User Name |
Universal Time Stamp |
Text |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:01:26 |
Hi #ELTchat - Welcome all to another chat. https://t.co/rEDKfJRImL |
donaldjpaul |
2016-03-09T21:01:36 |
RT @Marisa_C: Are you interested in creating materials tailor made for your school? This is our topic today on #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:01:54 |
RT @Marisa_C: "How to create an ELT Publishing Team for a school" Have you done anything like that? Come join us to share your experience… |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:02:08 |
#mawsig members might be interested in joining tonight's #ELTchat https://t.co/OVf5tuR9ZE |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:02:40 |
@angelos_bollas true #ELTchat #mawsig |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:02:54 |
looks like we'll be chatting among ourselves #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:03:09 |
And here's our @Nurph chatroom: https://t.co/hPMtG9uVCx #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:03:32 |
On the other hand it looks like not even the person who set the question is here to #ELTchat grrrr |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:04:37 |
Who proposed this? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:05:36 |
@SueAnnan Eyyup Sabri Buyukpamukcu is the name... #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:05:51 |
Hi @GlenysHanson #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:05:53 |
@SueAnnan someone called Vero Ega #ELTchat |
ESOLLiz |
2016-03-09T21:06:39 |
Good evening! Looks like an interesting topic about which I know little... #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:07:03 |
@GlenysHanson Hi Glenys! :-) #ELTchat |
ELTAF_de |
2016-03-09T21:07:11 |
Hi #ELTchat followers, we offer #ELT workshops and newsletters from Germany's heart! https://t.co/3AQ4pg7rZb |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:07:20 |
hi am in nurph - am nuprhing and seeking inspiration to stay here #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:07:22 |
@ESOLLiz Hello Liz - Welcome #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:08:01 |
I have been involved in writing materials for a school i worked for - but a while ago #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:08:19 |
not sure pre Web 2.0 is relevant - what do you think? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:08:19 |
What is meant by in school publishing? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:08:29 |
RT @SueAnnan: What is meant by in school publishing? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:08:53 |
Was this something all staff was involved or separate writers' team? #ELTchat https://t.co/zEsd9Wy1mR |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:09:06 |
I suppose a school creating and selling or distributing CBs or supplementary books to their Ss ( and others) #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:09:23 |
@SueAnnan I think it's about creating materials for the entire school - not just one's classes #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:09:29 |
@angelos_bollas Separate team of tutors #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:09:36 |
Oh. I've seen that done :-) #ELTChat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:10:04 |
It is very limiting though, don't you think? #ELTChat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:10:11 |
@mariacolussa Don't forget to use the hashtag, Maria :) #ELTchat - Welcome! |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:10:43 |
@Marisa_C So, this is not all Ts writing own materials for own classes and then putting them together. More than that, right? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:11:03 |
There are many schools around the world that do this - I know sb who travels a lot on such materials writing projects... #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:11:34 |
@SueAnnan Same as all CBs I think - It could even be better, tho, if u think that those materials are created for specific learners #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:11:43 |
Rod Bolitho - he/his institution supervises teams of local/school writers to produce their own material #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:12:07 |
I suppose the school will make money that way- rather than spending it on CBs #ELTChat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:12:22 |
That's an interesting job... #ELTchat https://t.co/4HrBjQwn42 |
ESOLLiz |
2016-03-09T21:12:48 |
I've been doing a lot of sharing homemade materials with colleagues - would like to write for different levels but need more time! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:12:53 |
@SueAnnan I guess so - and will be using stuff they approve of - I wrote some books for my school myself - esp for literature #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:13:17 |
Where I worked we made a lot of stuff: games, worksheets, interactive exercises, tests. Individuals or in teams. I did quite a bit. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:13:44 |
In my first school I created a Teaching Materials Bank for all the teachers #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:14:07 |
Could be a good idea, depending on circumstances. But I worry that the material could be limiting Ts creativity #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:14:26 |
This was supplementary material to support their coursebook teaching but still it was schoolwide - 4500 students #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:14:43 |
I still have a cardboard box full of games I made 30+ years ago. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:14:54 |
@SueAnnan Perhaps, if Ts are involved in the process, things might be slightly better. #ELTchat |
DpEnglishMadrid |
2016-03-09T21:15:01 |
RT @nutrich: Make a beautiful visual story in minutes | @scoopit via @NikPeachey https://t.co/n5xhQyeedN #edtech #eltchat |
DpEnglishMadrid |
2016-03-09T21:15:13 |
