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ELTchat |
2015-12-02T11:59:25 |
How do you use authentic materials in a low-level ESP classroom? Join us #ELT people #teachers #EFL #ELTchat #ESP #EAP |
Shaunwilden |
2015-12-02T11:59:34 |
RT @ELTchat: How do you use authentic materials in a low-level ESP classroom? Join us #ELT people #teachers #EFL #ELTchat #ESP #EAP |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:00:39 |
Greetings from still sunny Athens - Who's around for #ELTchat ? |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:04:08 |
Hi everybody. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:04:30 |
Hello @GlenysHanson - how are you? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:05:30 |
Hello #ELTchat ppl - welcome and sorry am late was doing exams |
Shaunwilden |
2015-12-02T12:06:00 |
@Marisa_C Did you pass? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:06:10 |
@Marisa_C How did it go? #ELTchat :-P |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:06:20 |
@angelos_bollas Fine & hope you have lots to say on this subject - I don't! #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:06:29 |
No I'm afraid I failed yet again :-) #eltchat https://t.co/vVYlL4pbuv |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:06:45 |
@tom_flaherty we're discussing your topic today - Join us #ELTchat |
bhrbahar |
2015-12-02T12:07:02 |
@ELTchat actually its a bit difficult to use thm while teaching low leve cause you need to spend time to analyse if its appropriate #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:07:06 |
@angelos_bollas Was a bit stressful with inspection but we had a very good report #eltchat |
ambartosik |
2015-12-02T12:07:41 |
RT @ram_diane: Tutela webinar "Collaborating in the Creating of Rubrics V" Thursday, Dec 3rd 8:30 Eastern #CDNESL #LINCCHAT #CDNESL #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:08:02 |
I think the first thing that you need to do is find them and save/curate them for future use - lots can be used out there #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:08:15 |
Hi @bhrbahar - what do you mean analyse? #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-12-02T12:08:24 |
@Marisa_C No surprises there then, I told you to study! #ELTchat |
bhrbahar |
2015-12-02T12:08:26 |
#ELTchat * to analyse whether its appropriate or not for sts needs,level, insterest... |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:09:10 |
@Shaunwilden am a bit slow wot ken i sei? #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:09:28 |
Hello @fionaljp and welcome :-) Don't forget the hashtag, please #ELTchat :) https://t.co/7GiURx4ILn |
MsKuiper |
2015-12-02T12:09:31 |
RT @ELTchat: How do you use authentic materials in a low-level ESP classroom? Join us #ELT people #teachers #EFL #ELTchat #ESP #EAP |
Shaunwilden |
2015-12-02T12:09:39 |
@Marisa_C Oh you dont have to tell me, have known you longer enough to already know that ;-) #ELTchat |
MsKuiper |
2015-12-02T12:09:43 |
RT @ELTchat: 30 more mins left to vote - Have YOU voted for #ELTchat? https://t.co/Nj69OQffCe https://t.co/K5iBcKHo5R |
ELTchat |
2015-12-02T12:10:07 |
You can always use @Nurph for the chat https://t.co/IJomO2u6FL #ELTchat |
MsKuiper |
2015-12-02T12:10:11 |
RT @angelos_bollas: It's voting time again :-D #ELTchat people follow the link and cast your vote: https://t.co/I6svMpPInp https://t.co/h2o… |
fionaljp |
2015-12-02T12:10:14 |
@GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas Hello #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:10:48 |
Good point - authentic mats related to Ss' needs (remember ESP in Q) and level - How do u do that? #eltchat https://t.co/iczxzSFpcF |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:11:34 |
For example - do u use a readability scale #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:11:48 |
Lots of tools for curation out there. Pinterest, scoop, etc. #ELTchat - even Twitter's fav and FB save functions https://t.co/bCQE3CTvMy |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:12:11 |
RT @Marisa_C: For example - do u use a readability scale #eltchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:12:19 |
Hello #eltchat! just got home from school, what's the topic? |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:12:46 |
@naomishema ESP and authentic materials #ELTchat - Welcome Naomi :) |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:13:03 |
Hello? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:13:44 |
@Marisa_C I don't :( #ELTchat - What about the others? #ELTchat |
anamoranis |
2015-12-02T12:14:05 |
RT @Marisa_C: Good morning #ELTchat - it's Wednesday and vote! 1/what works 4u? 2/Auth mats for low levels 3/ Exam classes pls RT https://… |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:14:53 |
@angelos_bollas if stuff on the web u can always copy-paste into a word doc for readability - may be tools on the web? #eltchat |
MsKuiper |
