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ELTchat |
2017-05-03T08:47:52 |
#ELTchat today at 7 p.m. GMT - "How to prepare and what to study before your first CELTA or equivalent course… https://t.co/LD0CJyg8IV |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T15:09:10 |
Tonight's #eltchat and we're just discussing our pre-course task and a possible grammar extension course, perfect t… https://t.co/1us5Yk7Jb8 |
kamilaofprague |
2017-05-03T17:27:47 |
@ELTchat @SueAnnan Sorry, won't make it today. Marking. Enjoy the chat! #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T17:29:07 |
@kamilaofprague @ELTchat sorry to hear that. Good luck with the marking #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T17:56:33 |
@kamilaofprague @ELTchat @SueAnnan I've got a pile of marking too - #eltchat is perfect for procrastination! |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T17:57:03 |
@TeresaBestwick @kamilaofprague @ELTchat Just one little hour :-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:00:52 |
@TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan Hello ladies - ready to talk about how to prep for your first TEFL and may be even for th… https://t.co/chrDTXmVzg |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:01:08 |
who's around for #ELTchat tonight? |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:02:12 |
Hello #ELTchat people :-D |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:03:19 |
hmmm where are those ppl who asked for CELTA prep? #eltchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:03:41 |
@SueAnnan Hello, I am. #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:03:50 |
@Marisa_C I hope they show up :) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:05:10 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan you might want to send a shout to #celtachat ppl too - so the moodle u were talking about is fo… https://t.co/64cWALGx6c |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:05:24 |
Hello there #eltchat - I am multitasking a bit, but since online, thought I'd aim for a little bit here and there. Be gentle. ;) |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:05:50 |
@seburnt Great to see you here #ELTchat |
harrisonmike |
2017-05-03T18:06:01 |
This is a context I can’t even imagine – didn’t do CELTA and had little idea what to expect on my ITT course… https://t.co/EvziehrXxg |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:06:08 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp @SueAnnan No, we run Trinity courses here in Cádiz #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:06:12 |
@seburnt Hey @seburnt we are always gentle :-) Welcome! #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:06:52 |
what do trainees need to know for CELTA? #ELTchat |
harrisonmike |
2017-05-03T18:06:54 |
I did a PGCE in ESOL (teaching adults in further ed colleges) so there was less of the trad EFL names on the reading list #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:07:24 |
@seburnt We always are ;) #ELTchat Welcome :) |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:07:29 |
@harrisonmike So a clearer look into course objectives? Many centres do this but cands do not read! #eltchat - so a… https://t.co/mqCaY9xFTO |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:07:47 |
@harrisonmike Welcome Mike :) #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
2017-05-03T18:07:51 |
More to do with FE policy, more general educational matters rather than ELT #eltchat – so will follow the chat with interest :) |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:08:39 |
@harrisonmike but a first course is a first course no matter the focus - what would have made things easier had you… https://t.co/pTUh3TH9d3 |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:09:06 |
We have a distance learning course with tasks to be completed and handed in #ELTchat Methodology, phonology and grammar |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:09:32 |
I find they read other trainees' blogs more than they read course handbooks, for example #eltchat https://t.co/zTNSHopTJi |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:09:45 |
@SueAnnan Do trainees pay extra for it, or is it part of the cert/CELTA course? #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:09:59 |
@Marisa_C @harrisonmike That’s a nice idea pre-course quiz. Could also encourage candidates to get to know each other. #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:10:25 |
@TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan For the CELTA it's part of their pre-course preparation. Mandatory, no extra charge. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:10:35 |
That's what we are preparing as well - good thinking - we have a huge number of resources but need to be pared down… https://t.co/QsUQRsfvai |
harrisonmike |
2017-05-03T18:10:43 |
@Marisa_C true, but it’s difficult for me to think back. What do I know now that would have been useful to know the… https://t.co/BMLa1aahHn |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:10:43 |
@TeresaBestwick It's part of my CertTESOL. I like them to be able to hit the ground running #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:11:14 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan On Cert we have a pre-course task (around Harmer) but looking at making it more in-depth #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:11:49 |
@fionaljp @harrisonmike we do on the first day to make sure e.g CELTA 5's have been read etc - #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:12:09 |
@SueAnnan I feel the same - some trainees (often NS) come with no idea about grammar! #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:12:17 |
I think what is also useful is to actually make references back to it during the course. It will be more meaningful… https://t.co/sAOClorNjO |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:12:47 |
