| username |
utc date |
status |
| ELTchat |
11/25/2015 21:01 |
It's time for ELTchat - are you ready? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:01 |
Yes - ready #eltchat https://t.co/uFx3MUDjak |
| ELTchat |
11/25/2015 21:02 |
Our topic is Top down vs bottom up reading and if you are not familiar with the terms, quick check here https://t.co/uNvTzM8erI #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:03 |
@Marisa_C Hi #Eltchat! Ready to read and roll?! )) |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:04 |
@Marisa_C @ELTchat hello, I can't Nurph yet, does it matter? #eltchat |
| ELTchat |
11/25/2015 21:04 |
https://t.co/2URUvAerZI here is our channel for ELTchat on @nurph #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:05 |
@KateLloyd05 @ELTchat it doesn't matter at all - u can use browser or tweetdeck, whichever more convenient #eltchat |
| ELTchat |
11/25/2015 21:06 |
Hi Glenys and Carrie :-) welcome #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:06 |
Hi! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:07 |
Have you had a chance to look thru a quick definition ? #eltchat |
| bhrbahar |
11/25/2015 21:07 |
@ELTchat #eltchat hi :) |
| GlenysHanson |
11/25/2015 21:07 |
Hi everybody. #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:07 |
@StubbsCarrie Hi Carrie!! Now you can breathe! Great to have you with us )) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:07 |
@bhrbahar @ELTchat Good evening Bahat and welcome #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:07 |
@GlenysHanson Hi Glenys! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:08 |
@bhrbahar @ELTchat Hi Bahar and welcome! #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:08 |
@StubbsCarrie just finished M2? Wow! That must feel good. #eltchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:08 |
@HadaLitim Thanks! It is a relief to have finished that last LSA. ;-) #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:09 |
@margaalfonso We're just beginning a chat about Top DOwn and Bottom Up reading strategies, you can join us perhaps #eltchat |
| bhrbahar |
11/25/2015 21:09 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat yes, i use both strategies depending on my lesson objectives |
| TESLCanada |
11/25/2015 21:09 |
RT @ELTchat: Our topic is Top down vs bottom up reading and if you are not familiar with the terms, quick check here https://t.co/uNvTzM8er… |
| ELTchat |
11/25/2015 21:10 |
@alemanniello hi and welcome - to participate and interact type #ELTchat on EVERY tweet you send |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:11 |
@LahiffP @Liam_ELT our #ELTchat on top down vs bottom up processing just got going - cna u join? |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:11 |
@StubbsCarrie Carrie you can use #nurph so you don't have to type the #eltchat hashtag for every tweet https://t.co/Hw1sC4I2Hg |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:12 |
@HadaLitim Thanks. #ELTchat |
| ELTchat |
11/25/2015 21:12 |
If you can join our @nurph channel it's much easier #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:13 |
RT @ELTchat: If you can join our @nurph channel it's much easier #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:14 |
There aer some Qs in the topic - shall we do No 1? Which subskills of reading with TD and which with BU reading? #eltchat if at all |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:14 |
RT @Marisa_C: There aer some Qs in the topic - shall we do No 1? Which subskills of reading with TD and which with BU reading? #eltchat if … |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:14 |
@Marisa_C Shall we start with Top Down? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:15 |
Is everyone familiar with the long list of reading subskills in Munby, or Nuttall, or Grellet? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:15 |
@HadaLitim Top Down sounds good to me #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
11/25/2015 21:15 |
Skim reading = top down and scanning/intensive = bottom-up. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:16 |
But am wondering why we are talking about this - are we responding to some learner issues or not? What are they? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:16 |
Reading for gist and TDpredicting #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:17 |
that came out all topsy turvy! Reading for gist and predicting are TD #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:17 |
@Marisa_C for me the issue w/ top down reading is to stop students worrying about/translating every word in a text #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:18 |
@HadaLitim do you believe in a psycholinguistic model then? cos I read that we don't predict nor read for gist. #ELTchat |
| alemanniello |
11/25/2015 21:18 |
How do we process information? Top down Vs. Bottom up https://t.co/m1qpYzcPMY #ELTchat |
| languageeteach |
11/25/2015 21:18 |
Trying to activate learners' schemata/raise interest in topic so some predictions exs useful #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:18 |
For me, TD tells me what type of text it is - is it an ad, a timetable, an article etc.. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:18 |
TD processing relies on schematic knowledge - hence 'schema theory of reading' aids comprehension - i don't see it as a subskill #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:19 |
Thanks Kate - THIS is the main issue - trying to achieve comprehension by a linear processing of a text #eltchat https://t.co/ZRpZtFaI6p |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:19 |