RT @HadaLitim: Cristina Cabal gets us thinking abt what she calls the 'sore thumb - s/v agreement' with her 17 qn quiz. #eltchat https://t.… |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:15:18 |
And who owns the material copyright? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:15:22 |
@SueAnnan to an extent I agree with you - as a junior in-house trainer I was made to write acres of lesson plans - awful for the Ts #ELTchat |
geoffcain |
2016-03-09T21:15:29 |
@Marisa_C That is great! There are teachers today who won't share syllabi because of "intellectual property." #ELTchat |
DpEnglishMadrid |
2016-03-09T21:15:30 |
RT @tekhnologicblog: Looking for an Easter themed game or activity? Try these templates. #tefl #eltchat https://t.co/QteQYbBlJ5 |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:15:34 |
because they did not develop properly #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:15:40 |
@Marisa_C 4500? No wonder why the need for own materials (and money making) #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:16:04 |
@GlenysHanson You should publish them (or blog about them) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:16:15 |
@angelos_bollas this was free for the teachers and the Ss (HAU in its heyday) #ELTchat |
ESOLLiz |
2016-03-09T21:16:19 |
@Marisa_C That's what I'm trying to do for ESOL - very few published materials available, and limited budget! #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:16:28 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Where I worked it was entirely bottom up - the teachers' own initiatve. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:16:32 |
That's an interesting question #ELTchat https://t.co/5bF1Bzc3nm |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:17:04 |
@geoffcain that was why I had to create and head a team of writers for all to share the materials created #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:17:11 |
@Marisa_C Oh, I had another school in mind :) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:17:15 |
RT @SueAnnan: And who owns the material copyright? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:17:38 |
@GlenysHanson we share a lot in my place, but not everyone produces stuff. Some just take :-( #Eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:17:52 |
thorny question Sue - in my own case a lot of the mat I produced ended up in a new publishing venture for which i never got paid #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:18:03 |
@SueAnnan @GlenysHanson True in almost all schools I think #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:18:15 |
the idea is that i was salaried ....so.... #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:18:34 |
@angelos_bollas Who's interested in games on paper of cardboard these days? I've transfered a lot to online exercises already. #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:18:36 |
@Marisa_C That's what I thought :-( #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:18:39 |
@angelos_bollas this is the one you had in mind #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:18:50 |
@Marisa_C That's awful Gkrrrrrrrrr #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:19:04 |
big bucks #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:19:23 |
@GlenysHanson How about producing an e-book of them? #ELTChat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:19:25 |
@GlenysHanson Our school is - and many others, too. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:19:41 |
but let's address the question - what is needed for a publishing team #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:20:11 |
RT @Marisa_C: but let's address the question - what is needed for a publishing team #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:20:15 |
first you need syllabus designers - people who can do testing and needs analysis, set objectives and analyse needs #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:20:20 |
people who understand good peda/andra gogy #ELTchat |
ESOLLiz |
2016-03-09T21:20:38 |
@GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas Cardboard games still have their place! #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:20:45 |
RT @SueAnnan people who understand good peda/andra gogy #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:21:09 |
you also need people who understand design and can edit the work of the materials writing team #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:21:26 |
@Marisa_C Could these people be the same as course designers or must be different? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:21:30 |
@Marisa_C True! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:22:19 |
@angelos_bollas Better if they are different. It's hard to see mistakes when you are too close #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:23:41 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas true - but you are talking about proofreaders - this is different from the job of editing materials #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:24:31 |
@Marisa_C So, there's also need for a writers team (different from the teachers team) #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:25:50 |
@SueAnnan I'm no longer interested in my old games. But if anyone is, contact me and I'll send a brown paper parcel. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:25:53 |
Some of the teachers could be part of the writing team - depends on their level of skill #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:27:03 |
What sort of thing would they be writing? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:27:59 |
@SueAnnan I think proper coursebooks only ones that meet the needs of the ss of the school #ELTchat - no? |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:29:29 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Needs of the students, I'd say. Never found one, though. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:29:40 |
