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| teflguild |
2017-07-05T14:40:47 |
RT @tesolmatthew: ️Results are in for #ELTchat going live in 3.5 hours: the topic is "Our Working conditions in ELT: What is being done, w… |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T14:43:10 |
@tesolmatthew #eltchat here's a fresh one for anyone who likes a bit of pre-reading: https://t.co/3sFuIbugs6 |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T14:44:39 |
This could be THE #ELTchat of 2017 - make sure you join in - don't forget #slowburn for 24hrs after if you're in a… https://t.co/lkV22lEBcZ |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T16:05:21 |
Join us in this last #eltchat before our summer break! https://t.co/UfJBrr6XKv |
| teacherphili |
2017-07-05T17:13:34 |
The hot topic of working conditions in #ELT is under discussion in tonight's #ELTchat @Tawsig ? 7 BST |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T17:20:59 |
@Liam_ELT Nice. Anyone else with some topical background/pre-/post- recommended reading - post it up y'all #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T17:22:18 |
@GeoffreyJordan @josipa74 https://t.co/taN8VlZSbC may help #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T17:56:41 |
@tesolmatthew @Liam_ELT Hi #ELTchat -ers! some stats from France here https://t.co/ARNHgj9EzK dates back to 2014 al… https://t.co/UbTzpkjryl |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T17:59:27 |
From this old post a quote https://t.co/gf457iEA4L ."...untrained and unambitious staff is and will remain cheap labour." #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:03:12 |
@tesolmatthew Have you already started? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:04:57 |
@Marisa_C Don't actually have much to say on this topic. Guess I'm lucky #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:05:16 |
@ayatawel @tesolmatthew just getting warmed up now #eltchat - any other friends present? |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-07-05T18:05:17 |
Hi everybody! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:05:34 |
@GlenysHanson Hey Glenys! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:05:36 |
Hi Glenys #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:06:45 |
Last week and this week (tomorrow in fact) am giving talks to a grp of school owners in Athens) #eltchat #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:07:11 |
@Marisa_C on what topic? #ELTchat |
| trinquisitor_th |
2017-07-05T18:07:24 |
@GlenysHanson Hi Glenys. I just submitted my proposal today. #eltchat https://t.co/judMzxAqy1 |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:07:33 |
the legal hourly rate for ELT Ts now is 3,5 euros - they think 8 or 9 per hour if you are trained, is very good #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:08:15 |
Ireland is checking in to this particular #ELTchat. Very happy to see this being discussed. Provision of a real income is fundamental to CPD |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:08:18 |
@Marisa_C That's shocking, but I suppose it depends on the going rate for all jobs in the region #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:08:56 |
@ELTAdvocacy Hear hear - locally u have to work abt 50 hrs a week to put food on the table #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:09:27 |
@SueAnnan cost of living is as high as other EU countries #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:10:29 |
@SueAnnan Doesn't matter what topic - they will still exploit teachers - the big owners - small schools 1-T schools don't count #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:11:08 |
@Marisa_C that's outrageous.. #eltchat .. the lowest I've heard of in Ireland is €12 per hour.. although for most s… https://t.co/pUmRLP0yka |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:11:08 |
@Marisa_C @ELTAdvocacy Ouch @Marisa_C ! When you say 'work', do you mean teaching time or prep/travel/admin too? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:11:46 |
@eilymurphy @ELTAdvocacy actual teaching time #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:12:29 |
@Liam_ELT Local bosses don't really promote CPD opportunities to their Ts lest they should ask for more money #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:13:16 |
#eltchat Hi @GlenysHanson @SueAnnan and @Marisa_C nice and v imp topic today |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:13:33 |
#ELTchat Conditions are exacerbated by casual 'teachers' doing a backpacker's standard of work for a backpacker's wage. How to stop that? |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:13:41 |
@Marisa_C @Liam_ELT have come across this too - easy to replace w less qualified Ts #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:13:44 |
The question is what can teachers do? #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:13:48 |
@Marisa_C @tesolmatthew Trying to get some friends to join us #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T18:14:17 |
What is the biggest barrier to improving conditions in ELT? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:14:44 |
Was talking to my Delta trainees today - same in diff countries - cheapest most untrained staff in YL classes!!! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:14:52 |
@tesolmatthew The fact that it isn't seen as a profession? #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:15:24 |
We only get paid for 'contact hours'. But to arrive at contact hours, Ts pay the costs of lesson prep etc… https://t.co/ZFWclgTpHH |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:15:25 |
@Marisa_C #eltchatShould the burden be on the teachers? Certainly, Ts should be more aware, as many don't see the exploitation. |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:15:34 |
I hear you (but do remember to add #eltchat in every tweet https://t.co/YUvQpT4To1 |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:15:41 |
@Marisa_C Organise #eltchat . Talk to one another. Talk to people in other countries. Ask their national associatio… https://t.co/FlILlCwh5x |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:16:09 |
@Marisa_C Not here. I'm teaching teens at the moment :-( But my boss is great about CPD for everyone #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:16:18 |