@Marisa_C this could be identifying the genre of a text #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:20 |
yes and mobilising what one DOES know about such texts - (procedural knowledge) #eltchat https://t.co/3JXyMT0LK3 |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:21 |
@KateLloyd05 why shouldn't Learners decode every word in a text - other than it takes a long time.. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:21 |
Not all texts need that kind of detailed understanding - we SAMPLE texts when we read in the real world #eltchat https://t.co/56mHhvFAvk |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:22 |
@Marisa_C students already know how to do that. why do we need to teach them it again? #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:22 |
@Liam_ELT at home they can I guess, but in class and also in real time situations, there isn't time. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:22 |
@Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 If they'r doin it to learn new vocab why not? But to undrstand the genral meaning or get th ans to a Qn,not! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:23 |
That's a really good question and one that has no easy answer - are L1 skills automatically transfered? #eltchat https://t.co/XFufxFgygk |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:23 |
@Liam_ELT plus helps to stop them panicking at any new word, which I find translators tend to do #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:23 |
@KateLloyd05 then surely the solution isn't to tell them to ignore new words.. that won't stop the panic imo #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:24 |
@HadaLitim @Liam_ELT how much do we read by decoding every word? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:24 |
@Liam_ELT @Marisa_C We're trying to get them to grasp the meaning of a text in another lang and checking they can #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:24 |
@HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 why would we need them to understand something that they don't have all the vocab for? #ELTchat |
| teacherules |
11/25/2015 21:24 |
RT @Marisa_C: That's a really good question and one that has no easy answer - are L1 skills automatically transfered? #eltchat https://t.c… |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:24 |
@Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 no - lots of Ts THINK it will - reassurance doesnt always work #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:24 |
@KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim there is an argument out there that says EVERYTHING!! #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:25 |
@Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 Because in real life or (uni) studies we don't always have/need all the vocab of a text to achieve our task #eltchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:26 |
@HadaLitim @Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 And decoding every word is distracting. #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:26 |
@Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 Quite possibly. Can you share more? #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:26 |
@StubbsCarrie @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 it's distracting to learn English words in an English class? #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:27 |
@StubbsCarrie @Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 Decoding may be needed for a specific reason so it's a skill they also need #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:27 |
For me the reason for using TD processing is to PRIME so that Ss can deal with the unknown -but I think this is not explained to Ss #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:28 |
So Ss think the T is peculiar or doesn't know the words - if one is to do this TELL the Ss why and use BU for language exploration #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:28 |
@StubbsCarrie @HadaLitim @Liam_ELT isn't this more on a chunks of language level than a word level? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:29 |
and because it produces very slow readers #eltchat https://t.co/5TeEKgMsDT |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:29 |
@Liam_ELT @HadaLitim yes, could you share some info please #eltchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:30 |
@KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim @Liam_ELT I agree with chunks of language. #ELTchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:30 |
@KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim this article talks about it: https://t.co/pu87N6o8Qt #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:30 |
@Marisa_C I also feel that TD processing is more likely to develop critical thinking #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:30 |
@KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim it says that the best predictor of reading ability is word recognition. #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:31 |
@Liam_ELT @HadaLitim thanks but can't access it. Anything more recent than 1995? #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:32 |
@KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim https://t.co/k6804ENmXq #ELTchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:32 |
2010 any better? Paran's is the main paper that talks about it - let me see if I can rustle up a copy somewhere.. #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:33 |
@Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 Thanks Liam #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:34 |
