KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T19:45:23 |
RT @HadaLitim: Do teachers actually use lesson plan formats taught in all the major TESOL training courses/diploma? Are they useful? Our #e… |
KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T19:47:57 |
Waiting for #eltchat to start, I made it for my second time and for the topic I voted for! #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T19:48:34 |
@ITLegge great Helen! )) #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T19:51:24 |
Hi @KarimaEnnouri and @Noreen_Lam thanks for joining us. We'll be kicking off in 10 mins #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T19:57:38 |
RT @HadaLitim: Hi @KarimaEnnouri and @Noreen_Lam thanks for joining us. We'll be kicking off in 10 mins #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T19:59:52 |
Hi #ELTchat peeps! Ready for tonight's discussion on 'lesson plan formats taught in all the major TESOL training courses/diploma? |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:01:49 |
Hi @KarimaEnnouri and @Noreen_Lam! Anyone else out there? #ELTchat |
MarekKiczkowiak |
2015-10-14T20:02:30 |
@HadaLitim they're completely unrealistic and don't reflect how most Ts plan #eltchat |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T20:02:53 |
Ready though my #eltchat feed seems to reload with delay...hope to keep up with it all! |
eduyorkshire |
2015-10-14T20:03:25 |
#ELTChat @ELTChat #EY15 A FREE conference for Head Teachers and Leaders in education across #Yorkshire http://t.co/9HdlPXwcdW |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:03:35 |
@MarekKiczkowiak Hi Marek! What do you mean? And which type ar eyou referring to? #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:04:25 |
@Noreen_Lam hope so too Noreen #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:05:19 |
Let's start with a basic question to start with. Do you use lesson plans generally? #ELTchat |
MarekKiczkowiak |
2015-10-14T20:05:35 |
@HadaLitim the generic 5 page formal lesson plan you have to produce for the assessed lessons #ELTchat can't recall being taught others |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:06:33 |
@MarekKiczkowiak There's always the 20 page one we needed to produce for Delta! #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:07:01 |
#eltchat Hi everybody. Been trying unsuccessfully to login on Nurph. |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:07:37 |
@GlenysHanson Hi Glenys! Same here so using tweetdeck. Just need to remember the #ELTchat |
KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T20:07:42 |
@HadaLitim In fact I am starting my first job after CELTA next week and I intend to use them again. #ELTchat |
MarekKiczkowiak |
2015-10-14T20:08:03 |
@HadaLitim that's even more preposterous. Can't see the point. Very out-of-touch with day to day planning #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:08:25 |
Use Nurph for our #eltchat, here's the link http://t.co/BCVzYI2ikY |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:09:00 |
@KarimaEnnouri Does your job require you to? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:09:16 |
Hello everyone! #ELTchat |
KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T20:09:21 |
@HadaLitim yes #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:09:27 |
@MarekKiczkowiak DO you think that perhpas they were useful during training just to have us learn to think abt everything #ELTchat |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:09:30 |
my institution has just done away with lesson plans. I still do my own version though #Eltchat |
KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T20:09:34 |
@angelos_bollas Hi #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:10:01 |
@languageeteach Great instituitons! )) Can you describe your own? #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:10:28 |
@angelos_bollas HIII! #eltchat Got through the traffic? |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:10:42 |
@MarekKiczkowiak @HadaLitim I think that Delta LPs are great trainers#ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:11:06 |
#eltchat I don't think I've ever used a written lesson plan. But I've an open mind... more or less... ;-) |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:11:19 |
@HadaLitim Further Education college in the UK. Used to have do one but felt it was taking up too much time #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:11:50 |
@GlenysHanson Me neither - but LPs used in training have allowed me to be able to draft LPs in my mind for all lessons #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:11:54 |
@GlenysHanson That's interesting. What do you mean abt 'open mind'? ANd how have you got away with never using LPs? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:12:29 |
@KarimaEnnouri Good luck! :-) #ELTchat @HadaLitim |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:12:38 |
@languageeteach I agree, waste of time really! Time that could be used on much more productive research #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:12:48 |
#eltchat Why did your institution give up lessons plans, @languageeteach? |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:12:51 |
RT @HadaLitim: @MarekKiczkowiak DO you think that perhpas they were useful during training just to have us learn to think abt everything #E… |
Shaunwilden |
2015-10-14T20:13:33 |