@tesolmatthew schools not 'selling' courses based on quality of teaching, just get the numbers in, students have cheaper options.. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:16:22 |
@teflguild do remember to add the #eltchat hashtag pls |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:16:34 |
@tesolmatthew teachers/stakeholders not feeling like they're 'in' enough to want to organise and make it better pla… https://t.co/Z2B4PFrh5y |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:16:41 |
@Marisa_C See the great work by @ELTAdvocacy #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:16:58 |
I don't think anyone else willl fight for them! #eltchat https://t.co/x21gile03C |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:17:39 |
RT @Liam_ELT: @Marisa_C Organise #eltchat . Talk to one another. Talk to people in other countries. Ask their national association to take… |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:17:57 |
Easier said than done - many Ts complacent and terrified they will lose what little they get #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:18:41 |
#eltchat Ts pay a lot of money, time and effort for PD, though it's still doubtful what they can get to after all that :( |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:18:44 |
@SueAnnan That's wonderful #eltchat you are so lucky |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:18:46 |
@SueAnnan @tesolmatthew When we presented that optic issue to our parliamentarians, they coldly reminded us 'Real t… https://t.co/ujXHk35Upy |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:18:55 |
@Liam_ELT @tesolmatthew There's a lot of teachers that are committed to the profession - we need to unite on common issues #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:19:05 |
so true #eltchat https://t.co/WZmsQOeM4M |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:19:10 |
"liking" a lot of things that I really don't like during this #eltchat they're "likes" of solidarity! |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:19:12 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/gE4Adwjhjr |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:19:46 |
@Marisa_C What teaching teens? Lol. They're actually quite sweet, but I prefer my adults #ELTchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:20:03 |
@Marisa_C absolutely.. but strength in numbers.. before there's numbers then whispering in corners and anonymity on… https://t.co/xmJH18oXkf |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:20:08 |
@Liam_ELT @tesolmatthew lots of lifers here, who might not be able to find job in another sector (lang/visa) but th… https://t.co/FY45jBXfUw |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:20:24 |
@SueAnnan I meant to have such a great boss!!! :-D #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:20:48 |
@Marisa_C Such as yourself ! #ELTchat |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:20:52 |
@tesolmatthew Employers - but it's a fallacy to say that schools will struggle if workers conditions improve… https://t.co/2nWnU37NV8 |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:21:03 |
@teflguild @tesolmatthew I absolutely agree - but if we can convince those half-in/half-out to support too, then th… https://t.co/xwv7ENBuUc |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:21:37 |
#eltchat unfortunately working conditions r still affected by being N/NN Ts, no matter the qualification, too bad |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:21:41 |
The better trained our staff are- the more students we attract. It's a no brainer #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:21:57 |
@teflguild @Marisa_C Thanks @teflguild! #ELTchat See the website by @taw_sig here: https://t.co/zvSfAVKtxy Good ideas here. |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:22:21 |
@eilymurphy @Liam_ELT @tesolmatthew Very true - you can't work anywhere legally #eltchat some ppl take this as discrimination |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:22:23 |
@Liam_ELT @tesolmatthew You win some easy fights #eltchat like CPD, improves trust btwn employees/employers |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:22:42 |
#ELTchat u have 2 wonder about the attitude of higher ups when u hear 'why should u be allowed in an IATEFL talk when I paid for a 5* hotel? |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:23:08 |
Best no-brainer today! If only some narrow-minded bosses could see that!! #eltchat https://t.co/QpdHKcF4ZV |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:23:36 |
@Marisa_C exactly #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:25:12 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat Ts need to know that they have a right to union membership. @Marisa_C do ELT people have union… https://t.co/Y9sj5L2sfJ |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:26:26 |
@ELTAdvocacy They do and have but the local bosses created a sham T's union and signed a new agreement with shameful rates #eltchat |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:26:44 |
#eltchat we can work together on collective issues, such as discrimination against NNS (which is illegal in EU) |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:27:49 |
@teflguild #eltchat and yet still happens |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:28:02 |
WE do. I love the fact that teachers just need to be experienced in my school. Not NESTS or NNESTS. #ELTchat Got a good mix at moment |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:28:32 |
#eltchat If we work together on these issues, we can collectively negotiate Ts and Cs of employment, provide each other professional advice |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:28:37 |
@RobertTaylorELT @teflguild Yeah unfortunately :( #eltchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:28:48 |
@SueAnnan I wonder though. When lang training is financed by employer as legal requirement, HR manager chooses low… https://t.co/LLxXdQbMrg |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:29:04 |
Again it's a no brainer that once you have trained and learnt to connect with colleagues around the world you gain power #eltchat |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:29:10 |
