usually at a good time of day, when teachers are in the classroom. #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:42:09 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Well, this is the issue (or one of them). And how relevant is it that it could feasibly be… https://t.co/Dkgbeh4bKt |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:42:14 |
@SueAnnan There's lots of woolly research, isn't there? For example, what is and is not explicit grammar teaching. #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:42:32 |
RT @hartle: #eltchat research and educators can interact and complement each other if they cross the bridge from 1 world to the other |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:42:51 |
There is no one single solution to the problem#Eleni - Ts need to learn to read & evaluate research- Researchers… https://t.co/9NsgHrXibA |
| este_moscow |
2018-02-07T19:43:14 |
@SueAnnan @hartle When aren’t we, though? :D #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:43:32 |
Good started point - include on TT courses #ELTchat https://t.co/Jfhsq9ABTC |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:44:24 |
@ALiCe__M That's great - but not in our world - I should have become a teacher of French - (BTW it's GREAT to see y… https://t.co/fsYU3JOB3V |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:44:30 |
@SueAnnan Oh gosh I had a flashback to university then. Not all researchers are natural teachers. I thought at the… https://t.co/lxodUF8sBi |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:44:36 |
#eltchat I think teacher training can promote reflection and observation but research may come later |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:45:42 |
@Marisa_C Is there much room for teachers to move towards research? But on the teacher's terms, so not obfuscating… https://t.co/ceE7UXbUbX |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:45:56 |
Perhaps one solution is joint articles - researcher and a teacher. I just had such an experience and the researcher… https://t.co/tjDJJtHPzc |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:46:27 |
#eltchat maybe teachers want to develop discussion and reflection rather than research per se |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:46:39 |
@naomishema Oops. Not helpful for your colleagues #ELTchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:47:06 |
@naomishema #eltchat sounds an interesting experience, Naomi |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:47:16 |
I think courses like the Delta (which you did) and others, encourage and promote a T as researcher construct but th… https://t.co/NU14Xxg0Fv |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:47:21 |
@hartle I think we also need to know about findings that challenge what we are doing in class #ELTchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:47:36 |
#eltchat I teach and do research, & I’m so busy I hardly have time to think. |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:47:47 |
@SueAnnan But now it may get published, On my own it did not... #ELTchat |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T19:47:47 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C There is a movement in North America for "action research," but not sure if that's somet… https://t.co/yjBdcfLDdv |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:48:07 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C I can't remember the stat, but isn't the average English teacher in state schools usuall… https://t.co/0gvDp4Lkau |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:48:14 |
#eltchat the pressure to publish is mind boggling and peer reviews often send you into the depths... |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:48:41 |
#eltchat I publish on https://t.co/jA98gHoqbG when I can, but I’m not always allowed to |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:49:09 |
RT @hartle: #eltchat the pressure to publish is mind boggling and peer reviews often send you into the depths... |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:49:11 |
#eltchat as a hybrid researcher/educator I hope I’d always be happy to talk to everyone! |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:49:22 |
@hartle Does the pressure to publish mean that badly conducted research slips through the net too? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:50:04 |
@MoreMsJackson @RobertTaylorELT That's another issue - low language levels don't allow for comprehension of dense text #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:51:05 |
@hartle I trained to be a researcher but do i have the time? ... once in a blue moon maybe #eltchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:51:12 |
#eltchat @SueAnnan I’m sure it does, but peer reviews are pretty tough. Depends on the publication |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:51:13 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C IELTS research indicates UK "native speakers" are level 6.5 on the IELTS scale #eltchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:51:22 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C If you consider our whole sector, there's got to be cascade of some sorts. Not sure how.… https://t.co/1NgQkd71ri |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:51:51 |
@ALiCe__M Yes, #ELT Alice - ma chere je suis tres hereuse de vous voir ici :-D #ELTchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:52:10 |
