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Assessing the spoken skills of low-level learners

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Marisa_C 2016-05-25T17:59:02 @SueAnnan @Hada_ELT Am here - ready to talk creative ways to assess oral skills at lower levels - #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T17:59:32 Always a useful thing to discuss #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T17:59:50 Me three :) #eltchat https://t.co/pKcpgxKx6p
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:00:37 Chiefs need Indians :-) #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:00:56 @SueAnnan Totally agree - assessment can be so tricky and assessing prod skills even trickier #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:01:01 Joining #ELTchat as well to suggest edtech solutions :-)
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:01:47 @Hada_ELT do you use a rubric? #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:02:57 We're chatting 'Creative ways to assess oral skills' on #eltchat now...who goes there? @ITLegge @GemmaELT @tesolmatthew @getgreatenglish
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:03:32 We're chatting 'Creative ways to assess oral skills' on #eltchat now...who goes there? @sandymillin @LizziePinard @muranava @naomishema
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:03:59 Anyone else joining #ELTchat today?
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:04:27 Hi from Spain :) #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:04:31 We're chatting 'Creative ways to assess oral skills' on #eltchat now...who goes there? @juliacphang @Ashowski @Sarah_TTrainer
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:04:43 @TeresaBestwick Hey. Good to see you #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:04:57 @TeresaBestwick Hola! #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:05:10 Hello @Hada_ELT @SueAnnan and @Marisa_C  #ELTchat
DavinnaArtibey 2016-05-25T18:05:11 Hola from Ecuador! #eltchat
Ashowski 2016-05-25T18:05:13 @Hada_ELT @juliacphang @Sarah_TTrainer not me ^_^ #eltchat
CELT_Athens 2016-05-25T18:05:18 How do you assess your learners' oral skills at lower levels of instruction? Join #ELTchat NOW - we have just... https://t.co/FVuOIY7AHU
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:06:11 @SueAnnan I usually do but more to 'support' my Ss and give them an idea of what I'm looking for  #eltchat Do you?
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:06:43 @DavinnaArtibey Hola Davina! Good to have you with us #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:06:43 @Hada_ELT I have been doing, as much for me as them #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:06:54 @TeresaBestwick @DavinnaArtibey @Ashowski @CELT_Athens @Hada_ELT @SueAnnan  Hello and welcome #eltchat
genevieve_EFL 2016-05-25T18:07:14 Hi what happens at #eltchat? And when is it?
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:07:40 @genevieve_EFL Hi there we are on now #eltchat and for one hour every Wednesday same time
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:07:49 @genevieve_EFL It's starting now. Just join in with your comments and remember the hashtag #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:08:13 @genevieve_EFL It's now for an hour and we're chatting about a topic in English Language Teaching #eltchat Are you a teacher? Or an aspiring
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:08:27 How do you usually assess Ss' oral skills at lowel levels? Interview? #eltchat other ways?
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:09:03 We use Cambridge YLE exam materials for age 7 and up #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:09:04 @genevieve_EFL join us we are talking creative oral assessments for lower level students #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:09:10 @Marisa_C Usually role plays. I find it works better for my ss at that level #eltchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:09:15 RT @Marisa_C: How do you usually assess Ss' oral skills at lowel levels? Interview? #eltchat other ways?
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:09:35 Thinking specifically about exams, not in day-to-day lessons #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:09:51 @TeresaBestwick This by way of formal/official assessment? #eltchat or day-to-day
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:10:09 Oooh, hang on - "lower level" are we thinking age or ability? #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:10:16 @Sarah_TTrainer @Ashowski @juliacphang Aww..joys of mamahood. Have a good evening and chat next week hopefully #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:10:33 @Marisa_C Yep, formal assessment, twice a year #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:10:42 So we are talking abt a T's DAily assessment - informal as in monitoring a roleplay as @Hada_ELT says #eltchat or in some other way
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:10:53 @naomishema @sandymillin @LizziePinard @muranava Pity :( Catch you soon ##eltchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:11:31 I think formal is formal is formal - can we explore some other ways? #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:11:51 @TeresaBestwick @Marisa_C Do you use any other form of assessment throughout the term? #ELTchat
AdeleRaemer 2016-05-25T18:12:17 #ELTchat sorry again I can't join. Have a good one!
