| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T17:24:55 |
Both here and on the blog /piːpl wɒntə 'tɔːkəbəʊtprəˌnʌns'ɪeɪʃən/ and how to make Ts more comfortable teaching it… https://t.co/QB0Mw6RlzK |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T17:49:05 |
In 10 minues #ELTchat - Pronunciation and how to make Ts more comfortable teaching it - Join us - no phonemic script - was a joke |
| teachingright |
2016-10-12T17:49:23 |
RT @ELTchat: In 10 minues #ELTchat - Pronunciation and how to make Ts more comfortable teaching it - Join us - no phonemic script - was a j… |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T17:53:58 |
Just a few minutes to go before #ELTchat Come and join us https://t.co/zLppOHfBmc |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T17:57:21 |
Hey! I've missed you guys! Was there a break for a while? Kept looing for you #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T17:59:13 |
@AdeleRaemer Hello Adele - we had a longish summer break as all mods working full time on summer courses :-) #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T17:59:50 |
Hello #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T17:59:56 |
@Marisa_C GLad to see we're back! Will try to keep up tonight! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:01:01 |
Hello everyone and welcome to an #ELTchat on how to get more comfortable teaching pronunciation https://t.co/s9ovzlmAOl |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:01:33 |
Evening all :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:01:34 |
@fionaljp @GlenysHanson @SueAnnan @AdeleRaemer @kalinagoenglish welcome all #eltchat |
| Smlamptey |
2016-10-12T18:03:13 |
@Marisa_C This is my first Twitter chat. Looking forward to it! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:03:34 |
I need some practical ideas to interest my colleagues. They shy away from anything pron. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:03:41 |
So what frightens people abt teaching pronunciation?- phonemic script? - own accent?- fear of not being able to consistent? #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:04:02 |
#ELTchat Hello everyone.Hope you're great |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:04:04 |
@Smlamptey @Marisa_C Hi Sheila #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:04:20 |
@Smlamptey hi Sheila and welcome - you'll be fine - let me know if you need help #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:04:20 |
@Marisa_C probably a bit of all of them TBH #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:04:31 |
My students are shy about talking as it is, I am concerned it will put them off - I'm happy that they open their mouths in EFL #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:04:46 |
@Marisa_C all of them #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:05:30 |
@SueAnnan Most of my trainees (Delta) shy away from such assignments as well - like primary pupils with a new alphabet :-) #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:05:40 |
The foreign language lesson on CELTA is useful to highlight the need for pronunciation #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:05:41 |
I found some fun ideas on Hancock Mcdonald's website for teaching French and Spanish students but... #ELTchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:05:55 |
Hello! Hope to be keeping an eye but unable to participate 100%. Sorry. But wld hate to miss entirely ! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:06:30 |
@fionaljp very true but doesn't focus on how to teach it - many CELTA courses not really hot on pron tho #ELTchat https://t.co/al4h6FHM6U |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:06:56 |
#eltchat Evening everyone! Personally, I love pron - think colleagues' concerns can be around not seeming like you know |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:07:26 |
@rapple18 Hey Rachel! Welcome! Long time no see! :-) #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:07:28 |
Difficulties - for NNS & NS - being able to hear & model consistently #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:07:46 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp #ELTchat that's why Deltees are still unsure how to teach it! |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:07:47 |
Okay: own accent not usually a problem in my area. But phonemic script gives them the screaming ...... #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:08:03 |
@Marisa_C True but puts trainees in position where they are aware of need for it #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:08:11 |
On FB for EFL in Israel we just had discussion abt s'one who was told to pron the "l" in calm. Had a whole thread abt pron #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:08:14 |
I used to moan at uni (Reading) for the innumerable hours on phonetics, accoustic phonetics, phonology & pedagogid phonetics #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:08:40 |
@Marisa_C That's where Trinity differs. Dip trainees are cool with Pron stuff. #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-10-12T18:08:57 |
Am in a building with no wifi/3G coverage.. trying to get connected #eltchat - hope to make it |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:09:24 |