@Marisa_C will using only TD strategies not produce quicker yet less accurate readers? #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:34 |
@Liam_ELT @Marisa_C But I do not think it is a question of only teaching TD strategies #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:34 |
@Liam_ELT there is other research that suggests we DON"T process every lexical item but 'grab' and 'sample' chunks #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:35 |
@Liam_ELT yes, as an ex-scientist I'm sceptical about unreplicated research! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:35 |
@Liam_ELT @Marisa_C I don't think that one could/would teach only 1 strategy Both have a purpose and can be useful for the learner #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:35 |
RT @Marisa_C: @Liam_ELT there is other research that suggests we DON"T process every lexical item but 'grab' and 'sample' chunks #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:36 |
Agree-both ways - in fact a variety of ways of reading suited to different genres and purposes seems better #eltchat https://t.co/sG8KifRetZ |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:36 |
@StubbsCarrie @Liam_ELT @Marisa_C Exactly. It's about identifying the reasons why we may or may not use one or the other #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:37 |
and purposes #eltchat https://t.co/q7hrnIv0XN |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:37 |
here's Paran http://203.72.145.166/ELT/files/50-1-3.pdf #ELTchat |
| ELTchat |
11/25/2015 21:38 |
The next Q is 'Can we teach Ss to process TD or BU? What do you think? #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:38 |
@ELTchat Yes- but perhaps as strategies #ELTchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:39 |
@ELTchat I think we can tell them to do it, but I'm not convinced it can be taught. #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:39 |
I think the strength of a T is in he/she being able to use the appropriate strategies to achieve the aims based on the ss' needs #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:39 |
@ELTchat I'm not sure we can teach them to, more give opportunities for practice and support #eltchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:40 |
@Liam_ELT @ELTchat I disagree. I think that a strategy for dealing with a text that is slightly beyond my #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:40 |
@Liam_ELT @ELTchat ability would be helpful #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:40 |
@Liam_ELT I think you are probably right - not sure myself if awareness raising means a strategy can be consciously utilised #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:41 |
@Liam_ELT @ELTchat I kind of agree wth as, if that if the std can't do it in their lang then doing it in anoth is questionable #eltchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:41 |
@Marisa_C @Liam_ELT Can TD and BU strategies in reading be compared to listening? #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:41 |
Because Vandergrift and Goh argue for explicit teaching of strategies to help ss in TD and BU #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:41 |
strategies #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:42 |
The only strategy which Ss report later being able to apply is recognising logical relations in text to guess vocabylary #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:42 |
@StubbsCarrie @Marisa_C @Liam_ELT I've been wondering that #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:42 |
but if the std has this capacity in their own lang then the ability to do it in English may need nurturing #eltchat https://t.co/nSI3QpCaBt |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:43 |
@Liam_ELT @KateLloyd05 I think even if it cannot be taught it diffuses anxiety and panic #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:43 |
@StubbsCarrie @Marisa_C @Liam_ELT To a certain extent, I believe so. In the broad sense #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:43 |
@StubbsCarrie @ELTchat I think the strategy here is find out the meaning of the words you don't understand. #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:43 |
@Liam_ELT @ELTchat I agree. #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:43 |
@HadaLitim @Liam_ELT @ELTchat agree with this. Sometimes need encouragement to transfer the skill #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:44 |
like understanding from context? #eltchat https://t.co/tn3HigJVgk |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 21:44 |
But also, to what extent can the reader find that out from the context? #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:44 |
@KateLloyd05 @Liam_ELT @ELTchat yes I think so. And to be reassured that it is the same. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:44 |
Idea from Widdowson - also mentioned in Grellet https://t.co/A5VSv1Q8oA #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:45 |
Late entrant! #eltchat Giving feedback to Cert. TESOL part-timers until just now. |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:45 |
@StubbsCarrie not always that's for sure!! I've tried in other languages and it defo doesn't always work. Especially for precise #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:46 |
@LahiffP mmm we 're almost done here :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:46 |
@LahiffP Hi there! Thanks for joining us #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:46 |
@Marisa_C odd. This link comes up forbidden for me #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:46 |