Not only CBN also supplementary mats - e.g. a listening supplement or vocabulary building or a reader with activities etc #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:30:19 |
and you'd have to be careful with CC licenses #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:30:30 |
In my own school I created a library of topics and themes for teachers to pick lessons from #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:30:51 |
@Marisa_C I think these are easier to do now with tech - am thinking of our wiki and how schools could use similar platforms #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:31:20 |
@angelos_bollas true - creating an e-book would be much easier now #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:31:31 |
@Marisa_C There's so much on the Internet now. One of a T's roles is to guide Ss to find what is useful for them, isn't it? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:33:24 |
@GlenysHanson Agree - my big binders no longer needed - so true #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:33:56 |
What about collaboration between Ts and Writers? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:34:25 |
RT @angelos_bollas: What about collaboration between Ts and Writers? #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:34:30 |
@Marisa_C I still have my ring binders mouldering somewhere in the barn. #Eltchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:34:32 |
We do a sessionwhere Ts class-share. The 1 not t'ing makes new lesson+ plan,teaches ,observed by pairT, then adds it to resources #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:34:53 |
There are lessons to be learnt from commercial publishers - e.g. piloting units of work #ELTchat |
RachaelTESOL |
2016-03-09T21:35:12 |
RT @Marisa_C: There are lessons to be learnt from commercial publishers - e.g. piloting units of work #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:35:21 |
asking students and teachers what they thought of the material- content, rubric, layout design etc #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:35:44 |
@GlenysHanson no barn here - just a room at my school #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:36:01 |
@Marisa_C Always a good idea- even with existing CBs #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:36:11 |
@GlenysHanson will eventually have to throw them out #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:36:51 |
It's terrible how i cannot yet part with all that paper #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:37:23 |
I spent the weekend scanning everything in to my dropbox, and binning paper. Cathartic! #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:37:24 |
@Marisa_C That's what I miss now - not easy to get useful feedback on what I produce & put on line. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:37:25 |
@Marisa_C Not easy nowadays - but u should scan everything first #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:37:40 |
why can i not use the video feature of @nuprh ps? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:37:58 |
shall I try? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:38:20 |
@SueAnnan one weekend not enough for me Sue - you have been to my room haven't you #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:38:56 |
go ahead #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:39:00 |
@Marisa_C Am not on Nurph at the mo - cannot check (laptop is dying :( ) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:39:19 |
pourquoi? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:39:39 |
Yes. I have been working on this for more than a year in reality. Just finished this weekend. Even have stuff from my DIP in 1992 #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:39:55 |
i believe you so do i #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:40:13 |
Not getting any video. Sorry #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:40:28 |
Which goes to show you one of the traits a materials writer needs - they need to be a collector and curator or ideas #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:40:38 |
some day these ideas turn into materials #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:40:39 |
@Marisa_C It's been with me since 2006 - It cannot handle two different tabs and Tweetdeck isn't a light one #ELTchat - need to get a new |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:41:07 |
reformat it #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:41:35 |
Would it be useful for Writers to use Ts lesson plans as guides? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:42:00 |
@angelos_bollas sorry i don't understand the question #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:42:18 |
My Ts don't generally write LPs #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:42:48 |
what about whether we need native speaker informants for our materials - what do you think? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:43:02 |
I mean, would it be helpful as an inside info for writing team to have a look at what Ts do in classes before producing materials? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:43:32 |
I see a lot of rubbish being published locally - why I am saying this - a lot of unnatural English #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:44:15 |
Im not sure I like the idea of someone writing my materials for me TBH. I always cannibalise stuff to fit my sts. #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:44:18 |
@Marisa_C I had to get young native speakers to help me make transcripts of recent films - I couldn't uunderstand everything. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:44:32 |
@angelos_bollas there is a benefit and a danger here - if Ts doign a great job fine - if not you are pandering to the complacent #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:44:45 |
@Marisa_C I guess is a Q of whether the school believes in one correct version of English or in many different 'Englishes' #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:45:21 |
