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How do we help students record vocabulary

Page history last edited by sue annan 7 years, 6 months ago
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SueAnnan 2016-10-05T17:59:46 Who's around for #eltchat?
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:00:32 I am. Hi Sue #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:01:21 How do we help students record new vocabulary? Tonight's discussion on #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:01:41 @fionaljp Great. Good to see you #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:02:56 @SueAnnan Hi everyone #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:03:09 Our students are given little vocab books which they record new stuff in #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:03:25 @MConca16 Hello. Glad you're here #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:04:02 Hi all. what's the topic today? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:04:30 I'm not sure how much they learn from that though. They need to use it or lose it :-) #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:04:31 I think it’s a good idea to get learners to share their ideas on how they record and how important they feel it is #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:05:16 @SueAnnan #ELTchat how is vocab organized?Do you them any hints on how to do that effectively?
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:05:30 Do you get sts who never write anything down? I tear my hair out with them #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:06:00 @MConca16 Everyone seems to have a different system which works for them #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:06:21 @fionaljp #ELTchat adults tend to record any word they hear.I agree with Sue: is it good at all?
kamilaofprague 2016-10-05T18:06:25 Our students create topic related portfolios which they will later use for the exam prep #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:07:06 @kamilaofprague That's a good idea. Do they revisit them often? #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:07:55 @MConca16 I think yes, if it’s actively coming from them it’s a good starting place #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:08:04 @kamilaofprague #ELTchat exam vocab lists are often recommended for prep
kamilaofprague 2016-10-05T18:08:07 Hi everyone :-) I create a quizlet class for each student. We take turns adding sets for each lesson. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:08:46 @fionaljp @MConca16 MIne seem to end up with a mottley collection of random words, phrases etc. #ELTchat
nahoulster 2016-10-05T18:08:56 @SueAnnan Hi everyone #ELTchat, first time ELTchatting
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:09:19 @nahoulster Lovely to have to with us. Welcome #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:09:31 #eltchat I experimented with frayer models last year. They worked ok with YLs https://t.co/LDNbZPVwQh
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:09:35 #ELTchat that's handy and easy to resort to anytime https://t.co/EtbEw904L8
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:09:38 I’m wondering about Kahoot - I’ve downloaded the app but that’s it so far… #ELTchat
kamilaofprague 2016-10-05T18:09:45 @SueAnnan While we are on the topic, yes. They compare, use it for talks, etc. Later topics are expanded on. #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:10:11 It’s a start #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:11:06 @kamilaofprague My business students're better at doing that,the general ones don't really stay long enough to get into good habits #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:11:11 @fionaljp hey. Kahoot is really good. I like Plickers too, but limited wifi at the mo so can't use as much #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:12:23 @fionaljp I've recently downloaded Kahoot too but haven't had much time to mess around with it.#ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:12:40 I had a st. with a box for his vocab, he moved each week back when he had learnt the new words #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:12:51 @eltplanning Not heard of PLickers - great another one to investigate - is Cahoot useful for reviewing lexis? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:13:59 #eltchat do you allow any time to use apps/frames or similar to record new vocab in your lessons?
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:14:15 Do you give specific tips on how to record? #ELTChat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:14:22 @MConca16 @fionaljp if students record a word do you get them to look up/guess connected words in different word classes? #ELTchat
Sarah_TTrainer 2016-10-05T18:14:24 @eltplanning @SarahSmithELT me too! So pleased you both enjoyed #TfSonline.   Can't do #eltchat though. Mega long day for me. Next time!
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:14:57 I try to display vocab on board in whole sentences with pron features clearly marked.. Need to be more consistent with it though #eltchat
kamilaofprague 2016-10-05T18:15:32 @SueAnnan Wow. Mine keep writing down lists even though I say cards better. Suppose easier done. #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:15:50 @SueAnnan #ELTchat sounds good.The issue I have is that not everyone likes lists or writing https://t.co/8yy7iiLiN9 can we help these Ss?
