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| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T18:58:45 |
Differentiation is the topic we are talking about today; or mixed ability classes; or mixed level teaching' or what… https://t.co/JWcwo1Ry9W |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:02:32 |
Hello #ELTchattersI'm teaching a class of mixed ability and Nationality at the moment. It's kind of fun #ELTchat |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:02:39 |
@Marisa_C me! #eltchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:03:09 |
I'm also teaching a mixed nationality and mixed ability class at the moment. Just started actually #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:03:29 |
@teacherphili @jonjoTESOL Great! Welcome to both #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:03:38 |
Hi #Eltchat. (Why am I always up at 3am?) I'm interested in differentiation, it faces our teachers often |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:04:05 |
@teacherphili It's always an interesting challenge, but where do you pitch your lessons? #ELtchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:04:28 |
I remember an American colleague who lost her job based on not offering enough #differentiation in her lessons #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:04:33 |
@SueAnnan @teacherphili Moi aussi - very mixed classes #eltchat Do you always have time to prep something special… https://t.co/tBI8DBZIlm |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:05:34 |
I use the students if possible. Get them to do some of the teaching. It helps if they don't all speak the same language. #ELtchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:05:43 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan I've only just started so will see how it goes... but yes - I've a dense theory book for the mo… https://t.co/1OHyEjqz9f |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:05:49 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C I see "differentiation" as a broader topic than "mixed ability" because you could consider l… https://t.co/anqnvfjAbN |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:05:59 |
My school puts Ss of same level together, however many Ss are in levels they don't belong (usually because of a bad placement test) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:06:19 |
Well, if you look at the literature of differentiation it suggests different tasks or focuses for most stages in a… https://t.co/2TL6DzocoC |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:06:23 |
But mine always have enough language to get by. A2 - C1#ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:06:55 |
@MoreMsJackson @SophiaKhan4 This is a given #eltchat - we are not only talking levels here #Eltchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:08:11 |
@SueAnnan Yep, peer teaching, peer feedback, peer monitoring... Got to a point last year where my fast finishers st… https://t.co/G9KVH8yVrX |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:08:16 |
Differentiation for me is dealing with setting additional tasks for ones that finish early and maybe supporting tho… https://t.co/g1jCcyfUls |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:08:27 |
I think that you can use some of the techniques of Demand High teaching with classes of mixed age, ability, motivat… https://t.co/xidXBx9VHB |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:08:42 |
@MoreMsJackson Love that. #ELtchat |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:08:54 |
Although not ELT related, I think primary schools in the UK are considering/returning to a mixed ability class for science/maths #eltchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:09:06 |
@MoreMsJackson @SueAnnan yes that's good. peer - everything #eltchat #differentiation |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:09:41 |
@teacherphili @MoreMsJackson especially in an ELT class. More language is produced #ELtchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:09:59 |
@SueAnnan Interesting. Could you give an example of Demand High for mixed groups? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:10:00 |
@teacherphili @MoreMsJackson @SueAnnan I think peer everything chews up a lot of valuable class time - there needs to be a balance #Eltchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:10:03 |
I have a very motivated class right now, but i'm only 2 lessons in.. it's a 20 week course #eltchat #differentiation |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T19:10:55 |
All my classes were mixed level and ability. Except for 121 how can it be otherwise? #ELtchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:11:29 |
As always, it takes time to get to know a class, what they can do, who the loud ones are, who are the slower ones.… https://t.co/0g6qPm6w6x |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:11:32 |
I think lots of classes have a spiky profile when it comes to the skills they manage #ELtchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:12:41 |
@teacherphili Yes. My most talkative student is the weakest, and the most able is a quiet mouse #ELtchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:13:02 |