@angelos_bollas Mwah. See you maybe #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:09:29 |
@SueAnnan Is there an obligatory assignment? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:09:51 |
@Marisa_C Yes. and a live interview with the examiner #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:10:51 |
@SueAnnan not on the delta - they can choose it as a system assignment but not obligatory - thought TESTED in final written exam #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:11:04 |
@Marisa_C Don’t understand how CELTA course can not be hot on pron #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:11:07 |
How is speaking assessed in your schools? Here we have oral matriculation but emphasis only on understandable pronunciation. #ELTchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:11:24 |
Lets face it, many coursebokks fight shy and relegate pron work - if you're lucky! - to the TB! Even then its a struggle to keep #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:11:51 |
@Marisa_C It's module 3, I think. Trinity are BIG on pron, even at Cert Level #ELTchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:12:05 |
@fionaljp @Marisa_C varies hugely, me thinks... depends on centre, and on trainers #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:12:09 |
@fionaljp I can't either Fiona - a very important part of every assessment actually even on the CELTA #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:12:13 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Where are examiners from? Co-teachers? #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:12:43 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C #ELTchat so a cousre on Pron or extra training will help? |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:12:45 |
@AdeleRaemer @Marisa_C external examiners from the Exam board #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:13:13 |
@TeresaBestwick @Marisa_C Yes. It's my favourite bit to teach #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:13:29 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C In Israel EVERY student must be tested. It's a logistic nightmare. Teachers travel to other schools #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:13:58 |
But let's begin on HOW - repetition for pron standard - but some Ts not confident - i suggest using recordings from dictionary #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:14:50 |
@MConca16 @SueAnnan I used to offer such a course but got disappointed - no one wanted to do it :-) #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:15:44 |
@Marisa_C Step by step approach #ELTchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:16:02 |
(How) Little and often. And deciding whats easiest, eg sentence or word stress, individ soubdsy, or intonation (v tough f many) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:16:23 |
The other thing that needs doing is to teach rhythm and tonic stress - without these no sound linking possible #eltchat raps great fr ths |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:16:36 |
#ELTchat Encouraging teachers to use one colour for pron (mine is green) - look at board at the end of a lesson to see how much *green used |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:16:45 |
@TeresaBestwick Being a NS does give confidence but NNST shd realise the their Ss would be delighted to pron Eng as well as they do #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:16:59 |
Do any of you use WhatsApp to check pronunciation? #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:17:08 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan #ELTchat Shame.It's so hard to learn phonemic script in a short time e.g. during CELTA or DELTA |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:17:30 |
@AdeleRaemer How? #ELTchat |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:17:44 |
@TeresaBestwick that's a lovely idea #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:17:55 |
@Marisa_C had probs this week with Age v edge, bitch and beach, and a few that sounded rude too #ELTchat Abslutely have to fix at that point |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:18:24 |
@fionaljp I have my Ss read a passage to me. They can practice as much as they want. Shows me reading ability & pron #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:18:31 |
@rapple18 intonation truly difficult-I get Ss to repeat boring drills with expression - put up mood faces & tthey secretly choose 1 #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:18:48 |
@MConca16 @Marisa_C I have a website set up to learn all that pre-Cert. #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:19:07 |
In fact, I think in Israel we do not actually teach pronunciation per se #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:19:39 |
Here is a link to a vast collection of mood faces https://t.co/W6ooVWukkE #ELTchat (say your lines passionately...etc) #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:19:49 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Lovely.Pls share it #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:20:14 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp #eltchat when I did mine pre-course task had pron.Never done it b4,not much done on crs.Assumed knowledge 1/ |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:20:17 |
