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The usefullness of standard lesson plan formats as presented on TT courses

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KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T19:45:23 RT @HadaLitim: Do teachers actually use lesson plan formats taught in all the major TESOL training courses/diploma? Are they useful? Our #e…
KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T19:47:57 Waiting for #eltchat to start, I made it for my second time and for the topic I voted for!  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T19:48:34 @ITLegge great Helen! )) #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T19:51:24 Hi @KarimaEnnouri and @Noreen_Lam thanks for joining us. We'll be kicking off in 10 mins #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T19:57:38 RT @HadaLitim: Hi @KarimaEnnouri and @Noreen_Lam thanks for joining us. We'll be kicking off in 10 mins #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T19:59:52 Hi #ELTchat peeps! Ready for tonight's discussion on 'lesson plan formats taught in all the major TESOL training courses/diploma?
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:01:49 Hi @KarimaEnnouri  and @Noreen_Lam! Anyone else out there? #ELTchat
MarekKiczkowiak 2015-10-14T20:02:30 @HadaLitim they're completely unrealistic and don't reflect how most Ts plan #eltchat
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T20:02:53 Ready though my #eltchat feed seems to reload with delay...hope to keep up with it all!
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HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:03:35 @MarekKiczkowiak Hi Marek! What do you mean? And which type ar eyou referring to?  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:04:25 @Noreen_Lam hope so too Noreen #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:05:19 Let's start with a basic question to start with. Do you use lesson plans generally? #ELTchat
MarekKiczkowiak 2015-10-14T20:05:35 @HadaLitim the generic 5 page formal lesson plan you have to produce for the assessed lessons #ELTchat can't recall being taught others
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:06:33 @MarekKiczkowiak There's always the 20 page one we needed to produce for Delta! #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:07:01 #eltchat Hi everybody. Been trying unsuccessfully to login on Nurph.
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:07:37 @GlenysHanson Hi Glenys! Same here so using tweetdeck. Just need to remember the #ELTchat
KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T20:07:42 @HadaLitim In fact I am starting my first job after CELTA next week and I intend to use them again. #ELTchat
MarekKiczkowiak 2015-10-14T20:08:03 @HadaLitim that's even more preposterous. Can't see the point. Very out-of-touch with day to day planning #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:08:25 Use Nurph for our #eltchat, here's the link http://t.co/BCVzYI2ikY
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:09:00 @KarimaEnnouri Does your job require you to? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:09:16 Hello everyone! #ELTchat
KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T20:09:21 @HadaLitim yes  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:09:27 @MarekKiczkowiak DO you think that perhpas they were useful during training just to have us learn to think abt everything #ELTchat
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:09:30 my institution has just done away with lesson plans. I still do my own version though #Eltchat
KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T20:09:34 @angelos_bollas Hi #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:10:01 @languageeteach Great instituitons! )) Can you describe your own? #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:10:28 @angelos_bollas HIII! #eltchat Got through the traffic?
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:10:42 @MarekKiczkowiak @HadaLitim I think that Delta LPs are great trainers#ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:11:06 #eltchat I don't think I've ever used a written lesson plan. But I've an open mind... more or less... ;-)
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:11:19 @HadaLitim Further Education college in the UK. Used to have do one but felt it was taking up too much time #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:11:50 @GlenysHanson Me neither - but LPs used in training have allowed me to be able to draft LPs in my mind for all lessons #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:11:54 @GlenysHanson That's interesting. What do you mean abt 'open mind'? ANd how have you got away with never using LPs? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:12:29 @KarimaEnnouri Good luck! :-) #ELTchat @HadaLitim
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:12:38 @languageeteach I agree, waste of time really! Time that could be used on much more productive research #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:12:48 #eltchat Why did your institution give up lessons plans, @languageeteach?
