| ELTchat |
2016-01-20T12:02:08 |
#ELTchat is about to start! Join our @Nurph channel and make your life easier https://t.co/Om1f7hxWGRNo need to add the hashtag from there |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:03:04 |
#ELTchat on how to get the best out of exam students ready to go - anyone here? |
| ELTchat |
2016-01-20T12:03:04 |
#ELTchat on how to get the best out of exam students ready to go - anyone here? |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:03:17 |
RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat on how to get the best out of exam students ready to go - anyone here? |
| StudioAcademic |
2016-01-20T12:59:16 |
Ss making 'top tips' list end of each week (as collaborative speaking task) works well. @teflgeek @Marisa_C @theteacherjames #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:03:59 |
@GlenysHanson Hello! #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:05:18 |
People might be busy preparing students for exams during lunchtime (lol) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:05:40 |
Tweets from now on for #ELTchat - pls only tweet stuff relevant to our discussion of exam prep Ss |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:05:51 |
RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat on how to get the best out of exam students ready to go - anyone here? |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:06:10 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Bad news #eltchat people mitra suggesting reading and writing no longer imp in language and learning |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:06:58 |
#eltchat Is Nurph working? I don't see any messages at https://t.co/cR6nqiAs5Z |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:07:34 |
@GlenysHanson Are you not? I am using Nurph now and can see our tweets. #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:07:52 |
@GlenysHanson https://t.co/IsCPQqhoLR #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:09:13 |
@GlenysHanson Now I see you online! :) #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:09:27 |
Keep forgetting Nurph doesn't work on Firefox. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:09:58 |
i don't see any messages either #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:10:04 |
must be a glitch #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:10:28 |
All fine for me now on Chrome. #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:11:10 |
Hi #ELTchat . I find that all my TOEIC students are really driven but only half will read/listen to non-TOEIC prep materials outside class. |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:11:27 |
Hi Betty #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:11:39 |
@Philip_Saxon Are you around? We're talking your topic #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:12:03 |
@getgreatenglish Hi there - so they are only 'exam-driven' not language acquisition driven #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:12:25 |
@getgreatenglish not unheard of in our exam-crazzed country too (Greece) #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:12:47 |
People interested in exams but not interested in language --> Happens to me a lot, too #eltchat https://t.co/VtUE04lDl0 |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:13:04 |
@marisa_c @angelos_bollas Has it started? #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:13:19 |
@TesalKoksi @marisa_c Yes! :) #eltchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:14:02 |
A question: Do they have to study as hard for language skills exams as they do for content-based exams? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:14:20 |
RT @TesalKoksi: A question: Do they have to study as hard for language skills exams as they do for content-based exams? #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:14:23 |
@Marisa_C I'm not 100% on that because they take notes on corrections in discussions. But priority is definitely test>language. #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:14:30 |
I did very little TOEIC, etc. prep and hated doing it because students focussed on the test not on learning the language. #ELTchat |
| bettytheteacher |
2016-01-20T12:14:32 |
Preparing for today's lessons, just lurking for now :) hello everyone #ELTchat |
| BoccapertaLN |
2016-01-20T12:14:44 |
#eltchat I find it hard to strike a balance between exam practice and other, generally more interesting activities. |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:14:47 |
@bettytheteacher Hello and welcome #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:15:14 |
Would you say then that exam practice is by definition not interesting? #eltchat https://t.co/dbqGuO5dv3 |
| BoccapertaLN |
2016-01-20T12:15:51 |
#eltchat also very difficult to motivate students who did not choose by themselves to take the exam! |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:16:00 |
@GlenysHanson Similar to what @getgreatenglish says. Is it a matter of priorities, motivation, or stress? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:16:04 |
I wish @Philip_Saxon was herer - I find his wording somewhat intriguing - cos we have done other exam prep chats in the past #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:16:14 |
@TesalKoksi Is content knowledge or language proficiency most pressing need? #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:16:14 |
Not by definitinon. There are tests where students are put in situations where they have to speak. #ELTchat |
| bettytheteacher |
2016-01-20T12:16:17 |
Exam practice is by definition quite uniform that's why not so interesting I guess #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:16:37 |
True for everything in life, right? #eltchat https://t.co/j8Mkm3UkfH |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:16:46 |
Hi all #eltchat - what's the topic? |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:16:48 |
