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| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:13:10 |
@MatthewEllman @SueAnnan Hello both, out & about so only have my phone tonight #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:14:05 |
@SueAnnan Gender equity in ELT conferences, according to @ELTchat #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:15:15 |
Oh joy :-) As a member of BEsig, I think we have great gender equality. In fact we often win Fair List awards #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:16:11 |
@fionaljp @MatthewEllman Hi Fiona #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:16:30 |
@MatthewEllman Hi Matthew #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:17:08 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp Hi Sue, hi Fiona! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:17:34 |
I know that it is a concern for some people, but as many women don't put themselves forward, how can you balance the gender #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:18:00 |
@SueAnnan Has anyone done a count of conference speakers and come up with some numbers? #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:18:48 |
@MatthewEllman @SueAnnan Hello #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:19:31 |
@MatthewEllman I've seen the odd programme that looked White male heavy, but if you say yes, without knowing who el… https://t.co/s887CrWJPG |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:20:07 |
@SueAnnan Well there can be no excuses where plenary speakers are concerned...! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:20:36 |
@MatthewEllman So who is at fault? #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:21:35 |
The onus must surely be on conference organisers to find a balance; are white males expected to stop applying to speak? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:22:06 |
@MatthewEllman No. And publishers might be partly to blame too #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:22:55 |
@SueAnnan How so? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:23:53 |
@MatthewEllman Most of their authors are White Males and they often pay to send them to promote materials #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:24:44 |
Do you think that women have a crisis of confidence? #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:25:40 |
@SueAnnan Hmm... hard to say no if a publisher is sponsoring your conference, I suppose! #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:27:52 |
NOPE! I'm here - whew! What a morning. So busy, and I *was* online but just got SO caught up. Anyway, hello guys!… https://t.co/RIvPnJgYDE |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:27:52 |
@MatthewEllman Yes. And I have seen that in action. But you're right that organisers can help to balance the plenary speakers #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:28:15 |
@SueAnnan Not sure I can answer that, but I do think anyone going for their 1st conference as a speaker needs someo… https://t.co/wXsRKgHkL7 |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:28:44 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @MatthewEllman gender balance at conferences. Just been praising BESIG #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:29:11 |
Hey ELTweeters! We're chatting about Gender Equity at ELT Conferences and related matters. I was late, it's okay yo… https://t.co/uyKEWZC7KV |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:29:39 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan @MatthewEllman Gender Equity at ELT Conferences #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:29:49 |
@MatthewEllman We have @kirstenwaechter who does a sterling job as mentor and just done a swapshop for new presenters #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-10-25T18:29:56 |
Hi all. Am on a terrible connection.#ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:30:16 |
@GlenysHanson Hi Glenys #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:30:31 |
@SueAnnan @MatthewEllman Iatefl has also had a balance in gender for the past 15 plus years. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:31:11 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @MatthewEllman True. We all feature regularly on the Fair List #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:32:28 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/UIQCGHygAp |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:32:53 |
@MatthewEllman Onus must surely be on women to come forward too. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:33:06 |
Where are the conferences which are still causing problems? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:33:46 |
@fionaljp @MatthewEllman absolutely. I said that before, but if a publisher is bankrolling the day- you don't always have a choice #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:33:53 |
just attended @WAESOL’s #WAESOL17 w/ F keynote (Dr. Grant) &think went to 2 F and 1 M led sessions. As usual, maj.… https://t.co/1XCuM8KnAx |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:35:06 |
@tesolmatthew @WAESOL personally, I go to the sessions which interest- never thinking about M or F speakers. I susp… https://t.co/05On44Uj8e |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:36:10 |
@Marisa_C Mwah. Marisa Mou. #eltchat You help make gender balance at conferences as you put yourself into the fram… https://t.co/n5omPK7TUh |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:36:13 |
@SueAnnan @WAESOL Oh, absolutely. I’m sure most if not all do the same #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:36:26 |
@fionaljp @MatthewEllman It took me a long time before I began doing that. But a good place to start is with local conferences. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:36:54 |
I believe the problems are mostly created by Teacher Association Boards - women members prefer men speakers - cat behaviour #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:37:06 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @fionaljp @MatthewEllman And nowadays you can dip your toe in by way of webinars too #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:37:13 |
@SueAnnan @MatthewEllman Hopefully times are changing and there will be more women in publishing/ bankrolling too #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:37:38 |
@fionaljp @MatthewEllman Choosing plenary speakers for iatefl is like a puzzle, topic, gender, nationalty etc to balance. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:37:38 |
@SueAnnan Thank you - am not a top keynote speaker - just a smalltime one #eltchat you need to have published and be sponsored by publishers |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:38:06 |