@SueAnnan 'Empty vessels make most noise' #eltchat #differentiation |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:13:06 |
Abslutely - for me it's the norm #eltchat - lots of CB or other exercises can be distributed or shared out #eltcat https://t.co/FMA4iY0zLb |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:14:16 |
@teacherphili I love students who don't care about their language mistakes and keep on talking. It's a refreshing a… https://t.co/NPwBHruvFe |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:14:22 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Yes, they're not quite the same are they? I'm interested in how teachers differentiate app… https://t.co/X4rZjy7djr |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:14:35 |
@Marisa_C @teacherphili @SueAnnan Sure it takes more time, but learners get to use English a lot while doing it. De… https://t.co/aSuXcLHGHZ |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:15:15 |
I offer my students the chance to answer the questions they can manage, and share out the tasks #ELtchat I also fi… https://t.co/PBZvsq1Mci |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:15:39 |
@jonjoTESOL Indeed. I'm all for making mistakes - the students I mean - it's the norm. But often the weaker sts tr… https://t.co/NzFpXX1Yew |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:16:52 |
From a recent webinar on the topic - how to do task differentiation without killing yourself `#ELtchat https://t.co/pfdwHeONKo |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:17:08 |
Its also good to make your exercises open ended, so that they can complete them as true according to themselves #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T19:17:11 |
@SueAnnan @teacherphili I once had a class with a complete beginner, someone who'd lived the States for 10 years an… https://t.co/L8g04YvOu9 |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:17:49 |
@GlenysHanson @teacherphili I think teachers can be more tolerant, or less, on occasion #ELtchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:18:15 |
@GlenysHanson Absolutely - but it makes a big diff if they vary within a limited parameter or a wide one. Think it… https://t.co/JXsow6skU3 |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:18:56 |
@teacherphili Usually the weaker speakers in my school are more reserved. It's the stronger speakers who talk too m… https://t.co/zvTMfvAk8F |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:19:10 |
This problem is very marked in poory put together ESP classes - similar jobs but different levels is doable but dif… https://t.co/GU2f7dUDhk |
| Englishin3d |
2018-01-17T19:19:37 |
Haven't got many practical ideas but somehow I tend to feel I should make things more challenging rather than less.… https://t.co/10xorrwNEj |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:20:16 |
@Marisa_C Yes. I've seen that one. I had the accountants and secretaries, and their bosses!!It was a nightmare #ELtchat |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:20:50 |
#eltchat - Hi! Sorry for being late! I always teach incredibly mixed ability, so have morphed into a learning center... |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:21:00 |
@Englishin3d Its hard to pitch it right, isn't it? #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:21:04 |
poorly put together is what i meant (forthe transcript) #Eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:21:42 |
@naomishema Hello Learning centre. Nice to see you #ELtchat |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:21:53 |
awesome! #eltchat https://t.co/5WeKFvU1gQ |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T19:22:05 |
@SueAnnan @teacherphili I've had difficult teachers as students too. But this group were wonderful. We were packed… https://t.co/qXv8M6tdv2 |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:22:08 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Sounds like a case of "we want the English, you give us the English, and we'll finish before lunch" #ELTchat |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:22:21 |
@jonjoTESOL I've done Socrative dialogues with Saudi sts in Riyadh - as you may have done in Jeddah. The whole exer… https://t.co/gB2rbBx0nx |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:22:22 |
@jonjoTESOL Company trying to save money is the answer - what I said is same jobs is more doable (have done this ve… https://t.co/hsw0tAdGTU |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:23:17 |
I prefer differentiating in my GE classes than my BE ones #ELtchat |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:23:54 |
@teacherphili I've never heard of Socrative dialogues before. I'll be sure to Google that one. Any thing you can advise/tips? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:23:55 |
@jonjoTESOL @SueAnnan esp if diff ranks in company - like staff manager with technicians or clerical staff - yikes… https://t.co/Pqi2Vr31MK |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:24:16 |
@SophiaKhan4 Well there's individual tasks where learners can choose which option they prefer, or group tasks where… https://t.co/YQAeqdsya1 |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:24:45 |
