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Building a ELT Publishing team for a school

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angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:01:26 Hi #ELTchat - Welcome all to another chat. https://t.co/rEDKfJRImL
donaldjpaul 2016-03-09T21:01:36 RT @Marisa_C: Are you interested in creating materials tailor made for your school? This is our topic today on #eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:01:54 RT @Marisa_C: "How to create an ELT Publishing Team for a school" Have you done anything like that? Come join us to share your experience…
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:02:08 #mawsig members might be interested in joining tonight's #ELTchat https://t.co/OVf5tuR9ZE
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:02:40 @angelos_bollas true #ELTchat #mawsig
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:02:54 looks like we'll be chatting among ourselves #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:03:09 And here's our @Nurph chatroom: https://t.co/hPMtG9uVCx #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:03:32 On the other hand it looks like not even the person who set the question is here to #ELTchat  grrrr
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:04:37 Who proposed this? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:05:36 @SueAnnan Eyyup Sabri Buyukpamukcu is the name... #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:05:51 Hi @GlenysHanson  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:05:53 @SueAnnan someone called Vero Ega #ELTchat
ESOLLiz 2016-03-09T21:06:39 Good evening! Looks like an interesting topic about which I know little... #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:07:03 @GlenysHanson Hi Glenys! :-) #ELTchat
ELTAF_de 2016-03-09T21:07:11 Hi #ELTchat followers, we offer #ELT workshops and newsletters from Germany's heart! https://t.co/3AQ4pg7rZb
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:07:20 hi am in nurph - am nuprhing and seeking inspiration to stay here  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:07:22 @ESOLLiz Hello Liz - Welcome #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:08:01 I have been involved in writing materials for a school i worked for - but a while ago  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:08:19 not sure pre Web 2.0 is relevant - what do you think?  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:08:19 What is meant by in school publishing? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:08:29 RT @SueAnnan: What is meant by in school publishing? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:08:53 Was this something all staff was involved or separate writers' team? #ELTchat  https://t.co/zEsd9Wy1mR
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:09:06 I suppose a school creating and selling or distributing CBs or supplementary books to their Ss ( and others)  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:09:23 @SueAnnan I think it's about creating materials for the entire school - not just one's classes #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:09:29 @angelos_bollas Separate team of tutors  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:09:36 Oh. I've seen that done :-) #ELTChat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:10:04 It is very limiting though, don't you think? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:10:11 @mariacolussa Don't forget to use the hashtag, Maria :) #ELTchat - Welcome!
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:10:43 @Marisa_C So, this is not all Ts writing own materials for own classes and then putting them together. More than that, right? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:11:03 There are many schools around the world that do this - I know sb who travels a lot on such materials writing projects...  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:11:34 @SueAnnan Same as all CBs I think - It could even be better, tho, if u think that those materials are created for specific learners #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:11:43 Rod Bolitho - he/his institution supervises teams of local/school writers to produce their own material  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:12:07 I suppose the school will make money that way- rather than spending it on CBs #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:12:22 That's an interesting job... #ELTchat  https://t.co/4HrBjQwn42
ESOLLiz 2016-03-09T21:12:48 I've been doing a lot of sharing homemade materials with colleagues - would like to write for different levels but need more time! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:12:53 @SueAnnan I guess so - and will be using stuff they approve of - I wrote some books for my school myself - esp for literature  #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:13:17 Where I worked we made a lot of stuff: games, worksheets, interactive exercises, tests. Individuals or in teams. I did quite a bit. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:13:44 In my first school I created a Teaching Materials Bank for all the teachers  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:14:07 Could be a good idea, depending on circumstances. But I worry that the material could be limiting Ts creativity #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:14:26 This was supplementary material to support their coursebook teaching but still it was schoolwide - 4500 students  #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:14:43 I still have a cardboard box full of games I made 30+ years ago. #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:14:54 @SueAnnan Perhaps, if Ts are involved in the process, things might be slightly better. #ELTchat
