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Making the most of exercises

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SueAnnan 2016-11-30T18:42:00 Join us for #ELTChat in 20 minsWe'll be discussing: How to make the most of materials in class and how to maximise the  use of exercises
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:02:51 Hi there!#ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:03:18 Hello GlenysGood to see you #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:03:43 who is around for tonight's #ELtchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:04:06 Hi Sue. Who else is here?#ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:04:28 @SueAnnan Hello Sue and @GlenysHanson #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:04:45 Hi Fi #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:04:57 Nice to see you Fiona. #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:05:16 Hi everyone #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:05:16 @GlenysHanson You too #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:05:41 @SueAnnan Hi :-) #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:05:57 #ELTchat Hi everyone!
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:06:06 Tonight we're discussing why teachers rush through exercises and say'all done' and how to get more out of them. Very Demand HIgh #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:06:28 @GioLic1976 Hi Giovanni #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:07:28 @SueAnnan Maybe under pressure to follow /get through syllabus? #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:07:59 @SueAnnan @bellinguist Thanks #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:08:01 @fionaljp Yes. But how can we get more out of them? #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:09:01 Who says Ts rush through exercises? #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:09:10 Do you mean langauge focus exercises only? How we exploit them fir grammar? #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:09:26 @SueAnnan Planning? Selecting, adapting? Maybe those that rush through aren’t doing that? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:09:42 @GlenysHanson I think some do. Or they do the exercises but nothing more #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:10:17 @bellinguist grammar, or anything else that would come out of them #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:11:21 Take a typical exercise and open -end it. that way the sts can complete it in a realistic way #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:11:34 Can we encourage the learners to do more "noticing" as part of learner training? #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:11:48 @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Exactly #ELTchat Anyone can do that. Teaching is about exploiting the material.
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:12:01 @bellinguist great idea. How would you go about it ? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:13:23 @fionaljp @GlenysHanson How do you exploit the material? #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:13:29 @bellinguist I too want to know what sort of exercises? Chosen by whom? For what purposes? #ELTchat I only used my own exercises.
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:14:22 @GlenysHanson @bellinguist Lucky you. I sometimes have to get mileage out of coursebook exercises.  #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:14:37 Ask the sts to open-end the exercise for other sts in the class #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:14:51 @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Looking at the topic and thinking how to engage the learners first of all #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:15:02 @GioLic1976 Good idea. #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:15:26 @SueAnnan Adapt typical text book presentations as presented in coursebooks, in relation to learner needs #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:15:45 @SueAnnan @fionaljp I didn't exploit "material". I tried to respond to Ss needs. Different kinds of exercises seemed appropriate. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:15:45 @fionaljp @GlenysHanson Yes that is always a good place to start. And not always easy! #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:16:57 @fionaljp @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Couldn't agree more. Looking at the content of the exercise firstly. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:17:37 @GlenysHanson @SueAnnan Well, yes, I did mean exploiting the material to engage the learners #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:17:43 Ask them to underline prepositions and what words go before them #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:17:56 @GlenysHanson  Diff  material might mean a lot of work. If you wanted to max the value of just one exercise how would you do it #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:18:32 RT @bellinguist: Ask them to underline prepositions and what words go before them #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:19:08 @bellinguist that would work with my German students :-) #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:19:18 Make "passive" reading into something "active". With listening they could notice how pronunciation changes for prepositions. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:19:56 Ensuring a learner-focused approach and maximising student interaction #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:20:14 @bellinguist or hear how we shorten modal verbs, #eltchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:20:20 @bellinguist Great idea. A google search on Concordances is a great start, in fact to follow up any task. #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:21:00 @SueAnnan @bellinguist  I hated having to focus on materials  (TOEFL)  not the Ss. Yes I was lucky not to have to do it very often. #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:21:13 Once "trained", underlining all the weak forms in a transcript.  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:22:19 @GlenysHanson I agree, but there are times when needs must. Today we were looking at past modals, so I didn't use the book-boring.#ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:23:23 @SueAnnan Make sure it was a response to a problem Ss were having there & then. Not just because it was in the coursebook. #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:23:41 #ELTchat write exercises/questions for other sts during reading/list tasks: double whammy for the teacher & the sts
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:24:26 May I just throw something out there? How would you exploit this reading focus from English File Int?  #ELTchat https://t.co/uQebJcdfd8
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:24:49 @GlenysHanson I do tend to respond to immediate things, but some sts like the grammar in the book!! #ELTchat I try to give them value too
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:25:54 @GioLic1976 You mean other than the coursebook or as extension for early finishers? #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:26:39 @SueAnnan I didn't respond to what Ss "liked" but to what they needed IMO to progress. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:26:43 @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Difficult to say as would depend on exercise #ELTchat I love getting ideas on how to be creative with material
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:27:06 Exercise d seems to fit with the "noticing" concept #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:27:33 @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson #ELTchat great point re:sts&grammar. get sts to design grammar follow-up tasks?