RT @SueAnnan: WE do. I love the fact that teachers just need to be experienced in my school. Not NESTS or NNESTS. #ELTchat Got a good mix a… |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:29:23 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat would like to agree but poor teaching can be spun and sold to naive ss. E.g, no of times I've he… https://t.co/yakqcYM52L |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:29:36 |
#eltchat which many other professions do. There are a lot of us |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:29:54 |
@ayatawel #ELTchat Our union @UNITE_Union_IRE helped members make a 10pt charter. Rights ofNNs Ts are on there b/c… https://t.co/oRKaPSUPsn |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:29:57 |
@eilymurphy Not in Jersey. We have no competition, so price is price! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:30:05 |
@eilymurphy @SueAnnan Such a great point! Or, even worse, the training is tailored to fit the employer's preferences #eltchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:30:47 |
@SueAnnan I'd like to see value of qual Ts promoted more #eltchat |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T18:30:59 |
@RobertTaylorELT #eltchat it's illegal to discriminate against EU nurses on linguistic grounds - precedence |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:31:12 |
I think that's what trade unions are for.. Ts are already over-worked, this way they're employment law experts and… https://t.co/VtBI6WhEmo |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:31:31 |
@ELTAdvocacy @UNITE_Union_IRE And how far is it really working? #eltchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:32:10 |
@SueAnnan I was thinking of online options too #eltchat market is changing fast |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:32:16 |
@laxmiojha99 Informed teachers are empowered teachers - but many are kept in the dark - deliberately - cheap labour #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:32:49 |
@eilymurphy @SueAnnan It's almost as if you max out your value as a T no matter how much you develop -seems only wa… https://t.co/ek6aLDy74a |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:33:07 |
@eilymurphy Yes. That's a more difficult situation as some people charge next to nothing #ELTchat |
| ayatawel |
2017-07-05T18:33:21 |
@Marisa_C @laxmiojha99 That's true #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:34:08 |
@Marisa_C Sham T rep orgs are an issue. Our @IATEFL branch refuses to address the biggest CPD issues in Irish #ELT:… https://t.co/06fwnTPQ0B |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:34:21 |
@SueAnnan but at least online teachers set own rate and have *stars* feedback from Ss to show value #eltchat #notidealoptionofcourse |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:34:48 |
@eilymurphy Mmm! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:34:49 |
@laxmiojha99 Do please remember to use the #ELTchat hashtag in every tweet otherwise only i can see your comments |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:35:02 |
#eltchat https://t.co/mKsvOB80UQ |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:35:12 |
#eltchat https://t.co/E4tEDqk3sa |
| laxmiojha99 |
2017-07-05T18:36:15 |
@Marisa_C Sure #ELTchat :) |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:37:01 |
@ELTAdvocacy @Marisa_C @iatefl (forgot tag) TAs won't do anything to solve issue of low pay and precarity because m… https://t.co/ej6QpkydQv |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:37:23 |
@ayatawel @UNITE_Union_IRE We aren't the Dept of Education (unfortunately). We can't make change. We can grow it, t… https://t.co/LH1mVftExY |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:37:26 |
TA's rely on publlishers who in turn rely on school owners - not difficult to see why no #ELTchat https://t.co/E03wrYkvqH |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:38:33 |
I mean why not :-D #eltchat https://t.co/x4poWOh8LW |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:39:42 |
@Marisa_C But TAs are - in theory - bound by national rules NOT by IATEFL or publishers. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:39:43 |
@josipa74 Publishers carry a lot of the costs of conferences and exhibitions #eltchat - owners buy the books |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:40:16 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C That makes sense #ELTchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:40:39 |
@Marisa_C But the costs of the TA are paid for by teachers - not publishers. #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:41:41 |
@Liam_ELT just meeting 'normal' accepted wrk cond in each country, wld be a big step-can be shock when compared w e… https://t.co/BUTBcTt2K6 |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:41:46 |
@Marisa_C But my TA's motto is 'teachers helping teachers', subscription-based, governed by German rules. So why no… https://t.co/pk78WHOkvB |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:42:07 |
@Marisa_C Publishers can write off costs of conferences and exhibitions, no? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:42:18 |
@josipa74 Not always - or everywhere - e.g. TESOL Greece always needed publisher money to pay for venue, salaries, good speakers #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:42:34 |
@josipa74 of course #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:43:33 |
At the moment - few TA's are financially healthy - so much free stuff online! #eltchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:43:41 |
@Marisa_C But why does the current ELT circuit have to rely on publishers and coursebooks and 'gurus' flown in. #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:44:04 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C Perhaps it's that the Events are paid for by Publishers? #ELTchat In US, @TESOL conference is s… https://t.co/3kwkH4ke1X |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:45:16 |
@Marisa_C What would happen if 'publisher money' were taken out of the equation? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:45:22 |
On the whole I think a TA is for CPD - a trade union is about your rights and the twain shall not usually meet #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:46:08 |