Hi #eltchat finally back on my own sofa but after 27 hours flying too tired to concentrate |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:13:53 |
@angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson Same here. I think that both the CELTA and Delta ones have taught me loads about framing a lesson #ELTchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:13:57 |
I always write a running order to keep track in class but no actual written plan unless observation #eltchat |
MarekKiczkowiak |
2015-10-14T20:14:21 |
@angelos_bollas @HadaLitim thinking process is certainly useful. But putting together a 20 page plan is a waste of time and paper #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:14:27 |
@HadaLitim @GlenysHanson (agree) and thus allows us deviate from frames, too. #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:14:40 |
@Shaunwilden Hey!! Back from Oz! You must be on some serious jetlag #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:14:44 |
#eltchat @hadaLitim I'm open to you convincing me they're useful. French universities can't force teachers to do anything. |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:14:51 |
@MarekKiczkowiak For real-life teaching? I totally agree with you. @HadaLitim #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:15:04 |
@angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson totally #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:15:08 |
Hi everyone - a bit late sorry - tweeting from Toulouse #eltchat and no delta or celta type plans not needed or expected day to day |
KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T20:15:27 |
@angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson I would mix the steps or forget part if I keep them just in my mind. #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:15:31 |
@GlenysHanson I'd be the last to convince ou lol! I don't use them unless I'm asked to #ELTchat |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:15:33 |
@HadaLitim True but I can't break the habit. I need to have some kind of structure. Am I too much of a control freak, I ponder? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:16:02 |
@MarekKiczkowiak @HadaLitim (cont.) but I now work w/ Ts who have nt been trained on LPs & they face many difficulties w/ planning #ELTchat |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T20:16:03 |
When NqT helps a lot to get org but now just imposs 2write detailed LPs for all classes! #eltchat I jot down notes,special areas of caution. |
MarekKiczkowiak |
2015-10-14T20:16:15 |
@angelos_bollas @HadaLitim we're not taught different more realistic ways of planning #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:16:23 |
But explicit plans important as part of the training #eltchat - and if like @langueteach u get used to them u created a great database |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:16:26 |
@languageeteach What do your plan look like these days? #eltchat How detailed are they? |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:16:33 |
@Shaunwilden Welcome back! #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:16:51 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat says hello to Toulouse! :-) |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:17:20 |
@Marisa_C Salut!!! How was Entrecote? OOps it's LPs right now ;) #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-10-14T20:17:40 |
@HadaLitim ooo just a wee bit :) #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:18:23 |
@KarimaEnnouri @GlenysHanson Some written points always helpful - esp. in the beginning. #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:18:25 |
@Shaunwilden I bet! You might start meeting rabbits and all sorts if you stick around. Best go and chill #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:18:29 |
@KarimaEnnouri @angelos_bollas #ELTchat My guide was what the students showed they needed in the "here & now". |
KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T20:18:46 |
@HadaLitim @languageeteach sometimes less detailed than I used to write. #ELTchat |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:19:41 |
@HadaLitim Plans help me to stop thinking of a lesson as a set of activities. Not that detailed unless I'm a bit unsure of sth #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:20:23 |
@languageeteach You mean it gives you a sense of sequence? beginning, middle, and end? #ELTchat @HadaLitim |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:20:29 |
@GlenysHanson Not required by OFSTED and was becoming a cut and paste exercise. Bigwigs finally saw sense #ELTchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:21:00 |
@languageeteach @HadaLitim plans help work out how to get from one activity to another too #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:21:02 |
So are lesson plans essential or can be done away with altogether? Can all Ts be organised without thm or do we need a min of plan? #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:21:10 |
@languageeteach If it's required, it loses its purpose. No? #ELTchat @GlenysHanson |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:21:13 |
@angelos_bollas @HadaLitim Not necessarily but helps me think how activities are connected. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:21:24 |
Once a T has learnt to analyse, not tough to summarise and write more skeleton like plans -methinks #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:21:31 |