Surprisingly, games r a way to let weak learners participate equally - same game, different task, or weak learner plays teacher. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:24:50 |
@Marisa_C @jonjoTESOL I'm definitely with you on that one. When the boss is in the class, and HE is less able than his team!!!!! #ELtchat |
| Englishin3d |
2018-01-17T19:24:58 |
@SueAnnan Pair work sounds good! And giving them thinking time first if some are less confident speakers #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:25:20 |
@teacherphili @jonjoTESOL And teaching them how to involve and elicit opinions from others? (I don't know much abou… https://t.co/ilDfjIv71Q |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:25:28 |
@jonjoTESOL My second class in Riyadh was low-level sts - i was asked to do Socrative Dialogues - and I had no idea… https://t.co/vB2bNyQut7 |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:26:01 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan What would you do now as am experienced teacher? Insist on multiple classes? Have a workshop of… https://t.co/ZbEiVOjdtN |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:26:19 |
@Englishin3d Yes. Or making sure that each has a role to play in pairs #ELtchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T19:26:34 |
@Marisa_C @jonjoTESOL So you're say the problem is not really the different levels, but the circs, the company ethos. #ELtchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:26:44 |
@teacherphili @jonjoTESOL I'd like to hear more about this from an ELT perspective. Blog post/article in your future?? #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:27:15 |
For a lot of the other ways in which ss differ, e.g. analytical vs gestalt, etc, a lot of variety in the lesson a g… https://t.co/59T4AVD4MQ |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:27:20 |
What about different ability in receptive skills? #ELTchat |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:27:47 |
@teacherphili Great tip, I'll get onto that one. Cheers! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:28:02 |
@jonjoTESOL @Marisa_C As a more experienced teacher, I find it less of a bother than I did when I was a new teacher… https://t.co/8MAyW7SCgL |
| landlarcapa1980 |
2018-01-17T19:28:02 |
RT @olafelch: A new #ELTchat poll has been posted. http://twtpoll.com/00xb1i What do you want to talk about? |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:28:18 |
It's always good to use varied materials, visuals as well as audio. and printed text #eltchat https://t.co/M7Ag5VpcWS |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:28:27 |
@GlenysHanson @jonjoTESOL IN a company situ the needs are well defined and you can find lang up or down to help lev… https://t.co/sjbxVeouC9 |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:28:30 |
@SophiaKhan4 @teacherphili I second the blog post! I'd read and comment #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:29:19 |
@naomishema Isn't that what we normally do, anyway? #ELtchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T19:29:57 |
sorry for joining late. Interesting topic #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:30:03 |
@SueAnnan Yeah, I guess so. Sorry! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:30:05 |
Wo tweeted this rather bitter memory of the past ! #eltchat man who took the money and ran! Yikes! https://t.co/JLUuR2Pvs5 |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:30:20 |
@naomishema What do you mean by varied materials in this context? I guess my original Q should have stated for deve… https://t.co/UjlPd8McN4 |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:30:24 |
@jonjoTESOL @SophiaKhan4 Oh wow. Got so much going on at the moment, but it's a good idea. Meanhile, I can share a… https://t.co/vryOhx3F92 |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T19:30:30 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @jonjoTESOL I used to work a lot for the French army and when the weakest was the General... I'… https://t.co/bHeuskb2GH |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:31:16 |
@GlenysHanson @SueAnnan @jonjoTESOL BIG problem yes #eltchat |
| jonjoTESOL |
2018-01-17T19:31:31 |
@teacherphili @SophiaKhan4 Amazing - will definitely help my Ss - cheers! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:32:01 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @jonjoTESOL Oh yes. I know exactly where you are coming from. I did a training session in M… https://t.co/0AKGTiaHYJ |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:32:48 |
@jonjoTESOL @SophiaKhan4 ignore the other stuff. scroll down to the one about teaching at KSU #differentiation #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:32:58 |
@MoreMsJackson Some mild learning disabilities show up only in a foreign language, particularly if the alphabet is… https://t.co/Y3ZymZV6l1 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:33:28 |
@SueAnnan The ghost of #ELtchat past!!!!! |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T19:34:27 |
@MoreMsJackson @naomishema both variety and variation are important #eltchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:34:33 |
@naomishema I kinda see what you mean #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:34:54 |
