| User Name |
Universal Time Stamp |
Text |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T18:42:00 |
Join us for #ELTChat in 20 minsWe'll be discussing: How to make the most of materials in class and how to maximise the use of exercises |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:02:51 |
Hi there!#ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:03:18 |
Hello GlenysGood to see you #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:03:43 |
who is around for tonight's #ELtchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:04:06 |
Hi Sue. Who else is here?#ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:04:28 |
@SueAnnan Hello Sue and @GlenysHanson #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:04:45 |
Hi Fi #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:04:57 |
Nice to see you Fiona. #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:05:16 |
Hi everyone #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:05:16 |
@GlenysHanson You too #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:05:41 |
@SueAnnan Hi :-) #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:05:57 |
#ELTchat Hi everyone! |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:06:06 |
Tonight we're discussing why teachers rush through exercises and say'all done' and how to get more out of them. Very Demand HIgh #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:06:28 |
@GioLic1976 Hi Giovanni #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:07:28 |
@SueAnnan Maybe under pressure to follow /get through syllabus? #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:07:59 |
@SueAnnan @bellinguist Thanks #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:08:01 |
@fionaljp Yes. But how can we get more out of them? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:09:01 |
Who says Ts rush through exercises? #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:09:10 |
Do you mean langauge focus exercises only? How we exploit them fir grammar? #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:09:26 |
@SueAnnan Planning? Selecting, adapting? Maybe those that rush through aren’t doing that? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:09:42 |
@GlenysHanson I think some do. Or they do the exercises but nothing more #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:10:17 |
@bellinguist grammar, or anything else that would come out of them #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:11:21 |
Take a typical exercise and open -end it. that way the sts can complete it in a realistic way #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:11:34 |
Can we encourage the learners to do more "noticing" as part of learner training? #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:11:48 |
@SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Exactly #ELTchat Anyone can do that. Teaching is about exploiting the material. |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:12:01 |
@bellinguist great idea. How would you go about it ? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:13:23 |
@fionaljp @GlenysHanson How do you exploit the material? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:13:29 |
@bellinguist I too want to know what sort of exercises? Chosen by whom? For what purposes? #ELTchat I only used my own exercises. |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:14:22 |
@GlenysHanson @bellinguist Lucky you. I sometimes have to get mileage out of coursebook exercises. #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:14:37 |
Ask the sts to open-end the exercise for other sts in the class #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:14:51 |
@SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Looking at the topic and thinking how to engage the learners first of all #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:15:02 |
@GioLic1976 Good idea. #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:15:26 |
@SueAnnan Adapt typical text book presentations as presented in coursebooks, in relation to learner needs #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:15:45 |
@SueAnnan @fionaljp I didn't exploit "material". I tried to respond to Ss needs. Different kinds of exercises seemed appropriate. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:15:45 |
@fionaljp @GlenysHanson Yes that is always a good place to start. And not always easy! #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:16:57 |
@fionaljp @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Couldn't agree more. Looking at the content of the exercise firstly. #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:17:37 |
@GlenysHanson @SueAnnan Well, yes, I did mean exploiting the material to engage the learners #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:17:43 |
Ask them to underline prepositions and what words go before them #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:17:56 |
@GlenysHanson Diff material might mean a lot of work. If you wanted to max the value of just one exercise how would you do it #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:18:32 |
RT @bellinguist: Ask them to underline prepositions and what words go before them #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:19:08 |
@bellinguist that would work with my German students :-) #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:19:18 |
Make "passive" reading into something "active". With listening they could notice how pronunciation changes for prepositions. #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:19:56 |
Ensuring a learner-focused approach and maximising student interaction #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:20:14 |
@bellinguist or hear how we shorten modal verbs, #eltchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:20:20 |