RT @Marisa_C: Idea from Widdowson - also mentioned in Grellet https://t.co/A5VSv1Q8oA #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:47 |
@LahiffP hope it went well. Welcome #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:47 |
I think the point that's got lost here is what kind of objective for teaching reading can we reasonably have for a lesson? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:47 |
@KateLloyd05 it's just a blog post strange - again? https://t.co/tb4TuzO0pv #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:47 |
Can we teach TD/BU strategies, or do we just encourage their use for another purpose? #ELTchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:48 |
@Marisa_C yup still. Will try again tomorrow on a PC. Perhaps it's Ukraine IP! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:48 |
@Liam_ELT that's what we have been discussing - some of us not sure this can be taught for autonomous use #eltchat - in class ok |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:48 |
@Marisa_C Sorry, last week for these trainees so they needed a bit extra :) #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:49 |
@Liam_ELT Agree wth ths point We learn them in r own lang to develop critical thinkin so in L2 it's more abt reconnecting thm to it #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:49 |
@LahiffP no worries - we have not actually solved any major issues but chatting nicely :-) #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:50 |
@Marisa_C @LahiffP we know what we don't know.. which is a good start! #ELTchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:50 |
@Liam_ELT I still think it is a useful way to think what different types of tasks you can do with a text. #ELTChat |
| alemanniello |
11/25/2015 21:50 |
How can you predict the meaning of language you haven't heard or read yet? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:50 |
@Marisa_C @LahiffP Cruising through this one )) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:51 |
@alemanniello You're predicting the content of the text, not the lang, right? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:51 |
You don't - you may predict content (some of which u don't know how to express in the L2) #eltchat and some lang https://t.co/eaqMgPZHVw |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:51 |
@HadaLitim @Liam_ELT I like this idea of reconnecting then with skills they already have. #ELTChat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:52 |
I think with the receptive skills it's less about teaching the skill than it's exploiting the text to get at the language.. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:52 |
adults may be (not all - not my Afghani refugees for example) or YLs - some things from scratch #eltchat https://t.co/RnKIFH7vdS |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:52 |
Shall we run through some interesting activities for reading? ENough time? #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:52 |
@HadaLitim @alemanniello Aren't we always predicting? Fundamental part of human psychology I thought #ELTChat |
| eilymurphy |
11/25/2015 21:53 |
@alemanniello Ss could use sth like cloze and concordance from https://t.co/kV1MRRxB61 but autonomousn not class I 'spose #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:53 |
@LahiffP @alemanniello Absolutely! Instinctively #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:53 |
What objectives would you specify in a lesson where you want to do all this? #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:54 |
@Liam_ELT Exploitation is always a good thing :D #ELTChat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:54 |
@Marisa_C my teachers still use reading for gist and detail.....#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:54 |
Always predicting - wrong or right no matter (garden path theory) #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 21:55 |
@Marisa_C I'm starting to think you can't have a reading/listening teaching objective as you're not teaching them, only training #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:55 |
@KateLloyd05 Grellet draws a nice distinction - Qs for content and Qs for Lang - can be seen as relating to TD and BU #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:56 |
@Marisa_C I have missed alot, but do we thing we can have objectives that begin, To develop reading skills ... ? #ElTChat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:56 |
@Marisa_C For a TD ex for eg. To develop Ss' confidence that they can gain some understanding of a text by predicting #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:56 |
RT @Marisa_C: @KateLloyd05 Grellet draws a nice distinction - Qs for content and Qs for Lang - can be seen as relating to TD and BU #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:57 |
@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 I like that! I think I'll need to read it again tomorrow and check if I really like it ;) #eltchat |
| alemanniello |
11/25/2015 21:57 |
@Marisa_C I agree. You can predict content / information.#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:57 |
1 of 2 A language lesson that deals only with strategies is a problem - we use texts for the language .. #eltchat https://t.co/38Fw8yF6Fd |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 21:57 |
@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C I find it tricky to write decent gist questions they often end up just being easy scanning questions. #ELTChat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:57 |