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:12:51 RT @HadaLitim: @MarekKiczkowiak DO you think that perhpas they were useful during training just to have us learn to think abt everything #E…
Shaunwilden 2015-10-14T20:13:33 Hi #eltchat finally back on my own sofa but after 27 hours flying too tired to concentrate
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:13:53 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson Same here. I think that both the CELTA and Delta ones have taught me loads about framing a lesson #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:13:57 I always write a running order to keep track in class but no actual written plan unless observation #eltchat
MarekKiczkowiak 2015-10-14T20:14:21 @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim  thinking process is certainly useful. But putting together a 20 page plan is a waste of time and paper #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:14:27 @HadaLitim @GlenysHanson (agree) and thus allows us deviate from frames, too. #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:14:40 @Shaunwilden Hey!! Back from Oz! You must be on some serious jetlag #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:14:44 #eltchat @hadaLitim I'm open to you convincing me they're useful. French universities can't force teachers  to do anything.
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:14:51 @MarekKiczkowiak For real-life teaching? I totally agree with you.  @HadaLitim #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:15:04 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson totally #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:15:08 Hi everyone - a bit late sorry - tweeting from Toulouse #eltchat and no delta or celta type plans not needed or expected day to day
KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T20:15:27 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson  I would mix the steps or forget part if I keep them just in my mind. #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:15:31 @GlenysHanson I'd be the last to convince ou lol! I don't use them unless I'm asked to #ELTchat
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:15:33 @HadaLitim True but I can't break the habit. I need to have some kind of structure. Am I too much of a control freak, I ponder? #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:16:02 @MarekKiczkowiak @HadaLitim (cont.) but I now work w/ Ts who have nt been trained on LPs & they face many difficulties w/ planning #ELTchat
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T20:16:03 When NqT helps a lot to get org but now just imposs 2write detailed LPs for all classes! #eltchat I jot down notes,special areas of caution.
MarekKiczkowiak 2015-10-14T20:16:15 @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim we're not taught different more realistic ways of planning #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:16:23 But explicit plans important as part of the training #eltchat - and if like @langueteach u get used to them u created a great database
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:16:26 @languageeteach What do your plan look like these days? #eltchat How detailed are they?
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:16:33 @Shaunwilden Welcome back! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:16:51 @Marisa_C #ELTchat says hello to Toulouse! :-)
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:17:20 @Marisa_C Salut!!! How was Entrecote? OOps it's LPs right now ;) #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-10-14T20:17:40 @HadaLitim ooo just a wee bit :) #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:18:23 @KarimaEnnouri @GlenysHanson Some written points always helpful - esp. in the beginning. #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:18:25 @Shaunwilden I bet! You might start meeting rabbits and all sorts if you stick around. Best go and chill #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:18:29 @KarimaEnnouri @angelos_bollas #ELTchat My guide was what the students showed they needed in the "here & now".
KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T20:18:46 @HadaLitim @languageeteach sometimes less detailed than I used to write. #ELTchat
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:19:41 @HadaLitim Plans help me to stop thinking of a lesson as a set of activities. Not that detailed unless I'm a bit unsure of sth #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:20:23 @languageeteach You mean it gives you a sense of sequence? beginning, middle, and end? #ELTchat @HadaLitim
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:20:29 @GlenysHanson Not required by OFSTED and was becoming a cut and paste exercise. Bigwigs finally saw sense #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:21:00 @languageeteach @HadaLitim plans help work out how to get from one activity to another too #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:21:02 So are lesson plans essential or can be done away with altogether? Can all Ts be organised without thm or do we need a min of plan? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:21:10 @languageeteach If it's required, it loses its purpose. No? #ELTchat @GlenysHanson
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:21:13 @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim Not necessarily but helps me think how activities are connected. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:21:24 Once a T has learnt to analyse, not tough to summarise and write more skeleton like plans -methinks #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:21:31 RT @languageeteach: @GlenysHanson Not required by OFSTED and was becoming a cut and paste exercise. Bigwigs finally saw sense #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:21:41 RT @Marisa_C: Once a T has learnt to analyse, not tough to summarise and write more skeleton like plans -methinks #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:21:43 #eltchat After a class I used to mull around in my head about where Ss problems were and what might be useful next.