@SueAnnan well yes but that's not what we are discussing - we are talking about a school producing their own - what Ts do is diff #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:45:31 |
@Marisa_C True! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:45:52 |
@angelos_bollas I think we are expected to teach Standard, Neutral English #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:46:03 |
@angelos_bollas it's also about what is real and natural english #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:46:27 |
I always consult with colleagues or native non-teacher informants #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:46:48 |
@SueAnnan @angelos_bollas That's what nearly all my students wanted & what I helped them to produce as best I could.#ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:47:00 |
I see Ts crowdsourcing correct versions on FB these days #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:47:25 |
@SueAnnan sure - and twitter is a good place for that too #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:47:37 |
@SueAnnan The perks of tech :) #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:48:12 |
@angelos_bollas Indeed. But having seen some of the questions- deadly serious # #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:48:31 |
@jdslagoski excuse me we haven't finished our discussion - you are interrupting #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:48:39 |
@SueAnnan And some of the answers, too #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:49:17 |
@angelos_bollas indeed #ELTchat |
mariacolussa |
2016-03-09T21:49:23 |
#eltchat I also 'cannibalise' all the time! https://t.co/hi9GJS68J3 |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:49:44 |
@SueAnnan I participate in the LinkedIn Grammar Geeks group. Very interesting about what is "standard English". #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:50:04 |
@mariacolussa My students change regularly. It is difficult to have a 1 size fits all # #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:50:22 |
@GlenysHanson @SueAnnan i should join them - i have to answer grammar geeky questions all day long :-D #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:50:53 |
but I like that sort of think - weird huh? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:51:28 |
@GlenysHanson I suppose that, as long as we help them communicate intelligently, it doesn't always matter too much #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:51:30 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan The GGs are mainly descriptivists - no simple answers to grammar questions. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:52:01 |
@Marisa_C Your bedside books are grammar ones..... #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:52:07 |
@GlenysHanson wasn;t looking for perscriptivists no #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:52:31 |
@angelos_bollas leech and huddleston :-) #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:52:51 |
or Leech and Svartvick? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:53:03 |
@SueAnnan separate books #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:53:23 |
Leech on his own is okay #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:53:45 |
@SueAnnan yes not so fond of the leech and svartvik grammar #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:54:01 |
@SueAnnan Sorry I disagree. My students were quite good at communicating in fluent broken English. They came for "standard English".#ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:54:05 |
I agree. It was required reading for Dip #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:54:18 |
anyway - we have kind of lost track in our #ELTchat - is it because we have said it all? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:54:57 |
WE only have a few minutes left- would anyone fancy the summary writer job? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:55:12 |
@Marisa_C Well.... it seems so #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:55:27 |
Anyone read to put in a bid for the summary? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:55:48 |
@SueAnnan I could write up this one.. Next week, though.. I have a literature review to submit first #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:55:48 |
RT @SueAnnan WE only have a few minutes left- would anyone fancy the summary writer job? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:56:02 |
finish up!!!! #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:56:06 |
Great. We have a writer #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:56:06 |
aaleay #ELTchat |
nutrich |
2016-03-09T21:56:08 |
RT @GlenysHanson: @Marisa_C ... so much on the net now. 1 of T's roles is to guide Ss to find what is useful for them #ELTchat 》 curation |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:56:09 |
already! #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:56:14 |
:-D #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:56:43 |
@nutrich @GlenysHanson my main role in teacher ed courses - a curator #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:57:01 |
@nutrich true #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:57:52 |
Am off to bed good folks - thank you so much for joining - and to Angelos for offering to do summary #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2016-03-09T21:58:02 |
Time to leave - Thanks for being around people - Have a lovely night :) #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:58:10 |
@nutrich @Marisa_C Yes, I mean curating - just not up to date in my vocabulary. ;-) #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2016-03-09T21:58:15 |
See you all soon. Sleep well everyone #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2016-03-09T21:58:48 |
Sweet dreams everyone. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2016-03-09T21:58:50 |
@GlenysHanson no worries a mere technicality #ELTchat |
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