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Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T17:59:02 |
@SueAnnan @Hada_ELT Am here - ready to talk creative ways to assess oral skills at lower levels - #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T17:59:32 |
Always a useful thing to discuss #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T17:59:50 |
Me three :) #eltchat https://t.co/pKcpgxKx6p |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:00:37 |
Chiefs need Indians :-) #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:00:56 |
@SueAnnan Totally agree - assessment can be so tricky and assessing prod skills even trickier #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:01:01 |
Joining #ELTchat as well to suggest edtech solutions :-) |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:01:47 |
@Hada_ELT do you use a rubric? #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:02:57 |
We're chatting 'Creative ways to assess oral skills' on #eltchat now...who goes there? @ITLegge @GemmaELT @tesolmatthew @getgreatenglish |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:03:32 |
We're chatting 'Creative ways to assess oral skills' on #eltchat now...who goes there? @sandymillin @LizziePinard @muranava @naomishema |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:03:59 |
Anyone else joining #ELTchat today? |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:04:27 |
Hi from Spain :) #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:04:31 |
We're chatting 'Creative ways to assess oral skills' on #eltchat now...who goes there? @juliacphang @Ashowski @Sarah_TTrainer |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:04:43 |
@TeresaBestwick Hey. Good to see you #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:04:57 |
@TeresaBestwick Hola! #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:05:10 |
Hello @Hada_ELT @SueAnnan and @Marisa_C #ELTchat |
DavinnaArtibey |
2016-05-25T18:05:11 |
Hola from Ecuador! #eltchat |
Ashowski |
2016-05-25T18:05:13 |
@Hada_ELT @juliacphang @Sarah_TTrainer not me ^_^ #eltchat |
CELT_Athens |
2016-05-25T18:05:18 |
How do you assess your learners' oral skills at lower levels of instruction? Join #ELTchat NOW - we have just... https://t.co/FVuOIY7AHU |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:06:11 |
@SueAnnan I usually do but more to 'support' my Ss and give them an idea of what I'm looking for #eltchat Do you? |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:06:43 |
@DavinnaArtibey Hola Davina! Good to have you with us #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:06:43 |
@Hada_ELT I have been doing, as much for me as them #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:06:54 |
@TeresaBestwick @DavinnaArtibey @Ashowski @CELT_Athens @Hada_ELT @SueAnnan Hello and welcome #eltchat |
genevieve_EFL |
2016-05-25T18:07:14 |
Hi what happens at #eltchat? And when is it? |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:07:40 |
@genevieve_EFL Hi there we are on now #eltchat and for one hour every Wednesday same time |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:07:49 |
@genevieve_EFL It's starting now. Just join in with your comments and remember the hashtag #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:08:13 |
@genevieve_EFL It's now for an hour and we're chatting about a topic in English Language Teaching #eltchat Are you a teacher? Or an aspiring |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:08:27 |
How do you usually assess Ss' oral skills at lowel levels? Interview? #eltchat other ways? |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:09:03 |
We use Cambridge YLE exam materials for age 7 and up #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:09:04 |
@genevieve_EFL join us we are talking creative oral assessments for lower level students #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:09:10 |
@Marisa_C Usually role plays. I find it works better for my ss at that level #eltchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:09:15 |
RT @Marisa_C: How do you usually assess Ss' oral skills at lowel levels? Interview? #eltchat other ways? |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:09:35 |
Thinking specifically about exams, not in day-to-day lessons #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:09:51 |
@TeresaBestwick This by way of formal/official assessment? #eltchat or day-to-day |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:10:09 |
Oooh, hang on - "lower level" are we thinking age or ability? #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:10:16 |
@Sarah_TTrainer @Ashowski @juliacphang Aww..joys of mamahood. Have a good evening and chat next week hopefully #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:10:33 |
@Marisa_C Yep, formal assessment, twice a year #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:10:42 |
So we are talking abt a T's DAily assessment - informal as in monitoring a roleplay as @Hada_ELT says #eltchat or in some other way |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:10:53 |
@naomishema @sandymillin @LizziePinard @muranava Pity :( Catch you soon ##eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:11:31 |
