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| ELTchat |
2017-03-08T16:23:25 |
Reading skills for Advanced & Very Advanced Learners - our topic for #ELTchat today - read all about it here https://t.co/i5zat2A7nD |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:06:28 |
@TeresaBestwick Great. I thought I'd be talking to myself tonight :-) #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:10:55 |
Do either of you have any advanced groups this year? I've got B2.2 #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:11:08 |
I had a proficiency student last week- her reading skills were as good as mine ! #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:11:11 |
We're talking advanced reading sub-skills, right? #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:12:10 |
@TeresaBestwick only teachers this year! #eltchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:13:34 |
@SueAnnan Oh wow! Do you still feel you need to "teach" her skills? #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:14:34 |
@TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan which skills would you expect an advanced learner to need? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:14:59 |
@TeresaBestwick No. She needed to speak, as her own students were only B1 and she wanted to hone her skills #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:15:56 |
@angelos_bollas I'm not sure they have problems skimming and scanning TBH. It is usually a question of vocab if they have a problem #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:16:08 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Exactly! I guess it might depend as well if it's an exam candidate #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:17:14 |
advanced learners need to understand lexis in text and be able to work around unfamiliar idioms and colloquialisms #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:17:30 |
@SueAnnan I don't think skimming/scanning are for advanced Ls either. What about inference of meaning through co-text? #eltchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:17:46 |
RT @SueAnnan: advanced learners need to understand lexis in text and be able to work around unfamiliar idioms and colloquialisms #ELTchat |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T19:18:05 |
@TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan I think at that point I'd focus on using reading to build other skills li… https://t.co/pW5Nx8vtN4 |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:18:52 |
@SueAnnan I think there are more subskills e.g. Using reference skills (eg index) #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:19:26 |
@TatyGoRaELT @TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan agree! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:19:35 |
@TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas True. Exam students need exam technique training as much as anything #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:20:47 |
@angelos_bollas They don't really get to advanced level without them though #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:21:39 |
@SueAnnan that's absolutely correct! #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:21:57 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas Have you ever come across a learner who had C1/C2 speaking/listening skills but very weak reading skills? #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2017-03-08T19:22:38 |
@TeresaBestwick @SueAnnan only in esol contexts #eltchat still very rare! |
| fionaljp |
2017-03-08T19:22:58 |
Hi #ELTchat what about encouraging extensive reading ? |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:23:43 |
@TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas No I haven't. Sometimes they have weak listnng skills, because they are too busy with other things #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:23:47 |
@fionaljp So many free resources available now - blogs, e-books, etc #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:25:19 |
@TeresaBestwick @fionaljp Most advanced readers access stuff like that without being prompted. All have EL books to read on arrival #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-03-08T19:26:10 |
@TeresaBestwick yes, authetic reading. This is good as you can access free chapters for discussion #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:26:37 |
@Abdoelmousa @TatyGoRaELT @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas Thank you. PLease remember to use the hashtag #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-03-08T19:27:03 |
@TeresaBestwick https://t.co/JjcIfue9LQ oops forgot link #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:27:26 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/NujTpPaUbW |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:27:33 |
@Abdoelmousa Don't forget the hashtag #ELTchat :) |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T19:28:30 |
@Abdoelmousa @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan you can use reading to prompt topics, model language, extract vocabulary. #eltchat |
| SeriousTeachers |
2017-03-08T19:28:39 |
New teaching job! #china #english #science #teachers #edchat #edtech #edtechchat #teaching #jobs #eltchat #ELT… https://t.co/MaHuRpczvx |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:28:43 |
@fionaljp Oooh, at a quick glance looks great! #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:29:03 |