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:22:04 Post-planning also important #ELTchat  https://t.co/jKpdFd6Xv0
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:22:05 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson If you're just going through the motions to please sbdy, then definitely! #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:22:07 @languageeteach @GlenysHanson Thank God!! So bigwigs do sometimes think like us! #ELTchat
MarekKiczkowiak 2015-10-14T20:22:09 @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim you might have seen this post https://t.co/nJrWx2m6Ah where I kind of summarised my opinion #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:22:20 RT @Marisa_C: Once a T has learnt to analyse, not tough to summarise and write more skeleton like plans -methinks #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:22:21 I find the lack of flow and incomplete exploitation of stages or contenxts more of a problem #eltchat https://t.co/Jxziq7xJxD
KarimaEnnouri 2015-10-14T20:22:22 @HadaLitim They may not be essential but a great tool to help you structure your lesson and reflect on it  #ELTchat
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:22:41 @HadaLitim @GlenysHanson I will always be a littlewig! #ELTchat
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:23:09 @GlenysHanson You can't go wrong there. Very wise. #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:23:11 @MarekKiczkowiak will have a read after the chat - thanks for sharing :-) #ELTchat @HadaLitim
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:23:14 @HadaLitim think you need some order of events or you forget it #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:23:20 @Marisa_C I totally agree. A few scribbles - albeit essential scribbles - is all I need now BUT the training really helped  #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:23:50 @HadaLitim and new teachers need some kind of plan for board work etc, for grammar - how to explain it etc. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:23:58 LP is also very helpful for post-lesson reflection, I think. Easier to identify strengths and weaknesses #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:24:22 @KateLloyd05 I only seem to forget if I'm nervous, like during a formal obs perhaps. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:24:25 wiv u all the way #eltchat I know what to do but recording it in some way opens it to scrutiny  https://t.co/51eqhKYdRC
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:24:35 RT @GlenysHanson: #eltchat After a class I used to mull around in my head about where Ss problems were and what might be useful next.
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:24:54 RT @MarekKiczkowiak: @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim you might have seen this post https://t.co/nJrWx2m6Ah where I kind of summarised my opinion…
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:24:56 The value in lesson plans during training for me is they require you to analyse what you’re doing in fine detail. #Eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:25:05 @Marisa_C yes exactly #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:25:13 @MarekKiczkowiak @angelos_bollas No, I hadn't but will defo read later thx #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:25:20 Agree! #ELTchat  https://t.co/jaQGpEBi4F
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:25:21 hear hear #eltchat indeed  https://t.co/gnBe36y8T8
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:25:57 @KateLloyd05 I agree, but some Ts never really quite embrace that yet always perform really well #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:26:02 RT @theteacherjames: The value in lesson plans during training for me is they require you to analyse what you’re doing in fine detail. #Elt…
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:26:17 Plus with time you created a materials bank - I have acres of lesson plans to fall back on for any eventuality #eltchat
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T20:26:20 @HadaLitim yes I scribble all over my LPs! Post lesson what worked or not, enjoyed most, observns, comments etc for next day. #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:26:34 @HadaLitim yes, some, but many don't! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:26:36 @Marisa_C Totally and for post-reflection too #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:26:37 RT @Noreen_Lam: @HadaLitim yes I scribble all over my LPs! Post lesson what worked or not, enjoyed most, observns, comments etc for next da…
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:27:26 @Noreen_Lam Sounds like a piece of art! What I meant is that my scribbles are my LP lol! #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:27:28 @Noreen_Lam @HadaLitim little sad faces from when it's going badly! #ELTchat
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:27:28 I would never plan like that a day to day basis, it would restrict me too much, but in training I think it’s valuable. #Eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:27:43 @KateLloyd05 totally agree #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:27:57 The best way to learn to plan succintly and well is to do it for others - had to write hundreds for a school - great discipline #eltchat
gingy2 2015-10-14T20:28:15 RT @sandymillin: Collocation Connections: http://t.co/CLYTlFBsVw via @teflgeek < a game for practising collocations #eltchat
eilymurphy 2015-10-14T20:28:35 RT @theteacherjames: I would never plan like that a day to day basis, it would restrict me too much, but in training I think it’s valuable.…
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:28:49 @Marisa_C Today I wrote 23! (lol) - it was quite a day (and a lesson for me!) #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:28:51 @theteacherjames  #eltchat I find post-reflection (thanks for the term @HadaLitim) works best for analysing what really happened and why.
