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Teacher Changes and Development

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TeresaBestwick 2017-06-21T17:43:00 @Marisa_C @matthew Another great topic I'm going to miss - we have family visiting.  Is #ELTchat continuing over the summer?
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:03:37 @TeresaBestwick @Marisa_C @matthew At least until July 11th see https://t.co/SmVK9wihDX  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:03:57 @GlenysHanson @SueAnnan Te he he - no worries - our new DJ is learning so I was just being supporting of his effort… https://t.co/mm4Sqp66Kx
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:06:07 sypportive yikes #eltchat - need new glasses or new preferences stopping auto-correct https://t.co/1DZ2czjjRj
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:09:40 @Marisa_C  #eltchat Well, that's one thing that's changed over my career - automatic spelling checkers. A godsend to lousy spellers like me.
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:09:41 Hi is there anyone around to talk about major shifts in thinking, beliefs, approaches, behaviours in your teaching career #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:11:03 Lots of things have changed in our teaching because of tech, true, How about you - same place u were when started teaching #ELTchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:11:24 @Marisa_C I'm popping in an out, perhaps. :) #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:12:11 @seburnt Perhaps, perhaps... well, let's see if we can motivate you to stay :-) #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:12:27 @Marisa_C  #eltchat In fact I don't think much has changed except for some technical gadgets & they're not very important.
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:13:26 Do you remember self as a novice teacher? I also have some pretty frightening videos of me so... #eltchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:13:36 @Marisa_C Last 7 years yes, but otherwise, two diff countries, 5 different schools/progs, and one completely non-teaching context. #eltchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:14:12 @GlenysHanson @Marisa_C I'd say my belief systems and approaches have evolved during my career and will continue to, I'm sure. #eltchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:14:40 @Marisa_C Haha yes. I'd like to apologise to my first year's worth of classes. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:15:31 I'm pretty embarrassed myself abt my 1st year of teaching which was witHOUT training - omg  #ELTchat https://t.co/Zed3RI2GEX
David__Boughton 2017-06-21T18:17:06 Those first years were just straight from the textbook for me. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:17:19 Early on I think I was much more technique focused - less people focused - this has changed a lot #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:17:29 @Marisa_C  #eltchat I do remember. So do the poor Bs I was practicing on.Fortuantely I live the other side of France now and don't meet them
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:17:52 @GlenysHanson A ha ha ! #ELTchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:18:43 @David__Boughton Agreed. It (Interchange) was my formative textbook... now I can't remember the last time I used a… https://t.co/h5uot0ozz1
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:19:09 Amazed how some Ss learn INSPITE of their teachers #eltchat - I have a more recent video with some YL's (me teaching) #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:19:23 Sometimes the DJ gets waylaid on the way to the disco and shows up 20 minutes late right???  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:19:43 True - I haven't used a coursebook for ages #ELTchat https://t.co/FtUVfUjOZ1
David__Boughton 2017-06-21T18:20:09 @seburnt Interchange for me too! A good one to start with I think. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:20:11 @tesolmatthew right - play us some good choons #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:20:27 @seburnt @Marisa_C I was SO guilty and sad feeling for my first couple of years, after every class I felt like I'd… https://t.co/90KTwDLFgB
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:21:10 I have more memories as a novice trainer kicked into a job #eltchat lots changed!
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:21:30 @Marisa_C You're lucky- many don't hav documentry evidence of much of career. I posted 20k times on forum which wen… https://t.co/XGzyExVwWP
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:21:49 @Marisa_C  #eltchat FORTUNATELY many Ss learn in spite of their Ts.