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:27:59 @bellinguist read it first, with sts following for pron. ask gist qs, let them read with different voices in pairs, #ELTchat Mine text
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:28:59 With reading, we could really get them to read for detail rather than the typical scan exercises. Use higher order processing #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:29:45 @GioLic1976 @SueAnnan Getting Ss to make exercises of their own is far more effecient that imposed exercises. They like it too. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:30:21 @bellinguist Great! How about personalisation - tell students about your experience of family holidays? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:30:33 also allowing sts to own the language they produce- so it serves a real purpose #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:30:52 @SueAnnan  I remember reading aloud a text many moons ago and turned it into a listening. The students loved it! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:31:30 @bellinguist Yes. But it can also become a role play afterwards #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:32:49 @bellinguist #ELTchat with reading/listening you can follow up virtually any task with learner-produced exercises
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:34:37 Taking new vocab and playing with it is fun too. Make a story using 5 of the words etc #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:35:49 or use the letters of the words to find new ones #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:36:41 @bellinguist Personalisation to provide model for pre-reading task, I mean #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:37:19 apologies if internet is slow. A ship dragging its anchor sliced through our cables, so we are reduced power #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:38:19 @SueAnnan #ELTchat That's a great one! New vocab to tell a story related to their life experience? One item=one anecdote
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:38:58 Using short clips of video on related topic to activate interest #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:39:32 #ELTchat I guided students to materials (books, articles, videos) to work on outside of class. CB type exercises too. In class Ss spoke.
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:40:01 @GlenysHanson I much prefer your way of working :-) #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:41:15 ask sts for alternatives to topic vocab- phrasal verbs- synonyms etc #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:41:18 We should also note that many teachers' books have useful suggestions/tips for teachers #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:41:26 @fionaljp @bellinguist  start without context for Re7Li to get the sts to build context with audio/visual tools. #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:42:03 @SueAnnan #ELTchat I realise many Ts don't have the freedom I had, but some don't even realise it could exist... and it's efficient.
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:43:04 @GlenysHanson Yes. I try the blended type approach with some classes aqnd when I'm T training, but this group are very trad. #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:43:36 @bellinguist #ELTchat.Exactly. So they engaging with the text twice: making qs and asking qs
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:43:53 @GioLic1976 @fionaljp @bellinguist What's Re7Li ? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:44:33 @GlenysHanson LOL wasn't going to ask. THought it a typo #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:45:53 To make reading tasks more kinaesthetic, they read different sections of the text displayed around classroom and order #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:46:22 @bellinguist or make it a running dictation? #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:47:05 @GlenysHanson @SueAnnan .- LOL Readind/Listening #ELTchat. Sorry, am typing from phone.
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:47:57 @GioLic1976 @GlenysHanson LOL.Now we know :-) #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:48:03 @SueAnnan #ELTchat Nearly all my Ss started off "very trad". A lot of them changed to "I like being treated as a responsible adult."
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:49:01 @GlenysHanson unfortunately I have very short term sts. It's hard to change viewpoint in a fortnight #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:49:17 Reading quickly/ scanning - they work in teams and write answers on board to encourage them to read quickly and it's competitive #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:49:33 #ELTchat How about getting learners to summarise as post-reading task?
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:49:35 @SueAnnan @bellinguist #ELTchat or select a text for the class to work on. you give them options, they choose
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:49:46 @GioLic1976 @SueAnnan Thanks Giovanni for helping out an old lady. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:50:36 @GlenysHanson @GioLic1976 You're only as old as you feel Glenys . I think you are still a young'un #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:51:41 @bellinguist Or have a backchannel - Padlet or TodaysMeet #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:52:24 To check comprehension give them the text again with ten mistakes. They correct in teams.  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:53:04 or chop the text up as a jigsaw and get sts to reassemble #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:53:11 @SueAnnan Indeed! Haven't done one for ages! #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:53:49 @bellinguist #ELTchat love this one for juniors. if you have a classroom and a computer lab you can prepare qs online so sts run back &forth
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:54:27 @GlenysHanson there is hope then :-) #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:55:16 You could get learners to write the questions - give them the answers #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T19:55:26 @fionaljp Spoken or written summary? If it's spoken they have to include three incorrect facts so there is purpose for listening #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:55:38 @fionaljp Yes that's always popular #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:55:57 @fionaljp #ELTchat. Brilliant. Sts can also summarize and adopt different viewpoints on the text and then compare. Great follow-up
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T19:57:29 @SueAnnan Thanks Sue. Just don't know texting conventions like younger people. As for sexting I don't think I want to.  @GioLic1976 #ELTchat
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T19:57:40 @SueAnnan #ELTchat good ol'chopping! Thanks for reminding us of this one!