what does he mean? @Philip_Saxon Learner training for exams ? not sure #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:17:28 |
@teflgeek Hi David - How to make the most out of Exam students #eltchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:17:43 |
@getgreatenglish @marisa_c I feel they are language driven -- but only in connection to the exam. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:18:12 |
@TesalKoksi @getgreatenglish @TesalKoksi @GlenysHanson @teflgeek Hello have cheered up a bit now -thought we wd be talking solo #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:18:56 |
I do like a nice exam class #eltchat always great fun! |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:18:59 |
What is your experience post exam? In Greece we find that they pass and then they can't use the language at all #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:19:07 |
@getgreatenglish Both equally, I think - Also depends on culture @TesalKoksi #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:19:35 |
Don't forget the hashtag, please! :) #eltchat https://t.co/YCWcdW5oSK |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:19:45 |
This is surely evidence of poor teaching - exam cramming - but zere are vays of motivating exam `Ss surely"? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:20:14 |
The French Diplome de competence en langues gives students a problem to solve using reading, listen & speaking. Fuun to prepare for #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:20:19 |
@Marisa_C most evidence relating to "cramming" shows it is ineffective #eltchat - look at washback studies like Perrone |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:20:54 |
#ELTchat I got sick of strategy, test practice and clearing up language points so worked on discourse for TOEIC. Worked well. #ELTchat |
| BoccapertaLN |
2016-01-20T12:21:09 |
@Marisa_C same in Italy, probably one of the reasons of lack of motivation #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:21:14 |
That's cultural issue,isn't it?Greeks know how 2 pass an exam without really mastering the subject matter #eltchat https://t.co/sIP3166RsW |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:21:16 |
It's the MCQ type: TOEIC, TOEFL, etc. I couldn't stomack #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:21:43 |
We should have something more.. 'realistic' in English, too #eltchat https://t.co/ZeIY92V0iL |
| ambartosik |
2016-01-20T12:21:47 |
Anna chiming in for a bit #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:22:01 |
you need to know what the exam is actually testing rather than just doing practice. Develop the skills as well as familiarity #eltchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:22:13 |
@angelos_bollas @getgreatenglish I mean is do they have 2 give the same effort as they do 4 other subjects which r content-based. #ELTchat |
| StudioAcademic |
2016-01-20T12:22:23 |
Many exam sts report they're learning more during exam courses but are actually learning to tick boxes, not new language @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:22:29 |
@ambartosik Welcome! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:22:36 |
@teflgeek Link to Perrone study https://t.co/iIQ5nTxUz3 - quick 2 words abt conclusions? #ELTchat |
| BoccapertaLN |
2016-01-20T12:23:08 |
@getgreatenglish can you explain better, this sounds like a good strategy. #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:23:10 |
@getgreatenglish How did you mange that? I had a revolt on my hands when I tried anything not TOEIC related on prep courses. #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:23:16 |
@TesalKoksi Posibly more - It's not only knowing the lang it's also showing you know the lang @getgreatenglish #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:23:22 |
@TesalKoksi @angelos_bollas Maybe more repeated exposure and effort thus difficult and demotivating? #ELTchat |
| ambartosik |
2016-01-20T12:23:49 |
@Marisa_C lots of research showing proficiency tests don't help achieve fluency #eltchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:23:56 |
@marisa_c Same thing here in India #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:24:29 |
@GlenysHanson It's possible to sell anything to exam freak Ss as long as you can explain simply & clearly how it will help #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:24:48 |
RT @teflgeek: you need to know what the exam is actually testing rather than just doing practice. Develop the skills as well as familiarit… |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:24:54 |
@Marisa_C I have his phd not this article, looks broadly the same though. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:25:22 |
Te he he - Tricky! #eltchat https://t.co/Myx4O8dzLq |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:25:27 |
@BoccapertaLN @GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas #eltchat I said Theme/Rheme would help reading 6 & 7; adjacency for listening 2 & 3 |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:25:51 |
@Marisa_C Conclusions - no measurable improvement in performance between exam class and GE class (ie. both improve at same rates) #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:25:53 |
@Marisa_C If we weren't following the TOEIC prep manual, most of them would reject it. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:26:12 |
@angelos_bollas no not tricky - i 'd give them research abstracts abt exam training like this one to read #ELTchat |
| ambartosik |
2016-01-20T12:26:17 |
@angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson TBL on exams, yes #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:26:22 |
@GlenysHanson #ELTchat also this year's TOEIC class were bloody lovely! |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:26:36 |