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:28:59 @theteacherjames Yep, I'm on the same level. Needed in training #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:30:06 @angelos_bollas you re polishing up your skills u are #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:30:40 What are essential points (on a LP , scribbles or in her/his head) a T must go into class with?  #eltchat
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T20:30:44 @HadaLitim not quite though colorful! :) knew T who made web LPs to connect diff stages. She was an artist..wish i cld do that! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:31:09 @Noreen_Lam Wow! I'd love to see one of those #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:31:26 Has anyone used a different method for planning? We've read about notes, scribbles, etc. What about audio notes? #ELTchat
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T20:32:00 @KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim yes and happy faces and exclamation marks for activities that rocked! ;) #eltchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:32:04 @GlenysHanson @theteacherjames @HadaLitim yes but can be difficult to remember detail, so LP also useful as post-refl tool IMO #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:32:18 @angelos_bollas Nope not me! Notes on my hand perhaps, or a napkin ;) but no audio for  me #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:32:37 @angelos_bollas Flowchart plans with mindmpap branches common esp if dogme teaching or trying to #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:32:53 @ITLegge @GlenysHanson @theteacherjames And also for re-use. That's when I'm really glad I took the time to write my plan #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:32:56 RT @Noreen_Lam: @KateLloyd05 @HadaLitim yes and happy faces and exclamation marks for activities that rocked! ;) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:33:09 @Marisa_C I remember you showing me that one! It was phenomenal! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:33:37 Recycling is a good reason to justify the time needed for LPs #ELTchat  https://t.co/HpWgFNBzox
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:34:39 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I want to see that one too! I do unplugged a lot but generally not with a written plan #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:34:55 @HadaLitim #eltchat aims - what I want my sts to do and steps for how I do that.
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:35:04 RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat aims - what I want my sts to do and steps for how I do that.
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:35:10 Many teachers write plan on margin of Ss book - whatever is handy !! :-)  #ELTchat as long as it's not just ex1, ex2, ex3, etc
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:35:10 @HadaLitim That was art - not just a written plan! @Marisa_C #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:35:51 @ITLegge Absolutely. I personally scribble the basic stages #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:35:52 As with all in ELT, adaptation is key! #ELTchat  https://t.co/EpfuB3ooPA
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T20:35:54 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C vaguely remember seeing sth where u can jump around stages dep on how lesson goes. Non linear LP. #eltchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:36:15 @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas like flowchart idea a bit like what's in my head! #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:36:19 @Marisa_C seen lots of those tho #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:36:33 @Marisa_C Hahaha..#ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:36:39 @HadaLitim @angelos_bollas just a sec - was a plan trainee @solid98 did for his experimental on @thornburyscott s advice #ELTchat
eilymurphy 2015-10-14T20:36:49 @angelos_bollas but how can a lesson be recylced, an activity OK but surely every lesson is different? #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:36:51 RT @Marisa_C: @HadaLitim @angelos_bollas just a sec - was a plan trainee @solid98 did for his experimental on @thornburyscott s advice #ELT…
languageeteach 2015-10-14T20:36:58 How to cater to different needs - ESOLsSs have diverse abilities in skills. Need to plan accordingly #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:37:02 @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim  #eltchat When I tried to redo a lesson that worked brilliantly with 1 group with another, it was usually a flop.