fionaljp 2016-11-30T19:57:56 @SueAnnan Oh, :-( I thought I’d had an original idea! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:58:11 We're coming to the end of the hour. Thanks for the engaging convo. Remember the slow burn for 24 hrs if you have things to add. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T19:58:39 @fionaljp I've done it in the past, but had forgotten it :-) Sorry #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T20:00:18 Thanks everyone. Wishing you all a great week until we meet again. I'm off to sort out the tweet collector now #ELTchat
bellinguist 2016-11-30T20:00:32 How do people adapt controlled practice to vary it and make it more dynamci? #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T20:00:45 @bellinguist @fionaljp Can somebody do #ELTchat summary that way?
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T20:01:50 @GlenysHanson @bellinguist @fionaljp Why not? We have a summarist ( is that a word?) this week who has already volunteered. #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-11-30T20:04:25 #ELTchat See you all next week.
GioLic1976 2016-11-30T20:04:46 #ELTchat Hope to see y'all next week. Thanks, everybody!
SueAnnan 2016-11-30T20:04:47 In slow burn mode now #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-11-30T20:04:59 @bellinguist #ELTchat Was thinking written - saw a nice activity -https://t.co/EslgrAun95
fionaljp 2016-11-30T20:05:40 Nice to #ELTchat Bye
Marisa_C 2016-11-30T20:25:49 nice idea #ELTchat https://t.co/gmuT1tmlxa
tesolmatthew 2016-11-30T20:22:38 RT @SueAnnan: In slow burn mode now #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-11-30T20:21:51 @bellinguist Love the Bryson book bt can't see how Ss interested unless u created sth of a puzzle/mystery out of pre-reading #eltchat
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tesolmatthew 2016-11-30T20:22:38 RT @SueAnnan: In slow burn mode now #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-11-30T20:25:49 nice idea #ELTchat https://t.co/gmuT1tmlxa
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T01:32:36 Hear ye hear ye #ELTchat slowburners, a slice of 2day's fair chat. What does "open-ending" material mean2YOU? How t… https://t.co/JQhBZ7eo3m
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T05:59:18 #ELTchat Hi everyone, missed the live chat. Here for slowburn. @tesolmatthew Thank you. I've the same questions. https://t.co/tnxf1sMgfx
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:07:29 @sadeqaghazal Hi! So, if you use coursebook + workbook exercises in classes, you might have students for example fill in blanks 1/2 #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:09:07 @sadeqaghazal 2/2 but then what? check answers & move on? Or instead USE the material in some other way? The chat was full of ideas #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:16:17 @jimscriv uses term '3xPractice'=doing more than just writing-in As & moving on 2next. Here's T's example:… https://t.co/NSWW7pJrnf
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:18:42 #ELTchat's topic is "Making the most of exercises". @jimscriv coined '3xP' for how Ts can & do maximize value of ex… https://t.co/rKeN2LwtZl
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:19:34 The previous screen shot of '3xP' comes from: https://t.co/1aNLfydsuA @jimscriv @sadeqaghazal #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:24:43 1 v. simple thing I do #ELTchat: scaffold pair ans checks 4 speaki/pron practice eg /wətdɪdju ɡetfər ˈnʌmbər̩ tu/ 'found time' for pron prac
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:27:33 Let's try this #ELTchat slowburn. I'm gonna post a few standard exercises, & we all come up with extensions/open-enders/etc. for them...