So there's need to have clear connections/links to the usefulness of what they do re their exam #eltchat https://t.co/J1Hg4cZMby |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:27:07 |
@StudioAcademic @Marisa_C Totally agree #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:27:13 |
No - a great result to share with the Ss and then talk them out of self-flaggelation #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:27:21 |
This is something I have never done but would love to do so asap! Would help them be more autonomous #eltchat https://t.co/us3j7TpS0J |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:28:04 |
Because i'm teaching in a Montessori school, we don't have exams for our students #eltchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:28:10 |
@getgreatenglish I could try that too. :-) #eltchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:28:16 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas Great idea! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:28:34 |
Objectives training into activities (have mentioned this before) helps tremendously-but somtms Ts not clear abt activity objectives #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:28:53 |
@yitzha_sarwono How do they prove their proficiency to future employers or universities? #eltchat (Not that tests prove anything... but..) |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:29:12 |
Exams are a kind of necessary evil. I enjoy teaching for them, but they are only partly about learning a language. #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:29:17 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C Iurs picked by uni. Thin gruel thus needed to do more. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:29:18 |
@angelos_bollas @yitzha_sarwono montessori is primary and preprimary :-D #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:29:18 |
RT @Marisa_C: Objectives training into activities (have mentioned this before) helps tremendously-but somtms Ts not clear abt activity obje… |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:29:57 |
@Marisa_C @yitzha_sarwono Then, I suppose they have time for their tests later in life.. (lol) #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:30:43 |
For me though, exams are often the 1st time sts become aware of subskills and work on them. General is sometimes too general #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:30:59 |
@GlenysHanson @Marisa_C Ours. Was typing one handed lying down. :P #ELTchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:31:10 |
RT @theteacherjames: Exams are a kind of necessary evil. I enjoy teaching for them, but they are only partly about learning a language. #EL… |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:31:16 |
@teflgeek What kind of subskills do you mean? #ELTchat |
| StudioAcademic |
2016-01-20T12:31:25 |
Exactly @angelos_bollas we find good teachers habitually tell Ss why they're doing exercises / Target lang in exam classes or GE #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:31:45 |
@getgreatenglish @GlenysHanson i wondered #eltchat but with my superb compensation strategy.... te hehe |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:32:15 |
A comment very much after my own hear #eltchat https://t.co/VOFXEkolsk |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:32:41 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C We do have assessment on their speaking but mainly just a basic conversation since my students are 6 yo #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:32:51 |
RT @Marisa_C A comment very much after my own heart #eltchat https://t.co/VOFXEkolsk #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:32:56 |
:-D #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:33:02 |
@theteacherjames e.g. follwing coherence in a text / summarising / discourse management in speech / effective notetaking etc etc #eltchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:34:09 |
RT @StudioAcademic: Many exam sts report they're learning more during exam courses but are actually learning to tick boxes, not new languag… |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:34:35 |
In a way specifying the subskills for an exam has got some Ts who used to be completely in the dark about them working w more focus #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:34:36 |
But overall Indonesia is big on exam, especially on grammar. Being good on paper is counted more here #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:34:47 |
@theteacherjames unless they're in my classes, but difficult to get YLS / teens to focus on discourse mngmnt skills prior to exam! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:36:11 |
@Marisa_C Probably makes the students more focused (and motivated, perhaps?) #eltchat |
| StudioAcademic |
2016-01-20T12:36:38 |
Definitely agree @teflgeek @theteacherjames. Find that useful skills like discourse mgmnt get more focus in FCE/CAE than GE classes #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:36:51 |
So apart for sharing objectives and being clear abt activity exam focus - what other tips can you share for bringing the best out? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:36:58 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I think it helps them to see the point of what we do. otherwise can be a bit too abstract #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:37:11 |
RT @teflgeek @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I think it helps them to see the point of what we do. otherwise can be a bit too abstract #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:37:26 |
@teflgeek @theteacherjames A balance reqd though. Many of these skills transfer from L1 so don't need tons of teach'g but practice. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:38:08 |
@getgreatenglish I am not sure about transferability of these skills - need to find research for this #eltchat @teflgeek @theteacherjames |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:38:25 |