@naomishema @MoreMsJackson I mostly work with Europeans, but even they don't have the same cultural background. So… https://t.co/B1xZzfsPlZ |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:36:09 |
@leoselivan @MoreMsJackson @naomishema Isn't that a given, Leo? #ELtchat |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:36:19 |
@SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson Background knowledge really influences comprehension abilities #eltchat. Can create big differences in class. |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:37:35 |
@MoreMsJackson @naomishema Naomi, you must be the queen of having to deal with differentiation! I have experienced… https://t.co/JuIIod2ykl |
| teacherphili |
2018-01-17T19:37:43 |
Sorry, gotta go. Important football match on BBC TV. #eltchat My adopted team v @russell1955 's team. Please s… https://t.co/UP6bZlHpiE |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:38:18 |
@naomishema @MoreMsJackson I agree. Today's students were split into Germans, Austrians and Swiss Germans, and Fren… https://t.co/nANXGYAXo8 |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T19:38:32 |
@SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson @naomishema well, in a sense, differential teaching is a given too wouldn't you say ? - al… https://t.co/X0wQIgmn0Z |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:38:40 |
@naomishema @SueAnnan Definitely agree background knowledge (schemata) is important. Good point that it can differ widely #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:38:58 |
@leoselivan @MoreMsJackson @naomishema Mais Oui #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:40:01 |
May be an easy solution for receptive skills might be to write a batch of questions and divide up numbers - early f… https://t.co/eVCbpE6gLS |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T19:40:05 |
sorry if I missed it (I joined 10 mins ago) - are we looking at a specific aspect or DL in general? cc @sueannan #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T19:40:44 |
@SophiaKhan4 @MoreMsJackson It's crucial to have some tasks some students can do on their own while I work with oth… https://t.co/aEseu5tp39 |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:40:45 |
DL in general I think. #ELtchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T19:41:00 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @jonjoTESOL To be fair, I also had in class some wonderful colonels who were fantastic at helpi… https://t.co/Pd4FHeS6WK |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T19:41:38 |
@Marisa_C ...or have compulsory and optional - I often do that #eltchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:42:15 |
@Marisa_C Sure, if you're testing receptive skills rather than developing them. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:42:27 |
@leoselivan @Marisa_C Yes. My students enjoy having choice about which ones they complete #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:42:56 |
@MoreMsJackson Pardon? Don't see what you mean or how that is correct #Eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:43:15 |
RT @leoselivan: @Marisa_C ...or have compulsory and optional - I often do that #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:43:17 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C If you're developing skills, don't you just work with everyone? #ELTChat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T19:43:43 |
She is! #eltchat https://t.co/iRwtICi7Oo |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:44:14 |
@SueAnnan @MoreMsJackson In the training phase where guidance is given on the process - actual Qs don't have to be the same #Eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:45:49 |
#ELtchat https://t.co/Qdm7XPd2ZX |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:47:53 |
@Marisa_C Assuming you meant students are having to answer questions about the text? For listening, I'd refer to Fi… https://t.co/YxHcKLFeTV |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:49:06 |
@Marisa_C Depends on aims though? Specific info can do "any word" listening (1 word, 10, any! and swap/share), or d… https://t.co/wutFwzPmxh |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:50:06 |
So we are seeing differentiation as a fairly standard challenge in our classes, whether level, skill, culture, abil… https://t.co/YdhGj1Fxc0 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:50:26 |
If all else works (class dynamics, T-S relationships) to identify degree of difficulty of tasks - and suggest that… https://t.co/lsCBJZoeGG |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T19:50:54 |
For fear of stating the obvious, for vocab tasks you can have graded activities on 3 levels, e.g. gapfill with(out) a 'word bank' #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T19:50:57 |
@leoselivan Yes, if there's no challenge it's boring and students turn off. The difficulty is in. #ELTchat finding… https://t.co/DVjuTVPhre |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:51:32 |
@Marisa_C perhaps by being in the class in the first place, the weaker student IS taking up the challenge? #ELTchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:52:10 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C But if we're considering mixed groups, some Ss could be proficient at what sub-skill/strategy y… https://t.co/fKKfClilMF |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:52:33 |