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:22:25 I have a lesson where the class is killing themselves for me and I don't crack a single smile :-D #ELTchat  I was shocked to see it
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:22:26 @seburnt @GlenysHanson @Marisa_C What's saying, "change is the only constant". I'd say my concept of change itself… https://t.co/Kq9gQPJq91
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:23:50 @GlenysHanson Definitely - if I recall MY english teachers, ,... yikes the amount of lecturing about words i had to… https://t.co/pODDvRpgbu
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:24:00 @GlenysHanson @Marisa_C was v. formal w/ my Ss at beginning. I've now become v. friendly-casual, knowing that 'good… https://t.co/9eQUHC3U04
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:24:48 @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C I've also changed my level of investment and resulting professionalism by far since then to… https://t.co/mqu0YVcZkJ
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:25:04 @GlenysHanson @Marisa_C didn't have ANY idea of that as novice T. completely changed!!! now I factor in learning ha… https://t.co/zuZvXqKbKc
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:26:01 @seburnt @tesolmatthew ... and when I grow up I want to be a....?   Neither did I to be quite honest, was a music m… https://t.co/ziDSVZ6BIX
David__Boughton 2017-06-21T18:27:09 @seburnt @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C I think that's a great part of any English teacher's career. When you decide to stay. #eltchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:28:32 @Marisa_C @tesolmatthew I thought I'd be a writer for a magazine and fiction novelist. #eltchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:28:45 Check out this article Tyson and #ELTchat folks on that topic https://t.co/8SRyQh9CjN :) https://t.co/d5FIb0bRws
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:29:22 That probably is the foundational catalyst for a cascade of change in practice, beliefs, perceptions, efforts, etc.… https://t.co/p6kcAKGdjT
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:29:38 As a professional with some feelings of isolation and ownership (pre-internet) I was not giving or open to sharing at all #ELTchat
David__Boughton 2017-06-21T18:29:42 @seburnt @Marisa_C @tesolmatthew High school history teacher. #eltchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:29:42 @David__Boughton @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C And when was that for you? I made the final decision to commit when I was… https://t.co/3BcVYpc4DF
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:30:27 @Marisa_C  #eltchat Me too. I used to go into class weighed down with paper bags of "stuff". Barely noticed the Ss.
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:30:56 @seburnt @David__Boughton @tesolmatthew Was earlier for me though I had also worked as a night club singer alrleady… https://t.co/xyMx3qRH9z
David__Boughton 2017-06-21T18:31:17 @seburnt @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C Like most, when I came back home from teaching abroad. Make or break time. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:32:24 @GlenysHanson what were these punters doing in my class :-D te he he (not really) but they should be running after… https://t.co/fWVsjcYcoc
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:33:39 I think another major shift for me was post MA when I realized somewhat more fully how isolated ELT was from mainstream education #ELTchat
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:33:41 @David__Boughton @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C Ha! It took me 3 years after that to decide. :) #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:34:41 It hadn't occurred to me before how tightly focus on ELT all the research and readings were #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:34:49 me too, & was in danger of being broken right when got back by first few horrible lessons back in the US… https://t.co/sTP8s3RCjC
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:35:20 @Marisa_C @seburnt @David__Boughton So that's why you're so comfortable in this #ELTchat disco right now, nice one
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:36:00 @tesolmatthew @seburnt @David__Boughton though disco was never my thing #eltchat
David__Boughton 2017-06-21T18:36:24 I remember early lessons full of long grammar explanations probably because I was enjoying learning the details of the language. #eltchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:36:33 @Imogen_xxx @seburnt @David__Boughton @Marisa_C Well as you see in the #ELTchat...we ALL go through it, and grow an… https://t.co/I7Jiv3CEJM
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:37:05 @Imogen_xxx @seburnt @David__Boughton @tesolmatthew remember to write #eltchat in every tweet if u want us to talk to you :-)
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:38:13 @David__Boughton But grammar is so ENJOYABLE!!! :-) #eltchat (there! I gave myself away as a cryptogrammar lover )
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:38:38 perception of typcll learner & what 2expect them 2do w/ task/activty X has changed gone from pessimist 2 optimist changd everything #ELTchat
MrChrisJWilson 2017-06-21T18:38:41 #eltchat Somehow missed the start of this. Where are we?