@Marisa_C @rapple18 Great idea! #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:20:23 |
Don’t you think it’s better to integrate? #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:20:32 |
@Marisa_C @rapple18 When I do theater games Ss have to repeat with different emotions. That's as close a s I get to teaching Pron #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:20:49 |
Ooops, keep forgetting to type #ELTchat on my tweets...didn't have to think about it with nurph! |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:21:16 |
@fionaljp Please explain #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:21:35 |
Oooh, that sounds like a great idea #ELTchat https://t.co/kpnbSEeri2 |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:21:43 |
@TeresaBestwick @AdeleRaemer @fionaljp so using whatsapp recording feature? #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:22:05 |
@AdeleRaemer Do you mean it’s embedded within lessons? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:22:07 |
@AdeleRaemer I didn't either but I required whatever Ss said to be as correct as poss: pron + rhythm + intonation #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:22:15 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp #eltchat 2/ a few'd never done it (like me). It's been hard making up for it.Did lots more on #Delta. 2/ |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:22:25 |
@rapple18 @TeresaBestwick @fionaljp Yes They practice and then when they're at their best, record and send privately #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:22:47 |
one of my students sent me something she recorded which was unintelligible. I rerecorded it and sent it back #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:23:21 |
@SueAnnan Then I guess she really needed the pron practice ;-) #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:23:22 |
#ELTchat Do you teach Phonemic charts to your Ss when you start at A1Level? |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:23:39 |
@AdeleRaemer within the lesson as appropriate rather than in isolation #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:23:47 |
@AdeleRaemer @rapple18 @fionaljp Aaaah, that's cool - plus they get lots of practice rehearsing! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:24:05 |
@AdeleRaemer @SueAnnan no i think Sue is describing a great way of giving feedback and modelling :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:24:14 |
@MConca16 Yes. I do, but only the sounds they need as and when #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:24:17 |
@Marisa_C @fionaljp #eltchat Sue @eltnotebook has whole sections on it but,as I said,it was hard.Can't do in class what I'm not comfy w/ 3/ |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:24:23 |
@MConca16 Not in Israel. As it is, they have to learn a different alphabet. Ss would take a contract out on me #ELTchat ;-) |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:24:48 |
I like2focus on stressed words, then weak ones - by default - then look at linking. Sts can often work this out if done stages 1/2 #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:25:06 |
@MConca16 I'd say best time to start #ELTchat (though coming from exp with Roman script - if learners are learning alphabet it's too much?) |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:25:11 |
F/Cs where the phonemic script of a word after meaning shown is shown FIRST before the English spelling (on flipside) #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:25:33 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat like difficult sounds in vocab taught at their level? |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:25:41 |
2/2 Based in a coursebook listening extract (1-2 lines only) yr model is on the CD #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:25:44 |
@MConca16 I didn't use the Phonemic chart Marisa showed us, I used Silent Way charts. principle very similar. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:25:46 |
I think the schwa matters for both speaking and listening. I use lego to show where stress is weak #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:25:57 |
RT @SueAnnan: I think the schwa matters for both speaking and listening. I use lego to show where stress is weak #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:26:16 |
I believe Ss wish for a better pron a LOT more that Ts lead us to believe just because not comfortable teaching pron #eltchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:26:23 |
@SueAnnan Schwa is easy in Israel. Did you know it comes from Hebrew? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:26:29 |
@MConca16 Yes. absolutely #ELTChat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:26:33 |
@TeresaBestwick #ELTchat absolutely. I had this with Japanese kids quite a lot. |
| mariacolussa |
2016-10-12T18:27:05 |
Hi #eltchat! I´m lurking a bit,w/A1s I often teach the different vowel sounds w/egs not requiring production, but highlighting diffs @ first |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:27:09 |
