| User Name |
Universal Time Stamp |
Text |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T19:57:18 |
RT @SueAnnan: #ELTChat will begin in 4 minutes. Please refrain from posting anything unconnected to the discussion for the next hour. Thank… |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T19:59:17 |
@SueAnnan It's almost time and the topic is.....? #ELTchat https://t.co/ynK01d5LeW |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:00:20 |
Teaching strategies to enhance morals and values in Students :-)#ELTChat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:00:48 |
Hello #ELTchat people! :-) |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:01:28 |
Hi Marisa and Angelos. At least we mods can have a chat #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:01:45 |
@SueAnnan That's a tall order of a topic #Eltchat - anyone care to discuss morals and values`? |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:02:20 |
Whose morals and whose values is my first question #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:02:44 |
@Marisa_C and how old are the students? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:03:10 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C I would much rather not - not in the spirit in which the topic was set I think #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:03:49 |
@SueAnnan Well let's see if we have any takers first shall we #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:04:41 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan Where's everyone tonight? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:06:12 |
No I think people are tetchy abt teaching morals - may be some values, such as peace and kindness etc #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:07:08 |
six minutes in- no takers? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:07:08 |
@Marisa_C It could get very patronising, I guess. #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:08:57 |
Teaching values very much part of most courses for young learners now #eltchat (Hi all - just passing by) |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:09:36 |
@patjack67 Hi Patrick - Do you mean the 'Life Skills' trend? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:09:44 |
@patjack67 Hi Pat. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:09:49 |
@patjack67 Values yes but morals seems a bit dangerous - and whose values also at issue #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:10:28 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan threaded discussion on facebook topic wa a good one but did not get voted #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:10:58 |
@Marisa_C What's the difference between morals and values? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:11:02 |
@patjack67 three mods one passer by - this has NEVER happened! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:11:47 |
perhaps everyone is at TESOL? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:12:13 |
@patjack67 I guess I think of things to do with religion, attitudes to marriage, relationship and sex, god, etc. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:12:39 |
@SueAnnan True - Same thing happened at the Irish one. #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:13:03 |
@angelos_bollas Well in the past two projects, explicit teaching of things like Be friendly, Put away your things, Respect people #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:14:02 |
@patjack67 @angelos_bollas a sens of what is good and bad... #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:14:17 |
@Marisa_C OK, so largely not matters covered by your average primary course! #ELTchat! |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:14:18 |
Teaching morals and values? Ooh, a difficult one! That could end up sounding preachy, or even ethnocentric, could it not? #eltchat - Chia |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:14:53 |
@Marisa_C honoured to be so well moderated! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:15:07 |
@ETprofessional indeed very touchy topic - not really one i thought people would vote on #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:15:47 |
@patjack67 As an adult learner, I wouldn't enjoy being taught about morales through the use of imperatives #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:16:35 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas With YLs the values teaching is usually led by the stories. Not sure about older people - debate? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:16:50 |
indeed with Chia 3/2 but I see a reluctance in all of us (westerners maybe?) #eltchat - is it our job? https://t.co/Ss6HgE5oS6 |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:17:12 |
@Marisa_C @ETprofessional someone was driving this topic hard earlier in the week and asking people to vote for it #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:17:22 |
@patjack67 @Marisa_C Storrytelling - helps with so many aspects #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:17:30 |
@patjack67 but if you look at PARSNIPS and avoiding them all in there anyway #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:17:34 |
@Marisa_C I suppose teaching critical thinking skills could encompass teaching morals and values in a way? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:17:43 |
@ETprofessional agree! #eltchat |
| BusinessEUK |
2016-04-06T20:18:42 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C And is that someone here tonight?#eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:19:09 |