RT @Marisa_C: Suggest topics for future #ELTchat - not just tomorrow - complete this quick form pls and RT it to your friendshttps://t.c… |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T19:29:17 |
@Abdoelmousa @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan with this information they can model the language to write. It helps a lot. #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:29:51 |
@Abdoelmousa You could start with a reading task and use it as a model text to help learners with structure #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-03-08T19:29:56 |
@TeresaBestwick have used with C2 #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:31:33 |
At advanced level they are used to using authentic material #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-03-08T19:31:50 |
What about creating a book club? #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:32:05 |
Sorry for being late to join in! Will do my best to play catchy uppy :-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:32:53 |
@esolcourses_sue Great to have you with us #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:33:13 |
RT @fionaljp: What about creating a book club? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:33:25 |
@fionaljp Nice idea but my students don't stay long enough to make one viable #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:33:50 |
@SueAnnan Cheers, Sue! Glad I could make it :-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:34:28 |
@esolcourses_sue does your website provide reading for very high levels, Sue? #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:35:20 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp An online book club might work...? Students who had left could continue to joinin if they wanted to #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-03-08T19:35:42 |
May have to say bye as wifi issues... #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:36:15 |
@esolcourses_sue @fionaljp That would be a better bet #ELTchat I'd like to trial something like that |
| Abdoelmousa |
2017-03-08T19:37:28 |
#ELTchat I do believe reading skills you got from your L1 have a great effect on your competence when reading in L2, isn't it? |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:37:40 |
@SueAnnan Yes. There's collection of graded texts & articles here... more in the pipeline: https://t.co/spP84zU59l #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2017-03-08T19:38:33 |
@esolcourses_sue @SueAnnan nice idea! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:38:48 |
@Abdoelmousa Yes. If you like reading, the second language isn't a big drawback #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:39:01 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp Same here. You could do it with a Facebook group, perhaps? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:39:59 |
@esolcourses_sue @fionaljp That would be easy #ELTchat |
| ProjectIndus |
2017-03-08T19:40:13 |
Looking for teachers for a free intercultural project sharing pilot! Teach English by connecting globally!… https://t.co/vp8pmCOe2a |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:41:42 |
it isn't easy to challenge Advanced readers. What do you use? #ELTchat |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T19:41:51 |
@esolcourses_sue @SueAnnan @fionaljp I agree a FB group could def work and goes beyond the classroom. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:43:05 |
@TatyGoRaELT @esolcourses_sue @fionaljp which is what we want- to take it outside the constraints of the classroom. #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:43:07 |
RT @SueAnnan: it isn't easy to challenge Advanced readers. What do you use? #ELTchat |
| Abdoelmousa |
2017-03-08T19:43:17 |
#ELTchat moreover, reading practice in mother tongue may develope the cognitice skill of prediction which can be used in L2 |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:44:21 |
We analysed a story in three different newspapers to look at political bias #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:45:48 |
@SueAnnan @MBenevides gave a good talk on this at IATEFL #ELTchat https://t.co/AhudBljmPV |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:46:03 |
RT @SueAnnan: @TatyGoRaELT @esolcourses_sue @fionaljp which is what we want- to take it outside the constraints of the classroom. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:46:24 |
@esolcourses_sue @MBenevidesThanks. I'll read that when we stop #ELTchat |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T19:46:38 |
@SueAnnan why don't you try https://t.co/PVM2HJwlr7 it let's you change difficulty level. Not sure how high it goes. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:48:59 |
@TatyGoRaELT I have no difficulty in my context getting EL newspapers, so no need for websites, unless supplementary material #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:50:30 |
@TatyGoRaELT Thank you for the link #ELTchat |
| Stacy76657888 |
2017-03-08T19:52:17 |
#eltchat yes I agree with you Abdullah to some extent |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:52:45 |
@SueAnnan @TatyGoRaELT IMO, if you want to motivate learners to read outside class, there needs to be an element of choice... #ELTChat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:54:00 |
@SueAnnan @TatyGoRaELT ... otherwise it may feel like homework, rather than reading for pleasure #ELTchat |