@SueAnnan Phonology - people tend to be on a more even keel though #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:13:02 |
@angelos_bollas Agree - have noticed that once done not referred to by tutors #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:13:15 |
@angelos_bollas We use the first day/week to integrate the precourse learning into the course #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:13:41 |
@Marisa_C We need to work on that ;) #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:13:45 |
@angelos_bollas Definitely - adds value to the task and brings things together more for trainees #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:13:57 |
RT @TeresaBestwick: @angelos_bollas Definitely - adds value to the task and brings things together more for trainees #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:14:21 |
@SueAnnan That's nice.. and makes their transition in the course smoother. #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:14:29 |
@TeresaBestwick that's why we like to have them prepare in advance #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:14:50 |
@angelos_bollas Been guilty of that as well as a CELTA tutor #eltchat somehow intensity of the course steamrollers… https://t.co/LG2yD8S87Y |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:15:33 |
@angelos_bollas without it they would struggle iMOWe have an Unknown language session on day 1, which needs methodology knowledge#ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:15:54 |
@Marisa_C We could make it more interactive.. Something like a pre-course moodle mini-course where trainees get to… https://t.co/KdsTQJNVVn |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:16:18 |
@SueAnnan on day 1? That's a good 'shocker' :) #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:16:22 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C even just a simple wiki would work#ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:16:56 |
@angelos_bollas We do have a wiki but wikis don't have the forum feel of say Edmodo or Wiggio or sth similar #ELTchat |
Gracielastwit |
2017-05-03T18:17:04 |
@ELTchat #ELTchat perfect |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:17:13 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Yep, we're thinking of going digital. Worries about scaring trainees off though if it's too overwhelming! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:17:13 |
@angelos_bollas they have an hour a day for the first week. They love it #ELTchat at the moment it's Bahasa Indonesian |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:17:47 |
I think that's a good point. We don't want to scare trainees off when we prep them for the actual course #eltchat https://t.co/mf4esPjKpt |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:18:15 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C On my last CELTA I tried Edmodo for the first time but as freelance didn’t get chance fo… https://t.co/r9VrnTN8eB |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T18:18:24 |
hello #eltchat :) |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:18:34 |
@HeleneCombe Hello :) Welcome #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:19:00 |
So what kind of prep do they need? Admin? Academic? ...? #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:19:27 |
@fionaljp @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Yep, we're keen to limit pre-course expenses too! Something which requires min… https://t.co/2ly3wajYhy |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:19:42 |
@angelos_bollas what do you mean by admin? #ELTchat |
Gracielastwit |
2017-05-03T18:20:09 |
I'm preparing for CELTA with Learning Teaching by Jim Scrivener. Any further suggestions? #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:20:11 |
@TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C #ELTchat Hi guys! We recently went digital on ours and it has been so muc… https://t.co/OFMsEJydnZ |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:20:16 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Perhaps organisational skills! Would be wonderful for some trainees, but tricky to teach!!! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:20:34 |
@TeresaBestwick @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I have the afternoons off a fortnight before the course to mark everything #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:20:38 |
Language awareness - st0raightforward structure/function tasks both for native and non-native #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:21:11 |
@angelos_bollas #eltchat But at the same time you want them to be aware of how challenging it will be, no? |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:21:16 |
@SueAnnan Photocopying procedure in place, where to find certain things, who to contact in case of... #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:21:17 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C In what way was it less stress? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:21:32 |
@ChrisPatrickF @TeresaBestwick @Marisa_C Hi Chris. What have you used? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:21:38 |
@Marisa_C And clines for vocab too #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:21:41 |
A mini study skills pack on how to organise your course work - we used to do it on the Delta - got lots of stuff 0… https://t.co/t22TpdcvOI |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:21:51 |
And so needed on those courses... #eltchat https://t.co/HsTJQgYqOe |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:22:08 |
@HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I think it’s a very nice platform for sharing docs and interacting #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:22:16 |
@ChrisPatrickF Absolutely. It's only fair for them to be prepared in advance #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:22:36 |