@BusinessEUK @Marisa_C of course not! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:19:15 |
So, should this area be avoided? Should there be some kind of training for the teacher? #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:19:24 |
@ETprofessional For YLs preachy not a problem and as for ethnocentric - well there are basic global values (I think so, anyway) #ELTchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:19:30 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Oops sorry that was me as well…tweeted from the wrong account! Yikes! #eltchat - Chia |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:19:45 |
So ppl voted for it but you are not here to discuss it #eltchat great! https://t.co/ptD8cr6sPV |
| ELTchat |
2016-04-06T20:20:25 |
#ELTCHAT (OK ME TOO) https://t.co/YnYdnmlJgL |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:21:05 |
should we knock this topic on the head? #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:21:08 |
@patjack67 Like honesty…respect, etc? Funny when I actively think about values, I just think of things one shouldn’t do! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:21:42 |
@ETprofessional @patjack67 Same here.. Don't do this.. Don't treat others like... funny indeed #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:22:10 |
@SueAnnan What a pity…I always manage to miss #eltchat and was so happy I made it today! - Chia |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:23:03 |
We have been convinced theat we must not be political creatures in the classroom - which cannot be done fully of course #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:23:38 |
I suppose being strict about respect among classmates in the classroom is part of teaching morals and values, no? #eltchat |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:24:08 |
RT @patjack67: Teaching values very much part of most courses for young learners now #eltchat (Hi all - just passing by) |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:24:18 |
@ETprofessional Be helpful, eat healthy, work together etc etc These are things that can be part of our teaching at any age surely #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:24:39 |
@ETprofessional we could have a chat about values - I think case studies and problem solving within a role or attitude are useful #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:25:00 |
@Marisa_C How could we not?Ts are humans and learning involves interaction with each other - 1/2 #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:25:20 |
@patjack67 @ETprofessional Agree Peace Education includes a lot of values as well doesn't it #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:25:36 |
@Marisa_C Some times I believe that all the 'Do not talk about...' to the Ts were invented by ignorant school owners 2/2 #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:25:48 |
@angelos_bollas @ETprofessional The challenge is to present values in a positive way. The old Strewell Peter (sp?) days are over! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:26:21 |
Perhaps reading cases with dilemmas and decisions for adults #eltchat There used to be a wonderful feature in a biz magazine #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:26:31 |
@Marisa_C I think like with everything,context is so important. So yes,case studies and problem solving within a role is fantastic. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:27:20 |
I remember some great lessons including deep reading and leading to role simulations #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:28:13 |
I mean i remember designing them and teaching business groups #eltchat I suppose I was practising values with them? |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:29:06 |
My BE class were studying ethics today #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:29:12 |
I am getting hooked on this topic #eltchat :-D but u have all gone |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:29:36 |
@ETprofessional Absolutely. With YLs, everything has that wider extension to home/community/world. Modelling positive behaviour. #ELTchat |
| iatefl_ltsig |
2016-04-06T20:30:00 |
RT @patjack67: @ETprofessional Absolutely. With YLs, everything has that wider extension to home/community/world. Modelling positive behavi… |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:30:16 |
@patjack67 @ETprofessional So, at the end of the day, all Ting has a value Ting element in it, right? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:31:02 |
@angelos_bollas @patjack67 @ETprofessional I think so u cannot keep it clinically aseptic cos it gets really boring #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:32:05 |
@Marisa_C and mechanical - Is there a need, though, for Ts to become aware of this and make more sensible choices? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:32:19 |
Someone just retweeted this #Eltchat - how relevant is it to us do your think? https://t.co/Z1uvNdL1qn |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:32:33 |
A teacher should enhance morals & values in each and every lesson #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:33:27 |
@teachingright why? and how do you know the teacher's morals are right? #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:33:34 |
@angelos_bollas @ETprofessional Most 'topics' we teach can lead to some sort of values discussion #eltchat e.g shopping/environment/health |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:33:55 |
