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How to prepare for CELTA or Cert pre-course

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ELTchat 2017-05-03T08:47:52 #ELTchat today at 7 p.m. GMT - "How to prepare and what to study before your first CELTA or equivalent course… https://t.co/LD0CJyg8IV
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T15:09:10 Tonight's #eltchat and we're just discussing our pre-course task and a possible grammar extension course, perfect t… https://t.co/1us5Yk7Jb8
kamilaofprague 2017-05-03T17:27:47 @ELTchat @SueAnnan Sorry, won't make it today. Marking. Enjoy the chat! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T17:29:07 @kamilaofprague @ELTchat sorry to hear that. Good luck with the marking #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T17:56:33 @kamilaofprague @ELTchat @SueAnnan I've got a pile of marking too - #eltchat is perfect for procrastination!
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T17:57:03 @TeresaBestwick @kamilaofprague @ELTchat Just one little hour :-) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:00:52 @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan Hello ladies - ready to talk about how to prep for your first TEFL and may be even for th… https://t.co/chrDTXmVzg
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:01:08 who's around for #ELTchat tonight?
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:02:12 Hello #ELTchat people :-D
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:03:19 hmmm where are those ppl who asked for CELTA prep? #eltchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:03:41 @SueAnnan Hello, I am. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:03:50 @Marisa_C I hope they show up :) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:05:10 @fionaljp @SueAnnan you might want to send a shout to #celtachat ppl too - so the moodle u were talking about is fo… https://t.co/64cWALGx6c
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:05:24 Hello there #eltchat - I am multitasking a bit, but since online, thought I'd aim for a little bit here and there. Be gentle. ;)
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:05:50 @seburnt Great to see you here #ELTchat
harrisonmike 2017-05-03T18:06:01 This is a context I can’t even imagine – didn’t do CELTA and had little idea what to expect on my ITT course… https://t.co/EvziehrXxg
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:06:08 @Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan No, we run Trinity courses here in Cádiz #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:06:12 @seburnt Hey @seburnt we are always gentle :-) Welcome! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:06:52 what do trainees need to know for CELTA? #ELTchat
harrisonmike 2017-05-03T18:06:54 I did a PGCE in ESOL (teaching adults in further ed colleges) so there was less of the trad EFL names on the reading list #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:07:24 @seburnt We always are ;) #ELTchat Welcome :)
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:07:29 @harrisonmike So a clearer look into course objectives? Many centres do this but cands do not read! #eltchat - so a… https://t.co/mqCaY9xFTO
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:07:47 @harrisonmike Welcome Mike :) #eltchat
harrisonmike 2017-05-03T18:07:51 More to do with FE policy, more general educational matters rather than ELT #eltchat – so will follow the chat with interest :)
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:08:39 @harrisonmike but a first course is a first course no matter the focus - what would have made things easier had you… https://t.co/pTUh3TH9d3
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:09:06 We have a distance learning course with tasks to be completed and handed in #ELTchat Methodology, phonology and grammar
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:09:32 I find they read other trainees' blogs more than they read course handbooks, for example #eltchat https://t.co/zTNSHopTJi
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:09:45 @SueAnnan Do trainees pay extra for it, or is it part of the cert/CELTA course? #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:09:59 @Marisa_C @harrisonmike That’s a nice idea pre-course quiz. Could also encourage candidates to get to know each other. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:10:25 @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan For the CELTA it's part of their pre-course preparation. Mandatory, no extra charge. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:10:35 That's what we are preparing as well - good thinking - we have a huge number of resources but need to be pared down… https://t.co/QsUQRsfvai
harrisonmike 2017-05-03T18:10:43 @Marisa_C true, but it’s difficult for me to think back. What do I know now that would have been useful to know the… https://t.co/BMLa1aahHn
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:10:43 @TeresaBestwick It's part of my CertTESOL. I like them to be able to hit the ground running #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:11:14 @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan On Cert we have a pre-course task (around Harmer) but looking at making it more in-depth #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:11:49 @fionaljp @harrisonmike we do on the first day to make sure e.g CELTA 5's have been read etc - #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:12:09 @SueAnnan I feel the same - some trainees (often NS) come with no idea about grammar! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:12:17 I think what is also useful is to actually make references back to it during the course. It will be more meaningful… https://t.co/sAOClorNjO
