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Teaching Conversation when the L1 Norms are different

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ELTchat 2016-10-26T17:32:29 Our topic today - "Conversational skills in English may differ from a student's L1- how do you teach them suceessfully?" #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T17:43:52 Looking forward to #ELTchat in 15 minutes
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T17:59:40 Who is around for the start of #ELTchat ?Talking about conversational skills and how to teach them successfully when they differ in the L1
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:01:12 @SueAnnan #ELTchat  Hi Sue.Hello everyone
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:02:51 @MConca16 Hello. I'm glad you're here #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:04:01 do you do much conversation teaching? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:04:43 @SueAnnan #ELTchat I do.I find it hard at times though
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:05:37 @MConca16 I work in a lot of conversation, but I don't often 'teach' it. My classes seem to communicate themselves without help #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:05:57 @MConca16 Why do you find it hard? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:07:03 @SueAnnan #ELTchat I feelt it's important to teach it when you work in a non-English speaking country.I see you are in Jersey
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:07:38 @MConca16 Yes, my students come from all over Europe though #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:08:01 What do you use as prompts? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:08:28 @SueAnnan #ELTchat the nature of conversation itself is so complex. In some contexts it's harder2teach e.g. BE
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:08:40 @MConca16 I agree. It's the main thing my students ask for #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:09:27 One thing that needs help is turn-taking #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:10:49 @MConca16 I use the Cambridge BE activities book to get my students started, or Business listening and Speaking #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:11:13 @SueAnnan #ELTchat https://t.co/oEaD3Jv58r to start/maintain/end a conversation too
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:11:32 @MConca16 They do while on the island :-) #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:12:10 @MConca16 and small talk- what are taboo topics etc #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:13:41 Where is everyone tonight? Half -term? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:14:10 @MConca16 How do you help them? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:16:09 @MConca16 do you use video to help? #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2016-10-26T18:17:36 @SueAnnan @MConca16 Sorry - I'm only half-around :( And it's a great topic too! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:18:00 @MConca16 Great. There are some good examples around these days #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:18:34 @TeresaBestwick @MConca16 Great to have you join our dialogue #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:19:21 @TeresaBestwick Do your students have communication difficulties? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:19:22 @SueAnnan #ELTchat I tend to record colleagues too whenevr pssible to make sund more spontanous.This is the other thing: spontaneity
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:20:12 @SueAnnan #ELTchat ooops spelling nightmare :)
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:20:21 @MConca16 I make small talk every time I enter the class. This helps with spontaneity, i find #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:21:38 Be back in a tick #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:21:56 @SueAnnan #ELTchat  teachers are great source of conversation if they can get everyone to talk
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:23:42 @MConca16 Yes. If the students think you are genuinely interested in what they have been up to, it works well. #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:25:46 #ELTchat it's when learners have a conversation with peers or with NS on their travels that they have huge problems-they say
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:26:31 @MConca16 Is that a question of confidence or a lack of skill? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:27:50 @SueAnnan #ELTchat with strong learners it's anxiety and lack of confidence-I guess
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:29:26 @MConca16 you could start by getting them to make little tiny podcasts. Then they could email them to you #ELTchat
teachingright 2016-10-26T18:30:00 @ELTchat If students are given the chance to chose their favorite topics! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:30:58 @teachingright #ELTchat True. perhaps they could do mini presentations about something they love #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:31:29 @SueAnnan #ELTchat  Great!It should help to look back at what went wrong and work on weaknesses
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:32:16 @MConca16 and remember that they will see their progress that way too- and build confidence #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:32:49 @SueAnnan #ELTchat true!Confidence booster!