@angelos_bollas I put all of that in an email the day before: where to park, what to bring, where to find help etc #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:22:51 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat Great idea! |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:23:01 |
Our content for the delta has been digital since 2000 but for the celta since 2009 we started our first wiki #eltchat |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:23:43 |
Maybe a pre-course guide w key terms? What a lesson plan looks like? Awareness of what outcomes look like in realit… https://t.co/auFKVKLkjF |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:24:22 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Really important to focus on the non-academic things, ensure candidates are in the best f… https://t.co/sHh6VwQRO8 |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:24:23 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Yes, but again this could be included in quiz - more memorable? + fun #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:24:26 |
@seburnt There is one for TKT by Cambridge - A page on plagiarism and plagiarism checkers ?- #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:24:29 |
@seburnt The technicalities of completing a lesson plan is also a good suggestion, yes! #eltchat |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:25:04 |
@Marisa_C We have little in our pre-course stuff here (not CELTA specific, though). #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:25:16 |
@angelos_bollas @seburnt don't you have an input session on that? #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:25:30 |
@HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C but yes, practice required! #eltchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:25:32 |
@seburnt #ELTchat Some reflection task on the teaching they have received and it's effectiveness? Get the critical reflection going early! |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:25:36 |
@seburnt I like the idea of sample completed proformas...so much paperwork on the average course - seeing it before… https://t.co/assUgHWafU |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:26:07 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt that's part of the tasks my guys have pre course #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:26:12 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt We do but I think they need to now before. 1st day they observe an experienced teacher following… https://t.co/MOzX9al3tD |
Liam_ELT |
2017-05-03T18:26:37 |
Currently dreaming of a glossary that will guide and not terrify trainees.. .#eltchat https://t.co/vlEysMcAHW |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:27:00 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @seburnt Agreed, it would be great if they had an idea of it beforehand #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:27:05 |
@angelos_bollas @seburnt Okay. I don't let mine in a classroom until week 2. They learn all the useful stuff in week 1#ELTchat |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:27:28 |
RT @Liam_ELT: Currently dreaming of a glossary that will guide and not terrify trainees.. .#eltchat https://t.co/vlEysMcAHW |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:27:48 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt Do they have time on a full time course to wait until week 2? That's ideal! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-03T18:28:29 |
sorry got to leave early today - school reunion!! will read all your ideas later - #eltchat bye all |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:28:34 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @seburnt Interesting! Would be great to see how the course is structured #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:28:46 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt And how does it go? Do you find that they are able to give an adequate account of their 'apprent… https://t.co/xbXAG5wX7I |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:28:56 |
@angelos_bollas @seburnt Yes. They have plenty of time, but my course is top heavy. The teaching is week 2-4 in the afternoons. #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:28:56 |
@Liam_ELT Yes, it’s hard to find a balance #eltchat |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:29:33 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Maybe extra time in prep before Week 1 would help absorb a little better all the onslaugh… https://t.co/A5uRZlrvHo |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T18:29:38 |
I have done the TKT before doing the CELTA, and it's a great pre course ! #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:30:34 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt That's heavy indeed #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:30:38 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @seburnt That's a real soft lead in, perhaps we throw them in too early (day 3)! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:30:41 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt They are reading about methodologies at the same time, so essay on how THEY learned, or wha… https://t.co/4nt20WDTSK |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:31:06 |
@Liam_ELT Get writing! #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:31:30 |
@HeleneCombe It would be ideal for all our trainees to have done TKT before actually #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:31:33 |
@HeleneCombe @seburnt @angelos_bollas that's what we do #ELTchat |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:31:41 |
@HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Not necessarily a course (imho) as that adds time and cost, but flipped clas… https://t.co/Apyzy8feL5 |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:31:48 |
@HeleneCombe That’s such a good idea. Great prep. Will really support your CELTA. #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:32:20 |
@seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Sth like a moodle course where tutors only moderate self-access tasks? #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:32:35 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt Yeah I agree, I think it should be included in all preparatory training courses #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:33:12 |
@seburnt @HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas My website has bitesized things as and when they are ready. But the homework… https://t.co/OhZEJ1jKQh |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:33:19 |
@angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan or not Moodle as a platform.... ;) #eltchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:34:06 |
@angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe yes, or something similar: elttraining @JGakonga Pre-CELTA Grammar course https://t.co/qPMLZGLQGh #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:34:19 |
@seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe I just have a simple weebly website #ELTchat Easy to navigate, not scary for technophobes |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:34:23 |
@seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Not a fan of moodle? Just asking as I'm setting up a digital pre-c… https://t.co/OChUAQVc4z |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:34:30 |
@seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan I am not a moodle lover actually #ELTchat |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T18:34:35 |
@fionaljp it seemed really logical to start with TKT and then do the CELTA!Once you get the concepts straight,it's… https://t.co/1Ldt6qwNEv |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:34:46 |
@seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Nice #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:35:09 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt @HeleneCombe True - I have used them once for a presentation and I liked them but I never though… https://t.co/qRtQNFFBFY |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:35:15 |
@fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @JGakonga Jo does really good videos #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:35:30 |
@seburnt @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Week 1 is really the make or break one isn't it, survival of the fittest with th… https://t.co/0EJdtGFHn9 |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:35:32 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp @HeleneCombe @JGakonga Yes, she does! #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:35:48 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @SueAnnan Exactly! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:36:17 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas But lots of the jargon can be introduced in the pre tasks #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:36:45 |
@seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Edmodo? far less clunky and far more interactive #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:37:23 |
@fionaljp @seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Haven't actually used it but I have seen it work well #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:37:33 |
Have you seen the CELTA teaching companion by Rachael Roberts? Its available from the ROUND as an e-book. #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:37:43 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt @angelos_bollas Exactly, and should be. Then if only people would actually do their pre tasks...! #ELTchat |
JGakonga |
2017-05-03T18:37:59 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe #eltchat thanks Sue! |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:38:12 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas Make them mandatory #ELTchat Mine have no option |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:38:40 |
@JGakonga @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe Hi Jo #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:38:40 |
@SueAnnan Yep, very useful #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:39:50 |
For CertTESOL there is a great new book too. The Trinity Cert companion by Jason Anderson #ELTchat |
seburnt |
2017-05-03T18:39:50 |
@TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Not a fan AT ALL. So confusing and ugly. #eltchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:40:13 |
@SueAnnan @seburnt @angelos_bollas We strongly advise doing ours but not mandatory. Do you grade them as well? #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:40:18 |
@seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Hee hee - good to know...going to investigate weebly :) #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:40:19 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @SueAnnan How much terminology would you cover as pre-course prep? #ELTchat |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T18:40:20 |
@SueAnnan @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas if it's not mandatory, they won't do it, that's for sure #eltchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:40:45 |
Future LearnExploring the World of English Language Teaching- would be good prep too + free #eltchat https://t.co/SeFovnMJlg |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:40:47 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt @angelos_bollas Yes. and tell them that they will be read by the moderator at the end of the course #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:40:55 |
@ChrisPatrickF @SueAnnan @seburnt No, we don't grade them AT ALL but we ask them to bring the tasks completed on day 1 #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:41:03 |
@SueAnnan @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt Is that the case? #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:41:12 |
RT @fionaljp: Future LearnExploring the World of English Language Teaching- would be good prep too + free #eltchat https://t.co/SeFovnMJlg |