Hear hear. That's usually covered by 5-10 symbols max :) #ELTchat https://t.co/wKFQbkSf9n |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:27:10 |
@Marisa_C Oh I am 100% with you on that #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:27:28 |
if you are teaching YL's that is the IDEAL age for them to get a great accent - pity if they dont #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:27:54 |
@mariacolussa welcome Maria :-) #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:27:55 |
@Marisa_C Agree. Pron charts are reassuring for both Ts & Ss. #ELTchat |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:28:07 |
@Marisa_C But aren't they embarrassed? #ELTchat Some of my kids try hard, then others make fun of them. "Putting on airs" |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:28:15 |
Cuiz rods not yet reached Jersey ?! ;) #ELTchat https://t.co/ZWB6bzQ6YS |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:28:24 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat I did LSA1 on #connectedspeech & pleased I did. Challenging but opened up a whole new world |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:28:41 |
#ELTchat With YLs I used phonemic script to write secret messages for them to decode |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:28:43 |
I'm doing a CPD session on Monday to encourage the scaredy cats in my school #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:28:47 |
The interactive phonemic charts like Macmillan's make it easier for Ts too (and for Ss) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:29:28 |
@rapple18 lego more tactile methinks #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:29:30 |
Pron geeks can download https://t.co/0VqokwMRDn and have WhatsApp message in IPA #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:29:33 |
I think with online electronic dictionaries the Ss may NOT need to learn phonemic srcipt #ELTchat but Ts should |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:29:35 |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat I wish I could join :) |
| AdeleRaemer |
2016-10-12T18:29:47 |
OK - I'm cutting out here - keep up the great work! Hope to b back next week. Thanks for the food 4 thought! #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:30:24 |
@MConca16 I very rarely modeled. I didn't find it necessary. Ss worked out sounds for themselves with charts as support. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:30:29 |
@SueAnnan @rapple18 we use cuisinaire rods for long short syllables - wait a minute I might have a short trainee video #eltchat (Silent Way) |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:30:48 |
@SueAnnan LOVE lego :) #ELTchat |
| mariacolussa |
2016-10-12T18:30:51 |
Wow! Thanks for sharing! #eltchat this sounds like a great idea! Lots of potential! https://t.co/9CXZX4QESN |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:30:58 |
@TeresaBestwick have tried that before but with their names instead turned into a mingling activity . adults & YLs enjoyed that. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:31:37 |
@rapple18 did you see our #ELTChat on using Lego? |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:31:40 |
@GlenysHanson #ELTchat Enchanting.It's great |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:31:40 |
@AdeleRaemer …maybe I misunderstood ! #ELTchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:31:56 |
@TeresaBestwick @GooglePlay oooh that's me sorted for the rest of the evening - thx! #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:32:17 |
#ELTchatHello everyone. Just butted in and started replying to comments without actually knowing what's going on |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:32:23 |
@GemmaELT for me (as a tutor) I think it's one of the easiest areas for an LSA :-) #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:32:55 |
NO! I'll go to the summaries. Thx!! #ELTchat https://t.co/GtW8h4rOSR |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:32:59 |
What alternatives are there to using Phonemic script? Hand movements? #ELTchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2016-10-12T18:33:01 |
RT @Marisa_C: I believe Ss wish for a better pron a LOT more that Ts lead us to believe just because not comfortable teaching pron #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:33:43 |
@AdeleRaemer teens yes but before age of 12 PRIME age for acquiring - still great plasticity in vocal organs #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:34:24 |
@mariacolussa I'm not very good at IPA so I cheat and use https://t.co/VAp09kqYIg #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:34:34 |
@SueAnnan recordings on the web? (of words_ American central for whole talks and connected speech #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:34:58 |
@SueAnnan I've seen learners who write the nearest equivalent in their own pron...doesn't completely satisfy me though #ELTchat |
| mariacolussa |
2016-10-12T18:35:19 |
@SueAnnan #eltchat I ask ss to make up their own symbols, ones they understand n remember once they go back home |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:35:22 |
Learn the phonemic sript here https://t.co/7wjNZNOUVu #eltchat |
| tesolmatthew |
2016-10-12T18:35:50 |