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:12:47 @SueAnnan Phonology - people tend to be on a more even keel though #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:13:02 @angelos_bollas Agree - have noticed that once done not referred to by tutors #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:13:15 @angelos_bollas We use the first day/week to integrate the precourse learning into the course #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:13:41 @Marisa_C We need to work on that ;) #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:13:45 @angelos_bollas Definitely - adds value to the task and brings things together more for trainees #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:13:57 RT @TeresaBestwick: @angelos_bollas Definitely - adds value to the task and brings things together more for trainees #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:14:21 @SueAnnan That's nice.. and makes their transition in the course smoother. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:14:29 @TeresaBestwick that's why we like to have them prepare in advance #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:14:50 @angelos_bollas Been guilty of that as well as a CELTA tutor #eltchat somehow intensity of the course steamrollers… https://t.co/LG2yD8S87Y
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:15:33 @angelos_bollas without it they would struggle iMOWe have an Unknown language session on day 1, which needs methodology knowledge#ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:15:54 @Marisa_C We could make it more interactive.. Something like a pre-course moodle mini-course where trainees get to… https://t.co/KdsTQJNVVn
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:16:18 @SueAnnan on day 1? That's a good 'shocker' :) #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:16:22 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C even just a simple wiki would work#ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:16:56 @angelos_bollas We do have a wiki but wikis don't have the forum feel of say Edmodo or Wiggio or sth similar #ELTchat
Gracielastwit 2017-05-03T18:17:04 @ELTchat #ELTchat perfect
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:17:13 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Yep, we're thinking of going digital. Worries about scaring trainees off though if it's too overwhelming! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:17:13 @angelos_bollas they have an hour a day for the first week. They love it #ELTchat at the moment it's Bahasa Indonesian
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:17:47 I think that's a good point. We don't want to scare trainees off when we prep them for the actual course #eltchat https://t.co/mf4esPjKpt
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:18:15 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C On my last CELTA  I tried Edmodo for the first time but as freelance didn’t get chance fo… https://t.co/r9VrnTN8eB
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T18:18:24 hello #eltchat :)
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:18:34 @HeleneCombe Hello :) Welcome #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:19:00 So what kind of prep do they need? Admin? Academic? ...? #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:19:27 @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Yep, we're keen to limit pre-course expenses too!  Something which requires min… https://t.co/2ly3wajYhy
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:19:42 @angelos_bollas what do you mean by admin? #ELTchat
Gracielastwit 2017-05-03T18:20:09 I'm preparing for CELTA with Learning Teaching by Jim Scrivener. Any further suggestions? #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:20:11 @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C #ELTchat Hi guys! We recently went digital on ours and it has been so muc… https://t.co/OFMsEJydnZ
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:20:16 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Perhaps organisational skills!  Would be wonderful for some trainees, but tricky to teach!!! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:20:34 @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I have the afternoons off a fortnight before the course to mark everything #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:20:38 Language awareness - st0raightforward structure/function tasks both for native and non-native #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:21:11 @angelos_bollas #eltchat But at the same time you want them to be aware of how challenging it will be, no?
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:21:16 @SueAnnan Photocopying procedure in place, where to find certain things, who to contact in case of... #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:21:17 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C In what way was it less stress? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:21:32 @ChrisPatrickF @TeresaBestwick @Marisa_C Hi Chris. What have you used? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:21:38 @Marisa_C And clines for vocab too #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:21:41 A mini study skills pack on how to organise your course work - we used to do it on the Delta - got lots of stuff 0… https://t.co/t22TpdcvOI
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:21:51 And so needed on those courses... #eltchat https://t.co/HsTJQgYqOe
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:22:08 @HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I think it’s a very nice platform for sharing docs and interacting #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:22:16 @ChrisPatrickF Absolutely. It's only fair for them to be prepared in advance #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:22:36 @angelos_bollas I put all of that in an email the day before: where to park, what to bring, where to find help etc #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:22:51 @Marisa_C #ELTchat Great idea!