JGakonga |
2017-05-03T18:41:17 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe #eltchat Hi everyone -not often I get to this - you should mention… https://t.co/m1rrSl7YlN |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:41:39 |
@JGakonga @SueAnnan @fionaljp @HeleneCombe Welcome Jo! :-D Good to have you with us #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:42:03 |
@angelos_bollas @ChrisPatrickF @seburnt Na #ELTChat but sometimes they do |
Gracielastwit |
2017-05-03T18:42:13 |
@HeleneCombe #ELTchat Thanks, Helene. I'll have a look. |
bar_zie |
2017-05-03T18:43:00 |
RT @ELTchat: #ELTchat today at 7 p.m. GMT - "How to prepare and what to study before your first CELTA or equivalent course https://t.co/O… |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:43:06 |
@TeresaBestwick @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan Digital pre-course - how exciting! #eltchat Difficu… https://t.co/gB66lOhyon |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:43:22 |
@HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @seburnt @angelos_bollas To be fair, most do. Wd be nice if they all did. How would you polu… https://t.co/o4HU6SuiZv |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:43:38 |
So, terminology, useful info re the course, language awareness tasks ... what else do you include? #eltchat |
JGakonga |
2017-05-03T18:43:52 |
I guess the problem with anything pre-course is that some people sign up really early and some last minute #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:43:56 |
@fionaljp @TeresaBestwick @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe Not easy, certainly. When you work for a centre, do… https://t.co/EZf6vOLCMx |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:44:50 |
@JGakonga I don't accept last minute peeps unless they are amazing #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:45:05 |
@JGakonga Very true - we had a guy one time interview on Friday and start Monday! #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:45:10 |
@angelos_bollas @seburnt @SueAnnan There is a risk of info dumping here #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:45:46 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt You need to determine the value of what is there. No info dumping #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:46:08 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt @SueAnnan and scaring the trainees before they even start! #eltchat |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T18:46:09 |
@SueAnnan @JGakonga I find it extremely hard to accept people less than at least 1 week in advance.. how are they s… https://t.co/It2XQfRdGe |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:46:38 |
@fionaljp @ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt yep #ELTchat |
JGakonga |
2017-05-03T18:46:42 |
@SueAnnan That's ideal but if you need the numbers, what to do?! #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:46:49 |
@JGakonga That's very true Jo.. And some people do invest time in prep but others don't #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:47:24 |
@JGakonga I already have a full course for SEptember /October. If anyone drops out- so be it #ELTchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:47:37 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @seburnt Judicious selection of what they need to know and when they need to know it. I t… https://t.co/0Bmgl246r2 |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:47:50 |
@HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @JGakonga It is very difficult for us and for them but... sometimes you cannot do otherwise #ELTchat |
JGakonga |
2017-05-03T18:48:03 |
@angelos_bollas Absolutely - even if they've signed up well in advance #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:48:19 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt absolutely agree. No point in overload- it becomes clear when it is needed #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:48:26 |
@SueAnnan @JGakonga Do you find certain course dates are more appealing? We only run two summer courses so not a lot of choice #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:48:28 |
@JGakonga @SueAnnan Good point - as long as you’re confident you can get them through - no need to be amazing #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:48:44 |
@ChrisPatrickF @SueAnnan @seburnt We've also minimised the jargon we use in CELTA courses - just the necessary ones #eltchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:48:58 |
@angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @JGakonga Sometimes it's not your choice, it's a business decision #ELTchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:49:25 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan @JGakonga true #eltchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:49:51 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @seburnt That's a whole other days work! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:50:26 |
@TeresaBestwick @JGakonga We do March /October, which was our quiet shoulder months. March one offers us teachers… https://t.co/VzbjpztxjZ |
RobertTaylorELT |
2017-05-03T18:51:20 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @seburnt @SueAnnan Hang on, I've not been adding #ELTchat Permit me to catch up… https://t.co/EZKn2ogN7K |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T18:51:26 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @JGakonga and we can clearly see it's one!it's not fair to the trainees sometimes #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:51:49 |
to make easier for trainees to cope with course #ELTchat https://t.co/TYNQo9kWav |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:53:26 |