#eltchat 1 of my interests is corpora so we set up a Facebook group to involve more teachers CorpusCALL on Facebook |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:52:37 |
@Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT I wonder how accessible even methodology books and journals like ELT are to these teache… https://t.co/BrquGsQsoX |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:52:50 |
@Marisa_C @MoreMsJackson #eltchat there are some journals that, though research-based, are less textually dense. |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:53:05 |
RT @hartle: #eltchat 1 of my interests is corpora so we set up a Facebook group to involve more teachers CorpusCALL on Facebook |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:53:10 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT That's where you need access to a decent library #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2018-02-07T19:53:20 |
@SueAnnan @hartle Yes, what we are doing in class and what we are passing on in training - so important #ELTchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:53:23 |
#eltchat I’d love a world where academics share and develop conversations but... |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:53:26 |
@MoreMsJackson @RobertTaylorELT Not at all #ELTchat |
| eteacherjon |
2018-02-07T19:53:32 |
The letter SSlowcoachhttps://t.co/rveFPhQH4n #FBPE #english… https://t.co/qRfTfNIiZC |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:53:44 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C Those with or without university education? Or on average? #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T19:53:58 |
@SueAnnan @hartle A certain blogger would say so! #eltchat |
| eteacherjon |
2018-02-07T19:53:58 |
Next topicThe letter Bhttps://t.co/rveFPhQH4n #FBPE… https://t.co/ejeI0j4Zdu |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:54:11 |
I recently found out about this website but have not been able to use it properly yet https://t.co/N2E9mVgb8e… https://t.co/EBbDRynIp4 |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T19:54:19 |
@RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Is that an indictment of native speakers or of IELTS? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:54:51 |
@eteacherjon please do not interrupt our #ELTchat - I asked you before we started please stop that! |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:55:06 |
@GlenysHanson @RobertTaylorELT @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C TBH many of the people we meet on a daily basis would fail… https://t.co/8ziCVJZX5F |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:55:11 |
Now that my son is a university student I can once again search ERIC, educational data base. I couldn't since my MA... #eltchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:56:05 |
@Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT So do we have sone responsibility to help bridge the gap? I'm now thinking it's not just… https://t.co/ihC8spseR9 |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:56:50 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT We need to find a way to make the cascade happen #ELTchat Any ideas to start? |
| naomishema |
2018-02-07T19:56:52 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT Hardly accessible IMHO #eltchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:56:55 |
#eltchat @MoreMsJackson I think educators should reach out to researchers. They aren’t monsters just on a parallel track |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T19:57:14 |
RT @SueAnnan: @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT We need to find a way to make the cascade happen #ELTchat Any ideas to start? |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:57:53 |
Good question - how do we break out of this impasse? #ELTchat https://t.co/NxwgkEziOy |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:57:59 |
#eltchat at conferences like IATEFL there are lots of researchers. Jus talk to them about things they say that interest you |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T19:58:56 |
WE are coming to the end of this #ELTchat. I suppose I will have to write the summary- unless one of you would like… https://t.co/epOd2x98cT |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T19:58:59 |
I don't think we called them monsters but they have chosen the academic track and to move ahead on that one it's no… https://t.co/ywDh8QtKZ8 |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T19:59:14 |
#eltchat @Marisa_C or educators can develop their own brand of reflection, action research and publication channels |
| SueAnnan |
2018-02-07T20:00:04 |
@hartle @Marisa_C Yes. That's true- and probably a necessary first step for many #ELTchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T20:00:04 |
#eltchat perhaps most educators are not interested in psychometric research, but many are interested in qualitative studies. |
| este_moscow |
2018-02-07T20:00:21 |
@Marisa_C @hartle Out of interest, are these two roles, teacher and researcher, always compatible? Or do you have t… https://t.co/0g0w6Q37an |
| LinguaBishes |
2018-02-07T20:00:31 |
@Marisa_C I think teacher trainers and curriculum developers have a big role to play here #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T20:00:31 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT From the Ts I know, gotta be cheap, quick and very relevant to the classroom.… https://t.co/lvmoLbTGMA |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:00:49 |