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:23:01 Our content for the delta has been digital since 2000 but for the celta since 2009 we started our first wiki #eltchat
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:23:43 Maybe a pre-course guide w key terms? What a lesson plan looks like? Awareness of what outcomes look like in realit… https://t.co/auFKVKLkjF
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:24:22 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Really important to focus on the non-academic things, ensure candidates are in the best f… https://t.co/sHh6VwQRO8
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:24:23 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Yes, but again this could be included in quiz - more memorable? + fun #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:24:26 @seburnt There is one for TKT by Cambridge - A page on plagiarism and plagiarism checkers ?- #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:24:29 @seburnt The technicalities of completing a lesson plan is also a good suggestion, yes! #eltchat
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:25:04 @Marisa_C We have little in our pre-course stuff here (not CELTA specific, though). #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:25:16 @angelos_bollas @seburnt don't you have an input session on that? #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:25:30 @HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C but yes, practice required! #eltchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:25:32 @seburnt #ELTchat Some reflection task on the teaching they have received and it's effectiveness? Get the critical reflection going early!
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:25:36 @seburnt I like the idea of sample completed proformas...so much paperwork on the average course - seeing it before… https://t.co/assUgHWafU
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:26:07 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt that's part of the tasks my guys have pre course #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:26:12 @SueAnnan @seburnt We do but I think they need to now before. 1st day they observe an experienced teacher following… https://t.co/MOzX9al3tD
Liam_ELT 2017-05-03T18:26:37 Currently dreaming of a glossary that will guide and not terrify trainees.. .#eltchat https://t.co/vlEysMcAHW
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:27:00 @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @seburnt Agreed, it would be great if they had an idea of it beforehand #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:27:05 @angelos_bollas @seburnt Okay. I don't let mine in a classroom until week 2. They learn all the useful stuff in week 1#ELTchat
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:27:28 RT @Liam_ELT: Currently dreaming of a glossary that will guide and not terrify trainees.. .#eltchat https://t.co/vlEysMcAHW
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:27:48 @SueAnnan @seburnt Do they have time on a full time course to wait until week 2? That's ideal! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2017-05-03T18:28:29 sorry got to leave early today - school reunion!! will read all your ideas later - #eltchat bye all
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:28:34 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @seburnt Interesting!  Would be great to see how the course is structured #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:28:46 @SueAnnan @seburnt And how does it go? Do you find that they are able to give an adequate account of their 'apprent… https://t.co/xbXAG5wX7I
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:28:56 @angelos_bollas @seburnt Yes. They have plenty of time, but my course is top heavy. The teaching is week 2-4 in the afternoons. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:28:56 @Liam_ELT Yes, it’s hard to find a balance #eltchat
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:29:33 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Maybe extra time in prep before Week 1 would help absorb a little better all the onslaugh… https://t.co/A5uRZlrvHo
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T18:29:38 I have done the TKT before doing the CELTA, and it's a great pre course ! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:30:34 @SueAnnan @seburnt That's heavy indeed #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:30:38 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @seburnt That's a real soft lead in, perhaps we throw them in too early (day 3)! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:30:41 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt They are reading about methodologies at the same time, so essay on how THEY learned, or wha… https://t.co/4nt20WDTSK
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:31:06 @Liam_ELT Get writing! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:31:30 @HeleneCombe It would be ideal for all our trainees to have done TKT before actually #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:31:33 @HeleneCombe @seburnt @angelos_bollas that's what we do #ELTchat
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:31:41 @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Not necessarily a course (imho) as that adds time and cost, but flipped clas… https://t.co/Apyzy8feL5
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:31:48 @HeleneCombe That’s such a good idea. Great prep. Will really support your CELTA. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:32:20 @seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Sth like a moodle course where tutors only moderate self-access tasks? #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:32:35 @SueAnnan @seburnt Yeah I agree, I think it should be included in all preparatory training courses #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:33:12 @seburnt @HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas My website has bitesized things as and when they are ready. But the homework… https://t.co/OhZEJ1jKQh