DpEnglishMadrid 2016-03-09T21:15:01 RT @nutrich: Make a beautiful visual story in minutes | @scoopit via @NikPeachey https://t.co/n5xhQyeedN #edtech #eltchat
DpEnglishMadrid 2016-03-09T21:15:13 RT @HadaLitim: Cristina Cabal gets us thinking abt what she calls the 'sore thumb - s/v agreement' with her 17 qn quiz. #eltchat https://t.…
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:15:18 And who owns the material copyright? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:15:22 @SueAnnan to an extent I agree with you - as a junior in-house trainer I was made to write acres of lesson plans - awful for the Ts #ELTchat
geoffcain 2016-03-09T21:15:29 @Marisa_C That is great! There are teachers today who won't share syllabi because of "intellectual property." #ELTchat
DpEnglishMadrid 2016-03-09T21:15:30 RT @tekhnologicblog: Looking for an Easter themed game or activity? Try these templates. #tefl #eltchat https://t.co/QteQYbBlJ5
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:15:34 because they did not develop properly  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:15:40 @Marisa_C 4500? No wonder why the need for own materials (and money making) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:16:04 @GlenysHanson You should publish them (or blog about them) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:16:15 @angelos_bollas this was free for the teachers and the Ss (HAU in its heyday)  #ELTchat
ESOLLiz 2016-03-09T21:16:19 @Marisa_C That's what I'm trying to do for ESOL - very few published materials available, and limited budget! #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:16:28 @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Where I worked it was entirely bottom up - the teachers' own initiatve. #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:16:32 That's an interesting question #ELTchat  https://t.co/5bF1Bzc3nm
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:17:04 @geoffcain that was why I had to create and head a team of writers for all to share the materials created  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:17:11 @Marisa_C Oh, I had another school in mind :) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:17:15 RT @SueAnnan: And who owns the material copyright? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:17:38 @GlenysHanson  we share a lot in my place, but not everyone produces stuff. Some just take :-( #Eltchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:17:52 thorny question Sue - in my own case a lot of the mat I produced ended up in a new publishing venture for which i never got paid  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:18:03 @SueAnnan @GlenysHanson True in almost all schools I think #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:18:15 the idea is that i was salaried ....so....  #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:18:34 @angelos_bollas Who's interested in games on paper of cardboard these days? I've transfered a lot to online exercises already. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:18:36 @Marisa_C  That's what I thought :-( #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:18:39 @angelos_bollas this is the one you had in mind  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:18:50 @Marisa_C That's awful Gkrrrrrrrrr #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:19:04 big bucks #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:19:23 @GlenysHanson  How about producing an e-book of them? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:19:25 @GlenysHanson Our school is - and many others, too. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:19:41 but let's address the question - what is needed for a publishing team  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:20:11 RT @Marisa_C: but let's address the question - what is needed for a publishing team  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:20:15 first you need syllabus designers - people who can do testing and needs analysis, set objectives and analyse needs  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:20:20 people who understand good peda/andra gogy #ELTchat
ESOLLiz 2016-03-09T21:20:38 @GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas Cardboard games still have their place! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:20:45 RT @SueAnnan people who understand good peda/andra gogy #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:21:09 you also need people who understand design and can edit the work of the materials writing team  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:21:26 @Marisa_C Could these people be the same as course designers or must be different? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:21:30 @Marisa_C True! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:22:19 @angelos_bollas  Better if they are different. It's hard to see mistakes when you are too close #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:23:41 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas  true - but you are talking about proofreaders - this is different from the job of editing materials  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:24:31 @Marisa_C So, there's also need for a writers team (different from the teachers team) #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:25:50 @SueAnnan I'm no longer interested in my old games. But if anyone is, contact me and I'll send a brown paper parcel. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:25:53 Some of the teachers could be part of the writing team - depends on their level of skill  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:27:03 What sort of thing would they be writing?  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:27:59 @SueAnnan I think proper coursebooks only ones that meet the needs of the ss of the school #ELTchat  - no?