RT @languageeteach: @GlenysHanson Not required by OFSTED and was becoming a cut and paste exercise. Bigwigs finally saw sense #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:21:41 |
RT @Marisa_C: Once a T has learnt to analyse, not tough to summarise and write more skeleton like plans -methinks #eltchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:21:43 |
#eltchat After a class I used to mull around in my head about where Ss problems were and what might be useful next. |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:22:04 |
Post-planning also important #ELTchat https://t.co/jKpdFd6Xv0 |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:22:05 |
@angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson If you're just going through the motions to please sbdy, then definitely! #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:22:07 |
@languageeteach @GlenysHanson Thank God!! So bigwigs do sometimes think like us! #ELTchat |
MarekKiczkowiak |
2015-10-14T20:22:09 |
@angelos_bollas @HadaLitim you might have seen this post https://t.co/nJrWx2m6Ah where I kind of summarised my opinion #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:22:20 |
RT @Marisa_C: Once a T has learnt to analyse, not tough to summarise and write more skeleton like plans -methinks #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:22:21 |
I find the lack of flow and incomplete exploitation of stages or contenxts more of a problem #eltchat https://t.co/Jxziq7xJxD |
KarimaEnnouri |
2015-10-14T20:22:22 |
@HadaLitim They may not be essential but a great tool to help you structure your lesson and reflect on it #ELTchat |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:22:41 |
@HadaLitim @GlenysHanson I will always be a littlewig! #ELTchat |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:23:09 |
@GlenysHanson You can't go wrong there. Very wise. #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:23:11 |
@MarekKiczkowiak will have a read after the chat - thanks for sharing :-) #ELTchat @HadaLitim |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:23:14 |
@HadaLitim think you need some order of events or you forget it #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:23:20 |
@Marisa_C I totally agree. A few scribbles - albeit essential scribbles - is all I need now BUT the training really helped #ELTchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:23:50 |
@HadaLitim and new teachers need some kind of plan for board work etc, for grammar - how to explain it etc. #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:23:58 |
LP is also very helpful for post-lesson reflection, I think. Easier to identify strengths and weaknesses #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:24:22 |
@KateLloyd05 I only seem to forget if I'm nervous, like during a formal obs perhaps. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:24:25 |
wiv u all the way #eltchat I know what to do but recording it in some way opens it to scrutiny https://t.co/51eqhKYdRC |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:24:35 |
RT @GlenysHanson: #eltchat After a class I used to mull around in my head about where Ss problems were and what might be useful next. |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:24:54 |
RT @MarekKiczkowiak: @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim you might have seen this post https://t.co/nJrWx2m6Ah where I kind of summarised my opinion… |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:24:56 |
The value in lesson plans during training for me is they require you to analyse what you’re doing in fine detail. #Eltchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:25:05 |
@Marisa_C yes exactly #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:25:13 |
@MarekKiczkowiak @angelos_bollas No, I hadn't but will defo read later thx #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:25:20 |
Agree! #ELTchat https://t.co/jaQGpEBi4F |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:25:21 |
hear hear #eltchat indeed https://t.co/gnBe36y8T8 |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:25:57 |
@KateLloyd05 I agree, but some Ts never really quite embrace that yet always perform really well #ELTchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:26:02 |
RT @theteacherjames: The value in lesson plans during training for me is they require you to analyse what you’re doing in fine detail. #Elt… |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:26:17 |
Plus with time you created a materials bank - I have acres of lesson plans to fall back on for any eventuality #eltchat |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T20:26:20 |
@HadaLitim yes I scribble all over my LPs! Post lesson what worked or not, enjoyed most, observns, comments etc for next day. #eltchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:26:34 |
@HadaLitim yes, some, but many don't! #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:26:36 |
@Marisa_C Totally and for post-reflection too #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:26:37 |
RT @Noreen_Lam: @HadaLitim yes I scribble all over my LPs! Post lesson what worked or not, enjoyed most, observns, comments etc for next da… |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:27:26 |
@Noreen_Lam Sounds like a piece of art! What I meant is that my scribbles are my LP lol! #ELTchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:27:28 |