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:39:08 @Imogen_xxx @David__Boughton @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C You'll do fine. And if you mess up, we've all been there. :) #eltchat
David__Boughton 2017-06-21T18:39:26 @Marisa_C So enjoyable, it's tough to let go of in your lessons. #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:39:36 @Marisa_C  #eltchat Or use https://t.co/xq5SK6UBQA & it'll do it for you. The feed is slow, though. I use Tweetdeck at the same time.
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:39:42 @MrChrisJWilson We've been discussing stuff like change to seeing as 'real' job/career, beliefs about role in lesso… https://t.co/3S0r45tK8D
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:39:44 Certainly can't do worse than some of us have fessed up!!! #eltchat https://t.co/cGtD9sFpKd
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:40:45 Of course my T'ing has dramaticlly changd based on my changing level of lang. awareness #ELTchat maybe as much as method, this influences?
Imogen_xxx 2017-06-21T18:40:51 @seburnt @David__Boughton @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C Thanks guys! I'll let you know if I've survived in September #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:41:12 My MA was a key changer in my teaching - I learnt to read and DO research - this was MAjor for me #ELTchat
MrChrisJWilson 2017-06-21T18:41:26 #eltchat I think the pendulum I keep noticing in my teaching is from more to less of a focus on form.
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:42:11 @David__Boughton wasn't enjoying it, was just trying 2talk myself into something that felt true mostly ;P #ELTchat… https://t.co/r300xtpZh4
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:42:40 For me the focus tends to start from genre and context and go to form rather than the other way round #eltchat https://t.co/TIp1b2NH8E
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:43:13 @MrChrisJWilson Choice of form is always fascinating in that sense #eltchat more now not less
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:44:22 Oh I can let go but it IS :-) #eltchat https://t.co/VeWZYQDOmH
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:45:19 I don't go with the unplugged flow where we let it all hang out and share the glow of learning no #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:46:27 @Imogen_xxx @seburnt @David__Boughton @seburnt  :Or use https://t.co/xq5SK6UBQA to automatically add #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:47:14 @GlenysHanson @Imogen_xxx @seburnt @David__Boughton great thanks for that Glenys #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:48:40 Any thoughts on education studies and ELT? #eltchat Should they be more connected or less?
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:48:48 @Marisa_C You mean you don't "do dogme"? #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:49:30 @Marisa_C I'd say for me the Dogme concept was a catalyst of change. Sort of a justification/framework for what I w… https://t.co/JDbhXS6cvH
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:50:16 @tesolmatthew I don't teach any more myself @tesolmatthew #eltchat but I wouldn't (all the way) on occasion I might #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:50:29 In some ways change has brought me BACK AROUND to early stuff but w/ wrinkles now. Like reading aloud, or dictation, etc. #ELTchat #oldisnew
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:51:17 As trainer watch 2 hrs novice teaching every morning; this keeps me VERY aware of what it was like for me #ELTchat and how much I've changed
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:52:04 @tesolmatthew well, so do I - so do I - though at Delta level mostly now #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:52:30 Fascinating2me: how much 'apparent' change happens on short courses like CELTA, but then longer arc deepr change starts over after #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T18:52:55 @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C For me it was the Silent Way that did the trick - Before I knew what I wanted to do in clas… https://t.co/eubIb9fDJL
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:53:35 @tesolmatthew How much has CELTA or DELTA changed over the years? #eltchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:54:17 @seburnt not that much but some top down #ELTchat but the trainers have changed, and so bottom up change is unavoidable? perhaps...