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:33:19 @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan or not Moodle as a platform.... ;) #eltchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:34:06 @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe yes, or something similar: elttraining @JGakonga Pre-CELTA Grammar course https://t.co/qPMLZGLQGh #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:34:19 @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe I just have a simple weebly website #ELTchat Easy to navigate, not scary for technophobes
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:34:23 @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Not a fan of moodle?  Just asking as I'm setting up a digital pre-c… https://t.co/OChUAQVc4z
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:34:30 @seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan I am not a moodle lover actually #ELTchat
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T18:34:35 @fionaljp it seemed really logical to start with TKT and then do the CELTA!Once you get the concepts straight,it's… https://t.co/1Ldt6qwNEv
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:34:46 @seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Nice #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:35:09 @SueAnnan @seburnt @HeleneCombe True - I have used them once for a presentation and I liked them but I never though… https://t.co/qRtQNFFBFY
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:35:15 @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @JGakonga Jo does really good videos #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:35:30 @seburnt @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Week 1 is really the make or break one isn't it, survival of the fittest with th… https://t.co/0EJdtGFHn9
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:35:32 @SueAnnan @fionaljp @HeleneCombe @JGakonga Yes, she does! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:35:48 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @SueAnnan Exactly! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:36:17 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas But lots of the jargon can be introduced in the pre tasks #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:36:45 @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Edmodo? far less clunky and far more interactive #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:37:23 @fionaljp @seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Haven't actually used it but I have seen it work well #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:37:33 Have you seen the CELTA teaching companion by Rachael Roberts? Its available from the ROUND as an e-book. #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:37:43 @SueAnnan @seburnt @angelos_bollas Exactly, and should be. Then if only people would actually do their pre tasks...! #ELTchat
JGakonga 2017-05-03T18:37:59 @SueAnnan @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe #eltchat thanks Sue!
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:38:12 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas Make them mandatory #ELTchat Mine have no option
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:38:40 @JGakonga @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe Hi Jo #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:38:40 @SueAnnan Yep, very useful #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:39:50 For CertTESOL there is a great new book too. The Trinity Cert companion by Jason Anderson #ELTchat
seburnt 2017-05-03T18:39:50 @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Not a fan AT ALL. So confusing and ugly. #eltchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:40:13 @SueAnnan @seburnt @angelos_bollas We strongly advise doing ours but not mandatory. Do you grade them as well? #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:40:18 @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Hee hee - good to know...going to investigate weebly :) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:40:19 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @SueAnnan How much terminology would you cover as pre-course prep? #ELTchat
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T18:40:20 @SueAnnan @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas if it's not mandatory, they won't do it, that's for sure #eltchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:40:45 Future LearnExploring the World of English Language Teaching- would be good prep too + free #eltchat https://t.co/SeFovnMJlg
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:40:47 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas Yes. and tell them that they will be read by the moderator at the end of the course #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:40:55 @ChrisPatrickF @SueAnnan @seburnt No, we don't grade them AT ALL but we ask them to bring the tasks completed on day 1 #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:41:03 @SueAnnan @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt Is that the case? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:41:12 RT @fionaljp: Future LearnExploring the World of English Language Teaching- would be good prep too + free #eltchat https://t.co/SeFovnMJlg
JGakonga 2017-05-03T18:41:17 @SueAnnan @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe #eltchat Hi everyone -not often I get to this - you should mention… https://t.co/m1rrSl7YlN
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:41:39 @JGakonga @SueAnnan @fionaljp @HeleneCombe Welcome Jo! :-D Good to have you with us #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:42:03 @angelos_bollas @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt Na #ELTChat but sometimes they do
Gracielastwit 2017-05-03T18:42:13 @HeleneCombe #ELTchat  Thanks, Helene. I'll have a look.