@Noreen_Lam @HadaLitim little sad faces from when it's going badly! #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:27:28 |
I would never plan like that a day to day basis, it would restrict me too much, but in training I think it’s valuable. #Eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:27:43 |
@KateLloyd05 totally agree #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:27:57 |
The best way to learn to plan succintly and well is to do it for others - had to write hundreds for a school - great discipline #eltchat |
gingy2 |
2015-10-14T20:28:15 |
RT @sandymillin: Collocation Connections: http://t.co/CLYTlFBsVw via @teflgeek < a game for practising collocations #eltchat |
eilymurphy |
2015-10-14T20:28:35 |
RT @theteacherjames: I would never plan like that a day to day basis, it would restrict me too much, but in training I think it’s valuable.… |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:28:49 |
@Marisa_C Today I wrote 23! (lol) - it was quite a day (and a lesson for me!) #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:28:51 |
@theteacherjames #eltchat I find post-reflection (thanks for the term @HadaLitim) works best for analysing what really happened and why. |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:28:59 |
@theteacherjames Yep, I'm on the same level. Needed in training #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:30:06 |
@angelos_bollas you re polishing up your skills u are #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:30:40 |
What are essential points (on a LP , scribbles or in her/his head) a T must go into class with? #eltchat |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T20:30:44 |
@HadaLitim not quite though colorful! :) knew T who made web LPs to connect diff stages. She was an artist..wish i cld do that! #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:31:09 |
@Noreen_Lam Wow! I'd love to see one of those #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:31:26 |
Has anyone used a different method for planning? We've read about notes, scribbles, etc. What about audio notes? #ELTchat |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T20:32:00 |
@KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim yes and happy faces and exclamation marks for activities that rocked! ;) #eltchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:32:04 |
@GlenysHanson @theteacherjames @HadaLitim yes but can be difficult to remember detail, so LP also useful as post-refl tool IMO #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:32:18 |
@angelos_bollas Nope not me! Notes on my hand perhaps, or a napkin ;) but no audio for me #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:32:37 |
@angelos_bollas Flowchart plans with mindmpap branches common esp if dogme teaching or trying to #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:32:53 |
@ITLegge @GlenysHanson @theteacherjames And also for re-use. That's when I'm really glad I took the time to write my plan #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:32:56 |
RT @Noreen_Lam: @KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim yes and happy faces and exclamation marks for activities that rocked! ;) #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:33:09 |
@Marisa_C I remember you showing me that one! It was phenomenal! #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:33:37 |
Recycling is a good reason to justify the time needed for LPs #ELTchat https://t.co/HpWgFNBzox |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:34:39 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I want to see that one too! I do unplugged a lot but generally not with a written plan #ELTchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:34:55 |
@HadaLitim #eltchat aims - what I want my sts to do and steps for how I do that. |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:35:04 |
RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat aims - what I want my sts to do and steps for how I do that. |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:35:10 |
Many teachers write plan on margin of Ss book - whatever is handy !! :-) #ELTchat as long as it's not just ex1, ex2, ex3, etc |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:35:10 |
@HadaLitim That was art - not just a written plan! @Marisa_C #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:35:51 |
@ITLegge Absolutely. I personally scribble the basic stages #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:35:52 |
As with all in ELT, adaptation is key! #ELTchat https://t.co/EpfuB3ooPA |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T20:35:54 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C vaguely remember seeing sth where u can jump around stages dep on how lesson goes. Non linear LP. #eltchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:36:15 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas like flowchart idea a bit like what's in my head! #eltchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:36:19 |
@Marisa_C seen lots of those tho #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:36:33 |
@Marisa_C Hahaha..#ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:36:39 |
@HadaLitim @angelos_bollas just a sec - was a plan trainee @solid98 did for his experimental on @thornburyscott s advice #ELTchat |
eilymurphy |
2015-10-14T20:36:49 |