2015-12-02T12:15:31 |
RT @Marisa_C: Hello? #ELTchat |
MsKuiper |
2015-12-02T12:15:50 |
RT @angelos_bollas: Lots of tools for curation out there. Pinterest, scoop, etc. #ELTchat - even Twitter's fav and FB save functions https:… |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:15:53 |
@anamoranis Hello we are talking about No 2 (was voted on the blog) #eltchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:15:56 |
Are there certain readablity scales people here use? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:16:34 |
@bhrbahar so Ts need to be on the lookout - not easy to find mats for low levels right? #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:16:38 |
Just found this: https://t.co/tY6Re3eds6 - I think it's not free though. #ELTchat https://t.co/Mqb2UCFjsQ |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:17:41 |
This is free: https://t.co/rduUUnEIbA #ELTchat https://t.co/IqaMvGQFZq |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:17:43 |
Looks free to me #eltchat Great! https://t.co/gEPZpHI9EM |
anamoranis |
2015-12-02T12:18:06 |
RT @leoselivan: New post on my blog: 10 things you can do with BBC's 10 things you didn't know last week https://t.co/eAxQL2Fzoo #elt #eltc… |
MsKuiper |
2015-12-02T12:18:19 |
RT @english247: Winter has begun in the UK. Check out our free winter-themed #English lessons! https://t.co/7iDudi08L2 #eltchat https://t.c… |
MsKuiper |
2015-12-02T12:18:58 |
RT @Marisa_C: Good morning #ELTchat - it's Wednesday and vote! 1/what works 4u? 2/Auth mats for low levels 3/ Exam classes pls RT https://… |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:19:09 |
@Marisa_C @bhrbahar I found this: https://t.co/aQXy3d2Twa looks familiar, Marisa? :P #ELTchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:19:26 |
@angelos_bollas Thanks! #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:19:33 |
@naomishema Do you use any? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:20:20 |
Lol this is where I save stuff for lower levels - general not ESP tho - :-D #ELTchat - may be u cd do same & share https://t.co/2vAxAUt3K5 |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:21:07 |
@angelos_bollas Nah, my deaf students don't know 90% of the vocab. in their material. everyhting would seem 2 hard 4 them #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:21:11 |
@Marisa_C Have never taught ESP but it would be a good school project (or an #ELTchat one) |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:21:11 |
wonderful tool for searching texts by readability level has disappeared - used to be called twurdy :-( #eltchat |
bhrbahar |
2015-12-02T12:21:32 |
@Marisa_C Definitely yes. Usually some tickets can be used as a material for low levels #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:22:13 |
Since finding suitable mats difficult - what can we do with OTHER auth mats? Can we discuss this instead pls #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:22:25 |
@bhrbahar That's a good idea - never thought of using tickets. #ELTchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:22:33 |
#eltchat tickets are a great source! |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:23:35 |
tickets are good for comparatives, for numbers, dates, even 4 family members (price 4 a family) #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:23:43 |
Some genre analysis work seems relevant to ESP (am thinking of BE and/or EAP) - to raise awareness #ELTchat https://t.co/GnA3qGwNp2 |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:25:07 |
hotel registration forms r also useful for weak ss to learn & discuss many things #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:25:38 |
Sure but genre savvy Ts few & far tween - no? #ELTchat https://t.co/oOfgedNNmk |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:27:02 |
@Marisa_C True. Yet, all Ts could surely do at least some style-related work with authentic mats. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:28:18 |
Would you use authentic materials as models for the ESP SS to try and produce (in writing or speaking) similar texts? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:28:29 |
Some good books available even on google books - seek 'genre analysis' and ye shall find! #eltchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:29:15 |
I don't know if having ss generate their own tickets is a useful goal, but it can lead 2 other writing #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:29:57 |
One good way of using authentic stuff is to use only sections/chunks, not the whole text #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:30:12 |
In what contexts would tickets be useful with ESP students? #eltchat https://t.co/sU51W7zDkt |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:30:53 |
So, no need to find materials suitable ONLY for low levels. - This makes all materials suitable for all. #eltchat https://t.co/69a1kCX8xJ |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:31:28 |