bar_zie 2017-05-03T18:43:00 RT @ELTchat: #ELTchat today at 7 p.m. GMT - "How to prepare and what to study before your first CELTA or equivalent course https://t.co/O…
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:43:06 @TeresaBestwick @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Digital pre-course - how exciting! #eltchat Difficu… https://t.co/gB66lOhyon
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:43:22 @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @seburnt @angelos_bollas To be fair, most do. Wd be nice if they all did. How would you polu… https://t.co/o4HU6SuiZv
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:43:38 So, terminology, useful info re the course, language awareness tasks ... what else do you include? #eltchat
JGakonga 2017-05-03T18:43:52 I guess the problem with anything pre-course is that some people sign up really early and some last minute #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:43:56 @fionaljp @TeresaBestwick @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe Not easy, certainly. When you work for a centre, do… https://t.co/EZf6vOLCMx
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:44:50 @JGakonga I don't accept last minute peeps unless they are amazing #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:45:05 @JGakonga Very true - we had a guy one time interview on Friday and start Monday! #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:45:10 @angelos_bollas @seburnt @SueAnnan There is a risk of info dumping here #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:45:46 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt You need to determine the value of what is there. No info dumping #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:46:08 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt @SueAnnan and scaring the trainees before they even start! #eltchat
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T18:46:09 @SueAnnan @JGakonga I find it extremely hard to accept people less than at least 1 week in advance.. how are they s… https://t.co/It2XQfRdGe
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:46:38 @fionaljp @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt yep #ELTchat
JGakonga 2017-05-03T18:46:42 @SueAnnan That's ideal but if you need the numbers, what to do?! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:46:49 @JGakonga That's very true Jo.. And some people do invest time in prep but others don't #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:47:24 @JGakonga I already have a full course for SEptember /October. If anyone drops out- so be it #ELTchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:47:37 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @seburnt Judicious selection of what they need to know and when they need to know it. I t… https://t.co/0Bmgl246r2
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:47:50 @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @JGakonga It is very difficult for us and for them but... sometimes you cannot do otherwise #ELTchat
JGakonga 2017-05-03T18:48:03 @angelos_bollas Absolutely - even if they've signed up well in advance #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:48:19 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt absolutely agree. No point in overload- it becomes clear when it is needed #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:48:26 @SueAnnan @JGakonga Do you find certain course dates are more appealing?  We only run two summer courses so not a lot of choice #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:48:28 @JGakonga @SueAnnan Good point - as long as you’re confident you can get them through - no need to be amazing #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:48:44 @ChrisPatrickF @SueAnnan @seburnt We've also minimised the jargon we use in CELTA courses - just the necessary ones #eltchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:48:58 @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @JGakonga Sometimes it's not your choice, it's a business decision #ELTchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:49:25 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @JGakonga true #eltchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:49:51 @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @seburnt That's a whole other days work! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:50:26 @TeresaBestwick @JGakonga We do March /October, which was our quiet shoulder months.  March one offers us teachers… https://t.co/VzbjpztxjZ
RobertTaylorELT 2017-05-03T18:51:20 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt @SueAnnan Hang  on,  I've not been adding #ELTchat Permit me to catch up… https://t.co/EZKn2ogN7K
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T18:51:26 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @JGakonga and we can clearly see it's one!it's not fair to the trainees sometimes #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:51:49 to make easier for trainees to cope with course #ELTchat https://t.co/TYNQo9kWav
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:53:26 @HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @JGakonga True, it can sour the whole experience for them, and put a lot of… https://t.co/8i3pDcyrcL
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:54:54 #ELTchat https://t.co/pmFGLA8qgu
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:55:01 What about pre-course reading? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:55:17 @RobertTaylorELT @ChrisPatrickF remember the #ELTChat hashtag
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:55:58 @fionaljp The basics, Harmer, Scrivener, a Grammar book for Teachers, and one in phonology, I think. #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2017-05-03T18:55:58 @SueAnnan #ELTchat tagged at beg so no forget!Helpful to have e.g. of completed tasks (lesson vids, plan w tutor… https://t.co/lrfjKr8XS1
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:56:08 @fionaljp The new cert Companion book will make good reading, both pre and during course#ELTchat
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T18:56:40 @fionaljp My teacher provided me a list of pre course reading: classics (thornbury, scrivener..) and grammar books #eltchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:57:39 @fionaljp I think I prefer getting trainees DOING something. I know I don't enjoy pre-reading...though optional go-… https://t.co/wJxGRWA54j
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:58:07 @angelos_bollas @fionaljp Sound Foundations? Agreed there only needs to a short reading list #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:58:28 @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp That's why a website works- little bites of info+video clips etc #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:58:42 RT @SueAnnan: @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp That's why a website works- little bites of info+video clips etc #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T18:58:58 @ChrisPatrickF @fionaljp Yes, Sound Foundations is a good one :) #eltchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T18:59:06 @TeresaBestwick Yes, and worry they start buying and very expensive! better to borrow dip into at centre #eltchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T18:59:10 @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp You could tailor tasks around some books? Or even articles? #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T18:59:18 @SueAnnan @fionaljp Is your site access-only?  If not, could you share the link please :) #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T18:59:23 Coming to the end, but we will be going into slowburn mode for 24 hours. Who would like to write a summary of this chat? #ELTchat
RobertTaylorELT 2017-05-03T18:59:33 @SueAnnan #ELTchat Thank you
DianaEOI 2017-05-03T18:59:39 RT @SueAnnan: to make easier for trainees to cope with course #ELTchat https://t.co/TYNQo9kWav
tesolmatthew 2017-05-03T19:00:06 Missed the live #ELTchat but will be around during 24hr slowburn. Excited to get caught up and engage.
