| SueAnnan |
2017-09-13T17:51:19 |
#ELTchat hello all. Who's around for tonight's offering of teacher development? |
| ELTchat |
2017-09-13T17:52:20 |
In about 10 minutes join us for the 1st #ELTchat on developing literacy in L2 learners |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T17:56:24 |
@SueAnnan Hi Sue, I'm here. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-09-13T17:56:51 |
@GlenysHanson Hi Glenys. I think we're early tonight #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-09-13T17:57:54 |
@sanchiadanielle @GlenysHanson Hi. Don't forget to use the hashtag so we can see your tweets, please #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T17:58:20 |
#eltchat - do have a look at a previous chat summary - done a while ago https://t.co/V8fDxi9nAZ |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T17:58:22 |
@SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Oops! :D #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T17:59:14 |
A reminder to all - round about this day of September!!! #ELTchat https://t.co/phCeDlC2Up |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:02:19 |
@sanchiadanielle @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Hello and welcome to #Eltchat - anyone else joining us tonight to talk about literacy? |
| SueAnnan |
2017-09-13T18:03:06 |
Hi Marisa Mou #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:03:13 |
@Marisa_C @sanchiadanielle @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Hello. I'm here. #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T18:04:02 |
nice to see you here again, Sanchia. #ELTchat https://t.co/pGXjL7UK04 |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:04:34 |
@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Ugh, sorry. Hi Kate! #ELTchat :D |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:04:56 |
@Marisa_C @sanchiadanielle @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Hi! #eltchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:05:11 |
@GlenysHanson Nice to have such a warm welcome back :) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:05:18 |
Are you interested in talking about young(er) learners or adults as well? #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:06:12 |
@Marisa_C Both ideally #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:06:19 |
@sanchiadanielle @GlenysHanson Nice post Sanchia - I loved the bit abt how yr mum having more followers upset you!!! :-D #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-09-13T18:06:22 |
literacy affects everyone ##ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:07:43 |
We haven't had low literacy adults here for quite a while, but the new wave of immigrants from war zones will sure bring them back #Eltchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:07:54 |
@Marisa_C @GlenysHanson Hahahaha thanks Marisa! Sad, but true #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:08:32 |
We first experienced the need to some work with adults with low literacy in own language too #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:08:57 |
@Marisa_C Do you mean literacy in the L1 as well, or just in English? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-09-13T18:09:16 |
Yes I have the same with my Madeiran sts. many didn't go to school #ELTchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:09:22 |
@Marisa_C It's just YLs in my context but happy to sit in on the discussion about adults too :) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:10:50 |
@KateLloyd05 Well, the term 'literacy' is used widely for many diff things, L1, L2, digital, visual, etc. What shal… https://t.co/AB4APV4MM4 |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:11:40 |
@sanchiadanielle Whatever we mention abt adult is often sourced from YL work - very little done FOR adults that is new #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:11:57 |
@Marisa_C Probably a good idea to define the term we are talking about today #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:12:48 |
Hello all - terrible connection but made it #ELTchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:13:40 |
@angelos_bollas Hi Angelos! Glad you made it #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:13:44 |
@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Quite ironic tho that most materials are for YLs and most training courses for adults #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:13:55 |
So shall we begin with YLs and say how some of the processes accelerated with adults? #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T18:14:38 |
@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 In French they use two different words: illettré and analphabète. #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:14:56 |
@angelos_bollas Hello #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-09-13T18:15:47 |
Going to love you and leave you. Will do the transcript on my return. Mwah. Have a great #ELTChat everyone |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:16:18 |
@GlenysHanson @KateLloyd05 the second word being Greek (as we learn in my big fat Greek wedding all words come from Greek :-D ) #ELTchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:18:03 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Do they have two different meanings Glenys? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:18:26 |
I just checked our old summary and a lot of the resources links have died I'm afraid #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:21:15 |
@Marisa_C That's a pity.. but a good assignment for us ;) to find new ones :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:21:37 |
Am looking for some new ones #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:23:51 |
I think much hs to do with the teacher's attitude. Some Ts are unaware of literacy issues and treat SS as if they don't care #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:24:05 |
There are two useful sites - one for ESOL https://t.co/hXKpvYbL5e #ELtchat and the skillwise site https://t.co/orgTbT1myj |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:25:13 |
With children we would need lots of recognition and using flashcards and shapes - and lots of motor skill practise, #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:26:07 |
even before they begin to write , they have done lots of oral work and then begin to do tracing, coloring in, drawing #eltchat do u do this? |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:26:17 |
@angelos_bollas Also more ways to hide illiteracy in the modern day. Literacy issues may not be so obv or Ts may no… https://t.co/QMbOPokZ0R |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T18:26:23 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Yes. V glad not to have together: speakers of the lang who went to school b… https://t.co/8dSqC4EFNW |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:27:10 |