@SueAnnan @MConca16 @Marisa_C #ELTchat is that sharable or private for your lucky pre-Cert folks?:) |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:35:58 |
Lots, - by demo etc. Is there an Adrian Underhill vid anywhere - ? masses there. I'll try to find later for slo-bur… https://t.co/S8vVmMqQG5 |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:35:59 |
@TeresaBestwick Looking forward to trying this! #ELTchat Thanks |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:37:03 |
And of course loads of great pron games MAINLY for ear training and discrimination practice at CUP https://t.co/ZOEvzXJMcp #eltchat Love it |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:37:14 |
@SueAnnan I used hand movements, but lots of other techniques. Some described here: https://t.co/5BdHzCEc10 #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:37:26 |
@Marisa_C will take a look later #ELTchat |
| mariacolussa |
2016-10-12T18:37:30 |
@GlenysHanson I´d certainly give this a try! Thank you! I didn´t know abt it, will use it for the "Secret Code" activity suggested #eltchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:37:36 |
@rapple18 #ELTchat Mr Underhill suggests teaching how we make sounds.I've been trying that e.g. position etc |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:37:38 |
Online translators can be good for individual words, but often miss out on features of connected speech #ELTchat |
| rapple18 |
2016-10-12T18:38:06 |
https://t.co/jobnpIQS6l 5' of Adrian. And lots more on youtube. Miming, showing etc #eltchat https://t.co/3kclsJR6Nd |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:38:17 |
I suppose IATEFL Pronsig will have some ideas too #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:38:21 |
@SueAnnan @tesolmatthew have one too but in a private wiki so closed - sorry #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:38:47 |
@Marisa_C Absolutely! I always send Cert trainees there to practise #ELTchat |
| Smlamptey |
2016-10-12T18:39:02 |
@Marisa_C My students love when we do tongue twister activities, especially when they make their own #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:39:06 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat as a tutor...Of course! but that's cheating |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:40:04 |
clapping and humming the words also help with word stress. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:40:33 |
@GemmaELT no, I meant for my trainees! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:40:33 |
@Nadyoula and also chants and songs #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:40:56 |
RT @Nadyoula: clapping and humming the words also help with word stress. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:41:02 |
@Smlamptey love the idea of them making their own #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T18:42:07 |
@Marisa_C As NNEST I'd say it may be our own accent #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:42:34 |
This is a nice resource: https://t.co/gZGkrZUERL #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:42:45 |
@cecilianobreelt @Marisa_C but just think how beneficial it is for the Ls to hear how well you do #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:43:13 |
@cecilianobreelt i have a NNEST trainee who is so adept with the online dictionaries it's awesome :-) #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:43:15 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat aaahhhh! Ops! Thought you meant in terms of marking etc. It *was* easier and more than I imagine.The idea was daunting :( |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:44:29 |
some great ideas to look through and try out #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:44:32 |
@rapple18 Lots of Adrian Underhill's videos on YouTube. Example: https://t.co/bkZYGNR2S3 #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:44:37 |
@MConca16 Nonsense with an English accent is great fun and my young ss loved it- e.gGreek place names with an English pronunciation #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:45:44 |
@GlenysHanson @rapple18 true - lots of great recordings there thanks for reminder #eltchat |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:45:50 |
What's your approach to teaching pron? proactive or reactive? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:46:51 |
for older Ss esp BE ad EAP, we use https://t.co/VEOjcHkbOB - they watch then record own voice, get grade, repeat, fix, love it #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:47:08 |
@Nadyoula I'd say more reactive than proactive...excellent question! Given me something to think about! #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:47:25 |
RT @Marisa_C: @cecilianobreelt i have a NNEST trainee who is so adept with the online dictionaries it's awesome :-) #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T18:47:32 |
@Marisa_C I use them all the time as well! My favourite is Collins and I like to double check tricky isolated words with forvo. #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:47:43 |
RT @GlenysHanson: @rapple18 Lots of Adrian Underhill's videos on YouTube. Example: https://t.co/bkZYGNR2S3 #ELTchat |
| TeresaBestwick |
2016-10-12T18:47:45 |