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:12:54 @AdeleRaemer Thank you #ELTchat
DavinnaArtibey 2016-05-25T18:13:08 For exams, I usually interview the students individually or put them in pairs and have them interview each other with prompts. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:13:28 Getting Students to speak into a Voki (e.g. tell a story or say who they are and what they do) is one way #eltchat more voice tools next
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:13:37 I like stories they prepare at home & present to the class - someone showed me an app but can't remember the name. I do it wth pics #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:13:41 I like speed dating when they are new or new ish #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:13:49 @Hada_ELT @Marisa_C I think I assess learners when I hear them speak during class activities, there are less "formal" moments #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:13:59 @DavinnaArtibey sure - we are thinking like let's be more daring and creative! :-D #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:14:25 @SueAnnan How do you assess their proficiency? Against a rubric? #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:14:56 I have lots of questions on lollipop sticks - great for fast finishers too.  Good for practising personal info questions #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:15:20 @Hada_ELT not if they aren't doing exams #ELTchat
genevieve_EFL 2016-05-25T18:16:24 They promote automaticity but it depends on the level #eltchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:17:05 @TeresaBestwick What's that? #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:17:51 @durnazzz uses an app where they create a story and record themselves. What's the name again? #ELTchat  https://t.co/3SrquutJsb
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:18:17 @genevieve_EFL sure but with YL's it may be just do sth that's fun to do and motivating or easy enough #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:18:52 @CompareEdu Hi there! We're having an #eltchat until 8pm BST so please hold your tweets using this hashtag until after then please. Cheers
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:19:21 @CompareEdu can you NOT Tweet during our #ELTchat pls? Looks delIBERATE!
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:20:03 @Hada_ELT @CompareEdu they do it all the time - VERY AGGRESSIVE promo! #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:20:08 @Hada_ELT Just trying to find a pic now.  You can buy lollipop sticks in craft shops and then write on them #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:20:36 @Marisa_C @CompareEdu Come to think of it, ur right, it's a weekly thing! Not cool :( #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:20:55 Here are some children on voki ike this one here https://t.co/2dZrpep29v  @ShellTerrell  made this #ELTchat  #ELTchat via @ShellTerrell
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:21:15 @TeresaBestwick Oh yes! I know the ones you mean. How does it work though..in terms of assessment? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:21:54 @sheena1667 Hi - put #ELTchat in the search box and SAVE YOUR search - make sure you type #ELTchat on EVERY tweet!