tickets r good for comparatives, for numbers, dates, even 4 family members (price 4 a family) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-12-02T12:34:04 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas Nah I’m listening #eltchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:35:08 |
Is it just my connection or is twitter very slow today? #eltchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:35:19 |
I used to get Ss to create the content by producing how tos: a gear box works, give an injection, serve a meal, etc. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:35:59 |
Did they have a model as a guide or did they have to do it from scratch? Very interesting @GlenysHanson #eltchat https://t.co/1Hy7AyY0Hm |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:36:00 |
lovely idea! #eltchat https://t.co/ruquuf7Art |
bhrbahar |
2015-12-02T12:36:13 |
@angelos_bollas @naomishema #eltchat for writing a parag. Or making a question related to the event(asking/answering) |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:36:40 |
I like this idea - and lots of You tube how to's w/o words too Ss can add own text #eltchat then compare w/ original https://t.co/3qexGQnSg2 |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:37:04 |
@bhrbahar @naomishema So, it could be any context - not ESP specific #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:37:32 |
@Marisa_C You mean like adding subtitles to videos? #eltchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:37:35 |
Yes, terrific! #eltchat https://t.co/5pSdcPVRzn |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:37:53 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @Marisa_C You mean like adding subtitles to videos? #eltchat |
bhrbahar |
2015-12-02T12:38:00 |
RT @naomishema: Yes, terrific! #eltchat https://t.co/5pSdcPVRzn |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T12:38:08 |
#eltchat Warning posters are useful, also wall charts/info graphics & tables of numbers in company reports. Also ledgers, P&L statements |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:38:49 |
@getgreatenglish Yes, and any common signs seen at airports, train stations, etc. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:38:52 |
RT @getgreatenglish: #eltchat Warning posters are useful, also wall charts/info graphics & tables of numbers in company reports. Also ledge… |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:38:56 |
Welcome and thanks, Marc :) #eltchat Are you thinking of Business English context? https://t.co/fXXvitWqQn |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:39:02 |
@angelos_bollas No model. Brainstorm for vocab. Make diagrams, images on the board. Oral as a whole group; written in small groups #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:39:08 |
#eltchat https://t.co/lmbJUek9WW |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:39:24 |
@angelos_bollas Could be subtitles or verbalising instructions #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:40:36 |
The basic principle is for our SS to produce things they would produce in their context, right? #eltchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:41:22 |
RT @angelos_bollas: The basic principle is for our SS to produce things they would produce in their context, right? #eltchat |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T12:41:36 |
#eltchat https://t.co/QDb4urZEUv |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:41:50 |
Don't forget the hashtag, please :) #eltchat https://t.co/60yyVnpf3M |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T12:42:18 |
#eltchat https://t.co/HFYgi2M6BN |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:43:04 |
Use Nurph - it adds the hashtag for you. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:43:07 |
@getgreatenglish so u would allow translations as well? #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:44:25 |
I would - esp with low levels. #eltchat https://t.co/5DR5IZqsGS |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:45:58 |
I think in ESP classes Ss usually know the terminilogy of their field (smtms better than the T) #eltchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:46:33 |
With lots of diagrams, images, etc. I never found translation necessary. #ELTchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T12:46:44 |
Sometimes that helps 2 encourage ss - you teach me things too! #eltchat https://t.co/AKEPnzGq4z |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:46:55 |
I also like using authentic materials for pleasure - e.g. reading something for fun. To let some steam off #eltchat |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T12:47:18 |
#eltchat https://t.co/pInAwSjZmM |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:47:36 |
@fionaljp @GlenysHanson https://t.co/Ifuc6cxCUX #eltchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:47:42 |