@angelos_bollas but how can a lesson be recylced, an activity OK but surely every lesson is different? #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:36:51 |
RT @Marisa_C: @HadaLitim @angelos_bollas just a sec - was a plan trainee @solid98 did for his experimental on @thornburyscott s advice #ELT… |
languageeteach |
2015-10-14T20:36:58 |
How to cater to different needs - ESOLsSs have diverse abilities in skills. Need to plan accordingly #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:37:02 |
@angelos_bollas @HadaLitim #eltchat When I tried to redo a lesson that worked brilliantly with 1 group with another, it was usually a flop. |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:37:06 |
@KateLloyd05 yea more common now #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:37:06 |
@HadaLitim Most important: a clear learning objective. Getting to the destination is more important than how you got there! #Eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:37:34 |
@eilymurphy Not copy-pasted, indeed - but parts of it can be recycled, I think. #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:37:43 |
@eilymurphy @angelos_bollas I've recycled a few of my lessons. When sth works, and I've prepped my own material just tweak and go #eltchat |
getgreatenglish |
2015-10-14T20:38:10 |
Some people might like this alternative (Dogme friendly) planning theory for institutions. #eltchat #long http://t.co/bgY9X219kO |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:38:11 |
@GlenysHanson Same here - there are bits and pieces that can work though with all (or bits that don't with all) #ELTchat @HadaLitim |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:38:42 |
@angelos_bollas #eltchat. Never thought of that! Can record voice on IWB so could try that out. |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:39:04 |
@GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas That's interesting. The group drives the lesson then. #ELTchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:39:32 |
@HadaLitim #eltchat yes- the flow! |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:39:35 |
@ITLegge Never done it myself but please, let me know how it goes! :) #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:39:43 |
@getgreatenglish Thanks Marc for sharing. Will read later #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:39:49 |
RT @getgreatenglish: Some people might like this alternative (Dogme friendly) planning theory for institutions. #eltchat #long http://t.co/… |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:39:54 |
Here it is http://t.co/wDWUPA5jyM "can you do dogme for ane experimental practice assgnmnt" #ELTchat |
eilymurphy |
2015-10-14T20:40:19 |
@theteacherjames @HadaLitim yes, learning objectives work well, especially when negotiated with Ss #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:40:31 |
@ITLegge @angelos_bollas How would that work? WOuld you then play it during the lesson? I''m puzzled #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2015-10-14T20:40:46 |
I recycle bits of lessons all the time, but add new things as required #ELTchat btw. I am not really here. Will do transcript when get home |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:40:48 |
@HadaLitim @eilymurphy @angelos_bollas If you’re prepared to tweak and adapt, why not? It’s great to have something in the bank! #Eltchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:41:40 |
@HadaLitim @angelos_bollas me too! In theory, you'd need to which could be distracting for sts and nightmare with YLs! #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:41:54 |
@theteacherjames @eilymurphy @angelos_bollas Totally and especially when you're teaching inthe same context, the same CBs for yrs #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:42:13 |
@angelos_bollas @HadaLitim #eltchat Isn't that a bit different - reusing situations or activities? A plan implies a predetermined sequence. |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:42:32 |
@ITLegge @angelos_bollas Un;ess you wore headphones haha #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:42:52 |
RT @Marisa_C: Here it is http://t.co/wDWUPA5jyM "can you do dogme for ane experimental practice assgnmnt" #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:43:16 |
@Marisa_C I'll be checking that out later! Intrigued #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:43:26 |
@GlenysHanson some times, when teaching a coursebook we do create own tasks that can be used with more groups, no? #ELTchat @HadaLitim |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:43:37 |
@Marisa_C Thanks Marisa for finding it )) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:43:58 |
With detailed/explicit plans, one of the probs I often see is ppl have trouble with time estimates and covering everything - #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:44:16 |
@SueAnnan Hi not-really-here-Sue! I do too )) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:44:34 |
Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:45:29 |
RT @Marisa_C: Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:45:47 |
RT @Marisa_C: Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:46:15 |
@angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson @HadaLitim yes, once you adapt a course book activity & it works, you use it again. #ELTchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:46:19 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes! Most common problem where I work is getting that right! |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:46:22 |
@HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @theteacherjames Indeed! hopefully more often from now on #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:46:24 |
@Marisa_C I agree totally. The fewer the stages the better. It leaves more room for focus and diversions #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:47:08 |
@ITLegge Also, lack of LP of any kind/type/length often results in lack of (language) focus #ELTchat @Marisa_C |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:47:32 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat that's why I like flowchart idea! If x happens, then choose path Y. 'Choise your own adventure' lesson :) |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:47:57 |
Not always true esp with YL's but fuller exploitation and change of activity with same context or material #ELTchat https://t.co/60D4iKzzR0 |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:48:04 |
@Marisa_C My best lessons are often those I go in wth the least material. However, I have one essential in my satchel: blank paper #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:48:23 |
@ITLegge almost like a quest isn't it i really like it #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:48:47 |
@Marisa_C I always overplan, & always worry I’m going to run out of activities before the end, even though it’s never happened! #Eltchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:48:52 |
@Marisa_C @HadaLitim same with starters #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:49:13 |
@ITLegge if u like flowchart idea lots of good free tools to make nice flowcharts #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:49:14 |
@Marisa_C I haven't taught YLs for many years now. This works with my adult GE classes #ELTchat |
EnglishMyWayUK |
2015-10-14T20:50:06 |
#eltchat We've created a guide for planning sessions here: http://t.co/yLPIPFyB5l - part of our CPD modules here: http://t.co/hIOYz7UDtP |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:50:06 |
@theteacherjames having alternatives a good thing tho often u don't think of them as such #ELTchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T20:50:13 |
RT @HadaLitim: @GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas That's interesting. The group drives the lesson then. #ELTchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:50:30 |
@RustbeltBornESL @TeachingEnglish Thanks! We're chatting now using the hashtag #ELTchat |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T20:50:59 |
@ITLegge @Marisa_C agree! Makes u think of poss issues, ss strengths&weaknesses, how to deal with variety of situations. #eltchat |
RustbeltBornESL |
2015-10-14T20:51:24 |
RT @Marisa_C: Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:51:45 |
@HadaLitim @Marisa_C I was wondering if any dogme Ts have tried it with YLs (Primary kids)? #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:51:47 |
A small folder of basic T tools and resources helps fill time when I underplan #ELTchat |
EnglishMyWayUK |
2015-10-14T20:51:48 |
RT @languageeteach: How to cater to different needs - ESOLsSs have diverse abilities in skills. Need to plan accordingly #ELTchat |
EnglishMyWayUK |
2015-10-14T20:52:05 |
RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat aims - what I want my sts to do and steps for how I do that. |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:52:53 |
@ITLegge @Marisa_C Mmmm sounds tough but I'm sure some must. It would need a very confident n experienced T methinks #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:52:55 |
I’ve always liked @dalecoulter’s lesson skeletons approach. Very interesting and effective. #Eltchat |
RustbeltBornESL |
2015-10-14T20:53:03 |
RT @MarekKiczkowiak: @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim you might have seen this post https://t.co/nJrWx2m6Ah where I kind of summarised my opinion… |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:53:05 |
@ITLegge @HadaLitim @Marisa_C interesting question. Can't help thinking it would have to be very small group #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:53:24 |
Not early days - later tyes but don't know anyone who has dared though don't see why not #ELTchat https://t.co/P5SjwF8DWb |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:53:40 |
@HadaLitim #eltchat my main filler is my word cards (st-made definition cards for vocab). Always a good one! |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:53:48 |
@Marisa_C True, does give you more space to be flexible. #Eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:54:10 |
remember to use #eltchat if you would like to participate https://t.co/LWGaOfHF4b |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:54:26 |
RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat my main filler is my word cards (st-made definition cards for vocab). Always a good one! |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:54:29 |
RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat my main filler is my word cards (st-made definition cards for vocab). Always a good one! |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T20:55:21 |