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T06:32:09 @tesolmatthew Instead of checking myself I ask Ss to do peer correction first and then we discuss each answer in class. If Ss 1/2 #ELTchat
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T06:34:37 @tesolmatthew 2/2 have not grasped some concepts we go over them together but using a diff task.  #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:36:48 @sadeqaghazal #ELTchat nice! see my post just now abt same? like2 'taskify' pairchecking give them good 'checking lang', not auto/default :)
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T06:38:13 @tesolmatthew  Thanks for sharing this. Was not aware of this term though I usually go for 3 practices. #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:40:02 OK #ELTchat: How could we *maximize* lang work/skills/personalization/fun/(inter)activeness with JUST this 2-part W… https://t.co/VgrgLAYt4e
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:44:37 w/ Ex1 Ss could do, check, then prep and 'quiz' each others' memory: A says line on left, B has to say match w/out looking #ELTchat
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T06:45:33 @tesolmatthew Ask Ss to write a story/ anecdote in which they have to use the adj in foucs here. Topics/ themes are their choice. #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:46:50 In pairs, Ss could find and mark ALL THE /z/ sounds in the exercise. T could tell them how many they're looking for. GO! #ELTchat then drill
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:47:59 @sadeqaghazal you're lucky! either i wasn't paying attention or nobody really laid that out clearly for me early on. :) #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:51:17 Nice one @sadeqaghazal! #ELTchat :) howabout categorizing the adjectives there according to syllable stress patterns? Oo / oO/ Ooo / oOo etc
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:52:30 oh @sadeqaghazal THAT'S NOT FAIR ;) #ELTchat
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T06:53:00 @tesolmatthew Nice idea. Also adj can be categorized acc to -ve/+ve connotations. Useful for NNS Ss. #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:54:38 Nice. Upgrade that &*$&% proper like! ...and let us not forget the #ELTchat hashtag ;) https://t.co/zVd6aZ1BOd
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T06:55:17 Warning: @sadeqaghazal IS ON FIRE #ELTchat
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T06:56:15 @tesolmatthew SLOWBURN! :) :) #ELTchat
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T06:57:56 @getgreatenglish Clever! I was thinking along similar lines. Allows students to see/use the words in context.  #ELTchat
getgreatenglish 2016-12-01T07:00:16 @sadeqaghazal @tesolmatthew Why use a page when you can use half the page instead? #lessismore #ELTchat
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T07:01:47 #ELTchat How do you manage time with all extensions? In contexts where everyone is mostly concerned abt 'covering' the syllabus for exams.
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T07:02:51 @getgreatenglish @tesolmatthew #ELTchat Right :) A situation where 'lemon squeezing' is good.
AnnieAlta2012 2016-12-01T07:22:54 RT @tesolmatthew: OK #ELTchat: How could we *maximize* lang work/skills/personalization/fun/(inter)activeness with JUST this 2-part WB exer…
eteacherjon 2016-12-01T10:03:35 Correction challenge: Can you correct the mistakes in all these Present Perfect sentences? #learnenglish… https://t.co/6Ta0JwU961
Liam_ELT 2016-12-01T11:38:39 #eltchat #slowburn You could get Ss to make their own part Bs and then others have to guess the adjective.
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T18:00:34 extensions for extensions' sake aren't on @sadeqaghazal #ELTchat 'covering' syllabus for exams seems askew if exams assess *learning*
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T18:33:35 Final burst for #ELTchat slowburn!! 'Making the most of exercises' What to do exploit this exercise for more learni… https://t.co/0SNrZ9cDJj
Marisa_C 2016-12-01T18:42:19 With these 'contrastive' exs I assign 1 line to each membr of a pair - they improvise a dialog - rest of Ss guess w… https://t.co/moo7Wbwsw2
Marisa_C 2016-12-01T18:43:50 This one has so much potential for meddling with (in a good way_ we should start a google doc for ideas #eltchat https://t.co/AVl0lYVlhz
spsmith45 2016-12-01T18:47:51 RT @Marisa_C: This one has so much potential for meddling with (in a good way_ we should start a google doc for ideas #eltchat https://t.co…
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T18:48:12 @tesolmatthew This is for those who get this point. But there are those admins who still want Ts to 'cover' the syllabus. 1/2 #ELTchat
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T18:49:13 @tesolmatthew 2/2 What could be some of the ways to make more time for useful extensions while dealing with this aspect? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-12-01T18:56:03 @SueAnnan can we collect the #slowburn #ELTchat transcript as well pls?
sadeqaghazal 2016-12-01T18:57:52 @tesolmatthew I negotiated some lessons/HW with my Ss. e.g. They'd complete an exercise on their own to save time for roleplay. #ELTchat
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T19:08:25 Done #ELTchat Google doc is here: https://t.co/GtVROqmPhC https://t.co/TsF1jiqJVB
kamilaofprague 2016-12-01T19:13:08 RT @tesolmatthew: Done #ELTchat Google doc is here: https://t.co/GtVROqmPhC https://t.co/TsF1jiqJVB
tesolmatthew 2016-12-01T19:37:46 Oops! Fixed the link, use this one so that you can ACTUALLY USE the doc! :D https://t.co/GtVROqmPhC #ELTchat… https://t.co/AgF4DqY4VE
Marisa_C 2016-12-01T20:40:48 Add your ideas to actitivities suggested by @tesolmatthew They are fairly typical so a typology of ideas would be u… https://t.co/K7bg9DhyYS
BettySavopoulou 2016-12-01T20:56:41 RT @tesolmatthew: #ELTchat's topic is "Making the most of exercises". @jimscriv coined '3xP' for how Ts can & do maximize value of exercise…


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