@josipa74 I don't think that is relevant to the discussion about how to improve the working conditions of ppl on 3,5 euros per hour #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:46:39 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C it doesn't... that's why Ts organising in new ways (like #ELTchat) and developing outside TAs i… https://t.co/MrIcBcB8ox |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:46:52 |
@Marisa_C @josipa74 What can the market afford? #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:47:17 |
Would love to see our union @UNITE_Union_IRE sponsor the next @ELTIreland conference!!! Is it a free market?… https://t.co/bgEuiaAmje |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:47:23 |
@Marisa_C can't have CPD without P - no P without Ts&Cs - they're exclusive now, but no reason that should be in future #ELTchat |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T18:47:43 |
@RobertTaylorELT #ELTchat I've been saying it for years. Change the CELTA course. Make it longer, make it more in depth. |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:47:43 |
@Marisa_C Why not? Coursebooks deskill. How can you get more money if you teach from a coursebook? Anyone can do it. #ELTchat |
| sophie_cy |
2017-07-05T18:47:57 |
@Marisa_C very true #ELTchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:48:41 |
@Marisa_C Why don't we change the entry qualification - the CELTA - that would have an immediate impact in restrict… https://t.co/lqOaDwSC0a |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:48:49 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C That's why CPD is important. Using the coursebook and expanding it needs skill #ELTchat |
| sophie_cy |
2017-07-05T18:49:37 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C lack of self-funding #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T18:49:55 |
No reason 2stop this discussion after 1hour. 1hour is only enuf time to pile on starter thoughts & ID the high yield Qs. #ELTchat #slowburn |
| sophie_cy |
2017-07-05T18:50:17 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C also often lack of appreciation of their own resources #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:51:19 |
@Liam_ELT @josipa74 @Marisa_C Right! Esp b/c our union gets our precarity in the nat'l news here. Ts join every wee… https://t.co/sIZb5AGgPl |
| sophie_cy |
2017-07-05T18:52:30 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C what do you mean Paul? #ELTchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:52:38 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Teachers have been paying for their own CPD for years - things have only got worse in terms of… https://t.co/79sfoDiFHr |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:53:12 |
@bealer81 #eltchat exactly! |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:53:15 |
RT @bealer81: @RobertTaylorELT #ELTchat I've been saying it for years. Change the CELTA course. Make it longer, make it more in depth. |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:53:41 |
@ELTAdvocacy @Liam_ELT @josipa74 @Marisa_C true here too, unions don't know what ELT is #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:53:50 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C I agree, but there is a choice. if you want to hold on to your Ts and sts, you need to cough up… https://t.co/DTPfM8lxag |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T18:53:50 |
Again, I've been saying this for years. Ideally, the DELTA should be the entry course. #ELTchat https://t.co/O9Ak11yj3B |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:54:20 |
@bealer81 @RobertTaylorELT The CELTA is as good or as bad as who teaches it - which is why Cambridge has not stoppe… https://t.co/s12O1iy14e |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:54:52 |
@RobertTaylorELT #ELTchatHow about regulation driven by consent of the working? Each country allows businesses to… https://t.co/weQNXHkaXt |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:55:12 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Seems like teachers need to cough up 4 everything, what does #ELT industry need to cough up? We… https://t.co/gkH1tCrzzy |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:55:18 |
@Marisa_C @bealer81 #eltchat disagree. How much can you cover in 4 weeks? No in-service placement? Etc |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:55:51 |
@bealer81 I don't agree with you - I train on the Delta and ppll without experience would not survive it #eltchat pls stay on topic |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:56:37 |
@eilymurphy @Liam_ELT @josipa74 @Marisa_C Ts must T. #ELTChat#NoStudentLeftBehind ; ) |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:56:40 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C Not where I work. Many Ts don't even appreciate the amount of free CPD on offer #ELTchat |
| sophie_cy |
2017-07-05T18:56:44 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C What d u have in mind?CELTA not recognised in Cyprus as entry qualification 4 teaching in recog… https://t.co/Axxph7A4UH |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T18:56:46 |
All schools should commit to reducing course book spending by half. Use the rest of the money for proper training. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:57:02 |
@RobertTaylorELT @bealer81 I'm sorry are you a CELTA trainer? or course designer? #eltchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:57:17 |
@ELTAdvocacy #eltchat little government can do if companies are private and not breaking the law |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:57:20 |
#eltchat https://t.co/K4zCe5ttWH |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:57:30 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Sure, but Jersey is also quite a special market. #ELTchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T18:57:47 |
@Marisa_C @bealer81 Are ad hominems appropriate? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T18:57:58 |
Not just that - in my locale schools make Ss buy 3 or 4 books "to keep the teacher busy" (who is untrained cheap la… https://t.co/cZV67KHmUj |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T18:58:03 |
@SueAnnan @josipa74 @Marisa_C should be getting paid for it if they have to spend time doing it.. it's not "free" i… https://t.co/RjvhIZ6NDt |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:58:12 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C Yes. But my boss is enlightened. That doesn't stop people grumbling about things though #ELTchat |