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:16:00 @SarahSmithELT I like the whole sentences thing. Makes more logic than random words #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:16:24 @eltplanning @MConca16  Yes, I think once they start recording, you can encourage them to explore and organise #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:17:06 What do you do with Sts who take a photo of the board. IMO not the best way to remember #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:17:40 @SueAnnan @SarahSmithELT I agree.A student of mine keeps on recording on  the whole sentence on Whatsup with translation #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:17:41 @SueAnnan @SarahSmithELT Absolutely #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:18:42 #ELTChat https://t.co/7Vx9VGC7p9
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:19:00 @fionaljp @eltplanning topics, parts of speech, pictures, colours? #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:19:08 @SueAnnanI'm reading Schmitt's book on Vocab which talks about what it is to know a word.Seems more useful to see words in context #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:19:51 @SarahSmithELT @SueAnnan I agree and it seems that it isn't efficient to learn it in sets #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:20:20 @MConca16 @SueAnnan When learners start recording and sharing ideas it can encourage, but ultimately it’s got to come from them #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:21:45 @MConca16 @SueAnnan  I mean sharing individual, different ways of recording #ELTchat
kamilaofprague 2016-10-05T18:21:55 @MConca16 @fionaljp @eltplanning for Czech definitely colours to indicate 3genders. Sorry, teach both langs, hard to separate #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:22:30 @kamilaofprague @MConca16 @fionaljp @eltplanning I use colours for parts of speech #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:23:29 #ELTchat https://t.co/wLeR4f3RMs
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:23:34 @fionaljp can be. I've used Kahoot more for formative assessment though #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:24:05 @EAPstephen PHotos are no use if they never look at them again #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:25:02 Please remember the #ELTchat hashtag for your tweets :-)
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:25:31 @SueAnnan I applaud them - excellent idea #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:26:46 If you're asking students to record target language, do you have them record word families e.g. music, musical, musically etc? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:28:11 @SarahSmithELT I do with exam students #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:28:21 #eltchat how about New Vocab grids to go with each worksheet or after a speaking activity?Would that work?
kamilaofprague 2016-10-05T18:29:02 I have to go, still not done for the day. Really nice chat. Good night! #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:29:11 @SarahSmithELT yeah that's what I meant by word class. I get learners to keep a table to list the new word and derived words. Do u? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:29:21 @SarahSmithELT #ELTchat I do. I use raps, chants (when not too childish) anything that can help associate a word with something
Marisa_C 2016-10-05T18:29:37 Hello everyone so sorry to be late am marking like there is no tomorrow #ELTchat
elawassell 2016-10-05T18:29:52 via @ShellTerrell Frightful Learning! Halloween Activities and Resources: “Where there is no im... https://t.co/irHGhGBYpn #efl #eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:29:59 Had a guy today thumbing through his book to find a word. He had learned it days ago. hard to find #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:30:02 @SarahSmithELT NOTE: I'm not consistent enough with that though #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:30:19 @SueAnnan @kamilaofprague @MConca16 @eltplanning Isn’t this going into grammar though? Saw this recently:https://t.co/MZL569HcJz #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:31:28 @eltplanning I try to but like my boardwork, I'm not consistent with it. Need to incorporate this into my lesson planning #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:32:07 @fionaljp @SueAnnan @kamilaofprague @MConca16 'lexicalised grammar' and all that... #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:32:17 @fionaljp @kamilaofprague @MConca16 @eltplanning  Looks like a lot of work too #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-10-05T18:32:46 @SueAnnan @MConca16 sorry guys i still have tons to do i'm afraid! #ELTchat #happyworldteachersday all of you btw
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:34:03 @Marisa_C Thanks for the good wishes #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-10-05T18:34:19 You are such an angel!!! Will suggest some ideas in the slow burn #ELTchat xxx to all https://t.co/Nww8bx9X9X
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:35:19 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan #ELTchat Happy teachers' day
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:35:28 If sts don't write anything down - what is your response? #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:35:43 @SarahSmithELT Do you do any colour coding or anything for vocab and stuff on the board? #ELTchat
yearinthelifeof 2016-10-05T18:37:16 @ShellTerrell sayeth Frightful Learning! Halloween Activities and Resources: “Where there ... https://t.co/PtY51UJCpT #ELT #ELTchat #ESL
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:38:09 @SueAnnan #ELTchat I give them a reason to write it down.