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:22:35 @Hada_ELT It's a way to check understanding of Q, fluency and accuracy of response.  Covers topics they've done in class #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:22:35 what about low level adults? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:24:33 Good question - I think early on I would start with playacting before moving to roleplay & improvisation #ELTchat  https://t.co/hThZEHi0X7
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:25:28 If they are genuine beginners, there's little to start with :-) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:25:45 Also simple mingling activities are a good point to start from - the classic 'find someone who' sooo versatile!!!! #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:27:39 Story creator is the app I mentioned earlier. Ss prepare a story and record over pics, send it to you and you can feedback #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:28:13 There are two more online tools which I think get Ss to be very creative Voicethread and Voxopop - anyone familiar with them? #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:28:34 The feedback can be recorded and sent back to the ss. #ELTchat  https://t.co/iCSn14ccKU
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:28:36 @Marisa_C Yes. I like both of them #ELTchat
LaraCvanti 2016-05-25T18:29:02 @Marisa_C have never heard of them, checking them out now! #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:29:03 #ELTchat  https://t.co/HwTeRUImvi
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:29:12 @LaraCvanti Yes, don't see why not - nice idea - a jar with questions :-) #ELTchat  https://t.co/rFCQAfmkWU
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:29:51 @LaraCvanti will find a couple of good links #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:29:57 @durnazzz Thx lovely! Join our chat - use the #eltchat hashtag - we're discussing Assessing oral with lower level Ss
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:30:13 "Find someone who" can be challenging for lower levels - question formation (argh!). I tweaked it slightly https://t.co/hz1utsNwEw #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:30:33 Getting them to share photos on their phones is a natural way to hear them speaking too #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:30:56 @Hada_ELT in class i use 20 pics on a ppt - timed and play picture karaoke - they say anything they like maybe make a story #eltchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:31:57 @Marisa_C PK 20x20 style? #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:32:05 RT @Marisa_C: @Hada_ELT in class i use 20 pics on a ppt - timed and play picture karaoke - they say anything they like maybe make a story #…
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:32:14 @Hada_ELT yes exactement!!! #ELTchat
TeresaBestwick 2016-05-25T18:32:38 Sorry, can't stay til the end toninht...look forward to reading the rest though! xxx #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:33:04 Here is a lovely scaffolding for a story telling activity which is fos voxopop bt can be used anyway https://t.co/q833MhqYsE #ELTchat
DavinnaArtibey 2016-05-25T18:33:30 I've had Ss read a paragraph on What's App or Vocaroo and send the recording to me. Both are user-friendly. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:34:36 Here is a story on voxopop with @NikPeachey https://t.co/lW2GuvBUtC #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:35:04 @elawassell @yearinthelifeof #ELTChat in progress #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:36:20 Here is another chain story #eltchat https://t.co/zlUlTMVcqX
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:36:41 Lovely idea #eltchat  https://t.co/FZt91QbESE
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:36:55 #ELTchat  https://t.co/piJCTqr2hl
azoz2268351 2016-05-25T18:37:21 #ELTchat I struggle with some ss as they fear making mistakes...
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:38:29 This fear of errors and ridicule is a highly negative factor in improving oral skills #eltchat  https://t.co/TWIl6pafDC
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:38:34 @azoz2268351 This is definitely a problem but encouraging them and reminding them they're not mistakes but 'learning steps' helps #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:39:05 @azoz2268351 It is important that the students dont feel judged #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:40:04 @azoz2268351 Definitely and takes a lot of reassurance and confidence building form the T. Needs to be worked on from the word go #ELTchat
MarkWordSmith 2016-05-25T18:40:23 Or speed flatmate finding @SueAnnan #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:40:45 @MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan How does that go? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:40:54 any speed stuff good thanks for reminder #eltchat https://t.co/SxdVygb61M
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:41:34 @Hada_ELT @MarkWordSmith  LOL try finding someone you could live with #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:41:51 @Hada_ELT @MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan like speed dating :-D #ELTchat
LaraCvanti 2016-05-25T18:42:36 @Marisa_C yet so natural, particularly when they come from public schools where 'to be' or translation are still strong #ELTchat
GemmaELT 2016-05-25T18:42:52 @Hada_ELT @ITLegge @tesolmatthew @getgreatenglish Hi, just stepped into the house. Will  try and join you next week :( sorry #eltchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:43:48 @Marisa_C @MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan Yeah I get that, but speed flatmates?! I personally love the onion, all  time winning activity #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:43:49 So the first factor to get over is fear. Then lack of language... #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:44:34 @GemmaELT @ITLegge @tesolmatthew @getgreatenglish Thanks for letting us know. Have a chilled evening.. tc #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:45:08 to eliminate fear - start with good class dynamics activs early on; then talk about activity objectives #eltchat  https://t.co/nFMib9lOS5
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:45:17 @SueAnnan The old affective filter is definitely at play here - in some contexts more than others. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:45:54 To feed in language: very careful scaffolding and priming work - #eltchat boost confidence
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:46:06 @SueAnnan Group cohesion and learner skills also go a long way #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:46:31 @Hada_ELT @MarkWordSmith @SueAnnan could be speed anything #eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:46:36 @Hada_ELT Yes. Very different in a 1-2-1 scenario #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:48:23 I teach all women classes - I wonder if tht helps as they generally quickly get over inhibitions and 'fear #ELTchat  https://t.co/nTBDjbhQPe
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:49:50 I seem to have had a few 1-2-1, and group beginners recently #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:51:09 @SueAnnan My current absolute beginners love standing in front of the class to speak. The speech is ltd but they love it #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:51:56 @Hada_ELT @SueAnnan What do you ask them to talk about? #eltchat - it's prepared right?