@SophiaKhan4 I don't think the Qs are at issue in the question of testing vs developing skills or strategies - it's… https://t.co/TkzwCyCiPj |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:52:42 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C Use them as your models #ELtchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T19:53:14 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C Note taking is a good one #ELTchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:54:41 |
@MoreMsJackson @Marisa_C I think that depends how you handle feedback? I know some Ts focus on just 'right answers'… https://t.co/h3DGl9Z1dN |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:56:27 |
@SophiaKhan4 @MoreMsJackson True - handling feedback another way to differentiate #eltchat Teacher degree of tolerance of error yet another |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:56:38 |
We are coming to the end of this #ELTChat and going into injury time/ I mean slow burn :-) Continue to chat to you… https://t.co/hurWE3ZBOh |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T19:58:21 |
@SophiaKhan4 @MoreMsJackson Feedback on the process of getting right or wrong often missing from lessons - most Ts… https://t.co/hPJoxG7OuL |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T19:58:48 |
@Marisa_C Yes, I agree with that and just tweeted about it. Just saying that if your aims are eg to help sts get th… https://t.co/0v2ZmcKAwU |
| SueAnnan |
2018-01-17T19:59:56 |
@Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 @MoreMsJackson You could ask the others in the class _ did you hear that? Do you think it's right? etc #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:00:35 |
@SophiaKhan4 Sure - yes, no objection here #eltchat I think gist itself tho not it issue in level difficulties - it… https://t.co/QjchJAqW2y |
| naomishema |
2018-01-17T20:00:54 |
Great chatting with you all, as always! Have a good week! #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:01:56 |
@Marisa_C @MoreMsJackson Yes, I think feedback if often treated as an afterthought, or 'answers' but it's really th… https://t.co/aJwzTSJG7A |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:03:01 |
@Marisa_C Aways in favour of some quick and dirty peer-teaching! #ELtchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T20:03:55 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C @MoreMsJackson Maybe interesting to have an #ELTchat on feedback sometime. or has it already been done? |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:04:31 |
Got to go as well - anyone keen to write us an awesome summary of all our pearls of wisdom? :-) #Eltchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:05:03 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C Like! Are we talking about pre-teaching before Reading or Listening? It's been shown not to… https://t.co/DVAjH2JnLP |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:05:40 |
@leoselivan @SophiaKhan4 where how who which #eltchat :-) quote pls |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T20:05:45 |
@GlenysHanson @SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C "feedback" is a very broad topic though #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:06:28 |
@Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 I'll look it up #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:07:25 |
@leoselivan @Marisa_C Maybe because hearing it isn't the same as knowing its meaning? And processing it when litera… https://t.co/74X4DK8ovN |
| GlenysHanson |
2018-01-17T20:07:56 |
@MoreMsJackson @SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C Yes, Elizabeth, l different people mean different things by "feedback". Be in… https://t.co/6uekcQyjMf |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:08:46 |
Was thinking along similar lines thanks Sophia - been doing some work on training for sound linking prior to lineti… https://t.co/oXLix6wnLr |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:10:29 |
@Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 and here it is - on my own blog! :) I'd forgotten #eltchat https://t.co/FjjScpo1if |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:10:54 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @MoreMsJackson I'd be keen - skilled feedback on controlled practice and receptive tasks...#ELtchat |
| MoreMsJackson |
2018-01-17T20:11:14 |
@GlenysHanson @SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C I'd think there would be potential for more than one week's discussion if the… https://t.co/B2QR1s4jfu |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:12:01 |
Will keep an eye on this good discussion #eltchat night for now everyone #Eltchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:12:10 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C yes that's what I think - processing when just learnt isn't easy. Especially maybe if we pre… https://t.co/AlIfWzjax2 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:14:06 |