@Marisa_C I agree. It's putting the English around the techie words that's the Ss problem. At all levels. #ELTchat |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T12:48:04 |
@Marisa_C Definitely "Make this better!" #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:48:29 |
@GlenysHanson yes - and knowing how formal or familiar one can be #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:49:08 |
There's also a difference between SS who live in an Engl speaking country and those who don't #ELTchat - auth mats more difficult for latter |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:49:28 |
@getgreatenglish have no problem with use of L1 but gradually that needs to be reduced as Ss go up levels #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:52:03 |
Am posting 2 #ELTchat summaries on the use of Authentic materials that have sections for ESP. Here's the first one: https://t.co/EytG58tVwU |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T12:52:21 |
#eltchat I've used my own email and Facebook posts, too. |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:52:28 |
And here's the second one: https://t.co/V4hVLH0L7M #eltchat https://t.co/bepaqU43v9 |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:52:39 |
@Marisa_C @getgreatenglish What do you use the L1 for? Explain meanings, give instructions, get feedback ??? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:52:49 |
I like using my FB and Twitter #eltchat https://t.co/7DZFoH6jg6 |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:53:49 |
@GlenysHanson instructions 4 complext stuff - also contextual guesswork with touch stuff - give L1 Ss find the right l2 word #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:55:01 |
@getgreatenglish that is quite an advanced skill (I have taught translation to prof ppl) not for elementary surely? methinks #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:56:12 |
I meant 'tough stuff" - :-D sorry! #eltchat https://t.co/PnLih8o5KT |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:57:10 |
@getgreatenglish would be nice to know more - if u have a blog post or sth would be great #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:57:21 |
#ELTchat is about to finish for today - Would anyone like to help and write the summary, please? |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T12:57:22 |
#eltchat sorry about missing hashtags ! Duh! |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:58:08 |
#ELTchAT (just RT ur tweet) https://t.co/avbHekdreS |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T12:58:46 |
@angelos_bollas https://t.co/YCtHsUn3hU is down for maintenance. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:58:47 |
#eltchat https://t.co/hm6pnAmXgP |
ELTchat |
2015-12-02T12:59:03 |
Who would like to write the summary of this week's chat? #eltchat https://t.co/jvnwELgezI |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T12:59:32 |
RT @ELTchat: Who would like to write the summary of this week's chat? #eltchat https://t.co/jvnwELgezI |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T12:59:35 |
@GlenysHanson The link will be the same when the site it back up - thanks for letting us know, Glenys :) #eltchat |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T13:00:09 |
@angelos_bollas I'll do it seeing as I was late! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T13:00:47 |
#ELTchat have to go - thank you all for turning up - twitter has been a bit pesky today but hope sm ideas useful cheers - see you next week |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T13:01:05 |
Many thanks, Marc! :) @SueAnnan will send you the transcript later. Many thanks again! #eltchat https://t.co/qbitvqdNaM |
fionaljp |
2015-12-02T13:01:11 |
RT @Marisa_C: @fionaljp @GlenysHanson https://t.co/Ifuc6cxCUX #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-12-02T13:01:20 |
@getgreatenglish @angelos_bollas oh great and do send something about L1 #eltchat |
naomishema |
2015-12-02T13:02:09 |
I'll be on vacation next week, hurrah! #eltchat I'll be able to attend more relaxed! |
angelos_bollas |
2015-12-02T13:02:35 |
Thank you all for being here today - Next week we'll meet at 21.00 GMT :-D #ELTchat Looking forward to seeing you online. |
Shaunwilden |
2015-12-02T13:02:44 |
RT @angelos_bollas: Thank you all for being here today - Next week we'll meet at 21.00 GMT :-D #ELTchat Looking forward to seeing you onlin… |
fionaljp |
2015-12-02T13:03:09 |
Thanks for link to Nurph #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-12-02T13:06:34 |
Thanks in particular for links to Readability test tool and https://t.co/mc7BMiQHZe #ELTchat |
getgreatenglish |
2015-12-02T13:26:54 |
@SueAnnan I have the transcript by grabbing all the #eltchat tweets and will embed them into the summary post. Is that what you usually do? |
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