| sophie_cy |
2017-07-05T18:58:14 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C what kind of qualification do u want to see? #ELTchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:58:30 |
@sophie_cy @Marisa_C Yes there are differences in entry qualifications and sectors, granted. But low pay seems fairly widespread. #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T18:59:12 |
so also need to fous on living wage + contract rights approach to improve wrk cond #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T18:59:25 |
@SueAnnan @josipa74 @Marisa_C There's no P (profession) if you can't retire. In Dublin, we STILL haven't been able… https://t.co/1C1P9E4lFw |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T18:59:33 |
@eilymurphy All online courses and two bit TEFL certificate awards should be banned. It would eliminate back packer element. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T18:59:34 |
@Liam_ELT @josipa74 @Marisa_C I disagree. Its great that it is offered. Why should they have to be paid? #ELTchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T18:59:49 |
@Liam_ELT @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Agreed @Liam_ELT. Working time should be paid time no matter what that work IS. #eltchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:00:30 |
@SueAnnan @Liam_ELT @Marisa_C So Sue, you think teachers shouldn't be paid for attending CPD? #ELTchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:00:48 |
@SueAnnan @josipa74 @Marisa_C they're working?? #ELTchat they're not doing it for the good of their health.. it's t… https://t.co/3XfGDVN5YM |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T19:01:22 |
@bealer81 totally agree, OK in the UK or given country maybe, but worldwide? how?#eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:01:29 |
@josipa74 @Liam_ELT @Marisa_C Actually Yes. There is provision in the timetable for it. They should be glad that t… https://t.co/otKeVDA3VI |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:02:17 |
CPD in-school is often a box-ticking exercise and low quality in my experience, and there's often not much 'choice' about it. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:02:32 |
I agree that CPD organised by the school should be paid time - trouble is Ts not motivated often by this top down approach #eltchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T19:02:44 |
@sophie_cy @josipa74 @Marisa_C #eltchat it's a difficult one, as some Ts develop after qualifying |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:02:56 |
@SueAnnan @Liam_ELT @Marisa_C Does the boss ASK the teachers whether they think they need CPD? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:03:41 |
@josipa74 @Liam_ELT @Marisa_C Sometimes. But we have monthly sessions which are chosen by the Ts #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:04:24 |
@Shaunwilden and myself have an article in the latest Modern English Teacher on Autonomous CPD - like #eltchat par example?? :-D |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:04:27 |
@Marisa_C I think if payment was the norm, expected, and there were real tangible benefits to conditions from devel… https://t.co/uLIFUiY7dl |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:05:33 |
@bealer81 @eilymurphy There are good online Masters courses. Would you exclude these? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:06:14 |
@patrickelt @bealer81 @eilymurphy Certainly not - but not accepted in some countries unfortunately #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:06:27 |
Well, peeps. We have come to the end of #ELTChat for tonight. Keep chatting in the slowburn if you wish.Will pick up the transcript tomorrow |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:06:35 |
@sophie_cy @josipa74 @Marisa_C I suspect its currency is not so great in many countries #eltchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:06:46 |
I just don't see how a multi-billion dollar industry can expect low-paid teachers to pay their own training costs. #eltchat |
| sophie_cy |
2017-07-05T19:06:54 |
@RobertTaylorELT @josipa74 @Marisa_C true bt shld still get possible training before starting work #ELTchat CPD wil… https://t.co/pMjVgux5yh |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:07:33 |
As @bealer81 wrote - why can't the Dip become the entry qualification? #ELTchat |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:08:13 |
@Marisa_C @bealer81 @eilymurphy How would people necessarily know? Do Masters certificates say they are online? M… https://t.co/7vazg58Qox |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:08:36 |
@SueAnnan @Liam_ELT @josipa74 @Marisa_C B/C it's #ELT work not #ELT hobby.The time I put in is a + 4 my Ls and boss… https://t.co/woc1G0A12Z |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:08:40 |
The problem is that the industry and #ELT establishment have very little incentive to change the status quo. #ELTchat |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:09:03 |
@Marisa_C @bealer81 @eilymurphy It doesn't say so on the certificate. Many of my contemporaries did a module or tw… https://t.co/MrhuNfnqgD |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T19:09:57 |
@sophie_cy @josipa74 @Marisa_C #eltchat hence the need to have a more in-depth, rigorous ITT course, where Ts can train and develop |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:09:58 |
@patrickelt @Marisa_C @bealer81 @eilymurphy Do you need to do practical classroom work for your certificate? #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T19:10:31 |
@josipa74 or buy a car+insurance to get to classes,buy a laptop, phone bill, ... #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:10:33 |
@patrickelt @bealer81 @eilymurphy Sure - this is the result of all the Mickey Mouse online TEFL qualifications - #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:10:42 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @bealer81 @eilymurphy No, not for a Masters. People are already trained teachers. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:11:12 |
@patrickelt @Marisa_C @bealer81 @eilymurphy That's where the Delta and DipTESOL win then #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:11:47 |