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:37:06 @KateLloyd05 yea more common now #ELTchat
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:37:06 @HadaLitim Most important: a clear learning objective. Getting to the destination is more important than how you got there! #Eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:37:34 @eilymurphy Not copy-pasted, indeed - but parts of it can be recycled, I think. #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:37:43 @eilymurphy @angelos_bollas I've recycled a few of my lessons. When sth works, and I've prepped my own material just tweak and go #eltchat
getgreatenglish 2015-10-14T20:38:10 Some people might like this alternative (Dogme friendly) planning theory for institutions. #eltchat #long http://t.co/bgY9X219kO
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:38:11 @GlenysHanson Same here - there are bits and pieces that can work though with all (or bits that don't with all) #ELTchat @HadaLitim
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:38:42 @angelos_bollas #eltchat. Never thought of that! Can record voice on IWB so could try that out.
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:39:04 @GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas That's interesting. The group drives the lesson then. #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:39:32 @HadaLitim #eltchat yes- the flow!
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:39:35 @ITLegge Never done it myself but please, let me know how it goes! :) #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:39:43 @getgreatenglish Thanks Marc for sharing. Will read later #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:39:49 RT @getgreatenglish: Some people might like this alternative (Dogme friendly) planning theory for institutions. #eltchat #long http://t.co/…
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:39:54 Here it is http://t.co/wDWUPA5jyM "can you do dogme for ane experimental practice assgnmnt"  #ELTchat
eilymurphy 2015-10-14T20:40:19 @theteacherjames @HadaLitim yes, learning objectives work well, especially when negotiated with Ss #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:40:31 @ITLegge @angelos_bollas How would that work? WOuld you then play it during the lesson? I''m puzzled #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2015-10-14T20:40:46 I recycle bits of lessons all the time, but add new things as required #ELTchat  btw. I am not really here. Will do transcript when get home
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:40:48 @HadaLitim @eilymurphy @angelos_bollas If you’re prepared to tweak and adapt, why not? It’s great to have something in the bank! #Eltchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:41:40 @HadaLitim @angelos_bollas me too! In theory, you'd need to which could be distracting for sts and nightmare with YLs! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:41:54 @theteacherjames @eilymurphy @angelos_bollas Totally and especially when you're teaching inthe same context, the same CBs for yrs #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:42:13 @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim  #eltchat Isn't that a bit different - reusing situations or activities? A plan implies a predetermined sequence.
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:42:32 @ITLegge @angelos_bollas Un;ess you wore headphones haha #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:42:52 RT @Marisa_C: Here it is http://t.co/wDWUPA5jyM "can you do dogme for ane experimental practice assgnmnt"  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:43:16 @Marisa_C I'll be checking that out later! Intrigued #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:43:26 @GlenysHanson some times, when teaching a coursebook we do create own tasks that can be used with more groups, no? #ELTchat @HadaLitim
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:43:37 @Marisa_C Thanks Marisa for finding it )) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:43:58 With detailed/explicit plans, one of the probs I often see is ppl have trouble with time estimates and covering everything - #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:44:16 @SueAnnan Hi not-really-here-Sue! I do too )) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:44:34 Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:45:29 RT @Marisa_C: Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:45:47 RT @Marisa_C: Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:46:15 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson @HadaLitim yes, once you adapt a course book activity & it works, you use it again. #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:46:19 @Marisa_C #eltchat Yes! Most common problem where I work is getting that right!