@bellinguist Great idea. A google search on Concordances is a great start, in fact to follow up any task. #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:21:00 |
@SueAnnan @bellinguist I hated having to focus on materials (TOEFL) not the Ss. Yes I was lucky not to have to do it very often. #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:21:13 |
Once "trained", underlining all the weak forms in a transcript. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:22:19 |
@GlenysHanson I agree, but there are times when needs must. Today we were looking at past modals, so I didn't use the book-boring.#ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:23:23 |
@SueAnnan Make sure it was a response to a problem Ss were having there & then. Not just because it was in the coursebook. #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:23:41 |
#ELTchat write exercises/questions for other sts during reading/list tasks: double whammy for the teacher & the sts |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:24:26 |
May I just throw something out there? How would you exploit this reading focus from English File Int? #ELTchat https://t.co/uQebJcdfd8 |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:24:49 |
@GlenysHanson I do tend to respond to immediate things, but some sts like the grammar in the book!! #ELTchat I try to give them value too |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:25:54 |
@GioLic1976 You mean other than the coursebook or as extension for early finishers? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:26:39 |
@SueAnnan I didn't respond to what Ss "liked" but to what they needed IMO to progress. #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:26:43 |
@SueAnnan @GlenysHanson Difficult to say as would depend on exercise #ELTchat I love getting ideas on how to be creative with material |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:27:06 |
Exercise d seems to fit with the "noticing" concept #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:27:33 |
@SueAnnan @GlenysHanson #ELTchat great point re:sts&grammar. get sts to design grammar follow-up tasks? |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:27:59 |
@bellinguist read it first, with sts following for pron. ask gist qs, let them read with different voices in pairs, #ELTchat Mine text |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:28:59 |
With reading, we could really get them to read for detail rather than the typical scan exercises. Use higher order processing #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:29:45 |
@GioLic1976 @SueAnnan Getting Ss to make exercises of their own is far more effecient that imposed exercises. They like it too. #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:30:21 |
@bellinguist Great! How about personalisation - tell students about your experience of family holidays? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:30:33 |
also allowing sts to own the language they produce- so it serves a real purpose #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:30:52 |
@SueAnnan I remember reading aloud a text many moons ago and turned it into a listening. The students loved it! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:31:30 |
@bellinguist Yes. But it can also become a role play afterwards #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:32:49 |
@bellinguist #ELTchat with reading/listening you can follow up virtually any task with learner-produced exercises |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:34:37 |
Taking new vocab and playing with it is fun too. Make a story using 5 of the words etc #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:35:49 |
or use the letters of the words to find new ones #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:36:41 |
@bellinguist Personalisation to provide model for pre-reading task, I mean #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:37:19 |
apologies if internet is slow. A ship dragging its anchor sliced through our cables, so we are reduced power #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:38:19 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat That's a great one! New vocab to tell a story related to their life experience? One item=one anecdote |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:38:58 |
Using short clips of video on related topic to activate interest #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:39:32 |
#ELTchat I guided students to materials (books, articles, videos) to work on outside of class. CB type exercises too. In class Ss spoke. |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:40:01 |
@GlenysHanson I much prefer your way of working :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:41:15 |
ask sts for alternatives to topic vocab- phrasal verbs- synonyms etc #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:41:18 |
We should also note that many teachers' books have useful suggestions/tips for teachers #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:41:26 |
@fionaljp @bellinguist start without context for Re7Li to get the sts to build context with audio/visual tools. #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:42:03 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat I realise many Ts don't have the freedom I had, but some don't even realise it could exist... and it's efficient. |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:43:04 |
@GlenysHanson Yes. I try the blended type approach with some classes aqnd when I'm T training, but this group are very trad. #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:43:36 |
@bellinguist #ELTchat.Exactly. So they engaging with the text twice: making qs and asking qs |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:43:53 |