I think formal is formal is formal - can we explore some other ways? #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:11:51 |
@TeresaBestwick @Marisa_C Do you use any other form of assessment throughout the term? #ELTchat |
AdeleRaemer |
2016-05-25T18:12:17 |
#ELTchat sorry again I can't join. Have a good one! |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:12:54 |
@AdeleRaemer Thank you #ELTchat |
DavinnaArtibey |
2016-05-25T18:13:08 |
For exams, I usually interview the students individually or put them in pairs and have them interview each other with prompts. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:13:28 |
Getting Students to speak into a Voki (e.g. tell a story or say who they are and what they do) is one way #eltchat more voice tools next |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:13:37 |
I like stories they prepare at home & present to the class - someone showed me an app but can't remember the name. I do it wth pics #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:13:41 |
I like speed dating when they are new or new ish #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:13:49 |
@Hada_ELT @Marisa_C I think I assess learners when I hear them speak during class activities, there are less "formal" moments #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:13:59 |
@DavinnaArtibey sure - we are thinking like let's be more daring and creative! :-D #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:14:25 |
@SueAnnan How do you assess their proficiency? Against a rubric? #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:14:56 |
I have lots of questions on lollipop sticks - great for fast finishers too. Good for practising personal info questions #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:15:20 |
@Hada_ELT not if they aren't doing exams #ELTchat |
genevieve_EFL |
2016-05-25T18:16:24 |
They promote automaticity but it depends on the level #eltchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:17:05 |
@TeresaBestwick What's that? #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:17:51 |
@durnazzz uses an app where they create a story and record themselves. What's the name again? #ELTchat https://t.co/3SrquutJsb |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:18:17 |
@genevieve_EFL sure but with YL's it may be just do sth that's fun to do and motivating or easy enough #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:18:52 |
@CompareEdu Hi there! We're having an #eltchat until 8pm BST so please hold your tweets using this hashtag until after then please. Cheers |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:19:21 |
@CompareEdu can you NOT Tweet during our #ELTchat pls? Looks delIBERATE! |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:20:03 |
@Hada_ELT @CompareEdu they do it all the time - VERY AGGRESSIVE promo! #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:20:08 |
@Hada_ELT Just trying to find a pic now. You can buy lollipop sticks in craft shops and then write on them #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:20:36 |
@Marisa_C @CompareEdu Come to think of it, ur right, it's a weekly thing! Not cool :( #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:20:55 |
Here are some children on voki ike this one here https://t.co/2dZrpep29v @ShellTerrell made this #ELTchat #ELTchat via @ShellTerrell |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:21:15 |
@TeresaBestwick Oh yes! I know the ones you mean. How does it work though..in terms of assessment? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:21:54 |
@sheena1667 Hi - put #ELTchat in the search box and SAVE YOUR search - make sure you type #ELTchat on EVERY tweet! |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:22:35 |
@Hada_ELT It's a way to check understanding of Q, fluency and accuracy of response. Covers topics they've done in class #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:22:35 |
what about low level adults? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:24:33 |
Good question - I think early on I would start with playacting before moving to roleplay & improvisation #ELTchat https://t.co/hThZEHi0X7 |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:25:28 |
If they are genuine beginners, there's little to start with :-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:25:45 |
Also simple mingling activities are a good point to start from - the classic 'find someone who' sooo versatile!!!! #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:27:39 |
Story creator is the app I mentioned earlier. Ss prepare a story and record over pics, send it to you and you can feedback #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:28:13 |
There are two more online tools which I think get Ss to be very creative Voicethread and Voxopop - anyone familiar with them? #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:28:34 |
The feedback can be recorded and sent back to the ss. #ELTchat https://t.co/iCSn14ccKU |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:28:36 |
@Marisa_C Yes. I like both of them #ELTchat |
LaraCvanti |
2016-05-25T18:29:02 |
@Marisa_C have never heard of them, checking them out now! #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:29:03 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/HwTeRUImvi |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:29:12 |