A typical motivator trick (it's not even a technique) is to hand over teacher rights to diff Ss for diff bits of an exam paper #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:38:30 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Get learners to make their own mock Qs. Works so well for them to understand how test writers test them. |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:38:53 |
@yitzha_sarwono Same thing here in India. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:39:00 |
@getgreatenglish great - that's the next step - be the examiner too #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:39:20 |
@getgreatenglish @theteacherjames some do but some don't: #eltchat https://t.co/50XkMtwKK0 |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:39:23 |
I like this one - Students like this one, too! #eltchat https://t.co/CwtJEqKix8 |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:39:55 |
@angelos_bollas @getgreatenglish @theteacherjames conversations with chinese learners very different to portuguese learners! #eltchat |
| ambartosik |
2016-01-20T12:39:57 |
Morning rush too much today. Stepping out of #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:40:27 |
@Marisa_C giving a chance for std to put them in our shoes, as examiner too, just to get them a clear idea of both sides #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:40:52 |
@TesalKoksi I suppose that's how it is in Asia :) #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:40:53 |
@angelos_bollas @teflgeek @theteacherjames e.g. Every1 summarises in L1. Need awarenss of 'how' to do in Eng. 'What' should be fast.#eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:41:21 |
@getgreatenglish I'm not convinced by the idea of "practice" - it needs analysis and reflection also? #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:41:37 |
RT @teflgeek: @getgreatenglish @theteacherjames some do but some don't: #eltchat https://t.co/50XkMtwKK0 |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:42:03 |
@yitzha_sarwono Yes! Does wonders to some really dour and unwilling Ss #eltchat - I incude that in my 'accelerator toolkit" :-) #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:42:07 |
@teflgeek @getgreatenglish That graph is fantastic, where did you get it from? #ELTchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:42:14 |
@yitzha_sarwono Exactly! Ha ha #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:42:21 |
Depends on what the learners are used/know to do. e.g. Greeks feel lost without practice #eltchat https://t.co/QVzD7yjiEf |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:43:01 |
RT @teflgeek: @getgreatenglish @theteacherjames some do but some don't: #eltchat https://t.co/50XkMtwKK0 |
| ITLegge |
2016-01-20T12:43:20 |
@Marisa_C Maybe look at ways of making tasks collaborative (like using Titanpad for writing)? Peer-support and rubrics? #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:43:33 |
I find most of my exam prep sts are already at a level close to what they need. What they lack is awareness of how the exam works. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:43:36 |
@teflgeek yes but avoiding doing it till u figure it might be a disservice to Ss :-) #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:44:12 |
Link for Titanpad: https://t.co/efpWW1lTxz #eltchat https://t.co/Z0HniaCuTz |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:44:21 |
@teflgeek Sorry. Limits of Twitter. Yes, practice & reflection. What transfers needs doing quick and seen in existing toolbox.#Eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:44:24 |
@theteacherjames @getgreatenglish It comes from @thornburyscott 's blog - where else? #eltchat https://t.co/jzBL3nuIcT |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:44:35 |
@theteacherjames Lucky you... :-P #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:44:45 |
@teflgeek @getgreatenglish Of course! #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:44:56 |
RT @getgreatenglish #eltchat Get learners to make their own mock Qs. Works well for them to understand how test writers test them. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:45:08 |
The problem in some exam classes is also the mixed levels of ability - how do you deal with this? #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:45:41 |
@Marisa_C i'd love to know more about that 'accelerator toolkit' :) #Eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:46:43 |
@Marisa_C for something like FCE, sts can improve by about 10% per 100 hours or so. I tell them this and then give them a mock. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:46:43 |
@angelos_bollas That still involves a lot of teaching! But seriously, you can't have an A2 st in an IELTS prep lesson. #ELTchat |
| TesalKoksi |
2016-01-20T12:47:20 |
RT @getgreatenglish: @Marisa_C #eltchat Get learners to make their own mock Qs. Works so well for them to understand how test writers test … |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:47:24 |
@theteacherjames Welcome to Greece! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:47:29 |
@teflgeek That's a lot of hours!!!! #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:47:39 |
@Marisa_C Put the high together and low together. Similar needs and strategies. Else high can help low. Gross simplification, tho. #Eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:47:47 |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: @Marisa_C i'd love to know more about that 'accelerator toolkit' :) #Eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:47:51 |
@angelos_bollas Well, that's doomed to failure... :-( #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:48:22 |
@theteacherjames I know.. But you still get school owners who say to T if they don't make it, they'll get fired! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:48:32 |