@leoselivan @SophiaKhan4 Yes OK the way this research was done I didn't expect it to work - this a problem of the r… https://t.co/6YH8HdXwK1 |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:15:05 |
@leoselivan @SophiaKhan4 the proper way to do this research is activate schemas and cursiosity and what not and hav… https://t.co/BI69kibueW |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:15:08 |
@leoselivan @Marisa_C Thanks! What does 'repetition of input' mean? Does #2 mean repeating #1 (background info?) Bu… https://t.co/h8nNdJFmGl |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:17:04 |
well the study has been cited many times - so quite authoritative, I'd say #eltchat and only 1 group receive vocab… https://t.co/K6c9x28YRJ |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:17:51 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C just playing the recording again - very effective, IMO. The other day Ss themselves told me… https://t.co/HzenUUBW3R |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:18:07 |
@Marisa_C @leoselivan It's interesting though as a) many Ts think decontextualised vocab teaching is 'what you do'… https://t.co/hiXiHmpyMW |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:18:51 |
@leoselivan Let's set up our own more authoritative study :-D - too many factors changed in each group for me to co… https://t.co/ex66GADNxq |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:19:36 |
@leoselivan @Marisa_C Oh! The listening input! Doh. Thanks, yes I see #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:19:41 |
@leoselivan @SophiaKhan4 this is very true - our students say same - #Eltchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:19:55 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C it all depends on the aims really. Is it vocab that is essential to understanding the text ?… https://t.co/07uV28Owgc |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:20:37 |
@Marisa_C a replication? by all means. I'm in. #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:21:16 |
@Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 exam prep students or Gen Eng? #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:21:18 |
@Marisa_C @leoselivan I have Ts who just want to play and replay the audio though "till everyone has understood" wh… https://t.co/4qqKN5DdGJ |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:22:29 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C yes but you can see it as teaching vs testing, or in this case, teaching vs real life :) so… https://t.co/aQsnlz82Yw |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:22:36 |
@leoselivan But I bet key vocab came into activating background knowledge...#ELtchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:23:49 |
@leoselivan @Marisa_C But do you count that as context/background knowledge or vocab? #ELtchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:24:12 |
@SophiaKhan4 yes, but that's the thing. They did background knowledge (#1) in L1 !! First, I was like 'What'? But a… https://t.co/jfWfJheI50 |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:25:04 |
@leoselivan @Marisa_C Again depends how you use it. Replaying audio to nth degree not useful for 99% of class. But… https://t.co/RYJmYp8Wqc |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:25:09 |
Lovely post on teaching refugee children by @efitzouri https://t.co/h57DuQ3fQL #eltchat #edchatie |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:25:39 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C In the case of "astronaut" it's vocab, but yes the two often overlap #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:26:09 |
@leoselivan Oh...interesting! It is priming though, no? #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:26:55 |
An appropriate Blip for Mixed level teaching :-) Dedicated to all #eltchat folk ♫ https://t.co/Vnu2gFkBH3 |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:28:24 |
@SophiaKhan4 I suppose so but that's what listening is all about isn't it? When you're at an airport listening to a… https://t.co/GtqoXGkaO9 |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:28:51 |
@SophiaKhan4 we're slow burning big time today! #eltchat cc @SueAnnan |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:31:59 |
@leoselivan @Marisa_C Yes...but not always. Bugs me how many books/teachers go decontextualised. #ELtchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:32:55 |
@leoselivan Yes, I'm not disagreeing. Just objecting to decontextualised pre-teaching #ELtchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
2018-01-17T20:33:37 |
@leoselivan @SueAnnan I'd better go to bed. My sleep habits are rubbish. Thanks all for the #ELtchat :) |
| Marisa_C |
2018-01-17T20:34:04 |
@SophiaKhan4 @leoselivan Lack of context is the norm - half understood or not at all by most people who use the term #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
2018-01-17T20:48:53 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C let's leave it for another #eltchat - Teaching Vocab: in or out of context? I took part in a… https://t.co/PlliAnMzKB |
| EdChatEU |
2018-01-19T16:44:17 |
RT @Marisa_C: From a recent webinar on the topic - how to do task differentiation without killing yourself `#ELtchat https://t.co/pfdwHeONKo |
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