@josipa74 #UnionUp #ELTchat https://t.co/qjcnlEiA9U |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:12:26 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C @bealer81 @eilymurphy In some contexts but in others, a PGCE followed by a Masters may have more currency. #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:12:59 |
RT @josipa74: The problem is that the industry and #ELT establishment have very little incentive to change the status quo. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:13:35 |
To become the entry qualification, the Delta would need to change drastically - #eltchat The current positions open to Deltas not 4novices |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:13:45 |
@josipa74 It is a big problem, but the more we talk about how wrong that status quo is, the better chance we have o… https://t.co/vvlq5BNn7x |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:13:59 |
@patrickelt @SueAnnan @bealer81 @eilymurphy agree #eltchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:14:51 |
@Liam_ELT So what can teachers DO to change things? #ELTchat |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T19:15:01 |
@eilymurphy Regulation, like we should do with the banks. All schools adhere to yearly checks. An internationalnal governing body #ELTchat |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:15:03 |
@Marisa_C PGCEs are open to inexperienced graduates #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:15:17 |
@Liam_ELT @josipa74 I think this is it - what we do here is get fired up then get a few more ppl fired up - inspire… https://t.co/2sZuseLe3o |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:15:28 |
Unfortunately, If Ts rock the boat, the may find they don't have a job. What can we do about that? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:16:24 |
@bealer81 @eilymurphy They do 2-yearly ones if you belong to BC. And they are robust! #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T19:16:28 |
@bealer81 1/2 v interested in qual accreditation for schools #eltchat has helped with CPD here |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:16:38 |
@Marisa_C @Liam_ELT Yes Marisa, but what would that 'positive move' be? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:16:58 |
@SueAnnan keep trying - publish locally - not only in English #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:17:07 |
@bealer81 @eilymurphy Even a national one- So long as elected (not appointed) working teachers are at the table at… https://t.co/3OF2FDjuAo |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T19:17:10 |
@bealer81 2/2 but have also seen box-ticking, any news about MEI in Ireland? #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:17:20 |
@josipa74 Join a union. Convince your colleagues to join a union. Talk about unions at meetings of your local teach… https://t.co/6aLQaIhKhm |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T19:17:31 |
@patrickelt @eilymurphy I didn't mean online courses in general. I meant the Mickey mouse ones which don't require… https://t.co/jnA0OcfP2k |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T19:17:38 |
@patrickelt @Marisa_C Yes! And they have in-service placements with formal observations in multiple schools to aid development #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:18:11 |
@bealer81 @patrickelt @eilymurphy WE don't even offer interviews to Ts with those certs #ELTChat They are a rip-off |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T19:19:04 |
@SueAnnan @eilymurphy Effectively, all schools should aim to be doing just that. #ELTchat |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:19:19 |
@Liam_ELT @josipa74 Yes and also empower teachers to be able to move out of ELT if they are not happy. Why I feel… https://t.co/Jb9PXcBQi4 |
| SueAnnan |
2017-07-05T19:19:33 |
Right guys, I'm off. Dinner calls #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T19:19:43 |
@josipa74 @Liam_ELT Perhaps we should hav 1 MORE #ELTchat b4 summer break. could summarize this one with an eye tow… https://t.co/ccrqtFG81D |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T19:20:05 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/vLRUrpxTLQ |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:20:23 |
There is a conflict btwn interests of teachers and employers but empowered teachers are usually able to find better employers #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:20:33 |
@Liam_ELT @josipa74 High level qualification but limits options afterwards. PGCE gives opportunity for state schoo… https://t.co/0qTcsnM6tQ |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T19:20:53 |
@bealer81 Forgive my ignorance, but *is* there such thing as a truly --GLOBAL-- worker's union? #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T19:20:55 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C @Liam_ELT for Bus Eng, need to show return on invest. for tax money spent on training is nudgin… https://t.co/DV9k3gGu1I |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-07-05T19:21:27 |
@Liam_ELT Thanks to a union I got tenure & have a comfortable pension. Others can do the same. Still pay my dues. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2017-07-05T19:22:17 |
@tesolmatthew Precarity is unfortunately part of the working conditions in university sector in UK, not just ELT #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:22:47 |
@tesolmatthew @bealer81 it's like @ELTAdvocacy said: teach your local union about how this global industry works..… https://t.co/rpE5SILST4 |
| bealer81 |
2017-07-05T19:22:55 |
@tesolmatthew As far as I know, no. Doesn't mean there couldn't be in the future. #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:23:16 |
@digteap @SueAnnan @tesolmatthew Can you write about Australia for @teflguild or @taw_sig? #ELTchat… https://t.co/codnTYGUw1 |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:23:18 |
@GlenysHanson @Liam_ELT when it's time for me to be pensioned off i will need to move to the cheapest country in th… https://t.co/cNLxoDtHH9 |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:24:57 |
@Marisa_C @GlenysHanson When you find it Marisa, can you save me a space? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:25:34 |
@bealer81 @tesolmatthew A proper union NOT possible - local laws vary- but an international forum /council is indee… https://t.co/WrRpNfpt2P |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:26:19 |