Is it grellet developing reading skills? I'll bookmark it #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:58 |
2 od 2 ... embedded in them not for just the content - #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 21:58 |
@LahiffP @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C same here #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:58 |
@KateLloyd05 yes Francoise Grellet #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 21:59 |
@LahiffP very few are apart from main ideas - but like which section heading goes where IS gist or give a heading etc #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 21:59 |
@Marisa_C but do we not ask teachers to do it on CELTA and Delta courses? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:00 |
@alemanniello if the Ss know the topic and genre they can predict some language as well - helps T see what they know #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:00 |
yes of course we do #eltchat https://t.co/6kKIPXL7h8 |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 22:00 |
@LahiffP @Marisa_C match the pictures? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:01 |
@KateLloyd05 @LahiffP yes depends on pics of course #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:02 |
Dr @skrashen says L2 acquisition happens via compelling reading & listening Ss do autonomously -#eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 22:02 |
Would you accept: To develop reading skills by noticing use of narrative tenses in narrative texts. #ELTChat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:02 |
Time's up guys! Would anyone care to write the summary of this chat? #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 22:03 |
@LahiffP @Marisa_C I like to get them to read quickly and tell partner what they now know. Is that gist? I'm not sure #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:03 |
I think TD processes in a lesson create compelling reasons for Ss to want to read some of the rubbish we put in front of them #eltchat ... |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:03 |
@LahiffP Would that be a TD or BU strategy? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:04 |
...and to acquire some of the language for which the text serves as a 'placeholder' #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:04 |
@Marisa_C lool #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 22:04 |
@Marisa_C @skrashen Don't they need some noticing work as well, both on content and language? #ELTChat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:04 |
@KateLloyd05 @LahiffP @Marisa_C It sounds like it to me #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:05 |
@LahiffP @skrashen they do - later in a lesson - otherwise why do they take classes, for strategic develipment? #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 22:05 |
@Marisa_C didn't work with this week's book text on British tv shows. Crashed and burned ;0) #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 22:05 |
@Marisa_C I agree! They make for good reasons to read, even if they don't develop an bondfide sub-skill #ELTChat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:05 |
We're almost 5 minutes over time. I'm gonna leave you guys to this. I can see how warmed up you are but 1am is bed time in Hadaland #eltchat |
| Liam_ELT |
11/25/2015 22:06 |
@HadaLitim thanks! enjoyed this a lot! goodnight! #ELTchat |
| StubbsCarrie |
11/25/2015 22:06 |
@HadaLitim Good night Hada. I am also going to sign out here. Thanks for the interesting discussion #ELTchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 22:06 |
@HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C I've been going for, is it happy or sad, positive or negative, a,b, or c That sort of thing. #ELTChat |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 22:06 |
@HadaLitim goodnight! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:06 |
Thanks everyone. This was interesting in that it showed us how grey this whole subject is. CHat soon again I hope #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:07 |
@LahiffP yes - check earlier part of transcript - #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:07 |
@KateLloyd05 Goodnight Kate! #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 22:07 |
Me too! Have to leave the school before they lock me in #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:08 |
Good night and sweet dreams, ma chere (transcript? )#eltchat https://t.co/hQc2G5Zif3 |
| KateLloyd05 |
11/25/2015 22:08 |
Goodnight all. Given me some reading to do...... #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:08 |
@Marisa_C I asked around but pas de reponse. Is that a hint? :) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:09 |
don't have the transcript thingie any longer :-( #eltchat may be @SueAnnan ?? |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:10 |
Is anyone willing to write a summary of this #ELTchat for our blog please? I think it would be a good post ! |
| LahiffP |
11/25/2015 22:11 |
@Marisa_C I could do it but not until late next week.#ELTChat |
| HadaLitim |
11/25/2015 22:12 |
RT @LahiffP: @Marisa_C I could do it but not until late next week.#ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:12 |
@LahiffP that would be superb! Thank you for offering @SueAnnan or @HadaLitim will tweet the transcript soon - next week is fab!!! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:13 |
@HadaLitim you know I met @LahiffP in Dublin :-) #eltchat - we talked more here than there :-D |
| Marisa_C |
11/25/2015 22:14 |
Good night all - bonne nuit and Kalinichta!!! #eltchat |
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