@Marisa_C So does my Boss. We are much more likely to get Hugh or Adrian than a woman #ELTChat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:38:42 |
I don't know #ELTchat what's a recent example of a conference or organization, etc. being "called out" for imbalanc… https://t.co/HUWrGeclSm |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:38:44 |
However - I must say I get really mad at women speakers pushing themselves to keynote positioning JUST to keep the gender balance #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:39:28 |
@Marisa_C And I'd rather NOT listen to the token woman on a panel, just because.... #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:39:33 |
@Marisa_C Is this a thing? #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:39:37 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @MatthewEllman Sounds like a good basis for change #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:39:45 |
@fionaljp @MatthewEllman Some conferences get other funding, then they have more choice. #eltchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:40:13 |
@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @fionaljp Last online conference I attended had a 50/50 split: https://t.co/DgHuE9Mf2m #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:40:47 |
@tesolmatthew I have seen it happen recently - hopefully ppl have more sense #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:41:17 |
@tesolmatthew @SueAnnan @WAESOL Agree. I look for what interests me? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:41:35 |
Isn't there a bit of sour grapes sometimes? I can't remember ever seeing a problem with the balance at any conf. I've been to #Eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:41:47 |
Our SIG @iatefl_ltsig has been winning the Fair List award every year for the last 3 #eltchat - we do make an effort but choose gd ppl too! |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:42:07 |
@Marisa_C @iatefl_ltsig Yes, so does BEsig #ELTChat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:42:28 |
Seems like a lot of progress has been made in this area, no? Gone are the days when men truly dominated the most vi… https://t.co/75hdj4ITBg |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:42:33 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan @MatthewEllman Working on a project with mostly women. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:42:57 |
I think so Sue mou - but having said that, I have seen how fiercely the men biggies protect their patch!!!!… https://t.co/mVf4wSbCdt |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:43:03 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @fionaljp @MatthewEllman But no-one is shouting the odds about the lack of men! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:43:47 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Not sure. I get asked now fairly often. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:44:19 |
@Marisa_C Agree. Not ok for either gender. #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:44:56 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan @MatthewEllman Sounds interesting. What is the project? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:44:57 |
Just had a great female moderator from Trinity. They are 50-50 split, and we see a mix of good people #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:44:59 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan I am asked more often these days as well but this a recent thing #eltchat may be more pp… https://t.co/3BKf3hdJRW |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:45:02 |
@fionaljp @MatthewEllman Not sure what you mean Fiona. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:45:52 |
@Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe Perhaps people are wary until your name is prominent? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:46:25 |
@Clare2ELT @tesolmatthew Will have a look. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:47:21 |
@tesolmatthew There was a fuss about PACE in Poland and a conference in Brno recently. #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:47:30 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @MatthewEllman Sorry.meant to reply to your previous tweet re working on a project with women. Hard to #eltchat on phone |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:48:02 |
@tesolmatthew All the other conferences I've been to recently were balanced. #eltchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:48:23 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe Comes back to your point about publishers and authors, Sue #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:48:38 |
I wouldn't like to be invited to keep a gender balance. I think invitees should stand on merit #ELTChat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:49:09 |
@MatthewEllman Not dure id peoply apply to be plenary speakers. They are usually invited. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:49:22 |
Publishers are behind many of the choices and many more male authors around #eltchat - is it because the wife gives them time for writing... |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:50:00 |
...cont... while female authors have to do the writing ON TOP of everything else they do? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:50:02 |
@Marisa_C Cause the wife is way too busy..juggling life! #ELTchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:50:22 |
@SueAnnan Totally agree. Also think there are enough good male and female speakers for this to happen! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:51:04 |
@MatthewEllman I agree. But I still think you need to be a 'Name' to draw the people in #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:51:33 |
Maybe this is silly but I'd like to see more full-time teachers as keynoters #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:52:12 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan @MatthewEllman Can't say at the moment. Hopefully soon. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:52:23 |
It is a bit when most teachers can't afford to go to any conferences on their pay #eltchat :-( https://t.co/pw5TbTHMrg |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:52:26 |
@tesolmatthew And when would we have the time, pray? #ELTChat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:52:41 |
Sounds like this is an issue that the ELT industry has done well on - credit where's it's due #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:53:28 |
@SueAnnan They'd be Dogme keynotes, sans huge planning? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:53:30 |
@Marisa_C Thank goodness for simulcasts and livestreaming of talks #eltchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:54:20 |
@SueAnnan All the 'names' in this chat are female... Except @tesolmatthew :) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:54:23 |