@getgreatenglish true - i was thinking more what about activities or teaching strategies - e.g. sharing a blog of some kind or... #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:48:34 |
@Marisa_C that's just based on my data with my students over the years. Wouldn't like to call it an actual fact or anything! :) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:49:23 |
I don't like is having sts in an exam prep class who have no intention of taking the exam. We could doing more int. things! #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:49:57 |
@angelos_bollas The problems with ELT, part 364... #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:50:13 |
@Marisa_C @teflgeek In France high school students have 900 h of class in first FL - excluding homework!!! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:50:19 |
@getgreatenglish ... a self access listening in a wiki @yitzha_sarwono THAT's a great accelerator :-) #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:50:21 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat For reading/listening, lower Ss need to know it's OK to disregard a lot of incomprehensible stuff. Let them. |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:51:34 |
@Marisa_C 100 hours is (in my context) equivalent to two lessons a week over a nine month period. i.e. an academic year of study #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:51:44 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat #Japan is often a technological wilderness where the classroom is concerned. |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T12:51:48 |
One of the most crucial aspects of any exam class is making the sts completely at ease with the test. No nerves on the big day :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:52:18 |
@theteacherjames yes take the mystery and fear out of it - important #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:52:22 |
RT @theteacherjames: I don't like is having sts in an exam prep class who have no intention of taking the exam. We could doing more int. th… |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:52:52 |
@teflgeek ok was just reacting to the 10% 100 for me is a whole level! no? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:53:09 |
@Marisa_C @theteacherjames Know your enemy! And have a solid strategy for each and every task #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:54:04 |
Just knowing what the test is testing (though a bit deeper than 'English') helps. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:54:08 |
Would your toolkit include Revision techniques such as revision cards or Quizlets for the techies out there? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:54:25 |
@Marisa_C yes, but think about FCE grade boundaries and the way cambridge levels tie together. 50% at FCE is PET 80% is CAE #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:54:29 |
Mindmaps for vocab fields and collocations #ELTchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:55:11 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C @theteacherjames Totally agree. Quick reading, prioritising Qs, etc, prioritising times of intense focus. #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:55:34 |
@Marisa_C yes -quizlet good! most exam book units already on quizlet as well. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:55:35 |
@teflgeek I agree that the just to C2 level is the most dramatic one and takes a LOT more than 100 hours but lower down not sure #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2016-01-20T12:55:43 |
Am having connectivity issues (gkrrr) - #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:56:00 |
Mindmaps of functional exponents for standard exchanges #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-01-20T12:56:04 |
hello Everyone. Just in time to pick up the transcript :-)What's the topic today? #ELTchat |
| GlenysHanson |
2016-01-20T12:56:47 |
Have to go. Bye everyone. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:56:47 |
@teflgeek share a quizzlet link your ss know pls? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:57:00 |
@GlenysHanson cheers Gleny see u soon #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:57:08 |
@Marisa_C from B1 to B2? Depends on the student but at least 100, prob closer to 200? #eltchat |
| getgreatenglish |
2016-01-20T12:57:14 |
@Marisa_C Yes, definitely cards. Physical, & discarding or putting them in a different place when learned gives shows achievement. #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:57:32 |
RT @theteacherjames: One of the most crucial aspects of any exam class is making the sts completely at ease with the test. No nerves on the… |
| yitzha_sarwono |
2016-01-20T12:57:49 |
RT @Marisa_C: @getgreatenglish ... a self access listening in a wiki @yitzha_sarwono THAT's a great accelerator :-) #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T12:58:15 |
Quizlet search for Objective FCE : #eltchat https://t.co/9BjhbMKOht |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:58:18 |
Any useful apps for vocabulary revision? Some colleagues of mine have announced a great grammar app - will keep u posted if Ok #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2016-01-20T12:58:35 |
RT @teflgeek Quizlet search for Objective FCE : #eltchat https://t.co/3z7f6Jv2Yc thanks :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2016-01-20T13:01:09 |
@Marisa_C Thanks. Haven't got time to scroll down :-) #ELTchat |
| StudioAcademic |
2016-01-20T13:01:09 |
Thanks for an interesting #eltchat, time to duck out. Bye all! |
| teflgeek |
2016-01-20T13:01:34 |
@Marisa_C do a mock in the first week. find the areas to focus on! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
2016-01-20T13:01:57 |
Thanks for the interesting chat everyone, see you next week. Do we have a volunteer for the summary? #ELTchat |
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