@Marisa_C @HadaLitim you'd need guts! Especially with non-readers/writers (up to age 6 here). #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:55:32 |
@RustbeltBornESL Remember the hashtag #ELTchat - Write it once, select it, cntrl+C, and then cntrl+V in every tweet ;) |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:55:53 |
That's frustrating! Pls don't forget the hashtag #ELTchat https://t.co/l0vYOvCQY4 |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T20:56:10 |
@RustbeltBornESL @theteacherjames @Marisa_C it really annoys me when I don't get 2 freer practice, even though can do it nx lesson #eltchat |
RustbeltBornESL |
2015-10-14T20:56:17 |
@Marisa_C thanks! sorry about that!! #eltchat |
RustbeltBornESL |
2015-10-14T20:56:45 |
@angelos_bollas thanks!! Someone else just mentioned that to me, sorry about that! #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:56:55 |
@KateLloyd05 you can flip the classroom and assign it for hm - ask SS to record it tho #ELTchat @RustbeltBornESL @theteacherjames @Marisa_C |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:57:07 |
@RustbeltBornESL no worries just thought you might want to join in #eltchat we meet every week |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:57:11 |
@RustbeltBornESL It's ok - no worries :-) #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:57:15 |
@ITLegge @Marisa_C OUch!! Almost reckless I'd say! Just the thought of it lol #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:58:08 |
@HadaLitim @ITLegge I would like to try this but YL's need to have some sort of evel - Q is WHAT level - bears research #ELTchat |
RustbeltBornESL |
2015-10-14T20:58:10 |
Participating in #eltchat - so great to be connected to other educators online! |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T20:58:23 |
3 mins to go everyone. We need a volunteer to write the summary please. Anyone up for the task #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:58:36 |
3 min left - Who would like to write the summary, please? #eltchat If you haven't done one, we're always here to help #ELTchat |
EnglishMyWayUK |
2015-10-14T20:59:08 |
RT @RustbeltBornESL: Participating in #eltchat - so great to be connected to other educators online! |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T20:59:11 |
Going to say night night to all very early start tomorrow see you all next week!!!! #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T20:59:45 |
@Marisa_C send us some pics tomorrow, please! #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T20:59:51 |
@KateLloyd05 It often gets squashed in at the end, and it’s really the whole point of the lesson! #Eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T21:00:01 |
@Marisa_C Bonne nuit! Enjoy the rest of your stay in Toulouse. Chat next week #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T21:00:08 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @Marisa_C send us some pics tomorrow, please! #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T21:00:20 |
Anyone up for writing the summary? Don't be shy! :-P #eltchat https://t.co/WPbI2vhmju |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T21:00:27 |
@theteacherjames I know, that's why I usually choose to leave it till the next lesson. No point it rushing it #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T21:00:57 |
@theteacherjames @KateLloyd05 Freer practice and final feedback to round off. So essential! #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
2015-10-14T21:01:27 |
Thanks everyone, good talking to you! And if you’d like to write the summary, get in touch. We’d love to hear from you :-) #Eltchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T21:01:29 |
@HadaLitim @theteacherjames don't make me feel more guilty about not getting to it!! ;0) #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T21:01:47 |
@Noreen_Lam since this is your topic, would you be interested in writing the summary? #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T21:02:01 |
@KateLloyd05 @theteacherjames Ooops! Soorry #eltchat |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T21:02:13 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @Noreen_Lam since this is your topic, would you be interested in writing the summary? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-10-14T21:02:55 |
THAT's what ALWAYS gets omitted #ELTchat https://t.co/gmerHazz7y |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T21:03:08 |
Time to say by everyone. Midnight in my part of the world. Thanks for joining us and hopeffully see u all nxt wk at 12pm BST #eltchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T21:04:01 |
#eltchat Thanks all! |
HadaLitim |
2015-10-14T21:04:59 |
@Marisa_C So saad! That's the best part of the lesson....the pudding. It took me a while to get it but now, I makes sure I do! #eltchat |
KateLloyd05 |
2015-10-14T21:05:27 |
@Marisa_C @HadaLitim @theteacherjames if freer practice is not sometimes more effective next lesson #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-10-14T21:05:33 |
Good night, #ELTchat :-) See you next week! |
Noreen_Lam |
2015-10-14T21:07:09 |
@angelos_bollas actually it was the topic I voted for, not suggested. ;)if no one wants to fight for it I can but need some days. #eltchat |
GlenysHanson |
2015-10-14T21:07:51 |
#eltchat @HadaLitim Your pudding was my main course. |
ITLegge |
2015-10-14T21:08:11 |
#eltchat @HadaLitim bye and thanks! |
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