@tesolmatthew @SueAnnan I think they do that a lot in the UK via teach meets - when anyone can get up and for 5-10'… https://t.co/BFt4lAWZ82 |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:55:38 |
@tesolmatthew Not even a little bit silly. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T18:56:02 |
With all due respect how many times haven't we all heard the same tired old talk by some of the 'manes" (masculine names) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:56:15 |
@MatthewEllman @tesolmatthew and your good self #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:56:32 |
@MatthewEllman @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Maybe. But I also recommend people I think would be good. #eltchat |
| TESOLacademic |
2017-10-25T18:56:58 |
#ELTChat 4 me not about protecting turf I get invited coz of my work on mobile assisted language use or TESOLac = my niche & I'm white M! |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:57:05 |
@Marisa_C I think that's starting to change. The recording makes it annoying to see the same thing more than once now #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T18:57:25 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @MatthewEllman Confused now as think I did reply to correct thread re project, didn’t I? #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T18:57:31 |
@SueAnnan @MatthewEllman Go Matthews! #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T18:57:34 |
@Marisa_C Some are full-time writers. #eltchat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T18:57:41 |
@SueAnnan @tesolmatthew You're far too kind Sue :) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T18:58:37 |
We will be crossing over to the slow burn mode in a few mins. Keep chatting #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T19:00:10 |
I do think things are changing tho slowly -social media has been instrumental in helping unpublished colleagues become known #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T19:00:33 |
@Marisa_C I've never heard of "cat behavior" in this context #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T19:00:46 |
@MatthewEllman Also seems most TAs and organisations like Iatefl and Tesol have pretty good gender balance on boards. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T19:01:20 |
@tesolmatthew There's a lot of that in local committees - they do bring out the worst in some ppl #eltchat why i stay away! |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T19:01:22 |
@SueAnnan Consider my hand raised! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T19:01:32 |
As always, at this time, must love you and leave you. Dinner is calling :-) #ELTChat Same time next week?Thanks for sharing........ |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T19:01:57 |
@SueAnnan Absolutely! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-10-25T19:01:59 |
@MatthewEllman You are a star. I'll send the transcript tomorrow, after the slowburn #eLTChat |
| MatthewEllman |
2017-10-25T19:02:02 |
@Marisa_C Don't know what I'd have done as a teacher without social media, and #ELTchat! |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T19:02:20 |
Hear hear! #ELTchat https://t.co/StWvama7LM |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T19:02:31 |
@Marisa_C I believe both Sarah Mercer and Jane Setter are fulltime. Does university count? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T19:03:30 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Well, university work is not like your teaching schedule or mine dear Marjorie - as far as I know...#ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T19:03:32 |
Ppl mention "u need NAMES" 4keynotes, but if content is highlighted I don't see why. If it's not org who train us for this, who? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T19:04:17 |
@tesolmatthew association urban myth is that ppl will not come without names - has this been tested? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2017-10-25T19:05:15 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Different people go to local conferences so we do repeat talks. Takes days to prepare sometimes. #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T19:05:17 |
@Marisa_C it should be! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T19:05:26 |
For example - I don't know any of the plenary speakers of iatefl for next year but i will go #eltchat am sure they are big names somewhere |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T19:06:49 |
@TESOLacademic Yes, it’s got to be about ‘what’ not ‘who’ #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-10-25T19:06:50 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan I know this - and tho i have miles of TT input materials, they are not TALKS! #eltchat Loadsav prep involved |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T19:14:00 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe Fair enough #eltchat - not gender related |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-25T19:16:36 |
@Marisa_C Very true ☹️ #eltchat |
| seburnt |
2017-10-25T21:20:19 |
Sorry I missed this great topic... otherwise engaged #eltchat https://t.co/etp40rHBoz |
| lexicojules |
2017-10-25T21:56:27 |
@MatthewEllman @SueAnnan @NicolaPrentis kept track for a long time & there are definitely a significant noumber tha… https://t.co/ldUUy0ivpm |
| lexicojules |
2017-10-25T21:59:23 |
@SueAnnan @MatthewEllman I wouldn't say there are more male writers, but they tend to be a bit pushier about speaking #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-25T23:51:41 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/hAOlIeLKbl |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-10-26T01:05:47 |
@SueAnnan Yes yes yes why not to other things as a whole group than a passive lecture traditional keynote for god’s… https://t.co/iTFqfAkEcq |
| fionaljp |
2017-10-26T07:37:31 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @MatthewEllman Trying to find a balance #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2017-10-26T10:26:20 |
@SueAnnan "merit" is a grey area if women are not given the opportunity to show how good they are in the first place #eltchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2017-10-26T10:33:29 |
The myth of meritocracy exists because we want to believe that society is fair but we know it isn't. #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2017-10-26T10:37:36 |
System justification #eltchat #genderequity https://t.co/OQQYquentd |
| cecilianobreelt |
2017-10-26T10:41:59 |
Let's not justify or normalise inequalities, shall we? #ELTchat #genderequity |
| MarekKiczkowiak |
2017-10-26T14:28:44 |
@tesolmatthew I think that's a very good idea. I'd like to see some new faces too. And more diversity #ELTchat |
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