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:53:11 Has everyone left? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:53:28 My Low-level st  at the moment is a young adult from Qatar. He needs vocab and confidence to talk about anything other than camels #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:53:29 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Yes mostly prepared - generally basic personal info and likes and dislikes, the clothes they're wearing etc. #ELTchat
LaraCvanti 2016-05-25T18:53:50 @Marisa_C LOL I had the same impression #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:54:25 @Marisa_C I think twitter is on a go- slow #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:54:31 @SueAnnan awwww sweet... No doubt he'll soon find other things to talk about in your next of the woods )) #ELTchat
LaraCvanti 2016-05-25T18:54:38 are translations from a song or poem or story of Ss's mother tongue good for oral assessment? #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:54:51 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Yep! #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:55:30 @LaraCvanti What would you be testing?  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:55:34 @Hada_ELT I hope so. His Camels are the light of his life-really :-)  #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:55:58 @SueAnnan Wow! #ELTchat
ELTchat 2016-05-25T18:55:58 @ChatSalad you need to change our time & Mr @Nurph we are on every week at 19.00 BST #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:56:49 @muranava Thanks Mura - just finishing of now... )) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:56:58 @LaraCvanti I don't see why not, as long as that is in the prep stage and not being consulted while speaking #eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T18:57:17 We are coming up to the end of our chat. Would anyone like to write the summary? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T18:57:56 RT @SueAnnan: We are coming up to the end of our chat. Would anyone like to write the summary? #ELTchat
LaraCvanti 2016-05-25T18:59:31 @Marisa_C usually they present as freely as they can but some are still too afraid of 'speaking English' so I let them check #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T18:59:40 Seems like time's up and I can't se anyone?? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T19:00:08 Well...!!! #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T19:00:32 @SueAnnan Loool! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:00:43 @LaraCvanti A good trick is to prep sth and allow Ss to keep notes but check notes ONLY  if desperate! #ELTchat
MarkWordSmith 2016-05-25T19:00:45 @Hada_ELT Sorry! Got dragged away! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-05-25T19:01:25 @Hada_ELT @Marisa_C Not very much to write I think #ELTchat
Hada_ELT 2016-05-25T19:01:54 Time to say bye then. Until next time....cherio )) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:02:41 @SueAnnan true not much #eltchat but we are moving to new premises - otherwise I'd offer! :-(
MarkWordSmith 2016-05-25T19:04:01 Thanks all.  Sorry I was in and out. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:04:24 @LaraCvanti  there's a great activity - strip story (they don't strip!!!) each st memorizes ONE sentence & put togthr frm memory #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:04:54 @MarkWordSmith no worries  - catch you next week :-) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:05:44 @LaraCvanti if the story has a puzzle or a teaser at the end that's your freer activity #eltchat problem solving so to speak
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:07:19 @LaraCvanti i think creativity and formal testing have little in common #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:08:39 But we can be creative in assessing Ss INformally, eg, in weekly checkpoints or bi-weekly or sth? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:09:25 I MUST stop - @SueAnnan has just said she will do the summary !! Thank you #eltchat  angel :-)
Marisa_C 2016-05-25T19:10:27 See you all next week - thanks so much for joining #ELTchat

 

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