@LaraCvanti Yes, don't see why not - nice idea - a jar with questions :-) #ELTchat https://t.co/rFCQAfmkWU |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:29:51 |
@LaraCvanti will find a couple of good links #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:29:57 |
@durnazzz Thx lovely! Join our chat - use the #eltchat hashtag - we're discussing Assessing oral with lower level Ss |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:30:13 |
"Find someone who" can be challenging for lower levels - question formation (argh!). I tweaked it slightly https://t.co/hz1utsNwEw #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:30:33 |
Getting them to share photos on their phones is a natural way to hear them speaking too #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:30:56 |
@Hada_ELT in class i use 20 pics on a ppt - timed and play picture karaoke - they say anything they like maybe make a story #eltchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:31:57 |
@Marisa_C PK 20x20 style? #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:32:05 |
RT @Marisa_C: @Hada_ELT in class i use 20 pics on a ppt - timed and play picture karaoke - they say anything they like maybe make a story #… |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:32:14 |
@Hada_ELT yes exactement!!! #ELTchat |
TeresaBestwick |
2016-05-25T18:32:38 |
Sorry, can't stay til the end toninht...look forward to reading the rest though! xxx #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:33:04 |
Here is a lovely scaffolding for a story telling activity which is fos voxopop bt can be used anyway https://t.co/q833MhqYsE #ELTchat |
DavinnaArtibey |
2016-05-25T18:33:30 |
I've had Ss read a paragraph on What's App or Vocaroo and send the recording to me. Both are user-friendly. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:34:36 |
Here is a story on voxopop with @NikPeachey https://t.co/lW2GuvBUtC #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:35:04 |
@elawassell @yearinthelifeof #ELTChat in progress #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:36:20 |
Here is another chain story #eltchat https://t.co/zlUlTMVcqX |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:36:41 |
Lovely idea #eltchat https://t.co/FZt91QbESE |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:36:55 |
#ELTchat https://t.co/piJCTqr2hl |
azoz2268351 |
2016-05-25T18:37:21 |
#ELTchat I struggle with some ss as they fear making mistakes... |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:38:29 |
This fear of errors and ridicule is a highly negative factor in improving oral skills #eltchat https://t.co/TWIl6pafDC |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:38:34 |
@azoz2268351 This is definitely a problem but encouraging them and reminding them they're not mistakes but 'learning steps' helps #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:39:05 |
@azoz2268351 It is important that the students dont feel judged #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:40:04 |
@azoz2268351 Definitely and takes a lot of reassurance and confidence building form the T. Needs to be worked on from the word go #ELTchat |
MarkWordSmith |
2016-05-25T18:40:23 |
Or speed flatmate finding @SueAnnan #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:40:45 |
@MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan How does that go? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:40:54 |
any speed stuff good thanks for reminder #eltchat https://t.co/SxdVygb61M |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:41:34 |
@Hada_ELT @MarkWordSmith LOL try finding someone you could live with #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:41:51 |
@Hada_ELT @MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan like speed dating :-D #ELTchat |
LaraCvanti |
2016-05-25T18:42:36 |
@Marisa_C yet so natural, particularly when they come from public schools where 'to be' or translation are still strong #ELTchat |
GemmaELT |
2016-05-25T18:42:52 |
@Hada_ELT @ITLegge @tesolmatthew @getgreatenglish Hi, just stepped into the house. Will try and join you next week :( sorry #eltchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:43:48 |
@Marisa_C @MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan Yeah I get that, but speed flatmates?! I personally love the onion, all time winning activity #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:43:49 |
So the first factor to get over is fear. Then lack of language... #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:44:34 |
@GemmaELT @ITLegge @tesolmatthew @getgreatenglish Thanks for letting us know. Have a chilled evening.. tc #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:45:08 |
to eliminate fear - start with good class dynamics activs early on; then talk about activity objectives #eltchat https://t.co/nFMib9lOS5 |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:45:17 |
@SueAnnan The old affective filter is definitely at play here - in some contexts more than others. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:45:54 |
To feed in language: very careful scaffolding and priming work - #eltchat boost confidence |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:46:06 |