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:46:22 @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas @theteacherjames Indeed!  hopefully more often from now on #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:46:24 @Marisa_C I agree totally. The fewer the stages the better. It leaves more room for focus and diversions #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:47:08 @ITLegge Also, lack of LP of any kind/type/length often results in lack of (language) focus #ELTchat @Marisa_C
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:47:32 @Marisa_C #eltchat that's why I like flowchart idea! If x happens, then choose path Y. 'Choise your own adventure' lesson :)
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:47:57 Not always true esp with YL's but fuller exploitation and change of activity with same context or material #ELTchat  https://t.co/60D4iKzzR0
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:48:04 @Marisa_C My best lessons are often those I go in wth the least material. However, I have one essential in my satchel: blank paper #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:48:23 @ITLegge almost like a quest isn't it i really like it #ELTchat
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:48:47 @Marisa_C I always overplan, & always worry I’m going to run out of activities before the end, even though it’s never happened! #Eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:48:52 @Marisa_C @HadaLitim same with starters #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:49:13 @ITLegge if u like flowchart idea lots of good free tools to make nice flowcharts #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:49:14 @Marisa_C I haven't taught YLs for many years now. This works with my adult GE classes #ELTchat
EnglishMyWayUK 2015-10-14T20:50:06 #eltchat We've created a guide for planning sessions  here: http://t.co/yLPIPFyB5l - part of our CPD modules here: http://t.co/hIOYz7UDtP
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:50:06 @theteacherjames having alternatives a good thing tho often u don't think of them as such #ELTchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T20:50:13 RT @HadaLitim: @GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas That's interesting. The group drives the lesson then. #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:50:30 @RustbeltBornESL @TeachingEnglish Thanks! We're chatting now using the hashtag #ELTchat
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T20:50:59 @ITLegge @Marisa_C agree! Makes u think of poss issues, ss strengths&weaknesses, how to deal with variety of situations. #eltchat
RustbeltBornESL 2015-10-14T20:51:24 RT @Marisa_C: Usually overplan - forget that smtms less is more #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:51:45 @HadaLitim @Marisa_C I was wondering if any dogme Ts have tried it with YLs (Primary kids)? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:51:47 A small folder of basic T tools and resources helps fill time when I underplan #ELTchat
EnglishMyWayUK 2015-10-14T20:51:48 RT @languageeteach: How to cater to different needs - ESOLsSs have diverse abilities in skills. Need to plan accordingly #ELTchat
EnglishMyWayUK 2015-10-14T20:52:05 RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat aims - what I want my sts to do and steps for how I do that.
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:52:53 @ITLegge @Marisa_C Mmmm sounds tough but I'm sure some must. It would need a very confident n experienced T methinks #ELTchat
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:52:55 I’ve always liked @dalecoulter’s lesson skeletons approach. Very interesting and effective. #Eltchat
RustbeltBornESL 2015-10-14T20:53:03 RT @MarekKiczkowiak: @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim you might have seen this post https://t.co/nJrWx2m6Ah where I kind of summarised my opinion…
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:53:05 @ITLegge @HadaLitim @Marisa_C interesting question. Can't help thinking it would have to be very small group #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:53:24 Not early days - later tyes but don't know anyone who has dared though don't see why not #ELTchat  https://t.co/P5SjwF8DWb
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:53:40 @HadaLitim #eltchat my main filler is my word cards (st-made definition cards for vocab). Always a good one!
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:53:48 @Marisa_C True, does give you more space to be flexible. #Eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:54:10 remember to use #eltchat if you would like to participate  https://t.co/LWGaOfHF4b
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:54:26 RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat my main filler is my word cards (st-made definition cards for vocab). Always a good one!
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:54:29 RT @ITLegge: @HadaLitim #eltchat my main filler is my word cards (st-made definition cards for vocab). Always a good one!