@Liam_ELT @GlenysHanson I certainly will - we may indeed need to created that teacher community :-) #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:26:57 |
@digteap @SueAnnan @tesolmatthew We follow the @A_Fightback example. Active critical union participation is a neces… https://t.co/E1ezLbM2bR |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:27:22 |
What about this idea - an International Council of teachers with representatived from different countries #eltchat |
| RobertTaylorELT |
2017-07-05T19:28:30 |
@tesolmatthew #eltchat people taking advantage of the plethora of Ts who don't see there's a problem |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:29:06 |
Oops, methinks I got carried away almost 10.30 here and marking and prep to do for tomorrow #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:29:42 |
@digteap @SueAnnan @tesolmatthew @teflguild @taw_sig #ELTawesome. PM if you want email addresses but they are on th… https://t.co/fps3ZeUQ1g |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-07-05T19:29:46 |
@Liam_ELT It's important to talk to change attitudes: so many teachers (and other workers) believe nothing can change. It can! #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:31:47 |
@GlenysHanson Agree 100% - the quiet word here and there has a lot of power as an agent for change.. #ELTchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:32:04 |
RT @Marisa_C: What about this idea - an International Council of teachers with representatived from different countries #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
2017-07-05T19:33:51 |
@tesolmatthew @josipa74 I should be around next Weds.. #ELTchat and as you may have noticed, could talk about this for days.. (: |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T19:34:27 |
@tesolmatthew @Liam_ELT Great idea @tesolmatthew #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:34:53 |
@tesolmatthew @bealer81 There's @The_IWW (w/ a history, long and glorious https://t.co/Q41dOzU1NY ) See the… https://t.co/93wDCtNoPm |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:37:53 |
@Marisa_C @bealer81 @tesolmatthew #ELTchat Abs. right AFAIK. But we (each) can find nat'l unions that want support… https://t.co/8vm7fq8Q4o |
| GlenysHanson |
2017-07-05T19:38:03 |
@tesolmatthew Oups! I meant 12th of July. #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T19:40:35 |
@Marisa_C Bring up the idea in @taw_sig on G+. #ELTchat I think you will find a good reception @Marisa_C |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-05T19:47:17 |
@ELTAdvocacy @taw_sig You mean the council idea? It would need a lot of thinking through though you know #eltchat |
| Courtney_E_King |
2017-07-05T19:57:04 |
@tesolmatthew Big barrier = upper admins not acknowledging our work as equal to other teaching. Constantly defendin… https://t.co/eOVmqR5IJR |
| muranava |
2017-07-05T20:05:14 |
CURMUDGUCATION: What Bad Bosses Say: https://t.co/q8ZHisy9Hn #eltchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T20:08:00 |
@teflguild @tesolmatthew YES. #ELTchat |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T20:24:46 |
@RobertTaylorELT #eltchat In IRE the Dept. of Ed. is setting up the IEM to regulate who can be an owner and how ELT… https://t.co/jVKO0kfCRQ |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T20:29:19 |
points here from @RobertASzabo don't make me happy but need to be part of this #eltchat https://t.co/aIsfrCJ8Ap |
| eilymurphy |
2017-07-05T20:30:25 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/rsF72EDquq |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T20:35:12 |
@RobertTaylorELT https://t.co/PssjVZQJbKForgot to throw in the #ELTchat. https://t.co/qAW8OcnKYY |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T20:37:15 |
Just scrolled through today's live #ELTchat over a split pea soup lunch and sketched this out: https://t.co/MN1qWbQBlX |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T20:41:57 |
Great to see (and participate in) today's #ELTchat.#EndPrecarity in #ELT #UnionUp #TalkTsandCs #TEFL #TESOL #EAP… https://t.co/gy2PkUlyFW |
| lukeealexander |
2017-07-05T20:42:51 |
@ELTAdvocacy @Marisa_C I work somewhere with strong union membership and activism. Makes a big diff but still issue… https://t.co/7O0rU3APrH |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-05T20:43:10 |
@tesolmatthew It's a system problem, but the good thing about systems is that a small change in the right place can… https://t.co/dJ6ECwa3On |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-05T20:44:26 |
@lukeealexander @Marisa_C #ELTchat Write about it! PM if you want some place to publish. |
| muranava |
2017-07-05T20:52:16 |
@SueAnnan yes Ts more vulnerable individually, work to organise collectively; not easy as fear of no work sig emplo… https://t.co/FGFeltvUxq |
| teflguild |
2017-07-05T21:11:00 |
@ELTAdvocacy My battery went dead halfway through, but good to participate in a small way #eltchat |
| milka_stupar |
2017-07-05T21:30:57 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/07LP0uBMy4 |
| ThisIsMattStott |
2017-07-05T21:41:18 |
Lack of unionisation/deunionisation, precarity. The same barrier to improving wages and conditions in many industri… https://t.co/d4OGp7OAUn |
| AlexanderLDiaz |
2017-07-05T21:49:25 |
Asked my students to create some crafts made of recycled materials and explain them to the class step-by-step. Excited! #eltchat #tefl |
| ThisIsMattStott |
2017-07-05T21:55:15 |
Experienced Ts (quality notwithstanding) not being recontracted or given work due to being "too expensive." #ELTchat https://t.co/k4jqR3yq3h |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-05T22:31:31 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C How to locally enforce entry qualifications? Connect them to immig policies? Owners/managers cl… https://t.co/QzwuyWJGhe |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-05T22:47:04 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C I was thinking esl situation. Different institutional incentives for elt in efl situation. But… https://t.co/miTe4D79jK |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-05T23:01:36 |
Connected to LAST week's #ELTchat @teacherphili https://t.co/7yYqWrXFHq |
| JenWilliamsEdu |
2017-07-05T23:02:38 |
@tesolmatthew @teacherphili Good stuff. Is there a @participate transcript for that chat? I'd love to review the id… https://t.co/M5fC2e35b5 |
| CheridyAduviri |