Time to disconnect (and refill my wine glass!) Have a lovely evening everyone :) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:47:58 |
@Nadyoula In my case, mostly reactive. I only work on probs, and have mixed nationality classes so difficult to find similar probs #ELTChat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:48:09 |
@Nadyoula #ELTchat I'm still a drilling fan.Reactive isn't it? |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:48:23 |
@Nadyoula both proactive if preparing and scaffolding - reactive in error correction & feedback (great question btw) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:48:54 |
@MConca16 @Nadyoula pro... #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T18:49:00 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C I don't shy away, I have the guts to do it( + lots of prep)lol ! But I'd say most NNEST don't feel that way #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:49:16 |
@TeresaBestwick Bye #ELTchat and thanks again :-) |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:49:26 |
@Marisa_C @rapple18 Also on Adrian's site: https://t.co/wwx0ouN4JA #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:49:47 |
@cecilianobreelt i would agree - am good on that myself but lots of vocal coach training under my belt #eltchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:50:12 |
@Nadyoula #eltchat Probably reactive but it does depend on class: nationalities and/or levels |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:50:25 |
@MConca16 oh me too! #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:50:46 |
RT @fionaljp: This is a nice resource: https://t.co/gZGkrZUERL #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:50:55 |
RT @rapple18: https://t.co/jobnpIQS6l 5' of Adrian. And lots more on youtube. Miming, showing etc #eltchat https://t.co/3kclsJR6Nd |
| mariacolussa |
2016-10-12T18:50:55 |
@cecilianobreelt @SueAnnan @Marisa_C I often share my own struggles while learning English sounds myself. I start w/that n move on! #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:51:08 |
@BritishSideTT @Marisa_C Yes, and I think that is it - it is about getting started... #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:51:11 |
RT @GlenysHanson: @SueAnnan I used hand movements, but lots of other techniques. Some described here: https://t.co/5BdHzCEc10 #ELTchat |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:51:12 |
@SueAnnan good point there. Very difficult to predict problems with multinational learners. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:51:22 |
@mariacolussa @cecilianobreelt @Marisa_C Great idea #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:51:25 |
Should be - that's what we have as well - and of course active commenting after TPs on this feature #ELTchat https://t.co/nJyBvcAGU4 |
| Smlamptey |
2016-10-12T18:51:27 |
@Marisa_C Programs like Voki https://t.co/0PCSiQPsti allows shy Ss to speak through avatars & hear their pronunciation. Fun for Ss #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:51:51 |
@Nadyoula I reacted to what Ss said and got them to develop criteria for correcting themselves. #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T18:52:14 |
@Marisa_C Even NE teachers should have lots of prep, right? :) It's not sth that should be taken for granted by them( or anyone). #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:52:23 |
#ELTchat @fionaljp integrating Pron stages in each lesson or have a Pron focussed lesson.What do you think? |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:52:41 |
@cecilianobreelt @Marisa_C True. In fact that's what prompted this chat #ELTchat |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:53:03 |
@GlenysHanson that's great! Do you find it works better with higher levels? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:53:21 |
@MConca16 @fionaljp both #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:53:23 |
https://t.co/poJEG1tzjY great -allows shy kids to write and hear text at first - https://t.co/MMUeK66bWT for what @SueAnnan cont. #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T18:53:25 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Oh, I see. Sorry, I missed the beginning of the chat! #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T18:53:35 |
@Smlamptey @Marisa_C #ELTchat never tried.Great idea! |
| tesolmatthew |
2016-10-12T18:53:49 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan #ELTchat understandable - not everything can be open source and shared willy-nilly! :) |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:54:01 |
@MConca16 I think integrating pron in stages in each lesson (apart from CELTA input sessions) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:54:26 |
Student records, may be other ss too then t records correct version for all to hear #eltchat (Communily lang learning is like this) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:54:35 |
@fionaljp @MConca16 I think mainly as and when needed #ELTChat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:55:35 |
With 5 mins to go- who would like to write a summary of this #ELTChat? |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:56:06 |