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:54:34 @GlenysHanson @tesolmatthew a lot of what happens in the silent way is not unlike Dogme - did an advanced demo with… https://t.co/LXPMprAKuU
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:55:01 I used to thing teacher's personal anecdotes prolly self-absorbed but now I realize yr in great position to tell stories so I do #ELTchat
MrChrisJWilson 2017-06-21T18:55:03 @tesolmatthew @Marisa_C I came across Dogme as I was starting and it was exciting. I wouldn't say my lessons as dog… https://t.co/HE3yR5KMwF
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:55:53 told story of my game-saving play in soccer game in which I also broke my wrist this morning (between CELTAs). Ss in wrapt attn #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:55:57 @seburnt @tesolmatthew The syllabus hasn't changed much - more so on the delta than the CELTA - but it's flexible a… https://t.co/Z2nUFsu1bz
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:57:12 We're getting close to time when the disco shuts down (the neighbors DO complain!). I will do the summary (remix selectah!) #ELTchat :)
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:57:31 @GlenysHanson @tesolmatthew of course - just saying where it got some of its inspiration perhaps or not - so we cou… https://t.co/wkgQvcxG0s
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:58:53 Another aspect always shifting: target learners and their motivations for learning English #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T18:59:16 Not many people today but some excellent tweets shared - hope the #slowburn #eltchat friends continue  sharing their thoughts and changes
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T18:59:20 Folks #ELTchat please continue by filling out the "I used to..Now I..." table here: https://t.co/4LMTf7f0oD :) https://t.co/nWNEehbOuF
seburnt 2017-06-21T18:59:53 Seems like 'vacation learning' was dominant 15 years ago... now more focused on academic study or work motivations. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T19:00:06 Says Rob (with #ELTchat hashtag now) https://t.co/Bx2oc87X0r
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:00:24 will use that to org. part of my summary. like it cuz it's a lot like an ESL activity for 'used to' lessons, no? #ELTchat share around!
seburnt 2017-06-21T19:02:53 @tesolmatthew OK, I started it off... :) #eltchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:04:32 Our hour is up for live #ELTchat but as @Marisa_C mentioned, the slowburn is on! See https://t.co/4LMTf7f0oD for easy way to share as well!
fionaljp 2017-06-21T19:07:50 @Marisa_C Sorry I missed #eltchat tonight
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T19:08:14 @tesolmatthew like the doc - Will pop in to check any further discussions but am off now to touch up my 'Language A… https://t.co/rtB8R6tJdh
robshpprd 2017-06-21T19:08:47 @Marisa_C Haha sorry! I usually only get to the #eltchat when it's already done. :)
Marisa_C 2017-06-21T19:09:11 @GlenysHanson @David__Boughton where is that  group - do u also read grammar books in bed? :-D #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:09:52 @Marisa_C OH to be a fly on the wall! #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:10:50 I was mentioning change that actually olds back in old things, not replacing stuff per se. I love this image for th… https://t.co/Jr5sUN9BD0
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:11:19 *folds back #ELTchat #typotypo
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:12:51 That comes from this book: https://t.co/chkFspLhtS (I didn't go to arch. school ;P) #ELTchat but I bet @pterolaur knows it maybe
GlenysHanson 2017-06-21T19:18:03 @Marisa_C  #eltchat Grammar Geeks: https://t.co/HzgxkE2SeN I think you have to join Linkedin first. I was hooked on GG in bed or out.
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:34:21 @pterolaur "informed simplicity" nice way 2describe expert ESL T'ing practices no? #ELTchat @robshpprd… https://t.co/9IqdENgNK0
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:35:18 @Marisa_C thanks to you! u're ALWAYS leading us forward even when the DJ is late and you have to stomp your feel an… https://t.co/lVDNWpIDIw
fionaljp 2017-06-21T19:36:47 @seburnt @tesolmatthew Great idea. Sorry I missed #eltchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T19:45:32 There is no true "missing" of an #ELTchat. It's an open table open 24-7...Thanks for engaging! :) https://t.co/4MlkMp47oR