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T19:00:18 @SueAnnan Great topic, but can't offer this week - currently owing one #eltchat and one #celtachat summary!
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T19:00:31 @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan @fionaljp I would be very interested also :) #eltchat
RobertTaylorELT 2017-05-03T19:00:43 #ELTchat Would appreciate being sent examples of tagged #ELTchat tweets before the next #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T19:01:15 @tesolmatthew great. Will help crystallise your Celta experience #ELTchat #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T19:02:05 @RobertTaylorELT I will provide a transcript after the slowburn. It will be on here tomorrow evening. The summary will follow #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T19:02:47 @RobertTaylorELT And also on our Facebook page #ELTchat
HeleneCombe 2017-05-03T19:03:20 Thanks for this chat everyone!it was my first but I'll come back :)  #eltchat
ChrisPatrickF 2017-05-03T19:03:23 #eltchat Thanks all!
fionaljp 2017-05-03T19:03:39 @ChrisPatrickF @TeresaBestwick articles sound good #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T19:03:50 @HeleneCombe It was great to have you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T19:04:39 Thank you everyone for a most excellent chat. See you next week. Same place and time. #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-03T19:05:13 Thanks everyone - what a fabulous #eltchat :) xxx
JGakonga 2017-05-03T19:05:37 @SueAnnan Bye all #eltchat
SueAnnan 2017-05-03T19:06:58 Thanks everyone. Don't forget that the slowburn is there if you want to continue adding facts. #ELTchat Handing over to @tesolmatthew  now
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T19:07:15 RT @SueAnnan: Thanks everyone. Don't forget that the slowburn is there if you want to continue adding facts. #ELTchat Handing over to @teso…
angelos_bollas 2017-05-03T19:07:27 Have a great night people :) #eltchat
fionaljp 2017-05-03T19:12:00 Oops forgot hashtag  #eltchat https://t.co/7GRVwFh32k
kiwiprofesor 2017-05-03T19:33:19 Check out the Top ESL story: #ELTchat on Twitter: "#ELTchat today at 7 p.m. GMT… https://t.co/ke1XA7c1cM, see more https://t.co/Qw7xJxB0QR
fionaljp 2017-05-03T20:13:20 @SueAnnan @TeresaBestwick @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe I go to different centres so can't generalise re pr… https://t.co/4kToaPmat2
stephenbeale 2017-05-03T20:39:31 #ELTchat Looking to help people on their CELTA journey through writing articles. Any questions, tweet me! #celta… https://t.co/TxSmux2hja
purlandtraining 2017-05-03T20:43:25 RT @NikPeachey: 10 Tips for Making Self-Evaluations Meaningful https://t.co/HBqTyFueP7 #cpd #pln #elt #lamsig #tesol #edchat #eltchat https…
ElleninEdmonton 2017-05-03T21:32:12 @SueAnnan For me, the constant peer observation/feedback in CELTA was very draining. Rarely any feedback about what went well! #ELTchat
MohamdShehata83 2017-05-04T00:53:01 Looking for IELTS material to help me with online course.Many free tests online but what abt copyright. Any idea? #eltchat #teachingenglish
seburnt 2017-05-04T01:32:07 Acronyms. Some metalang. Maybe approach names... all with brief examples or pointing to where to learn more. Useful… https://t.co/CMioDpvBpJ
seburnt 2017-05-04T01:35:23 @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp Lots of doing during course. Pre-reading (basics) can also have its place. #eltchat
asiaEDchat 2017-05-04T01:36:20 RT @mr5scott: The 10 skills you need to thrive in the Fourth Industrial Revolution https://t.co/d6RbOup8lu #edchat #eltchat #asiaED @asiaED…
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:46:18 @Marisa_C @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan I've done 2 TEFL cert courses- the CELTA & the SIT TESOL. I've never met anyone… https://t.co/wNjKIDJvEu
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:53:13 @angelos_bollas I think there's handfl of blogposts 2 direct them towards. Also did any1 mention IHDublins "CELTA D… https://t.co/s8RxcpeZrT