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:38:51 @MConca16 such as? #ELTChat I've tried everything including standing over them, but nothing really works #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:38:54 @eltplanning Yes! got rainbow pens! I use colours to highlight word class and always use it to show liaison, weak forms stress etc #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:39:47 @SueAnnan #ELTchat Turn your worksheet over and write three words you remember you should know
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:40:17 @SarahSmithELT @eltplanning Great. I highlight the parts of the sentence especially complements and adverbials #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:40:38 @SueAnnan I encourage it. Pre-delta I was afraid of silence while they were scribbling down. Now I incorporate in all lesson stage!#ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:40:38 @SarahSmithELT ooooooh. I've started marking affixes in diff colours to show word building #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:41:02 @SueAnnan @MConca16 ask them? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:41:37 I suppose vocab is necessary for some and others don't think they will use it #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:41:53 Does anyone use any 'memory palace' type techniques? I get learners to make stories with vocab based on locations and stuff #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:42:13 @SarahSmithELT @SueAnnan #ELTchat same here.
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:42:15 @fionaljp @MConca16 Yep. Tried that? I get a shoulder shrug as response #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:42:53 @eltplanning nice idea! #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:43:56 @eltplanning I tried these with a group of Int Thai learners. They were surprised at what I asked them to do but it worked well! #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:44:31 @eltplanning Not sure how well it works long-term. There must be a study out there on that #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:45:21 @SarahSmithELT @eltplanning could you ask Peter Pun to share his tweets via hashtag, plse. We're getting one-sided conversations #ELTChat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:45:57 @eltplanning #ELTchat I ask them to make up stories using their records from previous lesson(s)
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:46:34 @SarahSmithELT yeah I'm not sure either. Experimented with it last term. Bit gimmicky but sts seem to respond to it #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:47:59 Do you do different things with adults and teens? #ELTchat
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:48:06 @SueAnnan @eltplanning that might be my fault! I think I'm replying quite late to stuff! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:48:38 @SarahSmithELT @eltplanning It's okay. It was tweetdeck #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:50:17 @fionaljp @MConca16 great thanks #ELTchat
FizzicsEd 2016-10-05T18:51:09 Tops tips for teaching via video conferencehttps://t.co/c4db1R3Zeo#edtech #eltchat #iste #disted https://t.co/NNOD5jUm6H
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:51:25 some interesting tools to try out here this evening #ELTchat
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:52:28 @SueAnnan @MConca16 Thanks for RT Sue- sorry, forgot #ELTchat hashtag!
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:52:33 @SueAnnan I give teens more time to record vocab by allowing them to draw a pic which they think will help them remember it. #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:52:59 @SueAnnan @fionaljp #ELTchat Record & process is crucial.As teachers we should encourage and allow time for that in the classroom
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:53:18 @SueAnnan No reason you can't do that with adults. I teach exams so often time isn't something we have much of! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:54:39 @SarahSmithELT Not sure if my adults would be up for drawing, full sentences is a good idea, so they would need more time for sure #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:54:55 RT @MConca16: @SueAnnan @fionaljp #ELTchat Record & process is crucial.As teachers we should encourage and allow time for that in the class…
SarahSmithELT 2016-10-05T18:54:58 Think it's crucial to increase learner autonomy by encouraging students to read and record vocab out of class  #eltchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:55:23 @SarahSmithELT @SueAnnan I focus much more on word families when I'm teaching exam stuff. V important for FCE #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:55:33 #ELTchat good idea https://t.co/2jNUAXnehd
EAPstephen 2016-10-05T18:56:28 @SueAnnan worst case scenario, they write nothing but you've 5 mins of peace. #ELTchat
eltplanning 2016-10-05T18:56:36 @SarahSmithELT gamified stuff helps with that, well, for some learners anyway  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:56:45 We only have a few minutes left of this chat, but would some kind person like to write a summary? #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:56:48 #ELTchat Don't know about you but it's a lot easier to guide adults in this process whereas with teens I struggle to teach them how to learn
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:57:57 @MConca16 I actually have trouble with some of my adults, who think they know best #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:58:05 @SueAnnan #ELTchat I suggested this topic.Not sure what the rule is.Shal I do that?
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T18:58:53 @MConca16 Yes please. I'll send you the transcript and you can look at ideas on the blog for how to write the summary or I'll help #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T18:59:14 @SueAnnan #ELTchat exactly.Though as teachers we can use our experience to guide them to it 'best' or 'the most effectivley'
fionaljp 2016-10-05T18:59:37 @MConca16 Yes, didn’t realise you were talking about teens - very different.. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-10-05T19:00:01 Chat will now continue as a slow burn discussion for the next 24 hours. Enjoy adding your points of view and see you all next week #ELTchat
MConca16 2016-10-05T19:00:18 @SueAnnan #ELTchat Great, thanks.It would be my first time ;)

 

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