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T20:00:35 What beliefs and practices have CHANGED the most for you over the years? How n' why? That's the #ELTchat topic for… https://t.co/OL2zQ2Tm7q
robshpprd 2017-06-21T20:13:51 @tesolmatthew @pterolaur @getgreatenglish @michaelegriffin Yeah I like that turn of phrase a lot. Immediately added… https://t.co/HIYZPuv9zc
robshpprd 2017-06-21T20:14:42 @tesolmatthew @pterolaur @getgreatenglish @michaelegriffin We should def collaborate for a session on graphic desig… https://t.co/dbhiFfQaL8
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T20:15:41 @robshpprd @pterolaur @getgreatenglish @michaelegriffin It's great. #ELTchat one of those coffee table books you fi… https://t.co/BRH4Jegk5f
GregBCurran 2017-06-21T22:20:57 I thought it wouldn't work. Turns out I was wrong > https://t.co/7a8SGbSwCf #SoJustEdu #eltchat #physed https://t.co/8X019Tax93
XinJeisan 2017-06-21T22:28:34 RT @tesolmatthew: @pterolaur "informed simplicity" nice way 2describe expert ESL T'ing practices no? #ELTchat @robshpprd @getgreatenglish @…
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T22:48:49 Could you add this to the "I used to... / Now I..." #ELTchat spreadsheet here: https://t.co/4LMTf7f0oDhttps://t.co/0UMCrsGWAi
tesolmatthew 2017-06-21T22:52:44 Our #ELTchat in slowburn now. check out "latest" stream of hashtag and weigh in w/ tweets, OR add to our GDoc here:… https://t.co/dlYvHvSgG5
ddeubel 2017-06-21T23:59:45 What I find perplexing is the allgoverning notion that with experience/time we become better teachers. That is not always true. #eltchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T00:14:08 Something that has NOT changed for me: I've always liked to write very sketchnotey, visual lesson plans. This one 1… https://t.co/PLcX4OmXTX
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T01:07:43 #ELTchat materials design, WB work, teacher fashion, standing/sitting ratio...all good layers when thinking re: how… https://t.co/dOUXFV7PM1
cecilianobreelt 2017-06-22T01:33:45 I dont pre-teach vocab as often as I used to, rather I tend to work on emergent language #ELTchat
cecilianobreelt 2017-06-22T01:37:01 I embrace TTT rather than lower it #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T01:57:33 @cecilianobreelt What made you change? Any particular individual experiences or influenced or simply a natural shifting over time? #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T05:23:52 this week's #ELTchat is showing that teachers learn & grow & change a lot over time; don't know why but it seems im… https://t.co/Z9gDPaxbJS
Ven_VVE 2017-06-22T06:10:21 I used to correct spoken language much more often. Now I only jump in if a high-frequency word is mispronounced. #eltchat
ELTdanbuller 2017-06-22T07:18:23 Used to think audiolingual methods were useless and boring, but now I think some can be a helpful/engaging part of balanced course. #eltchat
ELTdanbuller 2017-06-22T07:36:25 Used to have strong feelings re what does/doesn't "work", but now try to be open to the possibility of many things that CAN work. #eltchat
ELTdanbuller 2017-06-22T07:46:41 Used to think reading problems mostly due to bad reading strategies but now tend to see vocabulary as the main issue. #eltchat 1/
ELTdanbuller 2017-06-22T07:48:52 My ELT career has had two main eras: before Vocab Myths by Folse, and after #eltchat 2/
ELTdanbuller 2017-06-22T08:03:35 @Marisa_C 1st years were mostly fear and self-doubt interrupted once in a while by encouraging comments from others… https://t.co/CUWtAsSZL5
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T11:10:25 cut teeth on Interchange too. Yellow-red-blue-green, no? ;) Mostly @ AUA in Bangkok 4me. Jack C. Richards loomed LA… https://t.co/7cpGzDiY9R
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T11:12:29 We've got at least another three weeks of topics and scheduled chats then we'll see. Check 'latest' tab at… https://t.co/ND61t53c1J
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T11:14:28 Interesting. Wonder what's the ratio of folks like you to folks for whom more of the inverse is the direction of ch… https://t.co/GX3fqpY87R
tesolmatthew 2017-06-22T11:14:57 RT @cecilianobreelt: I dont pre-teach vocab as often as I used to, rather I tend to work on emergent language #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-06-22T14:29:50 @tesolmatthew Wow, I worked at AUA Bangkok too! - and yes, we used Interchange!  Memories -1999. #ELTchat
BobK99 2017-06-22T14:50:40 @GlenysHanson Me too (barely noticing Ss) - spent many an hour making some very cool (not to say USELESS) resources :-) #eltchat


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