| Stacy76657888 |
2017-03-08T19:54:24 |
#eltchat for instance how can reader make use of the prediction skill when the difference between langs is huge |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T19:54:43 |
@esolcourses_sue @SueAnnan so true! They have to find it interesting to become engaged. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:54:51 |
@esolcourses_sue @TatyGoRaELT We have a graded readers library and a good selection of genres. Also book cast offs from Ts #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:55:07 |
@TatyGoRaELT @SueAnnan Thanks, I'm not familiar with that site. Will check it out later #Eltchat |
| kiwiprofesor |
2017-03-08T19:55:53 |
Check out the Top ESL story: » Topic for #ELTchat on March 8, 2017 – Reading Sk… https://t.co/SQWY3yQnb2, see more https://t.co/Qw7xJxB0QR |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T19:58:09 |
A colleague recommended https://t.co/7aRFCDx50K - lots of free magazine resources. Not used it personally but looks good #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:58:17 |
@TatyGoRaELT adults or kids ? #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:58:19 |
@SueAnnan @TatyGoRaELT I meant for an online reading group, i.e. direct s's to suitable sites to choose texts, & then discuss #ELTchat |
| Abdoelmousa |
2017-03-08T19:58:23 |
#ELTchat cognitive skill of prediction is always the same on all language, Stacy. So all I need when reading in L2 is to put |
| Abdoelmousa |
2017-03-08T19:58:41 |
#ELTchat is to put it into practice |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T19:58:52 |
RT @TatyGoRaELT: @esolcourses_sue @SueAnnan so true! They have to find it interesting to become engaged. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T19:59:28 |
@esolcourses_sue @TatyGoRaELT Ah okaysilly me #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T20:00:09 |
And also this one with audiobooks https://t.co/ONhuZjwUUv #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T20:01:04 |
This #ELTchat is now moving over to slow burn for the next 24 hours.Thank you for being with us this evening and hope to see you next week. |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T20:02:25 |
@TeresaBestwick It's very good but hard to unsubscribe from. They send emails every 5 mins#ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T20:03:15 |
@tesolmatthew It's all yours now.Have funslow burn#ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2017-03-08T20:03:38 |
@SueAnnan Oh dear :( And I hate asking learners to sign up to things! WIll doublecheck before suggesting links! #ELTchat |
| esolcourses_sue |
2017-03-08T20:03:45 |
@SueAnnan @TatyGoRaELT No worries! So many snippets of conversations going on at once, it isn't always easy to follow :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2017-03-08T20:04:24 |
Goodnight everyone. Looking forward to next week. Please add your ideas for future chats to the google doc on our FB page #ELTchat |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T20:04:47 |
@TeresaBestwick @issuu another good option is to have them download Flipboard. They can choose topics to follow. It motivates them #ELTchat |
| TatyGoRaELT |
2017-03-08T20:07:30 |
@TeresaBestwick @issuu with Flipboard they can sign up wt a social network and it's easy to use and visually engaging. #ELTchat |
| edtechmethods |
2017-03-08T21:26:47 |
RT @ShellTerrell: Teaching Students to Avoid Plagiarism https://t.co/fNHsAENdri #edchat #engchat #diglit #eltchat #eap |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T01:34:24 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan try 2do more than just gist and "detail" etc on CELTAs now days but u can only do so much in short course #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T01:35:05 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas #ELTchat I'm pretty sure this is what the research shows, no? #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T01:38:49 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat sometimes students just embarrass me, show me up with their big bright IQs...& in a 2nd lang! Do… https://t.co/Ri3SuYx2uH |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T01:40:04 |
@TatyGoRaELT @Abdoelmousa @TeresaBestwick @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan reading can/should be *everywhere* #ELTchat 'on the way' to everything |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T01:51:23 |
@esolcourses_sue @SueAnnan @TatyGoRaELT #ELTchat @seburnt's ARC approach - seems great for more advanced readers surely! (But not only) |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T01:52:20 |
:) Today's #ELTchat is on reading w/ higher levels. Are they? Any special considerations? https://t.co/jhSMKl27OX |
| ElleninEdmonton |
2017-03-09T01:54:32 |
@tesolmatthew No, they're LINC4, high beginners. But their lack of reading experience was holding back all their skills. #ELTChat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T01:57:09 |
@ElleninEdmonton how would you describe the interface/influence? #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2017-03-09T02:02:08 |
#ELTchat I suppose no matter what the level, all these layers (maybe sentence more to discourse systems) come throu… https://t.co/3fBdeTr5Gm |
| jorgeguillen |
2017-03-09T22:43:01 |
Couldn't agree more #ELTchat https://t.co/rCzxISTa3n |
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