ITLegge 2015-10-14T20:55:21 @Marisa_C @HadaLitim you'd need guts! Especially with non-readers/writers (up to age 6 here). #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:55:32 @RustbeltBornESL Remember the hashtag #ELTchat - Write it once, select it, cntrl+C, and then cntrl+V in every tweet ;)
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:55:53 That's frustrating! Pls don't forget the hashtag #ELTchat  https://t.co/l0vYOvCQY4
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T20:56:10 @RustbeltBornESL @theteacherjames @Marisa_C it really annoys me when I don't get 2 freer practice, even though can do it nx lesson #eltchat
RustbeltBornESL 2015-10-14T20:56:17 @Marisa_C thanks! sorry about that!! #eltchat
RustbeltBornESL 2015-10-14T20:56:45 @angelos_bollas thanks!! Someone else just mentioned that to me, sorry about that! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:56:55 @KateLloyd05 you can flip the classroom and assign it for hm - ask SS to record it tho #ELTchat @RustbeltBornESL @theteacherjames @Marisa_C
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:57:07 @RustbeltBornESL no worries just thought you might want to join in #eltchat we meet every week
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:57:11 @RustbeltBornESL It's ok - no worries :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:57:15 @ITLegge @Marisa_C OUch!! Almost reckless I'd say! Just the thought of it lol #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:58:08 @HadaLitim @ITLegge I would like to try this but YL's need to have some sort of evel - Q is WHAT level - bears research #ELTchat
RustbeltBornESL 2015-10-14T20:58:10 Participating in #eltchat - so great to be connected to other educators online!
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T20:58:23 3 mins to go everyone. We need a volunteer to write the summary please. Anyone up for the task #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:58:36 3 min left - Who would like to write the summary, please? #eltchat If you haven't done one, we're always here to help #ELTchat
EnglishMyWayUK 2015-10-14T20:59:08 RT @RustbeltBornESL: Participating in #eltchat - so great to be connected to other educators online!
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T20:59:11 Going to say night night to all very early start tomorrow see you all next week!!!! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T20:59:45 @Marisa_C send us some pics tomorrow, please! #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T20:59:51 @KateLloyd05 It often gets squashed in at the end, and it’s really the whole point of the lesson! #Eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T21:00:01 @Marisa_C Bonne nuit! Enjoy the rest of your stay in Toulouse. Chat next week #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T21:00:08 RT @angelos_bollas: @Marisa_C send us some pics tomorrow, please! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T21:00:20 Anyone up for writing the summary? Don't be shy! :-P #eltchat  https://t.co/WPbI2vhmju
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T21:00:27 @theteacherjames I know, that's why I usually choose to leave it till the next lesson. No point it rushing it #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T21:00:57 @theteacherjames @KateLloyd05 Freer practice and final feedback to round off. So essential! #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-10-14T21:01:27 Thanks everyone, good talking to you! And if you’d like to write the summary, get in touch. We’d love to hear from you :-) #Eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T21:01:29 @HadaLitim @theteacherjames don't make me feel more guilty about not getting to it!! ;0) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T21:01:47 @Noreen_Lam since this is your topic, would you be interested in writing the summary? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T21:02:01 @KateLloyd05 @theteacherjames Ooops! Soorry #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T21:02:13 RT @angelos_bollas: @Noreen_Lam since this is your topic, would you be interested in writing the summary? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-10-14T21:02:55 THAT's what ALWAYS gets omitted  #ELTchat  https://t.co/gmerHazz7y
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T21:03:08 Time to say by everyone. Midnight in my part of the world. Thanks for joining us and hopeffully see u all nxt wk at 12pm BST #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T21:04:01 #eltchat Thanks all!
HadaLitim 2015-10-14T21:04:59 @Marisa_C So saad! That's the best part of the lesson....the pudding. It took me a while to get it but now, I makes sure I do! #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-10-14T21:05:27 @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @theteacherjames if freer practice is not sometimes more effective next lesson #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-10-14T21:05:33 Good night, #ELTchat :-) See you next week!
Noreen_Lam 2015-10-14T21:07:09 @angelos_bollas actually it was the topic I voted for, not suggested. ;)if no one wants to fight for it I can but need some days. #eltchat
GlenysHanson 2015-10-14T21:07:51 #eltchat @HadaLitim Your pudding was my main course.
ITLegge 2015-10-14T21:08:11 #eltchat @HadaLitim bye and thanks!

 

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