2017-07-05T23:40:40 |
#ELTchat #ELL #education https://t.co/QnT5hAsVYR |
| ThisIsMattStott |
2017-07-05T23:56:26 |
Would this apply to #AusELT industry? #ELTchat https://t.co/HrjSEVRpvi |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-05T23:58:30 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/DJamGzQnwJ |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-05T23:59:27 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C I would rather an entirely voluntary body, though, with rotating roles. #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T00:14:55 |
@Marisa_C @ELTAdvocacy @taw_sig I like the idea, too. I would worry that something so good might be slowly worn dow… https://t.co/afR0Wj5Oer |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T00:35:30 |
@Marisa_C @josipa74 The conference malarkey can be done at low cost. @excitELT is proof. And no stands selling stuff. #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-06T00:36:56 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/owaAv8zG96 |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T00:37:38 |
@sophie_cy @josipa74 @Marisa_C TEFL 'schools' generally won't fund; mainstream public education usually can't fund it easily. #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T00:41:45 |
@josipa74 @Marisa_C TAs often got seed money from IATEFL. Don't know if that makes them beholden to IATEFL rules. #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T01:01:46 |
@ELTAdvocacy @Marisa_C @taw_sig This is complex. Plenty of room to turn into a People's Front of Judea situation. #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T01:02:29 |
@seburnt @Marisa_C @josipa74 @excitELT Neutral filler or discourse prosody? #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T01:10:22 |
@seburnt @josipa74 @tesolmatthew Local TAs don't have much power but i'national TAs do. Univ presses publish great… https://t.co/PyZFjafbta |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T01:11:21 |
@seburnt @josipa74 @tesolmatthew Which orgs have their fingers in every pie? #ELTchat |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T02:22:55 |
@tesolmatthew Big issue is little to no local enforcement of entry barriers for T for adults. Thus, field seen as g… https://t.co/kVqrAEgkUz |
| MichaelChesnut2 |
2017-07-06T03:27:49 |
RT @tesolmatthew: What is the biggest barrier to improving conditions in ELT? #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-06T03:30:27 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/FMYFZcRb1U |
| LeoWill11 |
2017-07-06T04:44:45 |
@tesolmatthew Too little recognition for teachers. What's the reward for outstanding performance compared to medioc… https://t.co/bvdJIclRHQ |
| gaelemorag |
2017-07-06T06:07:05 |
RT @tesolmatthew: #ELTchat https://t.co/FMYFZcRb1U |
| ITLegge |
2017-07-06T06:29:30 |
#ELTworkingconditions by #ELTchat c/o @tesolmatthew https://t.co/lZZANNKwtX |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T07:51:18 |
@robshpprd @josipa74 @RobertASzabo @bealer81 This is cos ppl are irrational. Student/customers likely to be won ove… https://t.co/EE5qzdFfNN |
| BobK99 |
2017-07-06T08:35:28 |
Inspired by this - a bit of slowburn #eltchat: classrm conditions so bad/hostile/dispiriting I soon took to 1:1 tea… https://t.co/nqNCK6vsY7 |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T11:15:48 |
A couple incremental things I've noticed that seem helpful in making better working conditions for ELT. #eltchat 1/ |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T11:17:03 |
TESLCanada has certification for teachers of adults that some workplaces actually seem to require. https://t.co/3cEflxVlLm #eltchat 2/ |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T11:19:03 |
Have seen job postings listing TESLCanada cert as a req (encouraging!) but am curious to hear from Canadian ELT professionals .. #eltchat 3/ |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T11:19:51 |
...about how these certifications are viewed by ELTs/schools in Canada. #eltchat 4/ |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T11:21:29 |
In USA, legislation making accreditation required for IEPs to accept intl students on visa went into law a few years ago. #eltchat 5/ |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T11:23:40 |
Accreditation can be good (not perfect) bc it can force minimum qualifications for Ts in those programs. https://t.co/cCf7PFs00B#eltchat 6/ |
| ELTdanbuller |
2017-07-06T11:28:37 |
These things contribute to a long-term vision for school, student& T. Need to get out of short-term mindset #eltchat fin/ |
| ritchartwinson |
2017-07-06T12:16:48 |
@tesolmatthew Public perception, schools can hire backpackers and pay low wages and the public will go to the schoo… https://t.co/Takd2PqCgN |
| getgreatenglish |
2017-07-06T12:57:12 |
@robshpprd @tesolmatthew Supposed to. #ELTchat |
| aileentbn |
2017-07-06T13:32:40 |
#eltchat What teaching English in Ireland is really like.It's not good. https://t.co/xmXFZGemIV |
| Steven_Sutantro |
2017-07-06T14:39:35 |
RT @mr5scott: The LAUNCH Cycle: A Design Thinking Framework for K-12 Students https://t.co/8wFKflYyNE via @spencerideas #ELTchat @asiaEDcha… |
| ConzieSays |
2017-07-06T15:15:35 |
RT @tesolmatthew: Just scrolled through today's live #ELTchat over a split pea soup lunch and sketched this out: https://t.co/MN1qWbQBlX |
| ELTAdvocacy |
2017-07-06T15:16:01 |
@ThisIsMattStott Heard this is true in Australia.#ELTchat |
| josipa74 |
2017-07-06T15:26:52 |
@seburnt @getgreatenglish @tesolmatthew Where do people think power - in #ELT - actually lies? If you can't answer… https://t.co/iPGJQbr1xd |
| Marisa_C |
2017-07-06T21:13:24 |
@getgreatenglish @ELTAdvocacy @taw_sig Some causes already being exploited - some ppl building careers out of them… https://t.co/fDtqC4W8Z9 |
| ShellTerrell |
2017-07-06T23:52:34 |
ELLs need opportunities to develop language in their native tongue https://t.co/ZN5g3wgahj by @MrStephenWolfe #edchat #ellchat #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-07-07T00:26:44 |
#ELTchat great point. this kind of basic perceptual undergirding I think sets stage for the rest & seems2 hav lots… https://t.co/iAA6bn5oYl |
| muranava |
2017-07-07T14:26:16 |
@seburnt @jdslagoski @getgreatenglish @ElleninEdmonton @josipa74 @tesolmatthew no pipe dream a student told me ther… https://t.co/GzIFMh9grf |
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