@teachingright Oh there she is! Hello we were almost ready to leave - what do YOU mean when u say morals and values? #eltchat |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:34:23 |
Ss should be taught respect, responsibility about ones behavior in class #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:35:32 |
@teachingright I think SS should not be taught what to do. SS should be taught to think before they do what they do #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:35:33 |
and how do you do that #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:37:08 |
@Marisa_C By being good models ourselves #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:37:50 |
@teachingright For YLs those can be broken down to spec. behaviours like tidiness or with adult Ss say not texting while driving #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:38:43 |
So role modelling method of instruction? Re What @patjack67 saying tho not always best approach #eltchat https://t.co/TcBuehigWZ |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:39:13 |
Pls use #ELTchat hashtag in all tweets https://t.co/BYiu5fU3s2 |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:39:20 |
Still, though, don't you feel uncomfortable labelling things as good/bad for students? #eltchat |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:39:46 |
#ELTchat each lesson should've a theme e.g. If we are teaching them s lesson about 'body parts' we canteach them how to value their health |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:40:08 |
@angelos_bollas @teachingright What age group are you thinking of? I find primary students are fine with clear values teaching #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:40:26 |
@patjack67 @teachingright I mean, I wouldn't like my teacher to say texting while driving is a bad thing to do. #eltchat |
| racheldaw18 |
2016-04-06T20:40:33 |
Hi lovely #ELTchat people - was just catching up, but a tricky topic! Not sure I have much to add I'm afraid but wanted to say hello :) |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:40:52 |
@patjack67 @angelos_bollas @teachingright I think so too - but adult learners already own values and principles - #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:40:54 |
@racheldaw18 Hello to you too :) #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:41:17 |
@angelos_bollas I feel very comfortable with modelling good and showing the effects of bad - e.g. turtle caught up in plastic #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:41:19 |
@racheldaw18 Hi Rachel. How's the new job? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:41:22 |
@racheldaw18 no worries - we didn't think we had much to add either #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:42:04 |
That's a horrid image to conjure up but see what you mean :-) #eltchat https://t.co/LWYtOp0MQz |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:42:17 |
@angelos_bollas No but it would make for an interesting class to look at car crash statistics or discuss the implications #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:42:40 |
@patjack67 Modelling and showing are truly useful - agree. It is telling/preaching that I disagree with #ELTchat |
| CenterStreet86 |
2016-04-06T20:43:34 |
RT @Marisa_C: We have been convinced theat we must not be political creatures in the classroom - which cannot be done fully of course #eltc… |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:44:00 |
@angelos_bollas Sure, the tone is important. Nobody likes being preached at. That's why fables are so great #ELTchat |
| languageeteach |
2016-04-06T20:44:13 |
ESOL in UK: have to promote values of democracy, rule of law, individual liberty and respect/tolerance of other faiths/religions #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:44:19 |
@patjack67 Fully agree! :) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:44:38 |
and u are also doing math at the same time #eltchat https://t.co/t5JZZO3WcS |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:45:02 |
RT @languageeteach: ESOL in UK: have to promote values of democracy, rule of law, individual liberty and respect/tolerance of other faiths/… |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:45:20 |
@teachingright @angelos_bollas Yes and I guess as you go up the ages 'teaching values' becomes 'considering issues' #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:45:28 |
@languageeteach But ESOL in UK is also about preparing SS to become proper (sic) UK citizens, no? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:45:32 |
Those are values I would be happy to promote - it's the implication of religious morals which bothers me #eltchat https://t.co/aDbVA1qQmT |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:45:40 |
RT @patjack67: @teachingright @angelos_bollas Yes and I guess as you go up the ages 'teaching values' becomes 'considering issues' #ELTchat |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:46:49 |
RT @languageeteach: ESOL in UK: have to promote values of democracy, rule of law, individual liberty and respect/tolerance of other faiths/… |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:47:17 |
Turtles in plastic and car crashes? Wow…I go away for a bit and it gets all sensational and exciting! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:47:40 |
@ETprofessional That's the beauty of it ;) lol #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T20:47:42 |
@Marisa_C Yes, i agree. Sensitive one. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:48:21 |