I think it IS a confusing time, eg. sm ppl say why do handwriting when we have mobile phones now #eltchat What do u think? |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:27:10 |
@Marisa_C Yes. Lots of letter and then word tracing, and always the spoken form (recognised and produced) before written #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:27:17 |
@Marisa_C Yes we have a level just for this in our school. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:28:16 |
For YL;s it makes perfect sense but for AL's perhaps an extra hr or 2 in the week - mixed ability grps the reason… https://t.co/K6NqVYiCLi |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:28:24 |
@Marisa_C I haven't taught so YLs lately but I have observed classes where they don't do that. Ts not confident wit… https://t.co/ELfOdDFuB3 |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:29:00 |
@angelos_bollas What do u mean - they start kids with reading and writing straight away? #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:29:21 |
@Marisa_C Our ALs only come to school for 3-4 hours per week as it is....#eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:30:04 |
@Marisa_C This summer I had a 20-year old student who told me "I have never used pen and paper and don't know how to do that" #eltchat |
| SunflowerDuck |
2017-09-13T18:30:13 |
#ELTChat #eshopsuk #Poppins100 Fabric Pouch Lined w/ Waterproof FoodSafe PUL #Eco #Reuse #zerodechet https://t.co/sqnt1exzOm |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:30:28 |
@Marisa_C Doesn't mean they'll never have to write by hand tho #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:30:42 |
@KateLloyd05 Our own Ts used to ask them to come in 30 mins earlier for motor skills practice #eltchat - one or two… https://t.co/WtGj8ABTNv |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:31:06 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Wow. Where was that? #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:31:06 |
@Marisa_C Unfortunately! Focusing on spelling and memorisation of form :-( #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:31:41 |
@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C University in the UK. This was an MA student from Japan #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-09-13T18:31:56 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I had an older Somalia student who'd not learned how to use a pen/pencil before. #ELTchat… https://t.co/yYwJipqiPd |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:32:21 |
@angelos_bollas @KateLloyd05 inevitably it will happen - not sure how far into the future #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:32:37 |
@Marisa_C Interesting idea but our teachers are already teaching then! #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:32:45 |
@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 I think I like that #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T18:33:12 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C Yes, very important for Ss to understand spoken language before they R&R. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:33:12 |
@tesolmatthew @angelos_bollas Hey welcome Mr Noble - middle of the night for you!! #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-09-13T18:33:21 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C *Somali #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:34:38 |
@KateLloyd05 I know! V difficult to handle!!! You could rope in some more advanced Ss - peer teaching research sugg… https://t.co/2hPQEHgxA6 |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:34:41 |
@Marisa_C @tesolmatthew @angelos_bollas Are you already in Thailand Matthew? #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-09-13T18:35:00 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas Nope 11:30am! *am* tired though, was shouting along most of the lyrics at the rare (4me,… https://t.co/S36jQpoBHR |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:35:36 |
@Marisa_C I think this all works better in intensive programmes that an after uni/work class #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-09-13T18:38:30 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas @KateLloyd05 so true, and it's okay. don't fight it #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:38:42 |
@KateLloyd05 It is an admin decision for sure but can be done if planned carefully #ELTchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:40:37 |
@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 I wonder if a self-study course for literacy has ever been created? An audio-guided online thing perhaps? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:40:38 |
These pages for kids have useful activities #eltchat chttp://learnenglishkids.britishcouncil.org/en/read-write |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:41:42 |
@sanchiadanielle @KateLloyd05 Not sure if done for English but have seen and used one for Modern Greek for adults #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-09-13T18:42:32 |
I'm off for a doctor's appt. was lovely to just drop-in! see y'all next time for sure :) #ELTchat https://t.co/0GPBIBhMv5 |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:43:31 |
@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Did they like/use it? Did it work? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T18:44:44 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Wow! It'd be a huge amount of work to create one... but very interesting. I… https://t.co/gUddGsGbd5 |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:44:45 |
RT @Marisa_C: These pages for kids have useful activities #eltchat chttp://learnenglishkids.britishcouncil.org/en/read-write |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:44:59 |
@sanchiadanielle @KateLloyd05 Not sure - but not extensive - limited to a short unit on the greek alphabet #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-09-13T18:45:58 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 How would they be able to access it? #eltchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:46:20 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 I bet I know a few people who'd be interested in a project like this. Might ha… https://t.co/ZSAPiD4V9A |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:47:03 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 In my head it's a Moodle or MOOC-type platform. Assuming access to the internet, of course #ELTchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:48:11 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Did you mean access in terms of understand/use or in terms of tech/equipment? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:48:22 |