Perhaps we should run a 'How to read and do research MOOC next year on the free TESOL EVO!!! #eltchat |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T20:01:46 |
#eltchat cd be on to something here. Educators researching for educators :-) |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T20:02:27 |
#eltchat what sort of distribution channels she be set up |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2018-02-07T20:02:39 |
@hartle Is this different from shared-data action research? #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T20:02:58 |
@Marisa_C Maybe we should suggest it as a research subject for somebody's PHD: The relationship between researchers… https://t.co/PDmZ5ZA58q |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T20:03:40 |
#eltchat @GlenysHanson Sounds like an excellent topic :-) |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:03:48 |
@SueAnnan I know I've done EVO MOOCs before but I can get a team together easy #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:05:15 |
@GlenysHanson I don't know but even if it did get written it would not solve the problem - and probably sit on some… https://t.co/WyjEHsefaF |
| hartle |
2018-02-07T20:05:39 |
#eltchat bye everyone. Interesting chat :-) |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:06:14 |
I don't think we solved any problems - but we sure did vent a bit - that cannot be bad! #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T20:06:59 |
@Marisa_C Well then, are you up for doing a Ted Talk on the subject, Marisa? #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T20:07:53 |
@hartle No-one I chatted to at IATEFL last year was a researcher. Maybe I just didn't sit next to any of them... Or… https://t.co/yy44rUogrf |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:08:56 |
@MoreMsJackson @hartle IATEFL is a teachers' conference - researchers have other more exclusive events held in hallowed halls :-D #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T20:09:34 |
@Marisa_C I may be wrong, but I feel you have the charisma to it well. I'll find out how you propose someone for a Ted Talk. #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T20:10:34 |
@Marisa_C I think there was some food for thought too, which is not bad #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:11:20 |
@GlenysHanson I don't know about that - but I remember a conference about the CEFR two or three years ago where peo… https://t.co/HH1xh8vEFY |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-02-07T20:11:48 |
@RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C A researcher or their DOS would know how to reformulate and focus the subject. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:13:00 |
I think the only conferences with researchers that I have enjoyed are the two we co-organised when i was on the com… https://t.co/JEaBbwWOm2 |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T20:16:46 |
@Marisa_C @iatefl_ltsig @LaureateIntlU Just given me a thought. Maybe one step should be researcher-SIG engagement.… https://t.co/d8Ii8oBMcl |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:18:24 |
@MoreMsJackson @iatefl_ltsig @LaureateIntlU there is one if you are interested - can put you in touch #eltchat with @danielxerri |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-02-07T20:23:43 |
@ALiCe__M @Marisa_C @hartle I think @Marisa_C was probably meaning teaching events aren't exactly a priority for re… https://t.co/uksf8XvNdZ |
| JessBCN |
2018-02-07T20:26:10 |
@Marisa_C @iatefl_ltsig @LaureateIntlU #ELTchat Last year I helped organize the ELT Research in Action conference… https://t.co/Rvfr7VX2o9 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T20:55:11 |
@ALiCe__M @MoreMsJackson @hartle Not easy but we have to try! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T21:25:13 |
Looks like we are guilty of forgetting to mention at least two prior #ELTchat discussions on the subject of researc… https://t.co/ZtBMiZUHKY |
| 11thhourspecial |
2018-02-07T21:36:29 |
@MoreMsJackson @RobertTaylorELT @Marisa_C I'd say reading Lightbown and Spada's How Languages are Learned is a grea… https://t.co/OZOETQ0iHu |
| 11thhourspecial |
2018-02-07T21:43:39 |
Not all research has to be hard science. What about statistics of your own classroom? Do you unwittingly spend more… https://t.co/zqqGJoZT44 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-07T22:06:52 |
#eltchat How to start your own small scale research investigations - my story and some advice/suggestions. https://t.co/9N8K58Q0H2 |
| SarhandiSuhail |
2018-02-08T07:59:13 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat I totally agree. The worst this is that no one pays any attention. Research remains in journals. |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-02-08T08:11:45 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan I spent the majority of my monthly salary on teaching books a couple of times circa 2008 #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2018-02-08T08:44:57 |
@naomishema @MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C @RobertTaylorELT a campaign to redesign the research infrastructure to facilit… https://t.co/IqOeS9jt3Y |
| Marisa_C |
2018-02-08T16:51:45 |
Trying to find some research on learning design - found this very expensive publication - why are these people so c… https://t.co/l54rNrwqkx |
| KyriakiDer |
2018-02-08T18:54:35 |
Million thanks @fionaljp for sharing this link with such amazing treasure of #ELT articles. It's always such a stru… https://t.co/oX4MxkGpmR |
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