Stories seem to be useful - doesn't e-safety and digital citizenship fall into this ? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:48:33 |
@patjack67 @teachingright True - that's how most CBs would label it :) #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2016-04-06T20:48:55 |
@angelos_bollas Indeed: part of preparing them for this apparently. Big thing. Attend workshops all the time but none the wiser! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:49:01 |
Plagiarism, and copyright and cheating in exams #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:49:34 |
Fully agree - SS (and us) need to learn how to exist/act/behave/etc. online #eltchat https://t.co/YOmNpCxSFC |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:49:44 |
@ETprofessional Yeah - this turtle was driving down the road and texting her friend the octopus when...#ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:50:02 |
@patjack67 @ETprofessional a ha ha #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:50:35 |
@patjack67 @ETprofessional Actually, that's a great prompt actually for a storytelling/writing lesson #ELTchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:51:37 |
@angelos_bollas @teachingright For a good reason I think. (Sorry, I spend all my days immersed in CBs!) #ELTchat |
| ChrisPatrickF |
2016-04-06T20:52:32 |
RT @JoshSRound: Getting Teacher Recruitment Right https://t.co/dvq15Fb9YK #lamsig #eukmgt16 #eltchat #iatefl |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:53:56 |
@angelos_bollas @ETprofessional She wanted to borrow a few squid #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:55:06 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Don't mind whatever you decide - shd we announce that there will be an informal #eltchat from #IATEFL next week |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:55:28 |
@GlenysHanson Hi Glenys - I am also concerned about this, tbh. Yet, I think that we should teach a little bit of that too #eltchat |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:55:32 |
So do some people think we should avoid values completely? #ELTchat? |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-04-06T20:55:35 |
@angelos_bollas "SS (and us) need to learn how to exist/act/behave/etc. online" but is it rôle of English T to teach them that. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:56:45 |
#ELTchat - this is what ELT teachers would not do do in the western world https://t.co/bq3SKYtO8n |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-04-06T20:57:04 |
@angelos_bollas English teachers may perform other rôles than E teacher - but it should be clear that it's a different rôle. #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:57:06 |
@patjack67 There are schools that tell Ts not to talk about 'sensitive' issues at all #ELTchat - sad |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:57:09 |
@Marisa_C @languageeteach a tr can teach Ss religious morals by giving example from theirHoly Book'like prophets as role models #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:57:44 |
@GlenysHanson What if we talk about online or blended courses, though? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T20:57:59 |
@teachingright @Marisa_C @languageeteach NO! It is not our role #ELTchat I would feel seriously uncomfortable about this #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:58:05 |
@teachingright I am sorry but I am not sure #eltchat ppl really want to talk religion |
| patjack67 |
2016-04-06T20:58:41 |
#ELTchat Bye all - tsk I was heading up for a bath an hour ago!!! |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:58:41 |
@Marisa_C @teachingright Definitely a NO NO for me! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T20:58:52 |
In any case this #eltchat must end before it gets into deep waters - next week we are at #IATEFL good folks |
| teachingright |
2016-04-06T20:58:56 |
I need to know other strategies a teacher can use in/ out class to enhance morals #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2016-04-06T20:59:17 |
@teachingright @Marisa_C Isn't it more about being tolerant of other religions? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-04-06T20:59:19 |
@patjack67 If Ss want to talk about values (or poetry, or pushpin) it's their right to decide, not the teacher's. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T20:59:40 |
@teachingright I think you can google it and you'll find some relevant reading you can do after #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T21:00:03 |
#ELTchat indeed! fully agree https://t.co/q8NpVB54C4 |
| SueAnnan |
2016-04-06T21:00:23 |
Thanks for the few brave souls who made it tonight. See some of you next week at IATEFL. WE might manage an informal #ELTChat from there. |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T21:00:42 |
@patjack67 And the moral of this story is…don’t text octopuses? Or is it octopi? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T21:01:02 |
@GlenysHanson @patjack67 Sure - Yet, Ts' role to manage the classroom environment, too. Some feel uncomfortable, some not #eltchat |
| chiasuan |
2016-04-06T21:01:14 |
@patjack67 @angelos_bollas Too funny! #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
2016-04-06T21:01:14 |
@patjack67 @angelos_bollas Too funny! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-04-06T21:02:29 |
I think it's time to say goodnight at this point. #ELTchat - Stay tuned for an announcement re next week's chat. |
| Marisa_C |
2016-04-06T21:02:31 |
@angelos_bollas In any case we were here on time!!! #eltchat |
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