I still have some of the very old Oxford Workbooks?activity books for YL;s they were marvellous!!! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:49:20 |
there's loads of fun ideas for worksheets on the web e.g. here https://t.co/6N6TV70h9h #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:50:33 |
Have a look at this introductory chapter here - free online https://t.co/QlNx7XXAie #ELtchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T18:52:14 |
@Marisa_C @sanchiadanielle @KateLloyd05 Working on my own, I found it quite easy to learn to read and write the Ara… https://t.co/0mLtHNFj0B |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:52:30 |
@Marisa_C @GlenysHanson @KateLloyd05 Wonder if it would be possible to create one that does not assume L1 literacy.… https://t.co/BkFijiaoKK |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:53:17 |
@sanchiadanielle @GlenysHanson @KateLloyd05 That is why the inspiration comes from YL materials not for native spea… https://t.co/Zribv3qprs |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T18:53:57 |
@Marisa_C Yep, one of our YL teachers was printing off many similar worksheets for F today #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:55:00 |
@KateLloyd05 and here https://t.co/xA4vBZwtcY #eltchat (this for L1 pupils) but ideas easy to transfer #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:56:07 |
I think a school needs to create a bank of materials - a "literacy box' if you like with worksheets FCs games etc - can be online #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:56:46 |
May be store it all in a free wiki or sth #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T18:57:40 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Online materials exist but assume the guidance of a teacher. But there is M… https://t.co/1BbQH17M17 |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:58:12 |
@Marisa_C Yes! Last year we started archiving our literacy materials on the school server. Has been a blessing and… https://t.co/At65tVTWql |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T18:58:41 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Haven't heard about that! I'll check it out after the chat. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T18:58:43 |
A quick search reveals hundreds of such sites by Ts, schools or districs - an example to emulate https://t.co/gLLU0R4QNc #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:00:17 |
@GlenysHanson @sanchiadanielle @KateLloyd05 So how do u suggest this would work for a language school - a self-defe… https://t.co/bIgplUhynX |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T19:00:55 |
@sanchiadanielle @GlenysHanson @Marisa_C There was a talk at IATEFL a few years ago and many follow up blog posts #ELTchat |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T19:02:03 |
@Marisa_C @GlenysHanson @KateLloyd05 Assume it would be picked up by a tech company and marketed to several schools… https://t.co/CJROdv4C1t |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:02:35 |
@KateLloyd05 @sanchiadanielle @GlenysHanson I remember but Mitra was talking abt an overall image of future educati… https://t.co/vXszwxU6uZ |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T19:02:47 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C @GlenysHanson Something like Memrise with its memes to remember letters? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T19:03:19 |
@Marisa_C @sanchiadanielle @KateLloyd05 LOL! Here's https://t.co/Bru8HtgUby But my own belief is that most students… https://t.co/pW1yj6Udb1 |
| SLBCoop |
2017-09-13T19:03:20 |
Hey #ELTchat good topic tonight! This is really @neil_mcm repping for SLB. 8 years' exp. working with adult ESOL literacies in Scotland |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:05:17 |
Agree - i think he is right in the prediction of a distant future - don't know why Ts got so rattled - #ELTchat https://t.co/wzsosdpV7B |
| sanchiadanielle |
2017-09-13T19:05:44 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 Thanks for the link! I'll take a look later. Off for dinner now guys, enjoy th… https://t.co/MCRPPetKlN |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:06:18 |
@GlenysHanson @sanchiadanielle @KateLloyd05 also if that were the case (no Ts needed) no one would be talking to @skrashen :-) #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T19:06:42 |
@sanchiadanielle @GlenysHanson @Marisa_C Enjoy your dinner #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:07:08 |
I think I shall retire into my antechamber as well - got to get my YL course off the ground soon #ELTchat |
| SLBCoop |
2017-09-13T19:07:55 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C If you follow a social practices model of literacies then a good bank is even more indis… https://t.co/RIqnjvBN1H |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:08:24 |
#ELtchat on #slowburn mode is now on and @tesolmatthew will be around for little literacy nudges here and there :-D |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T19:08:27 |
@Marisa_C Is this the Delta module 3 based one? #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2017-09-13T19:10:07 |
@Marisa_C Interesting. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:14:05 |
Happy 7th Birthday #ELTchat!!! It's been 7 great years meeting and learning with hundreds of awesome educators… https://t.co/frjmZeJsp5 |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-13T19:16:21 |
Here is anotheρ interesting link for adult literacy #eltchat https://t.co/rkqztygaku |
| digteap |
2017-09-13T19:48:33 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Have you seen this? https://t.co/euaUv6Mxis #eltchat |
| SLBCoop |
2017-09-13T20:00:37 |
@sanchiadanielle @Marisa_C Also bus tickets, menus, receipts, brochures, authentic forms etc. are really valuable resources #ELTchat |
| TESOLacademic |
2017-09-13T20:10:58 |
RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat is back - here is the playlist for September 2017 https://t.co/tMAIrWz9J2 via @ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-09-13T20:20:33 |
On the rare occasions I taught reading, I used this approach: https://t.co/6TvoE2Aq0f Ss found it great fun despite my hesitations #ELTchat |
| 11thhourspecial |
2017-09-13T21:00:19 |
@angelos_bollas @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C She must have gone to international school. Japan is still resolutely chalk,… https://t.co/FqaxNLrNj3 |
| JustineTeslplus |
2017-09-13T21:47:53 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/IpDXILJqAa |
| Marisa_C |
2017-09-14T06:45:57 |
Indeed I have - it was announced to us recently in the Sheffield meeting #ELTchat https://t.co/UaLpvKqFXY |
| MicaelaCarey |
2017-09-14T07:07:36 |
RT @ELTchat: #ELTchat is back – here is the playlist for September 2017 https://t.co/vnIAxdzkKs https://t.co/86FN6c6cO1 |
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