@HeleneCombe @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan @JGakonga True, it can sour the whole experience for them, and put a lot of… https://t.co/8i3pDcyrcL |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:54:54 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/pmFGLA8qgu |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:55:01 |
What about pre-course reading? #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:55:17 |
@RobertTaylorELT @ChrisPatrickF remember the #ELTChat hashtag |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:55:58 |
@fionaljp The basics, Harmer, Scrivener, a Grammar book for Teachers, and one in phonology, I think. #ELTchat |
RobertTaylorELT |
2017-05-03T18:55:58 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat tagged at beg so no forget!Helpful to have e.g. of completed tasks (lesson vids, plan w tutor… https://t.co/lrfjKr8XS1 |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:56:08 |
@fionaljp The new cert Companion book will make good reading, both pre and during course#ELTchat |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T18:56:40 |
@fionaljp My teacher provided me a list of pre course reading: classics (thornbury, scrivener..) and grammar books #eltchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:57:39 |
@fionaljp I think I prefer getting trainees DOING something. I know I don't enjoy pre-reading...though optional go-… https://t.co/wJxGRWA54j |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:58:07 |
@angelos_bollas @fionaljp Sound Foundations? Agreed there only needs to a short reading list #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:58:28 |
@TeresaBestwick @fionaljp That's why a website works- little bites of info+video clips etc #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:58:42 |
RT @SueAnnan: @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp That's why a website works- little bites of info+video clips etc #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T18:58:58 |
@ChrisPatrickF @fionaljp Yes, Sound Foundations is a good one :) #eltchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T18:59:06 |
@TeresaBestwick Yes, and worry they start buying and very expensive! better to borrow dip into at centre #eltchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T18:59:10 |
@TeresaBestwick @fionaljp You could tailor tasks around some books? Or even articles? #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T18:59:18 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp Is your site access-only? If not, could you share the link please :) #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T18:59:23 |
Coming to the end, but we will be going into slowburn mode for 24 hours. Who would like to write a summary of this chat? #ELTchat |
RobertTaylorELT |
2017-05-03T18:59:33 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat Thank you |
DianaEOI |
2017-05-03T18:59:39 |
RT @SueAnnan: to make easier for trainees to cope with course #ELTchat https://t.co/TYNQo9kWav |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-03T19:00:06 |
Missed the live #ELTchat but will be around during 24hr slowburn. Excited to get caught up and engage. |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T19:00:18 |
@SueAnnan Great topic, but can't offer this week - currently owing one #eltchat and one #celtachat summary! |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T19:00:31 |
@TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan @fionaljp I would be very interested also :) #eltchat |
RobertTaylorELT |
2017-05-03T19:00:43 |
#ELTchat Would appreciate being sent examples of tagged #ELTchat tweets before the next #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T19:01:15 |
@tesolmatthew great. Will help crystallise your Celta experience #ELTchat #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T19:02:05 |
@RobertTaylorELT I will provide a transcript after the slowburn. It will be on here tomorrow evening. The summary will follow #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T19:02:47 |
@RobertTaylorELT And also on our Facebook page #ELTchat |
HeleneCombe |
2017-05-03T19:03:20 |
Thanks for this chat everyone!it was my first but I'll come back :) #eltchat |
ChrisPatrickF |
2017-05-03T19:03:23 |
#eltchat Thanks all! |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T19:03:39 |
@ChrisPatrickF @TeresaBestwick articles sound good #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T19:03:50 |
@HeleneCombe It was great to have you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T19:04:39 |
Thank you everyone for a most excellent chat. See you next week. Same place and time. #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-03T19:05:13 |
Thanks everyone - what a fabulous #eltchat :) xxx |
JGakonga |
2017-05-03T19:05:37 |
@SueAnnan Bye all #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2017-05-03T19:06:58 |
Thanks everyone. Don't forget that the slowburn is there if you want to continue adding facts. #ELTchat Handing over to @tesolmatthew now |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T19:07:15 |
RT @SueAnnan: Thanks everyone. Don't forget that the slowburn is there if you want to continue adding facts. #ELTchat Handing over to @teso… |
angelos_bollas |
2017-05-03T19:07:27 |
Have a great night people :) #eltchat |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T19:12:00 |
Oops forgot hashtag #eltchat https://t.co/7GRVwFh32k |
kiwiprofesor |
2017-05-03T19:33:19 |
Check out the Top ESL story: #ELTchat on Twitter: "#ELTchat today at 7 p.m. GMT… https://t.co/ke1XA7c1cM, see more https://t.co/Qw7xJxB0QR |
fionaljp |
2017-05-03T20:13:20 |
@SueAnnan @TeresaBestwick @seburnt @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe I go to different centres so can't generalise re pr… https://t.co/4kToaPmat2 |
stephenbeale |
2017-05-03T20:39:31 |
#ELTchat Looking to help people on their CELTA journey through writing articles. Any questions, tweet me! #celta… https://t.co/TxSmux2hja |
purlandtraining |
2017-05-03T20:43:25 |
RT @NikPeachey: 10 Tips for Making Self-Evaluations Meaningful https://t.co/HBqTyFueP7 #cpd #pln #elt #lamsig #tesol #edchat #eltchat https… |