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:54:08 @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Do you mean questions/tasks based on HTTE? #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:54:55 @angelos_bollas I've been meaning to incorporate Cambridge's Pre-Course Tasks into the course for ages...but...you know...life...#ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:55:31 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas jealous! and impressed. i really want to do more of that #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:57:35 @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas so true, same in teaching. often think of @TeachingVillage's *RRR* concept to remind myse… https://t.co/pM5FoEEIKp
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:58:14 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas We do CM input on Day 1, but I sometimes wish to change it to that one #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T03:59:07 @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C That's always in the back of my mind as well. Really need to keep these p… https://t.co/uCG9iNEKEp
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:00:22 @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C you mean you don't have all kinds of extra time, energy, and re… https://t.co/v15J6I4UrD
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:01:25 @Gracielastwit If you haven't already, skip to the final "deck of cards" section. A big batch of excellently juicy… https://t.co/fzz0W7aO4z
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:02:35 @Marisa_C Oh man, this is such a thing. For too many trainees this just gets dragged out and never really sorted. P… https://t.co/PccggZw30I
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:02:58 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas we do the same #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:03:45 @seburnt We do the first one, neither of the other two. #ELTchat Would love to know more about what you envision for #3...
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:03:59 @ChrisPatrickF @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas sounds good #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:04:41 @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt oh yeah PREflection baby #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:05:25 @TeresaBestwick @seburnt it almost feels like popping a bubble too early, but actually yeah i think it'd be good #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:09:42 @Liam_ELT #ELTchat right..something w/ soul and even humor. This book takes this approach... https://t.co/rQnWEmzB5A
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:10:52 @angelos_bollas @seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan me neither #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:12:01 @SueAnnan @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @JGakonga I'm kinda in awe of Jo's videos. The lucidity she imbues… https://t.co/QKXm4BoAVT
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:13:38  Looks great https://t.co/hGCquajwFC #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:14:01 @fionaljp I've suggested that a few times #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:17:12 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @fionaljp That's a big job to read for an inexperienced candidate #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:18:55 @Futurealisreal @Marisa_C @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan I write a very cursory post about it 3 years ago #ELTchat https://t.co/SjERHbghdF
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:19:55 @seburnt Right - more access to the "products" of the course, not just descriptions of what they'll do #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2017-05-04T04:21:20 @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @fionaljp that said- it's good one, surely. I recommend Folse's Teaching Grammar boo… https://t.co/xijdwrNpb6
TeresaBestwick 2017-05-04T06:17:39 @tesolmatthew @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Yeah, there are task files at the back which look at a lot of the basics. I… https://t.co/VGOynmeYpJ
Marisa_C 2017-05-04T10:09:10 Can you truly be an expert on the CELTA if you have just attended a course? #eltchat - #celtachat - I find this somewhat arrogant
Liam_ELT 2017-05-04T10:41:36 @fionaljp Very hard for someone with 0 experience to get much out of reading about it.. they've a limited frame of… https://t.co/OBRUVRHkgQ
ELTchat 2017-05-04T11:23:18 Our #ELTchat has again been nominated - https://t.co/w41VYPJPPE

 

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