#eltchatters - we have done other chats on this topic but somehow summaries lost - will look! #eltchat Any of you for a summary pls? |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:56:20 |
RT @Marisa_C: Student records, may be other ss too then t records correct version for all to hear #eltchat (Communily lang learning is like… |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:56:26 |
@BritishSideTT @Marisa_C I don’t think you have to teach the chart - just introduce step by step #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:56:35 |
@SueAnnan great minds and all that! #ELTchat |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T18:57:05 |
@fionaljp @MConca16 I don't integrate in every lesson. A little bit of both? I think mini lessons r great fun and break routine. #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T18:57:09 |
@Nadyoula All levels. Vocab & grammar can be more advanced but often pron is not. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:57:25 |
Just another announcement - we have invited @tesolmatthew to join our #eltchat moderator teach - congratulations Mathee!!!! Yay!!!! |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T18:57:55 |
@Nadyoula @MConca16 I didn’t mean necessarily in every lesson - just as and when #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:58:20 |
Summary writer please? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T18:59:05 |
@fionaljp on the celta a requirement and some IPA on the board expected #eltchat just so ppl don't think it's not done |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T18:59:34 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C #eltchat Some of us (read ME)still grande one to send in |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T18:59:35 |
Don't forget that the chat will continue on slow burn for the next 24 hours if you wish to add something later #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T19:00:09 |
@Marisa_C getting confused now in which context we are talking about! #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T19:00:15 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C #eltchat *have (apologies, just realised phone's set on IT) |
| sandymillin |
2016-10-12T19:00:26 |
Oops. Forgot the #eltchat time change! Going to be hard to make it this year, but will try when I can :s |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T19:00:43 |
@GemmaELT @SueAnnan hmmmmm hmmm we shall have to invent a very painful punishment for your tardiness!!!! grrr #eltchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T19:00:45 |
@Marisa_C Today I taught -ed endings in connected speech using @luizotavioELT 's great blog post… https://t.co/ct5oFWW61H |
| GulistanKul |
2016-10-12T19:00:54 |
@Marisa_C Definitely my own accent #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T19:01:07 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T19:01:17 |
@Marisa_C Congrats @tesolmatthew #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T19:02:07 |
@GulistanKul have you tried using online dictionaly recordings? (or from CD) #ELTchat |
| Nadyoula |
2016-10-12T19:02:25 |
@cecilianobreelt @Marisa_C @luizotavioELT OMG the -ed endings drive Ss crazy. #ELTchat thx! |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T19:02:42 |
@Marisa_C @luizotavioELT Thank you! End of chat? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T19:02:51 |
@Nadyoula @cecilianobreelt @Marisa_C @luizotavioELT They are easy :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T19:03:38 |
Och well, Must be my turn to do a summary #ELTchat |
| cecilianobreelt |
2016-10-12T19:03:52 |
@Nadyoula @Marisa_C @luizotavioELT That blog post is SO useful AND fun. My private student loved it. Highly recommended! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T19:04:19 |
So -summary writer please? #eltchat this chat may continue in slow motion (slowburn) till tomorrow if more ppl have ideas -summary? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-10-12T19:04:37 |
Thank you everyone for taking part. Some great thoughts to work on. See you all next week- remember the slow burn #ELTChat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T19:05:10 |
RT @SueAnnan: Thank you everyone for taking part. Some great thoughts to work on. See you all next week- remember the slow burn #ELTChat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T19:05:15 |
RT @Marisa_C: So -summary writer please? #eltchat this chat may continue in slow motion (slowburn) till tomorrow if more ppl have ideas -su… |
| fionaljp |
2016-10-12T19:05:32 |
@SueAnnan Thanks Sue and thanks all. #ELTchat |
| MConca16 |
2016-10-12T19:05:36 |
#ELTchat Thanks everyone.Nice chat as usual. |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T19:05:57 |
Great ideas - `i think this summary will be awesome! #ELTchat |
| GemmaELT |
2016-10-12T19:07:26 |
#ELTchatGoodnight. Pleased I made tonight |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-10-12T19:07:43 |
@cecilianobreelt @Marisa_C @luizotavioELT An online exercise on -ed verbs https://t.co/L40NjVM03m Also a few other pron exos #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-10-12T19:09:55 |
thank you all for sharing some great resources #ELTchat - will start a public padlet @tesolmatthew can be share with all |
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