@SueAnnan Group cohesion and learner skills also go a long way #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:46:31 |
@Hada_ELT @MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan could be speed anything #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:46:36 |
@Hada_ELT Yes. Very different in a 1-2-1 scenario #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:48:23 |
I teach all women classes - I wonder if tht helps as they generally quickly get over inhibitions and 'fear #ELTchat https://t.co/nTBDjbhQPe |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:49:50 |
I seem to have had a few 1-2-1, and group beginners recently #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:51:09 |
@SueAnnan My current absolute beginners love standing in front of the class to speak. The speech is ltd but they love it #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:51:56 |
@Hada_ELT @SueAnnan What do you ask them to talk about? #eltchat - it's prepared right? |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:53:11 |
Has everyone left? #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:53:28 |
My Low-level st at the moment is a young adult from Qatar. He needs vocab and confidence to talk about anything other than camels #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:53:29 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan Yes mostly prepared - generally basic personal info and likes and dislikes, the clothes they're wearing etc. #ELTchat |
LaraCvanti |
2016-05-25T18:53:50 |
@Marisa_C LOL I had the same impression #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:54:25 |
@Marisa_C I think twitter is on a go- slow #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:54:31 |
@SueAnnan awwww sweet... No doubt he'll soon find other things to talk about in your next of the woods )) #ELTchat |
LaraCvanti |
2016-05-25T18:54:38 |
are translations from a song or poem or story of Ss's mother tongue good for oral assessment? #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:54:51 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Yep! #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:55:30 |
@LaraCvanti What would you be testing? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:55:34 |
@Hada_ELT I hope so. His Camels are the light of his life-really :-) #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:55:58 |
@SueAnnan Wow! #ELTchat |
ELTchat |
2016-05-25T18:55:58 |
@ChatSalad you need to change our time & Mr @Nurph we are on every week at 19.00 BST #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:56:49 |
@muranava Thanks Mura - just finishing of now... )) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:56:58 |
@LaraCvanti I don't see why not, as long as that is in the prep stage and not being consulted while speaking #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T18:57:17 |
We are coming up to the end of our chat. Would anyone like to write the summary? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T18:57:56 |
RT @SueAnnan: We are coming up to the end of our chat. Would anyone like to write the summary? #ELTchat |
LaraCvanti |
2016-05-25T18:59:31 |
@Marisa_C usually they present as freely as they can but some are still too afraid of 'speaking English' so I let them check #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T18:59:40 |
Seems like time's up and I can't se anyone?? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T19:00:08 |
Well...!!! #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T19:00:32 |
@SueAnnan Loool! #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:00:43 |
@LaraCvanti A good trick is to prep sth and allow Ss to keep notes but check notes ONLY if desperate! #ELTchat |
MarkWordSmith |
2016-05-25T19:00:45 |
@Hada_ELT Sorry! Got dragged away! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-05-25T19:01:25 |
@Hada_ELT @Marisa_C Not very much to write I think #ELTchat |
Hada_ELT |
2016-05-25T19:01:54 |
Time to say bye then. Until next time....cherio )) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:02:41 |
@SueAnnan true not much #eltchat but we are moving to new premises - otherwise I'd offer! :-( |
MarkWordSmith |
2016-05-25T19:04:01 |
Thanks all. Sorry I was in and out. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:04:24 |
@LaraCvanti there's a great activity - strip story (they don't strip!!!) each st memorizes ONE sentence & put togthr frm memory #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:04:54 |
@MarkWordSmith no worries - catch you next week :-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:05:44 |
@LaraCvanti if the story has a puzzle or a teaser at the end that's your freer activity #eltchat problem solving so to speak |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:07:19 |
@LaraCvanti i think creativity and formal testing have little in common #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:08:39 |
But we can be creative in assessing Ss INformally, eg, in weekly checkpoints or bi-weekly or sth? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:09:25 |
I MUST stop - @SueAnnan has just said she will do the summary !! Thank you #eltchat angel :-) |
Marisa_C |
2016-05-25T19:10:27 |
See you all next week - thanks so much for joining #ELTchat |
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