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:29:29 @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Needs of the students, I'd say. Never found one, though. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:29:40 Not only CBN also supplementary mats - e.g. a listening supplement or vocabulary building or a reader with activities etc #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:30:19 and you'd have to be careful with CC licenses #ELTChat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:30:30 In my own school I created a library of topics and themes for teachers to pick lessons from  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:30:51 @Marisa_C I think these are easier to do now with tech - am thinking of our wiki and how schools could use similar platforms #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:31:20 @angelos_bollas true - creating an e-book would be much easier now  #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:31:31 @Marisa_C There's so much on the Internet now. One of a T's roles is to guide Ss to find what is useful for them, isn't it?  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:33:24 @GlenysHanson Agree - my big binders no longer needed - so true  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:33:56 What about collaboration between Ts and Writers? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:34:25 RT @angelos_bollas: What about collaboration between Ts and Writers? #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:34:30 @Marisa_C I still have my ring binders mouldering somewhere in the barn. #Eltchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:34:32 We do a sessionwhere Ts class-share. The 1 not t'ing makes new lesson+ plan,teaches ,observed by pairT, then adds it to resources  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:34:53 There are lessons to be learnt from commercial publishers - e.g. piloting units of work  #ELTchat
RachaelTESOL 2016-03-09T21:35:12 RT @Marisa_C: There are lessons to be learnt from commercial publishers - e.g. piloting units of work  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:35:21 asking students and teachers what they thought of the material- content, rubric, layout design etc #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:35:44 @GlenysHanson no barn here - just a room at my school  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:36:01 @Marisa_C Always a good idea- even with existing CBs #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:36:11 @GlenysHanson will eventually have to throw them out  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:36:51 It's terrible how i cannot yet part with all that paper  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:37:23 I spent the weekend scanning everything in to my dropbox, and binning paper. Cathartic! #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:37:24 @Marisa_C That's what I miss now - not easy to get useful feedback on what  I produce & put on line. #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:37:25 @Marisa_C Not easy nowadays - but u should scan everything first #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:37:40 why can i not use the video feature of @nuprh ps?  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:37:58 shall I try? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:38:20 @SueAnnan one weekend not enough for me Sue - you have been to my room haven't you  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:38:56 go ahead  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:39:00 @Marisa_C Am not on Nurph at the mo - cannot check (laptop is dying :( ) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:39:19 pourquoi? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:39:39 Yes. I have been working on this for more than a year in reality. Just finished this weekend. Even have stuff from my DIP in 1992 #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:39:55 i believe you so do i  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:40:13 Not getting any video. Sorry #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:40:28 Which goes to show you one of the traits a materials writer needs - they need to be a collector and curator or ideas  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:40:38 some day these ideas turn into materials  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:40:39 @Marisa_C It's been with me since 2006 - It cannot handle two different tabs and Tweetdeck isn't a light one #ELTchat - need to get a new
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:41:07 reformat it  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:41:35 Would it be useful for Writers to use Ts lesson plans as guides? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:42:00 @angelos_bollas sorry i don't understand the question  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:42:18 My Ts don't generally write LPs  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:42:48 what about whether we need native speaker informants for our materials - what do you think?  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:43:02 I mean, would it be helpful as an inside info for writing team to have a look at what Ts do in classes before producing materials? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:43:32 I see a lot of rubbish being published locally - why I am saying this - a lot of unnatural English  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:44:15 Im not sure I like the idea of someone writing my materials for me TBH. I always cannibalise stuff to fit my sts.  #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:44:18 @Marisa_C I had to get young native speakers to help me make transcripts of recent films - I couldn't uunderstand everything. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:44:32 @angelos_bollas there is a benefit and a danger here - if  Ts doign a great job fine - if not you are pandering to the complacent  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:44:45 @Marisa_C I guess is a Q of whether the school believes in one correct version of English or in many different 'Englishes' #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:45:21 @SueAnnan well yes but that's not what we are discussing - we are talking about a school producing their own - what Ts do is diff  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:45:31 @Marisa_C True! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:45:52 @angelos_bollas I think we are expected to teach Standard, Neutral English #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:46:03 @angelos_bollas it's also about what is real and natural english  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:46:27 I always consult with colleagues or native non-teacher informants  #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:46:48 @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas That's what nearly all my students wanted & what I helped them to produce as best I could.#ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:47:00 I see Ts crowdsourcing correct versions on FB these days  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:47:25 @SueAnnan sure - and twitter is a good place for that too  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:47:37 @SueAnnan The perks of tech :) #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:48:12 @angelos_bollas Indeed. But having seen some of the questions- deadly serious # #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:48:31 @jdslagoski excuse me we haven't finished our discussion - you are interrupting  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:48:39 @SueAnnan And some of the answers, too #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:49:17 @angelos_bollas indeed #ELTchat
mariacolussa 2016-03-09T21:49:23 #eltchat I also 'cannibalise' all  the   time! https://t.co/hi9GJS68J3
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:49:44 @SueAnnan I participate in the LinkedIn Grammar Geeks group. Very interesting about  what is "standard English". #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:50:04 @mariacolussa My students change regularly. It is difficult to have a 1 size fits all # #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:50:22 @GlenysHanson @SueAnnan i should join them - i have to answer grammar geeky questions all day long :-D  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:50:53 but I like that sort of think - weird huh?  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:51:28 @GlenysHanson I suppose  that, as long as we help them communicate intelligently, it doesn't always matter too much #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:51:30 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan The GGs are mainly descriptivists - no simple answers to grammar questions. #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:52:01 @Marisa_C Your bedside books are grammar ones..... #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:52:07 @GlenysHanson wasn;t looking for perscriptivists no  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:52:31 @angelos_bollas leech and huddleston :-)  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:52:51 or Leech and Svartvick? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:53:03 @SueAnnan separate books  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:53:23 Leech on his own is okay #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:53:45 @SueAnnan yes not so fond of the leech and svartvik grammar  #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:54:01 @SueAnnan Sorry I disagree. My students were quite good at communicating in fluent broken English. They came for "standard English".#ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:54:05 I agree. It was required reading for Dip #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:54:18 anyway - we have kind of lost track in our #ELTchat - is it because we have said it all?  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:54:57 WE only have a few minutes left- would anyone fancy the summary writer job? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:55:12 @Marisa_C Well.... it seems so #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:55:27 Anyone read to put in a bid for the summary?  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:55:48 @SueAnnan I could write up this one.. Next week, though.. I have a literature review to submit first #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:55:48 RT @SueAnnan WE only have a few minutes left- would anyone fancy the summary writer job? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:56:02 finish up!!!!  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:56:06 Great. We have a writer #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:56:06 aaleay  #ELTchat
nutrich 2016-03-09T21:56:08 RT @GlenysHanson: @Marisa_C ... so much on the net now. 1 of T's roles is to guide Ss to find what is useful for them  #ELTchat 》 curation
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:56:09 already!  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:56:14 :-D  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:56:43 @nutrich @GlenysHanson my main role in teacher ed courses - a curator  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:57:01 @nutrich true #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:57:52 Am off to bed good folks - thank you so much for joining - and to Angelos for offering to do summary  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2016-03-09T21:58:02 Time to leave - Thanks for being around people - Have a lovely night :) #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:58:10 @nutrich @Marisa_C Yes, I mean curating - just not up to date in my vocabulary.  ;-) #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2016-03-09T21:58:15 See you all soon. Sleep well everyone #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2016-03-09T21:58:48 Sweet dreams everyone. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2016-03-09T21:58:50 @GlenysHanson no worries a mere technicality  #ELTchat

 

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