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:33:33 @MConca16 I often wish I had recorded students at the start of a course so they could see the development #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:33:55 #ELTchat https://t.co/2eCON8jiNK
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:34:35 #ELTchat Most of my BE learners say that they feel ashamed when they don't understand their partners.They avoid conversations in the end
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:35:03 @SueAnnan #ELTchat  excellent idea
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:35:27 @MConca16 Teach them to listen for the message(stressed words) and ignore the grammar. It really helps #ELTchat
V5Ammar 2016-10-26T18:35:44 I found teaching fillers (oh ok, cool, right, lovely, omg etc. ) to be helpful #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:36:21 @V5Ammar Great. These are often forgotten about, and can make sts sound more natural #ELTchat
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MConca16 2016-10-26T18:37:49 @SueAnnan #ELTchat How about asking for repetitions only when really needed.Is there a time when asking to repeat is 'rude'?
teachingright 2016-10-26T18:38:39 Ss may discuss problems & solutions  in other cultures & compare them to their own context  #ELTchat
teachingright 2016-10-26T18:39:03 RT @V5Ammar: I found teaching fillers (oh ok, cool, right, lovely, omg etc. ) to be helpful #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:39:07 @MConca16 I suppose only if you ask a few times :-). IMO it is perfectly okay to ask for repet. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:40:13 @teachingright IT sounds like part of the problem is when they make contact with NS #ELTChat What would you do in that situation?
V5Ammar 2016-10-26T18:42:05 We normally pre-negotiate a hilarious topic, talk in pairs, in fours, evenly a group conversation, my magic is MINGLE & cup of tea #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:42:52 So: Practice, turn taking, starting and ending,small talk, hesitation noises and small words to keep convo going #ELTChat anything to add?
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:43:41 @V5Ammar Sounds like a lovely warm environment for sts to communicate with confidence #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:44:17 Lovely idea #ELTchat https://t.co/t65SzDgxrg
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:44:24 @V5Ammar #ELTchat chances for rehearsing are useful for lower/Int levels.Have you tried speed dating kind of thing?
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:44:51 @MConca16 @V5Ammar One of my colleagues loves speeddating #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:45:50 @SueAnnan #ELTchat  repair and deal with misunderstandings?
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:46:03 The main thing is to be nonthreatening and offer chances for real communication #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:47:18 @MConca16 Yes. Always useful #ELTchat
teachingright 2016-10-26T18:47:34 RT @SueAnnan: So: Practice, turn taking, starting and ending,small talk, hesitation noises and small words to keep convo going #ELTChat any…
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:49:30 We'll be wrapping this chat up in 10 minutes. Would anyone like to volunteer for the summary. I think it won't be difficult #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:51:18 @SueAnnan #ELTchat motivation and choice of topics should help with that.I must say my leaners love role cards so they can be someone else!
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:52:19 @MConca16 Mine hate that :-) They are happy to chat about most things, or work in pairs, etc but don't enjoy roleplays much #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:53:42 @SueAnnan #ELTchat either they have a lot to say or they are well trained.Mine run out of words/ideas too quickly
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:54:47 @MConca16 I've envelopes full of topic cards to keep going. They have to speak for 1 minute minimum before others can ask questions #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:56:41 @SueAnnan #ELTchat do you also provide vocab or useful phrases cards b4 or during the task?
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:56:43 5 minutes left, then we'll keep it on a slow burn for 24 hours. Any takers for the summary? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:57:23 @MConca16 Yes. Sometimes. Or we talk about topics they have already met in the CB #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:58:16 @SueAnnan #ELTchat Hope there will be more disscussion during slow burn.Lovely to chat to you
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T18:58:54 @MConca16 and you. I think Half-term might have interfered this week :-) #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T18:59:27 @SueAnnan #ELTchat  I'm happy to do the summary.Hopefully,it will be a chance to start my own blog :)
SueAnnan 2016-10-26T19:00:05 Thanks to the intrepid souls who joined us for tonight's #ELTchat Hope to catch up with you again soon. Remember the slow burn
MConca16 2016-10-26T19:00:57 @SueAnnan #ELTchat lucky them,no half term here :)
Marisa_C 2016-10-26T19:02:13 Apologies but had a tutorial which could not be postponed - will read transcript and add some ideas in slow burn mode #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-26T19:04:05 @SueAnnan #ELTchat Thanks!I loved your last ppt style summary.


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