ElleninEdmonton |
2017-05-03T21:32:12 |
@SueAnnan For me, the constant peer observation/feedback in CELTA was very draining. Rarely any feedback about what went well! #ELTchat |
MohamdShehata83 |
2017-05-04T00:53:01 |
Looking for IELTS material to help me with online course.Many free tests online but what abt copyright. Any idea? #eltchat #teachingenglish |
seburnt |
2017-05-04T01:32:07 |
Acronyms. Some metalang. Maybe approach names... all with brief examples or pointing to where to learn more. Useful… https://t.co/CMioDpvBpJ |
seburnt |
2017-05-04T01:35:23 |
@TeresaBestwick @fionaljp Lots of doing during course. Pre-reading (basics) can also have its place. #eltchat |
asiaEDchat |
2017-05-04T01:36:20 |
RT @mr5scott: The 10 skills you need to thrive in the Fourth Industrial Revolution https://t.co/d6RbOup8lu #edchat #eltchat #asiaED @asiaED… |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:46:18 |
@Marisa_C @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan I've done 2 TEFL cert courses- the CELTA & the SIT TESOL. I've never met anyone… https://t.co/wNjKIDJvEu |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:53:13 |
@angelos_bollas I think there's handfl of blogposts 2 direct them towards. Also did any1 mention IHDublins "CELTA D… https://t.co/s8RxcpeZrT |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:54:08 |
@TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Do you mean questions/tasks based on HTTE? #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:54:55 |
@angelos_bollas I've been meaning to incorporate Cambridge's Pre-Course Tasks into the course for ages...but...you know...life...#ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:55:31 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas jealous! and impressed. i really want to do more of that #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:57:35 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas so true, same in teaching. often think of @TeachingVillage's *RRR* concept to remind myse… https://t.co/pM5FoEEIKp |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:58:14 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas We do CM input on Day 1, but I sometimes wish to change it to that one #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T03:59:07 |
@TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C That's always in the back of my mind as well. Really need to keep these p… https://t.co/uCG9iNEKEp |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:00:22 |
@TeresaBestwick @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C you mean you don't have all kinds of extra time, energy, and re… https://t.co/v15J6I4UrD |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:01:25 |
@Gracielastwit If you haven't already, skip to the final "deck of cards" section. A big batch of excellently juicy… https://t.co/fzz0W7aO4z |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:02:35 |
@Marisa_C Oh man, this is such a thing. For too many trainees this just gets dragged out and never really sorted. P… https://t.co/PccggZw30I |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:02:58 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas we do the same #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:03:45 |
@seburnt We do the first one, neither of the other two. #ELTchat Would love to know more about what you envision for #3... |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:03:59 |
@ChrisPatrickF @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas sounds good #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:04:41 |
@ChrisPatrickF @seburnt oh yeah PREflection baby #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:05:25 |
@TeresaBestwick @seburnt it almost feels like popping a bubble too early, but actually yeah i think it'd be good #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:09:42 |
@Liam_ELT #ELTchat right..something w/ soul and even humor. This book takes this approach... https://t.co/rQnWEmzB5A |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:10:52 |
@angelos_bollas @seburnt @HeleneCombe @SueAnnan me neither #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:12:01 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp @angelos_bollas @HeleneCombe @JGakonga I'm kinda in awe of Jo's videos. The lucidity she imbues… https://t.co/QKXm4BoAVT |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:13:38 |
Looks great https://t.co/hGCquajwFC #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:14:01 |
@fionaljp I've suggested that a few times #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:17:12 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @fionaljp That's a big job to read for an inexperienced candidate #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:18:55 |
@Futurealisreal @Marisa_C @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan I write a very cursory post about it 3 years ago #ELTchat https://t.co/SjERHbghdF |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:19:55 |
@seburnt Right - more access to the "products" of the course, not just descriptions of what they'll do #ELTchat |
tesolmatthew |
2017-05-04T04:21:20 |
@ChrisPatrickF @angelos_bollas @fionaljp that said- it's good one, surely. I recommend Folse's Teaching Grammar boo… https://t.co/xijdwrNpb6 |
TeresaBestwick |
2017-05-04T06:17:39 |
@tesolmatthew @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Yeah, there are task files at the back which look at a lot of the basics. I… https://t.co/VGOynmeYpJ |
Marisa_C |
2017-05-04T10:09:10 |
Can you truly be an expert on the CELTA if you have just attended a course? #eltchat - #celtachat - I find this somewhat arrogant |
Liam_ELT |
2017-05-04T10:41:36 |
@fionaljp Very hard for someone with 0 experience to get much out of reading about it.. they've a limited frame of… https://t.co/OBRUVRHkgQ |
ELTchat |
2017-05-04T11:23:18 |
Our #ELTchat has again been nominated - https://t.co/w41VYPJPPE |
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