@GioLic1976 @fionaljp @bellinguist What's Re7Li ? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:44:33 |
@GlenysHanson LOL wasn't going to ask. THought it a typo #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:45:53 |
To make reading tasks more kinaesthetic, they read different sections of the text displayed around classroom and order #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:46:22 |
@bellinguist or make it a running dictation? #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:47:05 |
@GlenysHanson @SueAnnan .- LOL Readind/Listening #ELTchat. Sorry, am typing from phone. |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:47:57 |
@GioLic1976 @GlenysHanson LOL.Now we know :-) #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:48:03 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat Nearly all my Ss started off "very trad". A lot of them changed to "I like being treated as a responsible adult." |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:49:01 |
@GlenysHanson unfortunately I have very short term sts. It's hard to change viewpoint in a fortnight #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:49:17 |
Reading quickly/ scanning - they work in teams and write answers on board to encourage them to read quickly and it's competitive #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:49:33 |
#ELTchat How about getting learners to summarise as post-reading task? |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:49:35 |
@SueAnnan @bellinguist #ELTchat or select a text for the class to work on. you give them options, they choose |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:49:46 |
@GioLic1976 @SueAnnan Thanks Giovanni for helping out an old lady. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:50:36 |
@GlenysHanson @GioLic1976 You're only as old as you feel Glenys . I think you are still a young'un #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:51:41 |
@bellinguist Or have a backchannel - Padlet or TodaysMeet #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:52:24 |
To check comprehension give them the text again with ten mistakes. They correct in teams. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:53:04 |
or chop the text up as a jigsaw and get sts to reassemble #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:53:11 |
@SueAnnan Indeed! Haven't done one for ages! #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:53:49 |
@bellinguist #ELTchat love this one for juniors. if you have a classroom and a computer lab you can prepare qs online so sts run back &forth |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:54:27 |
@GlenysHanson there is hope then :-) #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:55:16 |
You could get learners to write the questions - give them the answers #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T19:55:26 |
@fionaljp Spoken or written summary? If it's spoken they have to include three incorrect facts so there is purpose for listening #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:55:38 |
@fionaljp Yes that's always popular #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:55:57 |
@fionaljp #ELTchat. Brilliant. Sts can also summarize and adopt different viewpoints on the text and then compare. Great follow-up |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T19:57:29 |
@SueAnnan Thanks Sue. Just don't know texting conventions like younger people. As for sexting I don't think I want to. @GioLic1976 #ELTchat |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T19:57:40 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat good ol'chopping! Thanks for reminding us of this one! |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T19:57:56 |
@SueAnnan Oh, :-( I thought I’d had an original idea! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:58:11 |
We're coming to the end of the hour. Thanks for the engaging convo. Remember the slow burn for 24 hrs if you have things to add. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T19:58:39 |
@fionaljp I've done it in the past, but had forgotten it :-) Sorry #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T20:00:18 |
Thanks everyone. Wishing you all a great week until we meet again. I'm off to sort out the tweet collector now #ELTchat |
| bellinguist |
2016-11-30T20:00:32 |
How do people adapt controlled practice to vary it and make it more dynamci? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T20:00:45 |
@bellinguist @fionaljp Can somebody do #ELTchat summary that way? |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T20:01:50 |
@GlenysHanson @bellinguist @fionaljp Why not? We have a summarist ( is that a word?) this week who has already volunteered. #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-11-30T20:04:25 |
#ELTchat See you all next week. |
| GioLic1976 |
2016-11-30T20:04:46 |
#ELTchat Hope to see y'all next week. Thanks, everybody! |
| SueAnnan |
2016-11-30T20:04:47 |
In slow burn mode now #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T20:04:59 |
@bellinguist #ELTchat Was thinking written - saw a nice activity -https://t.co/EslgrAun95 |
| fionaljp |
2016-11-30T20:05:40 |
Nice to #ELTchat Bye |
| Marisa_C |
2016-11-30T20:25:49 |
nice idea #ELTchat https://t.co/gmuT1tmlxa |
| tesolmatthew |
2016-11-30T20:22:38 |
RT @SueAnnan: In slow burn mode now #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-11-30T20:21:51 |
@bellinguist Love the Bryson book bt can't see how Ss interested unless u created sth of a puzzle/mystery out of pre-reading #eltchat |
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at 11:59 pm on Dec 1, 2016
Slow burn added
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